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00:00:00I grab it out, blood squirted.
00:00:02What's the location of your emergency?
00:00:03My son is unresponsive right now.
00:00:05Is he breathing?
00:00:07Uh, yeah, but barely.
00:00:08And it smells real rotten.
00:00:09It's not yolk.
00:00:10He's like, Dad, help.
00:00:12On December 13, 2019, in Dayton, Ohio, 30-year-old Al McLean makes this 911 call
00:00:19after realizing that his 10-year-old son, Dakota Collins, is unconscious.
00:00:23911, what's the location of your emergency?
00:00:25Yes, my son is unresponsive right now.
00:00:28Your son?
00:00:28Hold on, hold on.
00:00:30You said your son is unresponsive?
00:00:32Yep.
00:00:33Okay, how old is he?
00:00:35He's a child with a lot of medical issues.
00:00:37So what he do is...
00:00:38Stop, stop, stop, stop.
00:00:40Stop, just for a minute.
00:00:40How old is he?
00:00:42He's 11 years old in three days.
00:00:46The following is based on official police records, and some of the footage has never been seen before.
00:00:51And he's unresponsive.
00:00:53Is he breathing?
00:00:54Yeah, but barely.
00:00:55We're going to go ahead and start CPR, okay?
00:00:57Okay, so keep him clean.
00:00:58Yeah.
00:00:59There he is, okay?
00:01:01Okay.
00:01:02He got something coming out of his mouth.
00:01:04Okay, what's coming out?
00:01:05What do you think is coming out?
00:01:06I'm not sure what it is.
00:01:08He won't stop at no cost.
00:01:10Okay.
00:01:11You all right?
00:01:12Is he responding to it at all?
00:01:14Is he breathing?
00:01:14It's hard to say.
00:01:16I see his eyes.
00:01:17Okay, and what are his eyes doing?
00:01:19Like, are they moving?
00:01:20Is any part of his body moving?
00:01:22No, he's just still.
00:01:24If you think his mouth is moving out of his nose.
00:01:26He's throwing up out his nose now.
00:01:28Dispatch then instructs Al to begin CPR.
00:01:31But despite the seriousness of the situation, this is far easier said than done.
00:01:36I'm blowing in his brain, and it smells real rotten in the inside of his stomach.
00:01:40You're going to cover his mouth with your mouth.
00:01:42Go ahead.
00:01:42Though Al struggles to perform mouth-to-mouth, he continues with chest compressions until
00:01:55emergency services and police officers arrive.
00:01:57One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
00:02:05Okay, sir, you're doing a good job.
00:02:06Okay, go ahead and open the door for me.
00:02:09While emergency services race to save Dakota, Al is asked to move to the front porch.
00:02:20Dakota is rushed to the children's medical center.
00:02:22Tragically, once there, the ten-year-old is pronounced dead.
00:02:26However, this is just the beginning of the troubling revelations.
00:02:30As soon as officers arrived at Al's home, they made some disturbing observations,
00:02:35which were then confirmed by the medical staff who attempted to save Dakota's life.
00:02:39Following these discoveries, Al was brought to the police station to answer questions regarding
00:02:43the circumstances surrounding his son's death.
00:02:46Want to have a seat right here?
00:02:48In that blue chair?
00:02:49That blue chair right there.
00:02:52The lady's here to come talk to you.
00:02:53You're going to be cool?
00:02:54Yes, sir.
00:02:54Okay, man.
00:02:55All right.
00:02:57What's going on?
00:02:58I'm Detective Floss.
00:03:00Detective Floss is going to be coming in a minute, too.
00:03:02There we go.
00:03:03Al was placed in handcuffs following an altercation that took place moments before this interview.
00:03:12While in another room, Al picked up a chair and began pounding on the door and walls with it.
00:03:17Officers told him to put the chair down, and when he failed to do so,
00:03:21they used force to subdue him and place him in the cuffs.
00:03:24Following the incident with the officers, Al stated that he had an injury to his lip.
00:03:45Once Al has had a satisfactory drink, the detective gets down to business.
00:04:04We are going to be interviewing you in regards to the crime of a homicide, okay?
00:04:10Homicide is kind of a catch-all for somebody that died more than likely not of natural causes.
00:04:24Make sense?
00:04:25Yeah.
00:04:25So it kind of covers a lot of things.
00:04:26It could be murder.
00:04:27It could be...
00:04:28That's the thing.
00:04:29I don't even know why my child is dead.
00:04:32I still don't know.
00:04:34If your child's dead?
00:04:35No, they just told me he's dead, but they didn't tell me what killed him or anything like that.
00:04:40You know what I mean?
00:04:41Although Al claims that he was just told about Dakota's death,
00:04:44he had actually been given a grim update just moments after emergency services arrived at his home.
00:04:50Boy, he's dead.
00:04:52Is he your child?
00:04:54Yes, he's breathing.
00:04:55So you're not breathing at all?
00:04:58All right.
00:04:59I'm trying to keep the child's here, man.
00:05:01So I'm good.
00:05:01This was only the beginning of the disconcerting things Al would say to investigators.
00:05:06In the interrogation room, the detective begins reading him his rights.
00:05:10No promises or threats have been made to me,
00:05:12and no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me.
00:05:18I don't want to agree with that right now.
00:05:20That man just bopped me in my s*** and told me I did it.
00:05:23So I don't.
00:05:24I'll put that was pressure right there.
00:05:27I wanted to speak immediately.
00:05:30You what?
00:05:30I said, I just, yeah, I feel like he pressured me.
00:05:33Okay.
00:05:34But are you wanting to talk to us now?
00:05:36You have that right?
00:05:37Yes, I do.
00:05:38Al eventually agrees to waive his rights,
00:05:40and the detective begins by addressing one of the first things officers and emergency services noticed about Dakota.
00:05:46First of all, he had marks all over his body.
00:05:49It's every day.
00:05:50Now, sometimes I had to thank his behind just to prevent him from hurting himself.
00:05:56This boy jumped out the window before.
00:05:59Out, just straight out the window.
00:06:00There is no stopping him.
00:06:02I'm afraid.
00:06:03I've been telling people I was afraid, but at the same time, it was nothing I can do.
00:06:08And I mean, I can't understand the fact that he had marks all over his body.
00:06:11You'd be surprised just to sit there and watch him do it.
00:06:14Or just to sit there and you could just be like, stop, or no, or don't.
00:06:18And he's gonna whack, he's gonna bam, he's gonna jump, he's gonna flip, he's gonna kick.
00:06:24We had stairs, he was like, he would kick him like that, you know what I mean?
00:06:28And kick him all kind of ways in the corner.
00:06:30Al will explain these odd claims in greater detail shortly, but for now, the detectives establish who else lived in the home.
00:06:37The house was actually owned by Al's girlfriend, 30-year-old Amanda Henzey, who lived there along with her sister, 27-year-old Jennifer Jenny Ebert, and Al's three-year-old brother.
00:06:49Al and Amanda began raising Al's younger brother when his mother was no longer able to care for him.
00:06:54Neither Amanda nor Jenny were Dakota's mother, but both would eventually speak with authorities and add twisted layers to this already troubling case.
00:07:03I had to just send Dakota upstairs.
00:07:07I mean, the living environment, it was fine.
00:07:09It wasn't, it was perfect, actually.
00:07:13When he went up there, he didn't stink.
00:07:14He had bed, he had clothes, he had everything he wanted.
00:07:18But this is the point that I'm trying to make as a parent.
00:07:21This is how far this is going.
00:07:22Like, I can't get a boy a blanket.
00:07:25Because if I give him a blanket, now he has marks all over his body from him pissing on himself and wrapping around his own blanket.
00:07:32Investigators would soon take a closer look at Dakota's living situation.
00:07:36And what they find couldn't be further from Al's description of perfect.
00:07:40Anytime that I put my hands on him, it was to keep him from hurting himself.
00:07:45And I mean, as far as I wouldn't beat him with anything, I would just grab him and like,
00:07:49Hey, but that's enough, like arms behind your back, like the police do.
00:07:53You know what I mean?
00:07:54It was never punch you in the eye or slam you or, you know what I mean?
00:07:59Never tried to do nothing out of the way to him just to keep him from hurting himself.
00:08:03Already, Al has packed his interview with a lot of information and disturbing claims.
00:08:07Seeking a clear understanding of what was going on.
00:08:10Investigators brought Al's girlfriend, Amanda, in to speak with them.
00:08:13Did they say how he died?
00:08:15What happened?
00:08:16I didn't talk to you.
00:08:17That's why we want to talk to you.
00:08:20If I sign it, do I still have the right to a lawyer?
00:08:23Yeah, if you want a lawyer, you can, like I said, you can stop at any time.
00:08:26You request an attorney.
00:08:28After clarifying, Amanda agrees to speak with them, but has one more question before they begin.
00:08:33Is this where my sister's at?
00:08:35Yeah, she's, um, we just put her in a different room.
00:08:38She's bipolar and ADHD and depression, and she's not all there.
00:08:44She's got a learning disability, so I'm not sure she's all right.
00:08:47She's not all there, like...
00:08:49She has a learning disability.
00:08:50She doesn't talk much.
00:08:52She doesn't talk much?
00:08:53She's never had a job.
00:08:55I'm trying to take care of her.
00:08:58Tell me about Dakota.
00:09:01What about him?
00:09:02I mean, just kind of tell me about him.
00:09:05I don't know anything about him.
00:09:06He, well, when we first got together, he was fighting for custody of him in Wisconsin.
00:09:12That's how we met.
00:09:14He got overnight visits with him, and he was a good kid.
00:09:19He bounced around, fostered home, foster home.
00:09:22Then after probably a few years, after we got custody, we moved here in 2014.
00:09:29He went to school, got a horseman.
00:09:35He had a lot of behavior problems.
00:09:37You know, hurt me with the knife one time, so I took all the knives away.
00:09:42Let me ask you this.
00:09:43He stayed upstairs?
00:09:45Did he stay up there?
00:09:47He stayed up there, right?
00:09:48Yeah.
00:09:49We were talking about him pooping and peeing and everything up there.
00:09:51Yeah.
00:09:52Like, locked up there?
00:09:53No, no, uh-uh.
00:09:54Uh-uh.
00:09:54We never locked him up there.
00:09:56Despite this claim, Al and Amanda don't appear to be on the same page when it comes to what
00:10:00went on in the attic.
00:10:02So who goes in the upstairs?
00:10:03We leave it locked.
00:10:05Because it leaks.
00:10:06No, it's off limits.
00:10:08So why is there urine and stuff up there?
00:10:11Our dogs go up there sometimes.
00:10:13And pee in buckets?
00:10:14You got to train your dog to pee in buckets?
00:10:16There's no buckets.
00:10:17So, Tara, there's a swimming room in there.
00:10:20There shouldn't be no buckets.
00:10:21In the attic, investigators found a small, barren room that smelled strongly of urine
00:10:27and feces.
00:10:28There were no working lights, but there was a bucket, the pools Amanda mentioned, and
00:10:33a yellow stool with two of the legs missing.
00:10:36This stool would become sickeningly relevant as Al's interrogation continued.
00:10:41Investigators also noted there was what appeared to be blood smeared on the attic walls,
00:10:45a large, clear plastic tarp, and a shower curtain that both appeared to have feces all over
00:10:50them, and a green cot that resembled a lawn chair.
00:10:54It was later determined that this was Dakota's bed.
00:10:57Curiously, investigators noticed right away that the home was filled with images of Al,
00:11:01Amanda, Jenny, and Al's little brother.
00:11:04But not one picture showed Dakota.
00:11:07While these discoveries were unsettling, they were nothing compared to what Al would eventually
00:11:11reveal.
00:11:12But the thing is, the thing is, like, uh, when I did have counselors speak to him, he
00:11:18would play them so slick to the point where he'd be like, you know, he was all good and
00:11:23golden.
00:11:23Like, they wouldn't believe the stories that I'd tell them.
00:11:27You know what I mean?
00:11:28For me to tell somebody that he's getting anything like that, I mean, and he didn't have to do
00:11:32it.
00:11:33It's not something that we forced upon him or anything like that.
00:11:36Like, if I would give him ice cream and a couple of cigarettes, not that I ever gave
00:11:42names, but just speaking in general, like, uh, he would do anything in the world.
00:11:46You know what I mean?
00:11:48Anything in the world that you ask him only when he get in his way.
00:11:52He was a bully.
00:11:53Even during the 911 call as his son lay unresponsive in front of him, Al made similar remarks to the
00:11:59dispatcher.
00:11:59You said he has medical history.
00:12:01What kind of medical history does he have?
00:12:03I mean, just, just mental behavior.
00:12:05See, he just hurts himself all the time.
00:12:07You wake up, don't get a grade, slam his head, eat it.
00:12:10Sorry, I understand.
00:12:12Okay.
00:12:12It never ends.
00:12:13He got suspended.
00:12:14So where's he going to school?
00:12:15Uh, he was going to horseman.
00:12:17He's been homeschooled for the last two years.
00:12:20Who's homeschooling him?
00:12:22Um, I was.
00:12:25Yep.
00:12:26Why did you have to think about that?
00:12:28I was, my lip hurt.
00:12:30I'm just like, you know, I've been up for three days.
00:12:33As I'm telling you, I still haven't took a nap, been to sleep.
00:12:38So I'm doing my best.
00:12:40Once again, Al and Amanda's stories are not aligning.
00:12:43So where does he go to school now?
00:12:45He's homeschooled.
00:12:46By there?
00:12:47Yeah.
00:12:48I give, uh, make homework assignments.
00:12:50I usually print them off the library and let them get into my sister to get to him.
00:12:55And then he reads his books and all that.
00:12:58While Al claims Dakota was being homeschooled for the past two years because he'd been suspended,
00:13:03investigators eventually spoke with some of the teachers at the Horace Mann Elementary School.
00:13:08And they painted a very different picture of not only Dakota, but Al as well.
00:13:12His principal didn't recall Dakota having any behavioral problems.
00:13:16I would say a well-rounded student here at school, friendly, helpful.
00:13:22He wanted to just kind of please people.
00:13:26So anything that he can do to help out, he will volunteer.
00:13:31Investigators asked one of his teachers if Dakota would act out in the ways that Al claimed.
00:13:35Dakota, I never saw anything like that whatsoever.
00:13:38Dakota would usually take himself to separate himself from all the other students, sometimes
00:13:44the other adults, and just kind of stand and cry for that matter.
00:13:48I never personally saw him do anything where he would harm himself.
00:13:52He was a very emotional child.
00:13:55I wouldn't say he was necessarily violent in any way.
00:13:59He would definitely get down on himself and be really sad.
00:14:02He did tend to cry quite a bit, but I mean, he was one of the sweetest children.
00:14:07He loved to make people laugh and just happy-go-lucky all the time.
00:14:13However, as shared by the school nurse, the staff also noticed concerning things about Dakota.
00:14:19What I do remember is that he was very thin.
00:14:22And I know that people on breakfast would give him extra food and stuff like that,
00:14:26you know, because he was always hungry.
00:14:27And that oftentimes we would wash his clothes because he had a strong smell of urine all the time.
00:14:33So he would stay in the clinic and I had extra clothes he would wear while I washed his clothes
00:14:39and put it back on.
00:14:40And I know dad didn't like that.
00:14:42He didn't like that we were washing his clothes.
00:14:44But, you know, I felt bad for him as a kid.
00:14:46As far as Al's claim that he began homeschooling Dakota because he'd been suspended,
00:14:50the school's principal expressed an entirely different account of events.
00:14:54Dakota had an accident on himself,
00:14:56needed to get changed.
00:14:58Dad was aware of that and was upset.
00:15:02I don't want my son going to the clinic.
00:15:05I'm tired of you all questioning my son.
00:15:08That was over the phone.
00:15:09And then I know when he came in,
00:15:12I saw dad face-to-face.
00:15:13And that was right before he was withdrawn from school,
00:15:15before Dakota was withdrawn from school.
00:15:18And dad said he was pulling him out
00:15:19because he was upset with us in regards to calling children's services and questioning his son.
00:15:26And he didn't want him here anymore.
00:15:27Members of the school's staff had called children's services on multiple occasions,
00:15:31but it seemed that those reports went nowhere as Dakota was soon withdrawn to be homeschooled.
00:15:37It's clear that there's a disconnect with how Al describes his 10-year-old son
00:15:41and what his teachers recall.
00:15:43But the question is why would a father depict his own child so negatively?
00:15:47Horrifically, Al is only getting warmed up
00:15:50and will soon make his most unsettling and shocking claims yet.
00:15:54I want to talk about today.
00:15:56You said you haven't been to sleep, is that right?
00:15:59I said I haven't, no matter.
00:16:00Okay.
00:16:01So what happened when he woke up this morning then?
00:16:04He never went to sleep.
00:16:06Okay, so then what happened,
00:16:08what's been going on since 6 a.m. this morning?
00:16:11So 6 a.m. this morning,
00:16:13I look at the camera,
00:16:16I see him plunging on his table,
00:16:20I mean his chair.
00:16:22I don't think nothing about it.
00:16:23I'm just like, you know, he's doing his normal weird thing.
00:16:26So sometimes I felt like ignorance was the best answer
00:16:30because he was basically just seeking attention at any cost.
00:16:33You know what I mean?
00:16:34Any cost.
00:16:35He's been dealing with this since he was younger.
00:16:37He's been in the system since he was 2 years old.
00:16:39Anytime he didn't have his way,
00:16:41he'd make sure CPS showed up at the house.
00:16:44Okay, so keep going with it.
00:16:45And he would tell them just anything.
00:16:47You know, the most outlandish thing.
00:16:49And then he said, kill myself.
00:16:51I'm going to, uh, this, that, and a third.
00:16:54The next part of Al's story is stomach churning,
00:16:57making it clear that the horrific reveals
00:16:59have only just begun.
00:17:00I'll get up around, uh, say about 8 o'clock,
00:17:05go get him his breakfast and stuff like that.
00:17:07So I'll go up there,
00:17:08and he's laying on his tarp,
00:17:10and, uh, he's got it in his butt.
00:17:12I'm like, what the hell do you think you're doing?
00:17:14I said, pull it out right now.
00:17:16He wants to get the wrestling,
00:17:18and you know what I mean?
00:17:19Either way.
00:17:20I don't know what you mean
00:17:21because I don't live in your house, so.
00:17:22Well, he want to get wrestling and aggressive.
00:17:26Like, he don't want me to take it out of him,
00:17:28and he don't want me to have it, period.
00:17:30You know?
00:17:31So, uh, I grab it out.
00:17:34Blood squirt.
00:17:37Yup.
00:17:38And he started dripping.
00:17:39So, uh, put him in the shower.
00:17:42I mean, I put him in the bathtub,
00:17:43and I tried to clean it up
00:17:45and look at it
00:17:46to see if it was, uh,
00:17:48worth me taking him to the ER the right way.
00:17:50But, to the eye,
00:17:52my eye, I'm not the doctor.
00:17:54It didn't look that bad.
00:17:56So, I'm just thinking.
00:17:56What did you see?
00:17:58Uh, just like, uh,
00:18:00his butt hole with a little blood.
00:18:03Because, you know,
00:18:03I checked it out afterwards.
00:18:04I'm like, whoa, let me see.
00:18:06But, you then did.
00:18:07And it was, uh,
00:18:08looked a little swollen.
00:18:10Okay.
00:18:11You know?
00:18:11So, you didn't see any injuries or anything?
00:18:13Not, not too heavy.
00:18:15I mean, I've seen his butt swollen
00:18:17and his legs and his arms and all that,
00:18:19but I see that every day.
00:18:21The detectives will dive deeper
00:18:23into the details of Al's claims.
00:18:25But, for now,
00:18:25they let him continue
00:18:26with his disturbing story.
00:18:28Al says that after bathing him,
00:18:30he sent Dakota upstairs.
00:18:32I'm sitting on the couch
00:18:33and he's like,
00:18:34Dad, help.
00:18:35What time is this
00:18:36when you heard him say,
00:18:36Dad, help?
00:18:37I can't tell you exactly.
00:18:39I ain't had no clock in front of me.
00:18:40Approximately.
00:18:41Was it?
00:18:42I ain't been asleep in three days.
00:18:43The time,
00:18:44I'm pretty bad off right now.
00:18:46I'm gonna come down to the time.
00:18:47Okay.
00:18:48So, was it
00:18:49long before you called the police
00:18:51or shortly before you called the police?
00:18:55Once you said,
00:18:56Dad, help.
00:18:56I called the police five minutes later.
00:18:59Okay.
00:18:59Less than that.
00:19:00Just enough to wrench him off.
00:19:02He's upstairs
00:19:03and he said,
00:19:03Dad, help?
00:19:04Yep.
00:19:05And you come downstairs?
00:19:07Yep.
00:19:08And what happens
00:19:08when you're upstairs?
00:19:09He's talking to you.
00:19:10He called for help.
00:19:11Yep.
00:19:12He was talking to me
00:19:13and then he just quit
00:19:15talking to me.
00:19:16Upstairs?
00:19:17Yep.
00:19:18But he was doing like this.
00:19:20Like, uh,
00:19:21help.
00:19:22So, I go up there
00:19:23to help him out
00:19:24and, uh,
00:19:25he's got some stuff
00:19:26coming out of his mouth.
00:19:28You know what I mean?
00:19:29On my head,
00:19:30I'm thinking
00:19:30it all automatically.
00:19:32Al then describes
00:19:33helping Dakota
00:19:34down the stairs
00:19:35to go back
00:19:35into the bathroom.
00:19:36Is he still talking?
00:19:38No, uh-uh.
00:19:39Not, not much.
00:19:41So he,
00:19:41I mean,
00:19:41but he's still moving.
00:19:42His eyes is looking at me.
00:19:44He's doing his normal thing.
00:19:45His eyes are looking at you?
00:19:46Mm-hmm.
00:19:47Okay.
00:19:47What's his normal thing?
00:19:49Uh, you know,
00:19:49just the freak out
00:19:51that I was telling you about.
00:19:52You know,
00:19:52the freak show.
00:19:53Okay.
00:19:54You know what I mean?
00:19:54But only,
00:19:55this only happens
00:19:56when he's out a lot of options.
00:19:58Did he have his clothes?
00:19:59Did he have clothes on?
00:20:00Did he have clothes on
00:20:01at the time?
00:20:02Yeah.
00:20:02What was he wearing?
00:20:03No, he didn't have
00:20:04no clothes on.
00:20:04and the reason
00:20:06I didn't give him
00:20:06no clothes
00:20:07is because
00:20:08if I give him clothes,
00:20:09he's gonna spoil him
00:20:10right away.
00:20:12Amanda is also asked
00:20:13about the issue
00:20:14of Dakota's clothing.
00:20:15What clothes
00:20:16does he wear?
00:20:17He had jeans
00:20:19and khaki pants
00:20:21and t-shirts.
00:20:22I had to throw
00:20:2299% of them out.
00:20:24What did he have left?
00:20:25He only had
00:20:26a couple pairs left
00:20:27until I got some more.
00:20:29They were in his room.
00:20:30And the room
00:20:31where all the toddler
00:20:32clothes were?
00:20:33Yes.
00:20:33That's where all the clothes
00:20:34are taller size.
00:20:35I kept all the clothes there.
00:20:37Yet when investigators
00:20:38finished with a thorough
00:20:39search of the house,
00:20:40they didn't find
00:20:41any clothing
00:20:41that would have fit Dakota.
00:20:43As upsetting as this is,
00:20:45it's only the tip
00:20:45of the iceberg
00:20:46when it comes to the horror
00:20:47that Dakota endured.
00:20:49So,
00:20:50I just wanted to make sure
00:20:51before I wasted
00:20:52the authorities' time
00:20:53that he was not
00:20:54playing around.
00:20:55So I'm like,
00:20:56uh,
00:20:56you know,
00:20:57it's normal.
00:20:58You get me?
00:20:59Okay.
00:21:00Because usually
00:21:00I could be like,
00:21:01you stop right now.
00:21:03I mean,
00:21:03like right now
00:21:04or,
00:21:05uh,
00:21:06or really not
00:21:06to scare them.
00:21:07Or I'll just be like,
00:21:08maybe I'll take
00:21:09your dinner away tomorrow.
00:21:10Wouldn't do that.
00:21:11But as a dad,
00:21:12I gotta,
00:21:12uh,
00:21:13come up with something
00:21:13to try to make
00:21:15a person think
00:21:16that she's serious.
00:21:17After realizing
00:21:17that it actually
00:21:18was serious,
00:21:20Al says that he
00:21:20finally called 911.
00:21:23Though the detectives
00:21:24are still trying
00:21:24to make sense
00:21:25of Al's story,
00:21:26he changes the subject
00:21:27to ask them
00:21:28a noteworthy question.
00:21:29Am I the only one
00:21:30being charged here?
00:21:32I don't think
00:21:33anybody's been charged yet.
00:21:34Okay,
00:21:35I'm just asking.
00:21:36I don't know
00:21:36what's going on.
00:21:37You hear me?
00:21:38Since Al has inquired
00:21:39about anyone else
00:21:40possibly being charged,
00:21:41the detectives
00:21:42follow this train of thought.
00:21:43Who else was home today
00:21:44when this was all going on?
00:21:46Nobody.
00:21:47That I was aware of.
00:21:48Nobody's been home all day?
00:21:50Mm-mm.
00:21:50The house is pretty big?
00:21:51Yeah.
00:21:52Yeah,
00:21:52nobody that I was aware of
00:21:54was home.
00:21:56And Amanda wasn't there?
00:21:57Mm-mm.
00:21:57Not that I'm aware of.
00:21:58I've been sitting here
00:21:59so long.
00:22:00Me and Jenny never talk.
00:22:02Why not?
00:22:03Just because.
00:22:04There ain't no drama.
00:22:05That's like my girlfriend's
00:22:06sister,
00:22:07so I try to keep it short.
00:22:09She lives with you
00:22:10and she helps
00:22:10take care of your children,
00:22:11right?
00:22:12Yeah.
00:22:12In her interview,
00:22:13Amanda explains
00:22:14where she and Jenny
00:22:15were that afternoon
00:22:16when Al was trying
00:22:17to resuscitate Dakota.
00:22:18So tell me
00:22:19what happened today.
00:22:21I woke up around
00:22:221 p.m.
00:22:23and I left.
00:22:24I grabbed my sister
00:22:25and I went to make
00:22:26some errands
00:22:27to get to the bank
00:22:28before they closed.
00:22:29I had to put some money
00:22:30in the bank
00:22:31and I made a couple
00:22:32other errands
00:22:33and then I got back home
00:22:34and the cops were there.
00:22:35They didn't tell me
00:22:36anything that was going on.
00:22:38Al came out
00:22:39and said Dakota
00:22:40was unresponsive
00:22:41and he had to call
00:22:42the ambulance.
00:22:43That's all I know.
00:22:44By the time Amanda
00:22:45and Jenny arrived
00:22:46back at the house,
00:22:47Al was already
00:22:48on the porch
00:22:48and Dakota
00:22:49was being rushed
00:22:50to the hospital.
00:22:51There may be
00:22:51a very good reason
00:22:52Amanda was in a rush
00:22:53to get out of the house,
00:22:54but she wouldn't be
00:22:55confronted about it
00:22:56just yet.
00:22:57Did you go by
00:22:58Walgreens too?
00:22:59Mm-hmm.
00:23:00Yep.
00:23:00Stopped the Walgreens
00:23:01stuff on the phone.
00:23:02This seemingly
00:23:03insignificant detail
00:23:04will actually be crucial
00:23:06to help decipher
00:23:06how much Amanda
00:23:07actually knew.
00:23:09With Al and Amanda
00:23:09sharing vastly
00:23:10different recollections
00:23:11about Dakota,
00:23:13investigators turned
00:23:14to the third adult
00:23:14in the home,
00:23:15Jenny,
00:23:16hoping she may
00:23:17share some insights.
00:23:18Her testimony
00:23:19would prove to be
00:23:20exactly what they
00:23:21were looking for,
00:23:21but what she has
00:23:23to share
00:23:23is far more harrowing
00:23:25than anyone
00:23:25can imagine.
00:23:26I'm not going down.
00:23:30I'm not going down
00:23:31because I don't care.
00:23:40She can hate me
00:23:41as she wants.
00:23:41She can hate me
00:23:42as she wants.
00:23:44I don't care.
00:23:45She's okay.
00:23:47I don't care.
00:23:50I don't care.
00:23:51Somewhat ironically,
00:23:52Jenny is wearing
00:23:53a shirt that says
00:23:54I'd help,
00:23:55but I don't want to.
00:23:56Let's start
00:23:57moving again.
00:23:59Okay?
00:24:00Tell me what
00:24:00this is.
00:24:06Well,
00:24:07I moved down here
00:24:07three years ago.
00:24:09Okay.
00:24:09And,
00:24:10well,
00:24:12I moved down here
00:24:13because I had
00:24:14to take care of the boys.
00:24:15And that was the whole
00:24:16deal that I'd take
00:24:17care of the house
00:24:18and the boys
00:24:18and he would buy
00:24:19my dog dog food
00:24:20or I'd clean the house
00:24:21and do the boys.
00:24:23So,
00:24:24um,
00:24:25I can't.
00:24:28Okay.
00:24:28You're okay, honey.
00:24:29Take a breath.
00:24:30Yeah,
00:24:31just...
00:24:32I'm gonna tell everything.
00:24:34I guess I don't know
00:24:35what I'm gonna talk
00:24:36because I'm not
00:24:37going down for this
00:24:38no more.
00:24:39Okay.
00:24:39Because
00:24:40they always say
00:24:41if everything,
00:24:41anything happens,
00:24:42we're all going down.
00:24:43Well,
00:24:44I'm not going down
00:24:45as much as they are.
00:24:46I'm tired.
00:24:48Somebody told you
00:24:48you all were going down
00:24:49for it?
00:24:50Who?
00:24:51Amanda.
00:24:52Amanda told you
00:24:53you all were gonna
00:24:53go down for it?
00:24:54Okay.
00:24:55When they get to
00:24:56the topic of Dakota,
00:24:57Jenny's reaction
00:24:58is markedly different
00:24:59than her sister
00:25:00and else.
00:25:00Oh,
00:25:01I can't do this.
00:25:03I don't know.
00:25:04Can you give me
00:25:05a second just now?
00:25:06Yeah.
00:25:06Every time.
00:25:09Well,
00:25:09he was in that
00:25:10room
00:25:12downstairs
00:25:13and then
00:25:14he
00:25:15was misbehaving
00:25:17because he was
00:25:17pooping everywhere.
00:25:20He could choose
00:25:21the bathroom anytime,
00:25:22whatever,
00:25:22you know,
00:25:22like a normal child.
00:25:24But he would
00:25:25refuse to choose
00:25:26the bathroom
00:25:26and use that
00:25:27himself every night
00:25:28and everything.
00:25:30and first
00:25:30he started spanking
00:25:31him,
00:25:31putting him
00:25:32in the corner
00:25:33that escalated
00:25:35from there.
00:25:36And then he would
00:25:36stop punching him,
00:25:38kicking him,
00:25:38elbowing him
00:25:39in the gut,
00:25:40smacking him
00:25:41across the head
00:25:41and everything.
00:25:43And then
00:25:43he
00:25:45recently
00:25:46started using
00:25:47a taser on him.
00:25:49Then we got
00:25:50this metal spatula
00:25:51down,
00:25:51or whatever,
00:25:52that he used
00:25:54to beat him
00:25:54with.
00:25:55Back with Al,
00:25:55the detectives
00:25:56ask about something
00:25:57else unsettling
00:25:58that they noticed
00:25:58in the home.
00:25:59So you watched
00:26:00him on the
00:26:00camera?
00:26:01I was,
00:26:01yes.
00:26:02How come we
00:26:03couldn't see that
00:26:03view of the camera
00:26:04when we were there?
00:26:05That I don't know.
00:26:07When investigators
00:26:07entered the attic,
00:26:08they found a
00:26:09dismantled camera
00:26:10on the floor.
00:26:11Did you unplug it
00:26:12before you called
00:26:12the police?
00:26:13No.
00:26:13No?
00:26:14No.
00:26:14It's just odd to me
00:26:16that we couldn't
00:26:16see that view
00:26:17that you keep
00:26:17It works sometimes,
00:26:19sometimes it works,
00:26:20sometimes it don't.
00:26:21It's a 24-hour
00:26:21job, though.
00:26:23Right.
00:26:23So like I say,
00:26:25sometimes it works,
00:26:26sometimes it don't.
00:26:27I do the best I can.
00:26:28I can't keep
00:26:29functioning for 24 hours.
00:26:31In her interview,
00:26:32Jenny explains a bit
00:26:33more about the
00:26:34surveillance system
00:26:34set up in the home.
00:26:36So there was a
00:26:36camera upstairs?
00:26:38Yeah.
00:26:39They kept a camera
00:26:39up there while he
00:26:41was in the attic?
00:26:42Yeah.
00:26:43To watch him.
00:26:45Is that stuff
00:26:45recorded?
00:26:48What is it,
00:26:48live?
00:26:49So you can only
00:26:50watch what
00:26:50it's going on?
00:26:51Why exactly
00:26:53Dakota was being
00:26:54watched at all times
00:26:55wouldn't be fully
00:26:56explained until later.
00:26:57For now,
00:26:58Al continues
00:26:58to lament
00:26:59his situation.
00:27:00I done had
00:27:01a social service
00:27:02at my house
00:27:02maybe 40,
00:27:0350 times.
00:27:04I done had,
00:27:05you know what I mean?
00:27:07So for me to
00:27:08bring him to the
00:27:09doctor like,
00:27:09oh, he cracked
00:27:10his nugget again.
00:27:11And social services
00:27:12already told me
00:27:13the only way
00:27:14they're going to
00:27:15take him
00:27:15is if they
00:27:16charge me
00:27:17with something.
00:27:18Like neglect
00:27:19or it's not,
00:27:20I can't do this.
00:27:22Can y'all
00:27:23please help me?
00:27:24Earlier in his
00:27:25interview,
00:27:25Al made a similar
00:27:26claim about
00:27:26contacting outside
00:27:27services for help
00:27:28with Dakota.
00:27:29I called the police.
00:27:31The police told me
00:27:32he was being unruly
00:27:33and that when he
00:27:35got a little older
00:27:36they'll be able to,
00:27:37you know,
00:27:37put him in some
00:27:38type of juvenile
00:27:39center.
00:27:40And I mean,
00:27:41this is the day
00:27:42after he jumped
00:27:43out the window.
00:27:44I mean,
00:27:44I'm traumatized
00:27:46every day.
00:27:47It's a new show.
00:27:48Al actually did
00:27:49contact the police
00:27:50for help with Dakota
00:27:51on November 18th,
00:27:532018.
00:27:54Al told the police
00:27:55that when he tried
00:27:56to put Dakota to bed,
00:27:57he started cussing
00:27:58at him and Amanda,
00:27:59told them he just
00:28:00wanted to be
00:28:01disrespectful,
00:28:02and had been going
00:28:02to the bathroom
00:28:03on the floor.
00:28:04When officers arrived,
00:28:06Al told them that
00:28:06he wanted them to
00:28:07take Dakota to
00:28:08the juvenile
00:28:08justice center.
00:28:09Instead,
00:28:10Officer Thames
00:28:11placed Dakota
00:28:11in handcuffs
00:28:12and escorted him
00:28:13to the backseat
00:28:13of his cruiser.
00:28:15The officers noted
00:28:15that Dakota was
00:28:16limping because
00:28:17he'd been injured
00:28:18when he apparently
00:28:18jumped out of the
00:28:19attic window
00:28:20the night before.
00:28:21When asked why
00:28:22he wasn't wearing
00:28:22a cast even though
00:28:23he'd been taken
00:28:24to the hospital,
00:28:25Al said Dakota
00:28:26cut it off.
00:28:27The officers
00:28:28never mentioned
00:28:28in their report
00:28:29if they entered
00:28:30the home
00:28:30or if they asked
00:28:31Dakota for his
00:28:32side of the story
00:28:33before they left.
00:28:35Al wasn't the only
00:28:36one to contact
00:28:36the police.
00:28:37On May 14th,
00:28:382019,
00:28:39about seven months
00:28:40before Dakota's
00:28:41death,
00:28:42Robin,
00:28:43Dakota's mother,
00:28:43also called
00:28:44of the authorities.
00:28:45Hi,
00:28:45I need to speak
00:28:46with somebody
00:28:47about doing
00:28:47a welfare check
00:28:48on my son
00:28:48who I believe
00:28:49is in danger
00:28:50right now.
00:28:50And I don't know
00:28:51how you guys
00:28:52do things
00:28:52or how it works
00:28:53or anything,
00:28:54but I believe
00:28:55that his father
00:28:55is abusing him
00:28:56and hurting him
00:28:57and that he's
00:28:58too scared
00:28:59to tell anybody
00:29:00because his father
00:29:01won't let him
00:29:01talk to anybody.
00:29:02He's pulled him
00:29:02out of school.
00:29:03So if you guys
00:29:05need my permission,
00:29:06I'm giving you
00:29:06guys full permission
00:29:07to pull him
00:29:08to the side
00:29:08and speak with him
00:29:09without his father
00:29:10present.
00:29:10Robin explained
00:29:11that Al
00:29:12had full custody
00:29:13of Dakota.
00:29:14I did not know
00:29:15where he was living
00:29:15because he was
00:29:16supposed to be
00:29:16living in Erie,
00:29:17Pennsylvania.
00:29:18Thank God
00:29:19that he caught
00:29:19a drunk driving
00:29:20in Dayton, Ohio
00:29:21and now I have
00:29:21his address.
00:29:22Locked him in his room,
00:29:23he tried to jump
00:29:24out a window,
00:29:25he sent him
00:29:25to school in a diaper,
00:29:26he pulled him
00:29:26out of school,
00:29:27he whipped him
00:29:28with a belt,
00:29:29just a bunch of stuff
00:29:30that's very concerning
00:29:31to me.
00:29:31Okay,
00:29:32and you think
00:29:32that he's actively
00:29:33abusing him right now?
00:29:35Yes,
00:29:35I think he is,
00:29:36yes.
00:29:37Okay,
00:29:37I definitely do.
00:29:38just the way
00:29:40that he's talking
00:29:41to him on the phone
00:29:42telling him how angry
00:29:43he is with him
00:29:44and how if I don't
00:29:45come and get him
00:29:45something's going
00:29:46to happen
00:29:46and he's going
00:29:47to take him
00:29:48to a group home
00:29:49and drop him off
00:29:50and how when he's
00:29:51axed up how he
00:29:52disciplines him
00:29:53with a belt
00:29:54and he'll lock him
00:29:55in the room
00:29:55and just very
00:29:57demeaning
00:29:58and very vulgar.
00:29:59I don't really know
00:30:01if he's telling
00:30:01the truth or not
00:30:02but even if he's not
00:30:04I would feel much
00:30:05better knowing
00:30:06that a police officer
00:30:07pulled my son
00:30:08to the side
00:30:08and talk to him
00:30:09one-on-one
00:30:10to make sure
00:30:10that nothing
00:30:11is going on.
00:30:12Following Robin's call
00:30:13officers were dispatched.
00:30:14They reported
00:30:15that Al wouldn't
00:30:16let them inside
00:30:16the house
00:30:17but spoke to them
00:30:18through the screen door.
00:30:19Al even brought
00:30:20Dakota to the front door.
00:30:22The officers noted
00:30:23that he was properly
00:30:23dressed but didn't
00:30:25speak very much.
00:30:26When he did
00:30:26they said he was
00:30:27soft-spoken and polite
00:30:28and answered their
00:30:29questions by saying
00:30:30yes ma'am
00:30:31or no ma'am.
00:30:33The officers also
00:30:34wrote in their report
00:30:34that Dakota gave
00:30:35no indication
00:30:36that someone was
00:30:37troubling him
00:30:37and they couldn't
00:30:38see any injuries
00:30:39through the screen door.
00:30:41However,
00:30:41they didn't speak
00:30:42to him one-on-one
00:30:43as Robin had requested.
00:30:45Once again,
00:30:46the police left Dakota
00:30:47with his father
00:30:47without further investigation.
00:30:50The detectives
00:30:50now speaking with Al
00:30:51return to one of his
00:30:52more disturbing claims.
00:30:54So your story
00:30:55I just want to go back
00:30:56to this too.
00:30:57You said this morning
00:30:57first thing this morning
00:30:59I think you said
00:30:59around 6 a.m.
00:31:00on the camera
00:31:01you noticed he was
00:31:02plunged up I think
00:31:04was your word?
00:31:04Yeah.
00:31:05So he is
00:31:06But I wasn't quite sure
00:31:08because the light
00:31:09was off.
00:31:10Okay.
00:31:11So like
00:31:11there was like
00:31:12a yellow stool thing.
00:31:13Is that what
00:31:13you're talking about?
00:31:14Mm-hmm.
00:31:15Okay.
00:31:16It must have snapped
00:31:17it off because
00:31:17last time I checked
00:31:18it was
00:31:18it was still
00:31:21connected inside
00:31:22of the thing.
00:31:24And that's what
00:31:25he was plunging?
00:31:26Mm-hmm.
00:31:27Can you describe
00:31:27what you mean
00:31:28by plunging to me?
00:31:29All right.
00:31:30So look
00:31:30he had
00:31:32a chair like this
00:31:34Right.
00:31:35You take the band off
00:31:36that's called
00:31:37it flat on the ground.
00:31:38Okay.
00:31:39And I've seen him
00:31:40going like this
00:31:41you hear me?
00:31:42I wasn't telling
00:31:43it I wasn't
00:31:44So he's putting
00:31:45the chair like
00:31:45in his butt
00:31:46that's what you're
00:31:47saying he's doing.
00:31:47Yep.
00:31:48But here's the thing
00:31:49I wasn't able to tell
00:31:50if that's where
00:31:51he was going
00:31:51or if he was
00:31:53just taking another
00:31:54Because every night
00:31:55he'd get up
00:31:56he'd do stuff
00:31:57like this
00:31:57and just you know
00:32:00wham it
00:32:01and scream
00:32:02Ah!
00:32:03When speaking
00:32:04with Jenny
00:32:04the detectives
00:32:05also ask about
00:32:06the stool leg.
00:32:07There was
00:32:08part of like
00:32:09a stool or something
00:32:10What was going
00:32:12on with that?
00:32:13He would make
00:32:13him sit on it
00:32:15with his legs
00:32:16wide open
00:32:16because
00:32:17I don't know
00:32:18the whole reason
00:32:18He would sit on it
00:32:20when it was
00:32:20part of the chair
00:32:21Yeah
00:32:21when it was
00:32:22all the way
00:32:22together
00:32:23because
00:32:24he wouldn't
00:32:25stand still
00:32:27with his legs
00:32:27crossed
00:32:28hands behind
00:32:29his head
00:32:30and then he
00:32:31brought back
00:32:31home when
00:32:32Jane made
00:32:32sit on it
00:32:33Though this
00:32:33is a passing
00:32:34comment about
00:32:35Dakota standing
00:32:35with his legs
00:32:36crossed
00:32:36and hands
00:32:37behind him
00:32:38it would come
00:32:39up again later
00:32:39For the time
00:32:40being
00:32:41they focused
00:32:41on finding out
00:32:42more about
00:32:43the stool
00:32:43leg
00:32:44Did you see
00:32:45Al with
00:32:46this
00:32:46like one
00:32:47of the
00:32:47legs
00:32:48today?
00:32:49He hid it
00:32:49behind the
00:32:50dresser
00:32:50and over
00:32:51the room
00:32:51a part of
00:32:53it
00:32:53and then
00:32:53the other
00:32:54one was
00:32:55in the sink
00:32:56in the bathroom
00:32:57Investigators
00:32:58found the
00:32:59two broken
00:32:59stool legs
00:33:00one behind
00:33:01the TV
00:33:01and the other
00:33:02in a laundry
00:33:02basket
00:33:03outside the
00:33:03bathroom
00:33:04So how far
00:33:05in was it?
00:33:06I can't say
00:33:07That's the thing
00:33:08I don't know
00:33:09You don't know?
00:33:10Because I
00:33:10ripped it out
00:33:11so quick
00:33:12Okay
00:33:12Yeah
00:33:13And so then
00:33:14he started
00:33:14squirting blood
00:33:15everywhere
00:33:15Not much
00:33:16It was just
00:33:17like a
00:33:18just a real
00:33:19little bit
00:33:20a little bit
00:33:20here
00:33:20a little bit
00:33:21there
00:33:21When Jenny
00:33:22gave her account
00:33:23of what happened
00:33:23that day
00:33:24she had a
00:33:24troublingly
00:33:25different version
00:33:25of events
00:33:26She says
00:33:27that first
00:33:28thing in the
00:33:28morning
00:33:28Dakota was
00:33:29stumbling
00:33:29when he
00:33:30came down
00:33:30for breakfast
00:33:31and that
00:33:31when he
00:33:32was using
00:33:32the bathroom
00:33:33Al
00:33:33elbowed him
00:33:34in the back
00:33:35He started
00:33:36feeding on him
00:33:37and then
00:33:38he
00:33:38turned on
00:33:40the back
00:33:41and
00:33:42it sounded
00:33:43like he
00:33:44was drowning
00:33:44him
00:33:45So he
00:33:46was talking
00:33:47to him
00:33:47and telling
00:33:47him he
00:33:47was going
00:33:48to drown
00:33:48him
00:33:48and it
00:33:49sounded
00:33:49like that
00:33:50because
00:33:50all hair
00:33:50was splashing
00:33:51because he
00:33:52wouldn't clean
00:33:52his shorts
00:33:52because he
00:33:53came down
00:33:53wet
00:33:54this morning
00:33:56and he
00:33:58took him
00:33:58back upstairs
00:33:59and threw
00:34:00him around
00:34:01and he
00:34:03made him
00:34:03lay on
00:34:03his stomach
00:34:04hands behind
00:34:04his back
00:34:05and he
00:34:05stepped on
00:34:06him
00:34:06and then
00:34:09he made
00:34:09him lay
00:34:09in the bed
00:34:10and he
00:34:11was laying
00:34:12on his
00:34:12side
00:34:13and then
00:34:14he was
00:34:15at the
00:34:17back of
00:34:17him
00:34:18I don't
00:34:18know what
00:34:18he was
00:34:19doing
00:34:19that day
00:34:19I couldn't
00:34:20see
00:34:20and then
00:34:22he threw
00:34:23him back
00:34:24off
00:34:24the bed
00:34:25drug him
00:34:26a little
00:34:26bit
00:34:26and then
00:34:28I don't
00:34:30know
00:34:30Jenny said
00:34:31after this
00:34:32she went
00:34:32into her
00:34:33room
00:34:33I got
00:34:34woken up
00:34:34by Amanda
00:34:35crying
00:34:35and freaking
00:34:36out
00:34:36and that's
00:34:37when we
00:34:37left
00:34:38because Dakota
00:34:40wasn't
00:34:40breathing
00:34:40This is a
00:34:41completely
00:34:42different
00:34:42timeline
00:34:43than the
00:34:43one both
00:34:43Al and
00:34:44Amanda
00:34:44shared
00:34:45Jenny also
00:34:46reveals more
00:34:47about why
00:34:47she and Amanda
00:34:48left the house
00:34:48to run
00:34:49errands
00:34:49and go
00:34:50to Walgreens
00:34:50Despite
00:35:05Amanda's
00:35:05initial claim
00:35:06that she
00:35:06didn't know
00:35:07anything was
00:35:07wrong with
00:35:08Dakota
00:35:08it seems
00:35:09like she
00:35:09knew a lot
00:35:10more than
00:35:10she's letting
00:35:11on
00:35:11In fact
00:35:12Jenny claimed
00:35:13that Amanda
00:35:13was the one
00:35:14who told Al
00:35:15to call 911
00:35:15in the first
00:35:16place
00:35:16after realizing
00:35:18Dakota
00:35:18wasn't
00:35:18breathing
00:35:19Yet in
00:35:20her interview
00:35:21Amanda
00:35:21continues to
00:35:22feign ignorance
00:35:22about what
00:35:23happened to
00:35:23the 10-year-old
00:35:24Explain to me
00:35:25what all these
00:35:26marks are
00:35:26on Dakota
00:35:27What marks?
00:35:30The marks
00:35:30all over his
00:35:31body
00:35:31From something
00:35:33out the window
00:35:34or what?
00:35:35No
00:35:35I don't
00:35:36look at
00:35:37his
00:35:37I don't
00:35:38know
00:35:38He's
00:35:39marks on
00:35:39his body
00:35:40I don't
00:35:41he's
00:35:41tan
00:35:42I don't
00:35:42look at
00:35:43his body
00:35:43I have
00:35:47no idea
00:35:48Like marks
00:35:49on his
00:35:49face
00:35:50you didn't
00:35:51you never
00:35:51noticed the
00:35:52marks on
00:35:52his face
00:35:52I didn't
00:35:53see him
00:35:53this morning
00:35:54I haven't
00:35:55seen him
00:35:55Or maybe
00:35:56this big cut
00:35:57that's on
00:35:57his ink
00:35:58like around
00:35:58his foot
00:35:59You never
00:36:01noticed that
00:36:01Despite
00:36:03Amanda's
00:36:03denials
00:36:04Jenny continues
00:36:05to divulge
00:36:05increasingly
00:36:06harrowing
00:36:06details
00:36:07Did Dakota
00:36:08take a
00:36:08beating
00:36:09last night
00:36:09is that
00:36:10like he
00:36:10was so
00:36:10disoriented
00:36:11today
00:36:12He could
00:36:12have
00:36:13but I
00:36:13went to
00:36:13bed early
00:36:14because I
00:36:15had to
00:36:15get up
00:36:15early
00:36:16See it's
00:36:17fair to
00:36:17say maybe
00:36:18he did
00:36:18maybe he
00:36:18didn't
00:36:19last night
00:36:20Right
00:36:20Okay
00:36:21But he
00:36:22gets beat
00:36:22on every
00:36:23day
00:36:23Pretty
00:36:24much
00:36:24Okay
00:36:25It's unusual
00:36:26when you
00:36:26don't
00:36:27Okay
00:36:27And
00:36:28you
00:36:30did you
00:36:31ever try
00:36:32to take
00:36:32him to
00:36:32the doctor
00:36:33get him
00:36:33medical help
00:36:34or anything
00:36:34No
00:36:36Jenny's claim
00:36:55here sounds
00:36:55concerningly
00:36:56similar to
00:36:57everything Al
00:36:57has been
00:36:58telling detectives
00:36:58in his
00:36:59interrogation
00:37:00While this
00:37:01is worrying
00:37:01her next
00:37:02revelation
00:37:02adds another
00:37:03heartbreaking
00:37:04element to
00:37:04this
00:37:04devastating
00:37:05case
00:37:06Back in
00:37:18Al's
00:37:18interrogation
00:37:19his
00:37:20statements
00:37:20are just
00:37:21as callous
00:37:22The detectives
00:37:44decide to
00:37:45take a quick
00:37:45break from
00:37:46speaking with
00:37:46Al
00:37:47When they
00:37:47return
00:37:48they confront
00:37:48him about
00:37:49his own
00:37:49past
00:37:50We were
00:37:50looking at
00:37:51your history
00:37:51It looks
00:37:52like you
00:37:53had a
00:37:53couple
00:37:54things going
00:37:56on
00:37:57Oh
00:37:57small
00:37:58stuff
00:37:58Yeah
00:37:59Yeah
00:38:00like the
00:38:01child
00:38:01endangering
00:38:02What was
00:38:02that?
00:38:03Al
00:38:07Al
00:38:08Al
00:38:23Al
00:38:23actually has
00:38:24three
00:38:24sons
00:38:25with
00:38:25Dakota
00:38:26being
00:38:26the
00:38:26youngest
00:38:27As unsettling as this is, Al soon adds another sickening detail to his account,
00:38:32one that he previously withheld until this point.
00:38:57While Al signs a consent form to allow the detective to take a buckle swab,
00:39:24he asks about what Amanda and Jenny are sharing in their version of events.
00:39:54Just minutes later, Al once again changes his story, making it unclear when, if at all, he's telling the truth.
00:40:00What are you thinking with?
00:40:02A spatula.
00:40:04A spatula?
00:40:05Yep.
00:40:06It was flat.
00:40:08Yep.
00:40:09What is this here?
00:40:11That's a rash.
00:40:12That's from his nastiness.
00:40:14Just a rash.
00:40:15Laying in his piss every day, ate his back up.
00:40:17No, that's not.
00:40:19That, I don't know what that is.
00:40:21I thought it was a rash.
00:40:22I've been seeing it for weeks.
00:40:24I actually thought it was a rash.
00:40:25Maybe you said it to the doctor you would know.
00:40:27What could I have done to cause that?
00:40:29What cause is that?
00:40:30Dragged him.
00:40:31Dragged him where?
00:40:32Down the steps.
00:40:33No, ma'am.
00:40:34No, ma'am.
00:40:35On the carpet.
00:40:35No, no, ma'am.
00:40:36We don't have any carpet.
00:40:38I did not drag him.
00:40:40Just as they've been doing with Al, the detectives continue to confront Amanda
00:40:43with the undeniable images of Dakota's countless injuries.
00:40:46So you never noticed, you never realized he had these marks all over his body, on his
00:40:55arms, on his hands.
00:40:58You never noticed that stuff?
00:41:00Uh-uh.
00:41:00I usually leave.
00:41:05That's not quite stupid, okay?
00:41:07Because I really don't have a lot of tolerance for stupid, you know what I mean?
00:41:11Especially when it comes to a kid that lost his life.
00:41:13So this is your chance to explain this to us, because you're not stupid, okay?
00:41:19You can kind of play like you are, but you're not stupid.
00:41:22So let's discuss how this happened to him.
00:41:25Did you do this to him?
00:41:26Did you do this to him?
00:41:27No.
00:41:28Were you beaten on him?
00:41:29No.
00:41:30Okay, who was?
00:41:31I don't know.
00:41:31I wasn't there.
00:41:32You do that.
00:41:33I wasn't there.
00:41:33Come on.
00:41:34But you're still not stupid.
00:41:36I never touched him.
00:41:38I never surrounded him.
00:41:40How about you homeschooled him?
00:41:42Yeah.
00:41:42and you didn't talk to him?
00:41:44Barely ever.
00:41:44You never noticed that this kid was probably miserable his entire 10 years, or at least
00:41:50the time that this has been going on, because this didn't just happen.
00:41:54Though Amanda isn't providing any answers, in her interview, her sister Jenny is clarifying
00:41:59some of the details Al and Amanda didn't agree on.
00:42:01So he did pretty much stay up in the attic, though.
00:42:06Did he get locked in that room a lot?
00:42:09No.
00:42:11Yes?
00:42:11There's actually more to this piece of the story, but Jenny wouldn't explain it just yet.
00:42:19When she does, it sheds an entirely new light on the horrendous conditions Dakota lived in.
00:42:25Perhaps without realizing it, Jenny also clarified the reason behind one of the more disturbing
00:42:30accusations Al made about Dakota's behavior.
00:42:32While Al and Jenny have slowly been painting an appalling picture of Dakota's daily suffering, Amanda
00:43:00has been less than helpful.
00:43:02In her interview, things are about to take a turn.
00:43:04With Amanda refusing to speak, the investigators have Al run through the day's events once more,
00:43:33and this time around, he includes new unsettling details about the second time he brought Dakota to the bathroom.
00:43:39And he was in the water going like this and, you know what I mean, shaking and jumping,
00:43:44but I didn't, uh, I didn't have to hold him down or dunk him in the water, you know.
00:43:50So, uh, he was laying on his side doing this and then he's just putting on the show again, you know what I mean?
00:43:56He puts on a show like he's having a seizure?
00:43:59Oh, yeah.
00:44:0024-7.
00:44:03Like this.
00:44:05Are you sure he's putting on a show?
00:44:06I mean, he hasn't been to the hospital.
00:44:08Yes, ma'am.
00:44:08It was not a seizure because, look, I could tell him, like, stop it right now.
00:44:12Here's the sucker.
00:44:13Many times.
00:44:14And he'd be like, okay, Dad.
00:44:16Thanks, my sucker.
00:44:19You know, it was, it was just a show.
00:44:21Al's disregard for the seriousness of the situation continues as he seems only capable of focusing on himself.
00:44:29Like I said, uh, it really shocked me today.
00:44:32I am so shocked.
00:44:33This is going to be the rest.
00:44:34I'll be in prison for the rest of my life because of this right here.
00:44:38This is my child.
00:44:39Why are you going to be in prison?
00:44:41I mean, I'm the man.
00:44:42I'm, I'm the only parent.
00:44:43I'm responsible.
00:44:45You know what I mean?
00:44:47I'm just trying to teach him a lesson, but not in a physical aspect.
00:44:51Can you tell him a lesson?
00:44:55All right.
00:44:57It took his life.
00:44:59And I am very sorry.
00:45:01I mean that.
00:45:02It kills me.
00:45:03You hear me?
00:45:04To know that water did that or, and then my attitude to where I've been spanking him.
00:45:10I ain't got a lot of it.
00:45:11It did get out of control at times, but not that often.
00:45:15And I thought he would snap back from it.
00:45:19You know what I mean?
00:45:20From his ass whooping.
00:45:22With Jenny, the detectives dive into some of the other things that went on in the house
00:45:26that Al didn't address.
00:45:28Hey, I have a question.
00:45:29There was like a dog leash or something hanging in the living room.
00:45:32While this may seem like a reasonable answer, investigators were deeply concerned when they found a dog leash hanging from a screw above the couch.
00:45:51When Al was asked about the leash before his interrogation, he claimed Dakota was the one who hung a punching bag from it to get his energy out.
00:45:59Not Al's younger brother, as Jenny says.
00:46:01Regardless, Dakota's autopsy would reveal injuries that put both of these answers in question.
00:46:06Is there anything at all that you can think of, abuse to Dakota, or anything at all that you can think of that you haven't told us that could help us in this investigation?
00:46:17As Al's interrogation wraps up, he once again focuses on himself.
00:46:29I don't know, man.
00:46:36I'm afraid for my life.
00:46:39Yeah.
00:46:41I'm hurt that my child is gone.
00:46:43It's unbelievable.
00:46:45Like, I don't believe right now.
00:46:47He's dead.
00:46:48Gone.
00:46:50Not coming back.
00:46:52You're afraid for your life?
00:46:54Yes, I am.
00:46:54Your child's dead, and you're afraid for your life?
00:46:58I'll be spending the rest of my life in prison.
00:47:01I'm 30 years old.
00:47:03What I'm a dude for the rest of my life, all because I tried to raise my child the right way, and he became defiant, and we ran into a situation.
00:47:12But we in Ohio, that's automatic death penalty, ain't it?
00:47:17It is, ain't it?
00:47:19What are you thinking is death penalty?
00:47:22They just changed the law.
00:47:23They'll look into that, I'm not sure.
00:47:25I'm not sure either.
00:47:26They decide to leave Al, but before they go, he makes another plea.
00:47:31Please, Al, please don't do it to me.
00:47:33Just hang on real quick, okay?
00:47:34Molly, 30, please.
00:47:38Both Jenny and Amanda were allowed to leave the police station.
00:47:41Before she goes, the investigators attempt to find a way to remain in contact with Jenny,
00:47:46a feat that gives some insight into the dynamics of the house.
00:47:49Do they keep the bones from you?
00:47:51Yes, I'm not allowed to have a...
00:47:53phone, the internet, or phone, or whatever.
00:47:55Why is that your grown-ass woman?
00:47:57Right, because apparently I've told too many secrets.
00:48:01Is that this time?
00:48:02I can't keep my mouth shut.
00:48:06Though she doesn't have a phone, Jenny promises to stay in contact with the detectives as the
00:48:10investigation continues, and she'll soon reveal even more unthinkable tortures that Dakota endured.
00:48:15Before Al is taken to jail, investigators make sure to photograph the injury he sustained when
00:48:21officers had to restrain him earlier.
00:48:22Oh, go ahead and stand up real quick for me.
00:48:25And face that wall.
00:48:27No, turn around and face me.
00:48:28Okay.
00:48:31No, look at me first.
00:48:33There you go.
00:48:42Take your look.
00:48:43What's your name?
00:48:44Full time.
00:48:45This is kind of pretty bad.
00:48:46A few minutes later, they return again.
00:48:49All right, man.
00:48:49Go set up.
00:48:50Put your hands on your back.
00:48:57We're going to take you to the ballot because you checked out.
00:48:59All right?
00:49:02You need something you want to be in charge?
00:49:03What?
00:49:04Right now, murder and child endangering.
00:49:06Murder?
00:49:06Yes.
00:49:07What does murder mean?
00:49:11Murder means you killed your child.
00:49:12I planned it.
00:49:13What's that?
00:49:14That means I planned it or something?
00:49:16No, I didn't say you planned it.
00:49:17All I'm saying is that you murdered your son.
00:49:19Anybody else be in charge?
00:49:20I haven't decided yet.
00:49:22Once at the hospital, Al was overheard speaking to himself, and police reports state that he
00:49:26said at least seven times out loud that, quote, he must have drowned because I did not
00:49:31beat his ass that bad today.
00:49:33Investigators also had the heartbreaking task of informing Robin, Dakota's mother, of his
00:49:38death.
00:49:39So you beat him to death, pretty much, right?
00:49:41You beat my son to death?
00:49:43Um, that's possible.
00:49:45He, um, definitely had a lot of injuries.
00:49:47Did Al make comments to you?
00:49:50Yes, he did.
00:49:52What did he do?
00:49:52Rock's comments about how he was going to kill him, about how he beat him, about how he
00:49:58beat him with a belt because his son was gay, and about, um, how I will never see him
00:50:02again, all types of stuff.
00:50:04I stopped answering the phone because it was just nothing but traumatizing for me and
00:50:08my son.
00:50:09I went to social services.
00:50:11I told them that he was going to kill him.
00:50:14I told them he removed him from school.
00:50:16He removed him from people he cared about, and he is beating him on a daily basis, that
00:50:21it was only a matter of time before he killed my son.
00:50:24After a few moments, Robin recovers and asks about the other people involved in the case.
00:50:36And where is that, Amanda?
00:50:38Where is she?
00:50:39Where is she?
00:50:41Amanda.
00:50:41Tell me about Amanda.
00:50:43She's a no good piece of...
00:50:46How could a woman stand there and allow him to beat on that baby like that?
00:50:51How?
00:50:52Did she claim she loved him?
00:50:56I'm so sorry, Robin.
00:50:57I haven't seen him since he was five.
00:51:01That was left by my students.
00:51:03Well, I'm going to do everything in my power to get justice for Chita, okay?
00:51:10Yeah, because if you don't, I'm going to f***ing kill him, but goddamn stop.
00:51:13You don't do that to a little baby.
00:51:16You're just a baby.
00:51:18I know.
00:51:19Do you guys have the death penalty down there?
00:51:21Yes, we do.
00:51:23This is still under investigation now, okay?
00:51:25Amanda had remained steadfast during her interview, and even after Al was arrested, she stayed in
00:51:31close contact with him.
00:51:32They spoke over the phone and recorded jail calls, discussing the case.
00:51:36They're trying to see if they have enough to indict me.
00:51:39I got a hundred million dollar bond.
00:51:41No, a million dollars.
00:51:42Million, yeah, million dollar bond.
00:51:44And, uh, what are they charging me with?
00:51:47It said four counts of child endangerment.
00:51:49Right.
00:51:50And I hear, here, they give you a lot of time for that.
00:51:53The only time I ever did anything to always try to get them to control themselves.
00:51:57That's the story.
00:51:58Stick to it.
00:51:59You always got to be my witness.
00:52:00That boy's voice is gone.
00:52:02I'm gonna be there for you, baby.
00:52:03If Dakota was alive, he would speak for me.
00:52:05I know.
00:52:06But you're my voice.
00:52:07You're my only voice.
00:52:08While they mostly reassured each other, Al also occasionally reminisced about Dakota.
00:52:13But I was just thinking about his last days.
00:52:16He kissed me.
00:52:16Kissed me on both sides of my face.
00:52:19Something he loved me.
00:52:21Remember when he went to go get the hair dryer?
00:52:23Yeah.
00:52:23So I kept telling you, Daddy, I love you.
00:52:26Daddy, I love you.
00:52:27I love you, Daddy.
00:52:28However, the couple also discusses the third person involved in the case.
00:52:32Jenny.
00:52:32So Jenny free too?
00:52:34Yeah.
00:52:34They let her out first.
00:52:35Right.
00:52:36No worries.
00:52:37You hear me?
00:52:37Like I said, just, uh, you make sure you inform somebody of that girl mental condition.
00:52:42I told them that she's got bipolar and ADHD.
00:52:45When they put her on the stand Monday, she's not going to be able to handle it.
00:52:48Right.
00:52:49She went too crazy.
00:52:50Right.
00:52:50I'm already hit.
00:52:52This wasn't the only time they discussed Jenny.
00:52:54It seems they learned she had shared far more than they did with police.
00:52:58During another call, they attempt to speak in code.
00:53:01So Jenny says she's trying to take me down, huh?
00:53:04But yup, that dog don't shut up.
00:53:06Got to go.
00:53:07So try to tame it the best you can.
00:53:10I've been, every day, been telling that dog to stop barking.
00:53:14Right.
00:53:14It won't stop.
00:53:15Just bark over me.
00:53:17Oh yeah.
00:53:17Yeah, we be getting that new barking collar.
00:53:19And remember, talk to the dog.
00:53:23Talk to the beef and collar and all that.
00:53:25Let that dog know it's very important.
00:53:27You hear me?
00:53:28No.
00:53:28That, uh, that, that, that he stay quiet.
00:53:31While it's unclear what exactly happened after this call, when Jenny came to speak with police
00:53:35again a few days after her first interview, she made some dramatic changes to her story.
00:53:40Is there anything else you think we should know?
00:53:44Did anything else come up?
00:53:46Not really.
00:53:47Just, I know, Dakota pretty much did this meant, like, he didn't do it mainly to himself, but
00:53:53he always, like, because Al doesn't abuse him.
00:53:58He just disciplined him.
00:53:59He just, like, used a spatula to spank his hands and his butt.
00:54:02But when I told you that he stomped on him that day, I didn't.
00:54:08Okay, let me stop you real quick.
00:54:10I know that Amanda's manipulating you.
00:54:12No, she is not.
00:54:13No, she is not.
00:54:14No, she is not.
00:54:15I'm telling you, really telling you what is going on.
00:54:18Why would Amanda tell me things to say?
00:54:19Because your story has consistently changed everything.
00:54:22Yeah, it could, but I could remember some stuff, too.
00:54:25Jennifer, you're about to get yourself caught in a trick bag.
00:54:28We have the jail calls.
00:54:30We have the conversations between Al and Amanda where they're telling you that you're a dog
00:54:34and that you need to get that dog to shut the f*** up.
00:54:37If that dog talks, that dog's going to get f***ing counted.
00:54:41All right?
00:54:41We have the jail calls.
00:54:43So all you're doing right now is you're lying for two individuals that physically abused
00:54:46your child for years.
00:54:48That's what's happening right now.
00:54:49And I think she probably still mentally abuses you.
00:54:51and I'm not okay with it.
00:54:55Okay?
00:54:58What can we do to help you, Jennifer?
00:55:08I know she's your sister, but she is not a good person.
00:55:12While Jenny may have shut down for now, she would speak to police one more time.
00:55:16And when she did, she didn't hold anything back.
00:55:19Before she did, though, Amanda and Al continued to speak and recorded jail calls.
00:55:24This time, they discussed Dakota's cause of death.
00:55:27The lady said that his autopsy came back at cardiac arrest.
00:55:31Heart just stopped.
00:55:32Yeah.
00:55:33Right.
00:55:34It happens to over 2,000 kids a year between the ages of 10 and 19.
00:55:40Right.
00:55:40But I know I can't do life from prison over this.
00:55:43Though it's unclear where exactly Amanda heard this information about Dakota's death,
00:55:48it wasn't accurate.
00:55:50In fact, his autopsy revealed the horrific extent of his injuries,
00:55:53and it's nothing short of brutal.
00:55:56Dakota had injuries to almost every part of his body.
00:55:59He had hundreds of healed and new lacerations
00:56:02and abrasions to his head, face, mouth, neck, chest, abdomen, back, buttocks, arms, hands,
00:56:10legs, and feet, and extensive bruising.
00:56:13Many of the injuries were considered to be in defensive locations.
00:56:17Deep bruising was observed to all areas of the head,
00:56:20and his buttocks was bruised all the way to the bone.
00:56:23On his back, there was a type of branding of four letters,
00:56:26beginning with the letter T.
00:56:28The most significant injury was severe bruising to the back of the neck,
00:56:32through all layers of neck muscle directly over the spine.
00:56:36This kind of injury is typically only seen in catastrophic events,
00:56:39such as a severe car accident.
00:56:42Dakota's cause of death was listed as multiple blunt force trauma
00:56:45in combination with compressive asphyxia and water submersion.
00:56:50By the time Jenny came in for her third interview,
00:56:52she was once again ready to speak.
00:56:54This time, she revealed more details about something
00:56:57she only mentioned in passing previously,
00:56:59the strange positions Dakota had to stand in.
00:57:02She stated that the surveillance system was set up
00:57:05so that they could watch Dakota all day,
00:57:07because Al forced him to stand in specific punishment positions
00:57:10the entire time he was upstairs.
00:57:12I'm going to get up and show you stuff that Dakota's supposed to do.
00:57:16So he's supposed to stand like this,
00:57:19with sometimes hands behind his head,
00:57:21sometimes behind his back.
00:57:22So if he goes like this,
00:57:27or just uncrosses him,
00:57:28Al freaks out.
00:57:30And then he's,
00:57:32I know this is going to be weird,
00:57:33but he's,
00:57:33I don't know,
00:57:34another thing,
00:57:35he's supposed to go like this,
00:57:36and he's supposed to bend over,
00:57:39just like this,
00:57:40and then have his hands spread out like this.
00:57:43Like all the time while he's up there,
00:57:51so he's not touching anything?
00:57:52Yeah.
00:57:53So for like hours,
00:57:55he's supposed to be doing that?
00:57:56Until seven in the morning,
00:57:58until about sometimes three,
00:58:01four in the morning.
00:58:03It's almost 24 hours.
00:58:05Well,
00:58:0520 hours,
00:58:06essentially.
00:58:06That he's just supposed to stand there either,
00:58:08with his legs crossed and over.
00:58:10Yeah.
00:58:10What's the point of that?
00:58:13I guess that was supposed to make him start listening,
00:58:16get things through his head,
00:58:17that he's stopped going to the bathroom on himself,
00:58:21I don't know.
00:58:22As truly horrifying as this new information is,
00:58:25Jenny made another shocking claim.
00:58:28He just likes getting into trouble,
00:58:29is what he always said.
00:58:31Who always said?
00:58:32Dakota.
00:58:33He's always been like that ever since,
00:58:36I don't know how long,
00:58:37but he always said,
00:58:38he just likes getting into trouble.
00:58:42Is this your way of thinking,
00:58:43where he was acting up,
00:58:45or is this what Al says,
00:58:46like he keeps acting up?
00:58:47Like where are you getting that that's acting out for him?
00:58:51That's what Dakota always says.
00:58:54Dakota would say what?
00:58:55That he likes,
00:58:56he does it just to get his beatings,
00:58:59and he just,
00:59:00I guess he always,
00:59:01I don't know,
00:59:02he just always said that.
00:59:04When did he say that?
00:59:05Al always asks him why he does it,
00:59:09and he always says,
00:59:10because I like getting my beatings,
00:59:12I just,
00:59:12stuff like that.
00:59:14He heard him say that?
00:59:15Yeah,
00:59:15he always said that,
00:59:16or when Al asked him.
00:59:18Following this interview,
00:59:19both Amanda and Jenny were arrested for child endangerment.
00:59:23Despite now being behind bars,
00:59:25Amanda still found a way to continue communicating with Al.
00:59:28During a jail call with her mother,
00:59:30Amanda set up how they would stay in contact.
00:59:32I ain't been on the kiosk yet,
00:59:33as soon as I get on there,
00:59:34I'm going to send a message for you to send to him.
00:59:37Amanda sent her mother messages intended for Al,
00:59:39who would then pass them to Al.
00:59:41When he replied,
00:59:42Amanda's mother would send them back to her daughter.
00:59:45That way,
00:59:45they were able to stay in contact
00:59:47when they weren't supposed to.
00:59:49They were able to keep this up for a few months
00:59:51before Amanda's mom was warned
00:59:52that she would lose communication with her daughters
00:59:54if she continued.
00:59:56However,
00:59:56Amanda wasn't the only person Al spoke to while behind bars.
01:00:00One of his friends also called him.
01:00:02Yeah,
01:00:02everywhere I go there,
01:00:03he's going to try to kill me,
01:00:04bro.
01:00:04Yeah.
01:00:05Yeah.
01:00:06It's hard,
01:00:06bro.
01:00:07I know,
01:00:07bro.
01:00:08I feel for you,
01:00:09man.
01:00:09You about to have a hard bed,
01:00:11bro.
01:00:11Yeah,
01:00:11even in the state,
01:00:12bro,
01:00:12it's going to be bad.
01:00:13Yeah,
01:00:14it's going to be bad.
01:00:15Yeah,
01:00:15prepare yourself for this.
01:00:17It ain't nothing like this,
01:00:18though,
01:00:18huh?
01:00:18Nah,
01:00:19once you get to the joint,
01:00:20man,
01:00:20it's different,
01:00:21man.
01:00:21I hope you beat the case,
01:00:22but it's not looking like you going to,
01:00:24you know what I mean?
01:00:25Man,
01:00:25you going straight to Madison,
01:00:26you going to be in the blue suit,
01:00:32giving me life.
01:00:32I know,
01:00:33you hear me?
01:00:33Yeah.
01:00:34Then you got,
01:00:35man,
01:00:35you,
01:00:37Amanda and Jenny,
01:00:38they turning against you,
01:00:39bro.
01:00:39They about to be co-defensives against you,
01:00:41bro.
01:00:42You know that,
01:00:42don't you?
01:00:43I mean,
01:00:43I can't see on that type of situation.
01:00:46You hear me?
01:00:47It's already out there talking about,
01:00:49you did this,
01:00:50you did that,
01:00:51you,
01:00:51you the one doing this,
01:00:52they terrified of you,
01:00:53you hear me?
01:00:54That's what they saying.
01:00:55Yeah,
01:00:55that's what the true girl is saying,
01:00:56bro.
01:00:56They trying to get,
01:00:57they trying to get out of this,
01:00:58you know what I'm saying?
01:00:59It seems Al's friend was at least partially correct
01:01:01about Jenny and Amanda speaking with police,
01:01:04as Amanda discussed with her mom
01:01:06in a recorded jail call.
01:01:07I got a message from my lawyer.
01:01:09Yeah?
01:01:10Yeah,
01:01:10it's ridiculous.
01:01:12They're trying to say that I'm basically
01:01:14between Jenny and Al,
01:01:15and that Jenny,
01:01:17I don't know how we word it,
01:01:18like,
01:01:19mine is higher than Jenny's or something,
01:01:21which is ridiculous,
01:01:23because Jenny was there all the time.
01:01:25Why not?
01:01:26And Jenny just pleaded out today.
01:01:28Today, Sean's court?
01:01:30I don't know,
01:01:30she made a plea deal.
01:01:31And so now with her making a plea deal,
01:01:34and they're trying to say,
01:01:35I'm higher than her,
01:01:35mine's going to look worse.
01:01:36Amanda and Jenny's mom
01:01:38even spoke with investigators
01:01:39about her daughter's situation.
01:01:41She says she will not testify against him
01:01:43because she loves him so much.
01:01:45Well,
01:01:45he needs to wake up.
01:01:46I think that she's going to learn things about Al
01:01:49that she may not know.
01:01:51You know,
01:01:51Al wasn't all just about Amanda,
01:01:54you know,
01:01:54and I,
01:01:54unfortunately,
01:01:55I think it was a lot more one way.
01:01:58While it isn't clear what changed her mind,
01:02:00Amanda didn't stay loyal to Al.
01:02:03Just like her sister,
01:02:05she eventually attempted to make a deal
01:02:06with the prosecutor.
01:02:08So now they're trying to say that,
01:02:09you know,
01:02:09we're off to a deal,
01:02:10and I don't know.
01:02:12No,
01:02:12maybe we can watch that now.
01:02:14Oh,
01:02:14no.
01:02:15I told her that it's not fair.
01:02:17I'm not.
01:02:18I told her that I was in an abuse relationship for years,
01:02:23since I got witnesses.
01:02:24I said,
01:02:25if someone tried to leave,
01:02:25he'd threaten me and my family.
01:02:27I mean,
01:02:28I know you still love him,
01:02:29but there's nothing there.
01:02:30Yeah,
01:02:31I know,
01:02:31but now,
01:02:31now Jenny gets a deal,
01:02:33and I'm stuck going to prison,
01:02:35so I'm being in a relationship.
01:02:37Despite Amanda's attempts to make a deal
01:02:39to lessen her sentence,
01:02:41she eventually pled guilty
01:02:42to involuntary manslaughter
01:02:43and two counts of child endangerment,
01:02:46and was sentenced to a minimum of 22 years in prison.
01:02:49Amanda later appealed her sentence,
01:02:51but will remain behind bars
01:02:53until at least 2041.
01:02:54Jenny also pleaded guilty
01:02:57to involuntary manslaughter
01:02:58and child endangerment,
01:03:00but because she cooperated with investigators,
01:03:02she was sentenced to at least eight years in prison.
01:03:06Al McLean pleaded guilty to murder,
01:03:08kidnapping,
01:03:08rape,
01:03:09and child endangerment.
01:03:10He was sentenced to 51 years to life in prison.
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