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00:00I may be just totally off my rocker, but I was just out walking my dog, and I came across some bones that looked to me to be human.
00:08He had been dismembered.
00:10Oh my god.
00:11Okay, and I, like I said, there was apparent saw marks, okay?
00:18What marks?
00:19Saw.
00:19Oh, saw.
00:20When a human's spine is discovered by a woman walking her dog in Mercer County in January 2016, it launches an investigation that will take years to unravel.
00:31Even with a bone-chilling confession, investigators are left questioning the truth behind their victim's unimaginably gruesome demise, and they will soon find themselves with another body on their hands before the case is over.
00:44The following report is based on official police records, and most of the footage has never been seen until now.
00:51Following the 911 call from the concerned dog walker, police discovered a skeletal human spine hidden among the frozen brush in a fairly remote area in Mercer County.
01:02Though they conducted a thorough search of the area, no other remains were found.
01:07This left investigators with two main questions.
01:10Who was their victim, and where were the missing body parts?
01:14Despite a DNA profile being uploaded to NamUs, a police database for missing persons cases, the identity of the victim remained unknown.
01:24That all changed in 2020, when a Bureau of Criminal Investigation agent working on cold cases connected the profile of a missing persons case in Columbus, Ohio, with the timeline of when the skeletal spine was discovered.
01:3821-year-old Ryan Zimmerman was reported missing at the end of November 2015.
01:43Just two months before the 911 call.
01:47Ryan had last been heard from a month prior in September.
01:51After contacting Ryan's parents and conducting a DNA test, investigators were able to confirm that the partial skeleton belonged to Ryan.
02:00They spoke to Ryan's father, Warren, over the phone.
02:03Your son did, um, it was obvious that there was foul play involved, okay?
02:08Um, there was some remains that we were not able to locate, okay?
02:13So it was also discovered that he had been dismembered.
02:18Oh my God.
02:19Ryan, I'm sorry to tell you that over the phone, but we did not find portions of him being the lower portions of the legs, the lower portions of the arms, or the skull.
02:35The location of Ryan's skull was like something out of a horror movie, but that wouldn't be revealed until much later.
02:46Even worse than discovering that Ryan had died were the details investigators shared with Warren about Ryan's remains.
02:53There was apparent saw marks, okay?
02:57Um...
02:57What marks?
02:58Saw.
02:59Oh, saw.
03:00Right.
03:00When he was found, um, it was basically skeletal remains.
03:05What is the sound like?
03:06Gangland?
03:07Or, uh, some kind of sick trafficking?
03:10Or what the hell?
03:11I mean, who would do something like that?
03:12Those are all questions that we are hoping to work to try to get some answers for Ryan and for your family, okay?
03:19Police were able to track down the three people living with Ryan in Columbus before Ryan's disappearance.
03:25Corey Buzzard, Sarah Buzzard, and Naira Jen Whittaker.
03:30On August 25th, 2021, officers had to find Sarah and Jen, who were now married.
03:36After moving out of the apartment they shared with Corey and Ryan, they now live at Sarah's mother's house.
03:42What will unfold shortly is a twisted and unpredictable case.
03:46One that is far more disturbing than anyone anticipated.
03:52I hear.
03:53We've had several calls on this subject.
03:56Usually welfare checks.
03:58It takes a few minutes, but eventually Sarah answers the door.
04:02Hello, police department.
04:04Hi.
04:05Looking for Sarah.
04:06That's me.
04:06Couldn't step out for me.
04:08Okay.
04:09All right, sorry I had to wake you.
04:10No, sorry.
04:11Um, can I have you for you?
04:12Well, I think you got a warrant.
04:14Warrant?
04:15Uh-huh.
04:16For what?
04:17It's out of Ohio, I think.
04:19It's a theft warrant, I believe.
04:21I'm at your location.
04:24Okay.
04:24All right, so we have to take care of it.
04:28Zero, zero, two.
04:28I've got her out front.
04:30All right, so go ahead and turn around.
04:31Put your hands behind your back for me.
04:33Though he doesn't know it just yet, the officer asks Sarah a question that will foreshadow a devastating
04:38series of events.
04:39I don't want to sound nervous, but do you have any weapons or anything in the house upstairs
04:43that I need to worry about?
04:45I don't do something.
04:46Don't.
04:47I mean, I don't want to come out with a gun or anything like a butt charge.
04:52Sarah informs the officers that her mother and Jen are inside the home, and they soon
04:57join her on the porch.
04:59Just a little bit.
05:01Okay.
05:01So what's going on?
05:03Well, we've got to take her downtown.
05:05I've got to look at exactly what the warrant is for, and then we'll go from there.
05:10It's all I can.
05:12It's through Ohio, so they sent us over here, so others sent the warrant over here.
05:18We get them from out of state all the time.
05:21You know what I mean?
05:22Sarah was in my daughter's zip.
05:24We never, never that kind of person.
05:27But if there's something missing over there.
05:31No, no, I mean.
05:32Take some deep breaths, Sarah.
05:34Yeah, when she move it.
05:35While the officer dances around their questions regarding Sarah's arrest, Sarah's disposition
05:41begins to take a turn.
05:43You been sick?
05:44No, I like it.
05:46We just woke up, sorry.
05:48Okay.
05:49Have you been sick, or?
05:51No.
05:51Just shot.
05:52Oh, okay.
05:53Despite looking like she might pass out, it's decided that Sarah can travel to the police
05:57station.
05:58Okay, I'm going to hold your arm so you don't fall over, okay?
06:00Thank you.
06:00Once at the police station and in an interrogation room, Sarah is told that detectives from Ohio
06:10want to speak with her.
06:13Hi, Sarah.
06:14Hello.
06:15I'm Megan Baker.
06:16I'm the sheriff's office in Ohio.
06:18I'm Rick Ward.
06:19Hello.
06:20Hello, Sarah.
06:21Well, I'm assuming you have lots of questions.
06:24Yes, I have.
06:25We're going to take some time to sit down with you here, and maybe we can get some answers
06:28for those questions for you, if that's okay.
06:29Sarah has read her Miranda rights and agrees to speak with the detectives.
06:34They immediately dive into questioning, beginning with her time in Columbus almost six years
06:39ago.
06:40Sarah explains that she lived with her then-husband, Corey Buzzard.
06:44While married to Corey, Sarah had also started dating Jen, who was transgender.
06:50Eventually, as her relationship with Sarah progressed, Jen moved in with Corey and Sarah.
06:54A few months later, they got another roommate, someone named Emma.
06:59And that's a little bit about why we're here, is to talk about Emma, also known as Ryan
07:04Zimmerman.
07:05He went missing.
07:07Are you familiar with any of that?
07:08No.
07:09Okay.
07:09So, I guess, tell me what you know about Ryan.
07:12Or Emma, if you know him as Emma.
07:15According to Sarah and Jen, Ryan was newly transitioning, which is why they knew Ryan by the name Emma.
07:21However, this claim hasn't been substantiated or verified by any members of Ryan's family.
07:28It's a little bit of a touchy subject.
07:30My husband, at the time, had sexual interests.
07:36They had talked online extensively and he had invited them to come stay with us, which I
07:47did not want to happen, but long story short, it did.
07:52After Sarah and her partner Jen move into the house with her and Corey, Corey decided to
07:57meet someone and reached out to Ryan online.
08:00After speaking for a short period, Ryan moved into the Columbus apartment as well.
08:05At the same time that Sarah is in interrogation at Sarah's mother's house, Jen is also being
08:10approached by detectives.
08:12However, Jen is a little more hesitant to speak with them.
08:15What seems like it may be a simple conversation about Sarah's apparent arrest for theft will
08:20soon have a nightmarish outcome.
08:23Please step outside.
08:25Okay, we have a search warrant for the residents too.
08:27Okay, so we're not stepping outside.
08:30We're working a missing persons case from Ohio.
08:32The Ohio Attorney General's office has a task force on missing persons.
08:37Okay.
08:38And Ryan Zimmerman, Ryan Zimmerman, lived with you guys in Columbus in 2015, with you and
08:46Sarah and Corey, September 2015, right?
08:50We want to see where they're going.
08:51And he's missing.
08:53And you guys were like the last people to see him.
08:55After clarifying that Ryan also went by the name Emma, or M, Jen remembers briefly living
09:01with Ryan.
09:02The investigators will often switch between referring to Ryan as Ryan and as M.
09:08or Emma.
09:09After only living with Corey, Sarah, and Jen for two months, Ryan was asked to leave.
09:14Sarah claims that Ryan and Corey's relationship ended, and Ryan never found a job, which was
09:19part of her agreement to allow Ryan to stay in the apartment.
09:23Because of this, Corey told Ryan to leave, and Ryan planned to leave on September 25th.
09:28This timeline correlates with the last time anyone heard from Ryan.
09:32I know that they had tried to plead with me to give them another chance, but I said that
09:41I'd already given too many chances, and that it was Corey's call, ultimately.
09:49And I remember them packing, and either I went to the store or I was in a different room.
09:59I don't remember.
10:00I just, I can't quite remember.
10:05Who was all home at the time?
10:07I was, um, Corey was not, and then my, my girlfriend was over.
10:19Um, so we might have been in the living room.
10:23I, I, honestly, I don't remember.
10:26Okay.
10:26Um, I just know that one minute, uh, Emma was there, and then the next, he had just left.
10:36Okay.
10:36Did you see him leave, like, pull away in a vehicle or something?
10:39Uh, somebody pulled up, and he got in the car and, and drove off.
10:44I thought that he might come back because he did leave his car, um, but he didn't come back,
10:50and then we didn't hear from him again.
10:52There will eventually be troubling discrepancies in Sarah and Jen's stories.
10:57The detectives at Sarah's mother's house asked Jen a follow-up question about Ryan's vehicle.
11:02What kind of car did he have?
11:05Did you ever ride in the car?
11:08Yeah.
11:09You were never in this car?
11:11Yeah.
11:12Okay.
11:12Had you ever driven it?
11:15Uh, yes.
11:17Okay.
11:17To the store or something, or when did you drive it?
11:20Um, to the, to a gas station.
11:24I couldn't get it to start again, um, so I had to call a tow company to bring it back,
11:33but I was embarrassed about it because I, I didn't really have permission to drive it.
11:39So did you drive it while he was still living there?
11:42No, this was after he'd left.
11:46Okay.
11:47Um, were you by yourself during this?
11:49My girlfriend was with me.
11:51Unknowingly, Sarah has just unraveled one of the mysteries behind Ryan's disappearance.
11:56Warren, Ryan's father, had been alerted that something was wrong when Ryan's vehicle was
12:01found abandoned.
12:03Though the license plate was missing, police found some of Ryan's belongings inside the
12:07vehicle, along with the keys and a full tank of gas.
12:11Warren had taken it upon himself to knock on neighbors' doors to see if they remembered
12:14anything useful about the car or Ryan's disappearance.
12:18To his surprise, someone did.
12:21One of the neighbors said they saw the car get dropped off by a tow truck near the apartments
12:25where Ryan was staying with Corey, Sarah, and Jen.
12:29And about a half hour later, the Columbus Police Department came and wrote the ticket up and
12:33had the car, the vehicle towed.
12:35I'm thinking, why would somebody, you know, it was like they wanted it to get picked up.
12:39Sarah claimed that she thought the vehicle had vanished because Ryan had returned and
12:43took it.
12:44What she doesn't add, not yet at least, is that there's an unsettling reason she'd been
12:49using Ryan's vehicle that day.
12:51Before moving on, the detectives return to the question of Ryan's behavior before leaving
12:56the apartment.
12:57Jen reluctantly gives the detectives some background information about the living situation before
13:01Ryan left, claiming Ryan was usually in the spare bedroom and was reclusive.
13:06Jen believed that Corey regretted asking Ryan to move in with them.
13:10Uh, I'm just kind of weird.
13:13I guess, how, how weird?
13:15Like, was she just kind of clingy?
13:17That's the thing, too.
13:18No, I'm so, okay, I have a pretty bad solution to this baby.
13:23Mm-hmm.
13:24But M seemed to have way worse solution to this baby.
13:27Okay.
13:28And how, I guess, how was M's behavior then?
13:33Accessibly shy.
13:35Okay.
13:35Jen also explains the reason for some of the tension with Ryan.
13:39Sorry, it's just the anxiety.
13:41Sure.
13:42I don't like to admit that I am trans, but it was just weird.
13:47Corey brought another trans person into the house.
13:50Mm-hmm.
13:51Because that's what they wanted.
13:52They had, I shouldn't use gender-interview of Corey, because that's confusing.
13:56Um, Corey had papers written up about, I forget what he calls it, like the trifecta or perfect
14:04relationship, but it involved one man, one woman, and a trans woman.
14:11Okay.
14:12Um, and I don't want any part of that.
14:15Sure.
14:15I'm assuming that's why they brought M in.
14:18I think Ryan was just kind of the last straw for me.
14:24Uh, tell me more about that.
14:26Why was he the last straw?
14:28Uh, that was probably one of the biggest arguments that, that we had to make him that third person.
14:37Uh, but, like, I obviously didn't agree with that, and, uh, the entire time it made me feel like I wasn't good enough.
14:48After Ryan apparently moved out of the apartment, Sarah and Corey divorced, and she married Jen soon after.
14:54The detectives take a break, and when they return, they will confront Sarah with the awful truth of why they are really there.
15:01Hey, I got you some more water.
15:03Sarah, um, I don't know if you know this or not, probably not, but you're talking to Jennifer right now, talking to your mom, and also talking to Corey.
15:21And there's major inconsistencies about the, and inconsistencies about this with your involvement with Ryan.
15:30And, you know, Ryan is now deceased.
15:33Um, he is.
15:35He's been murdered.
15:36So we have, Corey is talking to the Columbus police detectives right now.
15:41We just get off the phone with them.
15:43The detective isn't being entirely honest here.
15:45While officers have managed to track down Corey's new residence, Corey is proving less than enthusiastic about the prospect of speaking with officers.
15:54You're not in any trouble.
15:55I don't have an arrest warrant.
15:56Nothing like that, Corey.
15:57Okay?
15:58We just want to talk with you because your name was brought up as a witness.
16:01In a case of what?
16:02A homicide.
16:03Homicide.
16:04A homicide.
16:05I have not, I don't recall witnessing any homicides.
16:08Okay.
16:08We're just wanting to talk.
16:09That's it.
16:10Okay?
16:11That's it.
16:12I'm not, I haven't lied to you at all, uh, Corey.
16:14Okay?
16:15It's about Ryan.
16:17I don't know who Ryan is.
16:18Ryan lived with you for a while.
16:20Emma?
16:21He also went by Emma?
16:23Okay.
16:24He was a roommate for a while?
16:25Okay.
16:26Okay.
16:27That's what we're here to talk to you about.
16:28Uh, not without counsel.
16:30Okay.
16:30Do you have an attorney on hand?
16:32Yes.
16:33Okay.
16:33Do you think they would meet us down there?
16:35Can we make an appointment?
16:37I'd rather get this done today.
16:39I don't really think I have to work on your account.
16:42While the officer speaking with Corey have once again hit a dead end, those with Sarah
16:47began to lay out some of the evidence.
16:49I mean, this is, um, a bad situation.
16:53Um, we really need to know what happened.
16:56With the car, we have, we have DNA evidence.
17:00Um, we're able to track down your car, the one that you used to own, um, the time of this
17:08incident, we, uh, we were able to track down the current owner and we're able to examine
17:14it.
17:14So we have major, something happened, uh, in that apartment the weekend that you dropped
17:20Corey off with that girl in Columbus.
17:24The evidence the detective is referring to are reddish stains discovered on the carpet
17:29liner of Sarah's vehicle.
17:30Though she'd sold it, they found the new owners in July, 2021 and conducted tests inside the
17:36trunk.
17:37The stains produced presumptive positive results for suspected blood.
17:42Earlier, Sarah had claimed that Corey hadn't been home the weekend Ryan moved out because
17:46Corey was with another woman.
17:48In fact, Sarah had been the one to drive Corey and the woman to a hotel.
17:53Investigators spoke with the woman and confirmed that Corey was nowhere near the apartment where
17:58Ryan was last seen.
18:00While Corey may still prove to be an important witness to the events leading to Ryan's death,
18:05Sarah and Jen appear to be the last known people to see Ryan.
18:08So please just tell me the truth what happened.
18:12Corey's given a whole nother version of what you just said.
18:15Please, just please tell me the truth.
18:22I'm not comfortable talking about this.
18:26Well, I, I, we have a young...
18:28Was it an accident?
18:29Yeah.
18:30I don't know, I don't know what was an accident.
18:33With Ryan.
18:35I didn't even know that he was dead.
18:37Sarah, come on.
18:39Sarah.
18:40Sarah, Sarah, please.
18:41Is there someone that I can talk to?
18:43Well, I, you can talk to us.
18:44I just want, I just want the truth.
18:48The other officers also confront Jen with the news of Ryan's death.
18:52We're trying to find Emma and, um, we were somewhat successful in that.
18:57Okay.
18:58Wait, what?
18:59Somewhat?
19:00Mm-hmm.
19:01What leads?
19:02That's what we need you to fill in the gaps because whatever happened to Emma happened in
19:08in the apartment where you guys stayed at, and we've recovered evidence from the apartment.
19:14We recovered evidence from Sarah's car.
19:16Right.
19:17Blood.
19:18Wait, what?
19:18What?
19:19Mm-hmm.
19:20Blood from the trunk of the car.
19:22Blood from the apartment by the bathtub.
19:24Where in part of Emma's body was discovered it was dismembered.
19:29Even though they'd all moved out by early 2016, investigators were able to access the apartment
19:35where Sarah, Jen, Corey, and Ryan had once lived.
19:38In July 2021, a month before they spoke with Jen and Sarah, authorities visited the apartment
19:45and asked the current residents to leave while they conducted tests throughout the building.
19:48Under close examination, several areas in the bathroom reacted to a chemical reagent indicating
19:55latent blood residue, including the bathroom floor and the cabinet.
19:59No way.
20:01No way she had anything to do with any of that.
20:03She did?
20:04No.
20:05There's no way.
20:06Tell me why.
20:09The Google searches, the deep dives that we did, the stuff that she was into at least,
20:15right?
20:16Painting with blood, like into drinking the blood.
20:18And then the searches that she did on her Android phone.
20:22I don't know.
20:23I don't know about any of the blood stuff.
20:25While this comment about painting with blood will be explained eventually, investigators
20:30won't have the chance to ask Sarah about it just yet, because she immediately throws
20:34a wrench into their plans.
20:36Sarah Lloyd Dragon talked to.
20:39That was my rights, right?
20:41Well, that's your decision.
20:43We don't advise on that.
20:45But all we're asking is for the truth.
20:49I don't know what to say.
20:53The truth, maybe?
20:55I've said what I remember.
20:58And you're telling me that's the truth.
21:00It's what I remember.
21:01This is going to be your only time to talk to me and Megan.
21:05After this, we're not allowed to help.
21:12What happens to me after this?
21:15You're going to be booked in the local county jail here?
21:17I mean, we wouldn't be doing this if we didn't have physical evidence.
21:22That's why I was giving you an opportunity.
21:30Okay.
21:31All right, Sarah.
21:37Thank you.
21:38Once again, the detectives leave Sarah alone.
21:41In contrast, those speaking with Jen lay on the pressure.
21:44This is a fever dream.
21:48I'm sorry?
21:49This is a fever dream.
21:51I know this feels like a nightmare now, so we need you to fill in the other parts of this thing,
21:55because this isn't a nightmare.
21:56Emma's dead.
21:57Emma's dead?
21:58Emma's dead.
21:58Corey's dead?
21:59No.
22:00No, Emma's dead.
22:01Okay.
22:02Did Corey have you guys get rid of his issue?
22:05He didn't like Emma coming up.
22:06Emma's not what he expected.
22:08The selfies didn't show what Corey had wanted.
22:11comes up, Emma's completely shy, reclusive, nothing, what Corey expected.
22:18Corey went away for the weekend for you and Sarah to get rid of his problem.
22:21Corey and Sarah were fighting a lot over it.
22:23Let's just get rid of the problem.
22:27So what happened?
22:28It isn't long before the detectives decide to once again try speaking with Sarah,
22:34and this time, they will hear a stomach-churning confession.
22:39Megan here has something she wants to show you.
22:41to take a look at, okay?
22:44And read over, and we'll get your thoughts on that.
22:49This is from your Google account.
22:53Okay, these are your searches on your Google account that you said you don't have access to.
22:58So flip through these pages.
23:00Yeah, look through all of them for us.
23:01And take a gander at that.
23:02After seeing the evidence within her own search history,
23:05showing that she looked up how to start Ryan's car after it broke down,
23:09Sarah begins to unravel.
23:11What's going to happen to my family?
23:14Well, we'll talk to your family, okay?
23:16And you'll get to talk to your family, okay?
23:20We can work through this.
23:22One thing at a time.
23:24This is the first step.
23:26Okay, look at me.
23:27I'm scared.
23:29Okay, I understand you're scared.
23:32Okay.
23:32I've ever come.
23:34It was a speeding ticket.
23:36You're an honest person, okay?
23:38I don't think you're a bad person at all.
23:40Sarah, let us help you.
23:44Go ahead and start from the beginning, okay?
23:46It was an accident.
23:47Okay.
23:48It was an accident.
23:48Accidents happen every day.
23:49Okay, so what happened?
23:54I was angry.
23:56Okay, I get angry too.
24:00And I knocked him down when he came out of the bathroom.
24:10And I choked him.
24:11And then he didn't know what to do.
24:19I'd never done anything like that.
24:22And then I got scared to know what to do.
24:24We're scared.
24:26I realized I ruined my life.
24:30While the detectives speaking with Sarah have finally made some headway,
24:34those with Jen are hitting roadblock after roadblock.
24:37I'll be honest with you.
24:38I think it's been eating you up.
24:39Is it eating Sarah up?
24:41I mean, people can have differences with people, right?
24:44But to this extent, you know, it would eat somebody up, literally.
24:50I mean, you would be not sleeping well, not functioning well.
24:53You know, it's a lot, right?
24:56No.
24:58Yeah, that's a lot.
25:00Yeah, it is.
25:02But no.
25:05No.
25:06I wasn't aware of that.
25:07I'd been living fine.
25:09Okay, so maybe...
25:11Things were fine.
25:12Things were fine until Emma came along.
25:15And then things were fine.
25:16No, no.
25:17Think...
25:18No, if you want to go back to that, no.
25:20But even...
25:22Even then, no.
25:24But, you know, things have been fine.
25:27There was no...
25:28Murder weighing on us.
25:31While Jen continues denying any knowledge,
25:33Sarah is telling a very different story.
25:35I put him in a chokehold and knocked him down.
25:40Did he pass out?
25:42Were there words exchanged?
25:44He passed out.
25:45Okay.
25:47Took him and I didn't let go.
25:49Mm-hmm.
25:50And then it was too late.
25:53He stopped moving.
25:55He started turning white.
25:59And I couldn't go near him.
26:01Though this is the first time Sarah has shared what happened to Ryan,
26:05this is only one version of the story.
26:08And with each retelling,
26:09the details only grow more and more unsettling.
26:12Sarah claims that Jen heard the commotion from downstairs
26:15and came up to see what had happened.
26:17I had to figure out how to get rid of it.
26:20Mm-hmm.
26:21So what happened?
26:23We cut it off.
26:24We being you and Jen?
26:29Was this when Corey was away with at the hotel?
26:33Okay.
26:34So where did you cut him up at?
26:36Bathtub.
26:37Bathtub?
26:38What did you use?
26:40Some kind of salt.
26:42Where did that come from?
26:45I found it in a shed.
26:48So you used to have your own shed there?
26:50Mm-hmm.
26:50Okay.
26:51Who did the cutting?
26:55Mostly me.
26:57Jen, on the other hand, refuses to make any concessions.
27:01I just don't remember.
27:02Yeah, you do.
27:03No, I don't.
27:04Here's the thing.
27:05You're going to remember these things.
27:07Yeah, I would probably remember if it was murder and a saw.
27:12And where did you cut him at?
27:14Again, this is all stuff I already know.
27:16Okay, I just need to hear it straight from you.
27:18The joints.
27:19The joints?
27:21Can you point to the, I guess, what you mean by joints?
27:23The elbows.
27:24The elbows.
27:25No.
27:26The wrists, ankles.
27:29Mm-hmm.
27:30Knees.
27:32And then up here?
27:33Mm-hmm.
27:34On the neck.
27:34Okay.
27:35Does Jen help cut him up?
27:37Not really.
27:38She wasn't feeling well.
27:41She got kind of sick.
27:43Okay.
27:43One of the officers in Jen's interview steps out of the room to take a call.
27:55And when they return, they have news that will flip Jen's denials upside down.
28:00got an update.
28:02Okay.
28:03Sarah just admitted everything.
28:05And you helped dismember the body.
28:07Uh-huh.
28:07She admitted all of it.
28:08Okay.
28:09So fill us in with what's going on.
28:12Right?
28:12With a car.
28:13You're going to remember everything.
28:14So at this point, Sarah spilling the beans on the whole kit and caboodle.
28:21Okay.
28:21Okay.
28:22This is what we told you before.
28:23We knew where we were at.
28:24So this amnesia that you have, is it going to work?
28:27Because now you're implicated in this as well.
28:29I still have amnesia.
28:31Then fill it in.
28:32Fill it in.
28:32I didn't do that.
28:35I just got the phone call from the analyst that's listening in on the interview.
28:39And she's coming clean, right?
28:40But they're watching it live.
28:41Okay.
28:42She's coming clean.
28:43And you helped dismember the body with her.
28:46No, they're not.
28:46Yeah.
28:46Sarah's not going to be able to do this by herself.
28:49And if she said that, then she's lying.
28:51You just said before, Sarah wouldn't lie.
28:56She's not lying.
28:57I didn't say she wouldn't lie.
28:58So who's lying here?
29:00It's not Sarah.
29:01It is definitely Sarah.
29:03If she said that whole...
29:04Yeah, I would remember that.
29:08Just to the point because you're being implicated now.
29:10So now it's a lie.
29:13No.
29:15We just want to get Emma, his family.
29:17Yes.
29:18Where did you guys go then?
29:20With the body.
29:20All right.
29:21Let's get to this part here.
29:23Where did you go with the body after it's dismembered?
29:26And don't say you don't know.
29:28Because...
29:29I don't have to say I don't know for that because we didn't do that.
29:33Luckily for investigators, Sarah is giving them all the answers.
29:37This, however, is only her first confession.
29:39And she will eventually share another that changes everything.
29:42So, you got him cut up.
29:45Then what happens?
29:46We have to figure out where to put everything.
29:50So where did you say you put his belongings?
29:52Where did those go?
29:53Like his clothes and his...
29:54Um, just in one of the bags.
29:57Okay.
29:58And where did those go?
29:58Uh, we put those in a bin.
30:01Like a dumpster?
30:02No, like a...
30:04Like a Tupperware bin.
30:06Oh, okay.
30:07And where did that go?
30:09In the bag of his car.
30:11Okay.
30:11We were going to drive the car somewhere.
30:15Mm-hmm.
30:16And leave it.
30:20Until the car wouldn't start.
30:22This is the real story about the tow truck.
30:25According to Sarah, she and Jen planned to dispose of Ryan's dismembered body parts,
30:30which they'd loaded into the back of Ryan's own car.
30:33While their plan had been to abandon the car in a deserted location in Illinois
30:37before taking a Greyhound bus back,
30:39Ryan's car refused to start after they stopped at a gas station.
30:43This incident has a horrific new implication.
30:47Ryan's remains were still in the back of the car when the vehicle was towed.
30:51And Sarah and Jen then had to move the Tupperware bin
30:54full of his dismembered body parts in broad daylight into Sarah's car.
30:59They left Ryan's vehicle in the street,
31:01where the police eventually towed it away.
31:03We started driving
31:05and trying to get rid of
31:09little things at a time.
31:11Along the road, or
31:13is there special spots?
31:14In public dumpsters.
31:17Okay.
31:19So did you dispose of
31:20his limbs in different spots?
31:23Okay.
31:24Do you know where those spots are?
31:27We just stopped wherever
31:29or something looked okay.
31:31Or seemed like secluded
31:32or something like that?
31:33I don't know.
31:34Like,
31:35a couple,
31:35a couple
31:35gas stations.
31:39Mostly just,
31:40just public dumpsters.
31:42I don't,
31:42I really don't know.
31:44While Sarah doesn't clarify,
31:46they only disposed of
31:47Ryan's torso
31:47and belongings.
31:49The rest of his limbs and head
31:50had a different,
31:51even more alarming
31:52destination.
31:54Here's the thing.
31:55You have been holding back
31:56this whole time
31:57with all of this stuff
31:58because I don't think
31:59you thought Sarah
32:00was going to be honest
32:01about it,
32:01but she is.
32:02Oh, okay.
32:03So let's do the right thing.
32:04And you wanted to do
32:05the right thing,
32:06right?
32:07So tell us about that.
32:09About what?
32:10About the dismembering it
32:11and then where you went
32:12from there.
32:12I didn't dismember anybody.
32:14You did.
32:15No, I did not.
32:16That's fucking insane.
32:17It's not insane.
32:18That's insane.
32:19This shit happens all the time.
32:20I mean,
32:20you may not want to admit
32:21to doing it, right?
32:22But this stuff happens
32:23all the time.
32:24So where was
32:25Corey during this?
32:26No idea.
32:27No idea.
32:28Still at the hotel,
32:29possibly?
32:29I guess so.
32:30Okay.
32:30Any communication with him?
32:32I shut off my phone.
32:34Okay.
32:35Why did you shut off
32:36your phone?
32:36I was scared.
32:37Okay.
32:38Did he know
32:39something had happened?
32:42I don't think so.
32:44I told him
32:45Ryan just left.
32:48And he didn't
32:48ask any questions.
32:50Despite several attempts
32:51to get Corey
32:52to speak with police,
32:53Corey steadfastly refused.
32:55I have no idea
32:57what you're talking about.
32:59Okay.
32:59So you don't know Ryan?
33:01I don't.
33:01You don't know Ryan?
33:02He didn't live with you at all?
33:04I'm not going to talk to you
33:05without
33:06an attorney present.
33:08We're talking with
33:09Sarah and Jen.
33:11Yeah.
33:11Everybody involved that weekend
33:13we're talking to right now.
33:15Except you right now.
33:16Because right now
33:17you kind of look like
33:17the bad guy
33:18if you don't want to talk to us.
33:19Everybody else wants to talk to us.
33:21That doesn't look good for you.
33:23Yeah.
33:23They told me
33:24that you would say that.
33:25But I...
33:26Who would say that?
33:27My attorney.
33:28Okay.
33:28Corey refuses
33:29to speak any further
33:30and ultimately
33:31never comes in
33:32to discuss Ryan's case
33:33with officers.
33:35Without Corey's help
33:36detectives will have
33:36to put more pressure
33:37on the people
33:38who are talking to them.
33:39Sarah and Jen.
33:41One thing still isn't clear.
33:43A motive.
33:44Why were you so angry
33:45at him?
33:46What happened
33:46that you came up
33:48behind him
33:48and started choking him?
33:50He ruined my life.
33:51Tell me a little bit
33:52about that.
33:54I mean,
33:54I told you
33:55the arguments
33:57Corey and I had.
33:59Mm-hmm.
34:00And
34:00I couldn't make him
34:03see reason.
34:04The officers talking
34:05to Jen also
34:06tried to understand
34:07a motive.
34:08You could do
34:08whatever you could
34:09to make Sarah happy.
34:11So let's get rid of
34:13Em
34:13because that would
34:14make Sarah happy,
34:15right?
34:15To get her out
34:16of that household?
34:17Sure,
34:18but
34:18they agreed to leave.
34:20But she wasn't.
34:21Not willingly.
34:22Not fast enough.
34:25She agreed to leave.
34:28Without meaning to,
34:29Jen points out
34:29a glaring issue
34:30with Sarah's
34:31current confession.
34:32If Ryan had agreed
34:33to leave,
34:34why didn't she
34:35simply let that happen?
34:37This exact question
34:38will be central
34:39to the story
34:39Sarah tells later.
34:41Did Jen know
34:42that this was
34:42going to happen?
34:44No.
34:45But she,
34:46she was there for me.
34:48Sure.
34:49She's your support.
34:49you said that.
34:51That's what support
34:52people do
34:53and pray for you.
34:54I'm worried about
34:55what's going to happen
34:55to her.
34:57I don't want to
34:58understand that.
34:58We understand that.
35:00It's only natural.
35:00And we appreciate you
35:01talking to us openly.
35:05The detectives
35:06have no reason
35:06to assume that
35:07Sarah means anything
35:08more than simply
35:09worrying about Jen.
35:10But her concern
35:11hints at a disastrous
35:12turn of events
35:13soon to come.
35:14So what happened?
35:17You got them.
35:19Something happened
35:20to Emma
35:21and you put them
35:21in the tub
35:22and you guys
35:23did your thing.
35:24Fill us in on that.
35:25Please.
35:27That didn't happen.
35:28She's filling in
35:29the gaps
35:30where you
35:30are not filling
35:32in the gaps
35:33though we know
35:34that you know
35:35what happened,
35:35right?
35:36Because
35:37it's written
35:38all over you.
35:38I mean,
35:39as soon as you get
35:39to a hot point,
35:40you minimize
35:41and you kind of
35:41look down.
35:42It's like a kid
35:43with a parent.
35:43I don't want
35:44to look and
35:44acknowledge
35:45that I'm lying
35:46to you.
35:47Surprise,
35:47I have anxiety.
35:48So when you
35:49started dismembering
35:51it,
35:51right?
35:52So what happened
35:53from there?
35:53Not right.
35:55So Sarah started
35:56with Sarah dismembering
35:57at this point in time.
35:58No.
35:58You were just
35:58holding on.
35:59Thumbs,
36:00you were keeping
36:01a lookout.
36:02No.
36:02What are you doing?
36:02No.
36:03No.
36:04She's not cutting
36:05this body up herself.
36:07That's probably
36:08because she cut
36:08up a body.
36:10She just admitted
36:10to.
36:11No,
36:17she didn't.
36:18She did.
36:18Yes,
36:19she did.
36:19The detectives
36:20attempt a different
36:21approach to get
36:21Jen to talk.
36:23It's more beneficial
36:24to go,
36:25this is where it is.
36:26And it shows
36:26that you're wanting
36:27to make things right.
36:28You want to get
36:29things better.
36:30And you're showing
36:31remorse.
36:32Because the judge
36:33back in our county.
36:34I'm not showing remorse
36:34because I don't know
36:37how to process this.
36:38And I'm not
36:39showing remorse.
36:40there's no remorse
36:41to be had.
36:42So getting rid
36:43of a disposing
36:43of a body,
36:44you shouldn't
36:45show remorse
36:45for that?
36:46Of course you should.
36:47You're still in shock
36:48that Sarah has
36:49come clean
36:50with everything,
36:51right?
36:52There's no way
36:54she did this.
36:55Your world's
36:56crashing down
36:57and we're just
36:58trying to help you
36:59figure a way
37:00to make it
37:00a little softer
37:01of a crash.
37:02Even though Jen
37:03refuses to believe
37:04Sarah admitted
37:05to the death
37:05and dismemberment
37:06of Ryan,
37:07Sarah's own interview
37:08is already
37:09wrapping up.
37:10I just don't know
37:11what to do
37:11because I thought
37:13I had my whole
37:13life ahead of me
37:14and I made
37:16one mistake
37:17and now it's over.
37:22Don't put yourself
37:23short.
37:24I just turned 30
37:25and I feel like
37:26that's it.
37:27One step at a time.
37:29Okay?
37:30One foot in front
37:31of the other
37:31at a time here.
37:32Continuing to show
37:33an unsettling lack
37:34of concern for Ryan,
37:35Sarah then makes
37:36an inquiry.
37:38Is there any
37:38kind of bail
37:39or am I going
37:40to have to stay
37:41there the whole time?
37:42There's not bail
37:42right now
37:43but that's not to say
37:44that there won't be
37:44bail in the future.
37:46Okay?
37:46Just not right
37:47at the present time.
37:49Sarah is informed
37:50that the charges
37:50against her include
37:51tampering with evidence,
37:53grand theft
37:53of a motor vehicle,
37:54abuse of a corpse,
37:56and gross abuse
37:56of a corpse.
37:57Okay, I appreciate
37:58you being honest
37:59with us
37:59because that's
38:01the kind of person
38:02you are.
38:04Thank you, Sarah.
38:05I hope it doesn't...
38:09We'll give you
38:12a few more.
38:12It's okay.
38:13One of the officers
38:14who had been
38:14interviewing Sarah
38:15heads over to
38:16Sarah's mom's house
38:17in order to take
38:17a crack at Jen
38:19and see if he can
38:20break through
38:20the unrelenting denials.
38:22This is where
38:23everything goes
38:24horribly wrong.
38:26Where are they?
38:27Though the video
38:28footage is redacted,
38:29Jen is introduced
38:30to the detective
38:31who spoke with Sarah
38:32and has then read
38:33the Miranda rights.
38:34Am I being arrested?
38:36Okay, well,
38:36we have some things
38:37we need to talk
38:37to you about
38:38that you're not
38:39saying yes or no.
38:40Well, because it
38:41all depends on you.
38:42So we're going
38:43based on physical evidence
38:44and now what Sarah
38:45told us.
38:46That's my job.
38:47I'm doing my job.
38:48They're doing their job.
38:50They...
38:51I'm sorry.
38:52I don't want to
38:53put words in a little.
38:55No, go ahead.
38:56They said that
38:57she said
38:57she did...
39:00She was involved.
39:02Absolutely.
39:02100%
39:03and this
39:05interview is being
39:06recorded
39:07and
39:08I
39:09cannot lie
39:10about that.
39:11Okay.
39:12I trust you.
39:13She absolutely
39:14said she was involved
39:16and she gave details
39:17and
39:17you were involved
39:20in those details.
39:21I mean,
39:21I'm not making
39:22this shit up.
39:24I don't know
39:25how I was involved.
39:26Well,
39:27she told us
39:27how you were involved
39:28but I don't want
39:29to go into
39:30those details
39:30because if you
39:31tell me
39:32and something's
39:32different,
39:33I have to go
39:34back and talk
39:34to her
39:35and try to
39:36iron out
39:36the inconsistencies.
39:38Hearing that
39:38the detective
39:39isn't lying
39:40about Sarah's
39:40confession
39:41seems to be
39:41a turning point
39:42for Jen
39:43but not in
39:44the way
39:44they hope.
39:45After hours
39:59of conversation
40:00the new detective
40:01points out
40:01something that
40:02the others
40:02have failed
40:02to notice.
40:04While speaking
40:04with the officers
40:05a purse
40:06has remained
40:07on Jen's lap.
40:08What's in your purse?
40:15After Jen explains
40:16they quickly
40:17move on
40:17and continue
40:18questioning.
40:19This time
40:19about the evidence
40:20they've uncovered
40:21a choice
40:22that will likely
40:22haunt the detectives
40:24for the rest
40:24of their careers.
40:26And we found
40:26large quantities
40:28of blood
40:28in the trunk
40:29from Emma.
40:32That's a clue
40:33we call
40:33police work.
40:35You know
40:36I'm not trying
40:36to be
40:36I'm not trying
40:37to be facetious
40:38but that's
40:40called a clue
40:40you know
40:42so I mean
40:43when we put
40:44two and two
40:45together
40:45and then
40:46we talk
40:47to Sarah
40:47and it all
40:48kind of
40:49matches up.
40:50You know
40:51what I mean
40:51it all
40:51matches up.
40:52What's going
40:53to happen
40:53to her?
40:54Well I don't
40:55know
40:55it all depends
40:56on what
40:56you tell me.
40:59To my knowledge
40:59she didn't do
41:00anything.
41:01But I'd be
41:01more worried
41:02about yourself
41:02right now.
41:03Why?
41:04Because of
41:05what she's
41:06telling us
41:06and the
41:07physical evidence
41:08and the
41:10social media
41:11search warrants
41:12that we did.
41:13I'm not worried
41:13about myself.
41:14There's a very
41:15good reason
41:16Jen isn't
41:16worried and
41:17once again
41:18the purse
41:19comes up.
41:20You don't have
41:20any like
41:21weapons in
41:21there do
41:21you?
41:23What are you
41:24playing with
41:24in your
41:24purse?
41:27So Jen
41:28like we
41:29talked about
41:29you asked
41:30if you
41:30were under
41:31arrest.
41:32You are
41:32going to be
41:33placed into
41:33custody.
41:37Before this
41:39gentleman he's
41:39a detective
41:40with the
41:40Marion
41:41City of
41:42Marion
41:42Police
41:42Department
41:43you're
41:44going to
41:44be
41:45booked
41:45into
41:45there.
41:46Central 055
41:57055
41:58I need an
42:00ammo of
42:00shots fired.
42:02How long
42:02has our
42:02hand been
42:03in that?
42:08055
42:09I'll
42:10lead you to
42:11respond to
42:11the scene.
42:12Do we have
42:12a victim?
42:13affirmative.
42:16None of
42:16orders right?
42:17We didn't
42:17return anything?
42:19Negative.
42:20No officer
42:20involved.
42:21Just as
42:21officers began
42:22their arrest
42:23Jen pulled a
42:24small handgun
42:25out of the
42:25purse and
42:26fired.
42:27Jen was
42:27pronounced
42:28dead at the
42:28scene from
42:29a single
42:29bullet wound
42:30to the
42:30back of
42:31the head.
42:31While this
42:32is happening
42:32back at the
42:33police station
42:34Sarah is
42:34led away in
42:35handcuffs.
42:36Unbeknownst to
42:37her Jen
42:38has just
42:39died.
42:39Stand up
42:40turn around
42:40months after
42:50her arrest
42:51and Jen's
42:51death Sarah
42:52is brought
42:53in to share
42:53an entirely
42:54new version
42:55of Ryan's
42:55death.
42:56After a few
43:16more pleasantries
43:17the investigators
43:18clarify with
43:19Sarah that her
43:19lawyers agreed
43:20she can speak
43:21with them and
43:22they read her
43:22Miranda rights.
43:24They immediately
43:24begin by discussing
43:25Sarah's new
43:26confession.
43:27In this
43:27discussion she
43:28refers to
43:29Jen by the
43:29name Naira.
43:31On the
43:31morning of
43:31the 26th
43:33Naira started
43:36voicing some
43:39plan about
43:40killing him and
43:41I did not
43:42take her
43:42seriously because
43:43she would
43:44make comments
43:45like that
43:45sometimes.
43:47I still
43:48didn't take
43:48her seriously
43:49but I was
43:49starting to
43:50get worried
43:51because of
43:51how intricate
43:52it was getting
43:53and then
43:55when she
43:55started gathering
43:57tools like
43:59trash bags,
44:00bleach, the
44:01hand saw from
44:02the shed, I
44:04realized she
44:04was serious.
44:06So I tried to
44:08talk her out of
44:08it calmly at
44:11first and then I
44:12started getting a
44:13little hysterical
44:14and she told me
44:17that if I didn't
44:19help that she
44:20was going to do
44:20it anyway and
44:22usually at this
44:23point the
44:23attorneys ask me
44:24well why did
44:25you do it?
44:25Why didn't you
44:26call the police?
44:26Why didn't you
44:27kick her out?
44:30And it was
44:31because I loved
44:32her.
44:32I was so
44:33scared and
44:34horrified but
44:36there wasn't
44:37like I didn't
44:39stop.
44:39I didn't stop
44:40her.
44:40I didn't love
44:41her.
44:42I didn't do that.
44:44She had a rag
44:46that she dipped
44:48in bleach and
44:49she had that
44:51bottle of vinegar
44:52next to her to
44:54add to it when
44:55the time came
44:55because I guess
44:57they had some
44:57kind of chemical
44:58reaction or
44:59at least some
44:59kind of poisonous
45:00gas.
45:01I don't really
45:01know but she
45:02did the research
45:03for it.
45:04Though Sarah
45:04has significantly
45:05shifted the roles
45:06that she and
45:07Jen play in the
45:07planning and
45:08execution of
45:09Ryan's death,
45:10she still tells
45:11detectives that
45:11she jumped on
45:12him when he
45:13came out of the
45:13bathroom before
45:14Jen then held
45:15the rag over
45:16Ryan's mouth.
45:17The changes in
45:18her story only
45:18become more
45:19apparent as the
45:20details grow even
45:21more brutal.
45:24When he started
45:25making these
45:27guttural gasping
45:29noises, Naira
45:31let me get out
45:32from under him
45:33and I curled up
45:34in the office
45:35and cried.
45:37So I stayed
45:37in the office
45:38for a while
45:39until she did
45:41get him in the
45:41bathtub and she
45:43had put a
45:44trash bag
45:45over his head
45:46and severed
45:48it and then
45:49put that
45:51into the
45:52freezer so
45:53that she could
45:53deal with it
45:54later.
45:55Since her
45:55arrest,
45:56investigators have
45:56discovered chilling
45:57evidence about the
45:58fate of Ryan's
45:59decapitated head,
46:01something they'll
46:01bring up shortly.
46:03In this retelling,
46:04rather than Jen
46:05being the one to
46:06dispose of Ryan's
46:07clothing, it was
46:08Sarah who took
46:09on this job.
46:10However, this
46:11doesn't mean she
46:12didn't help with
46:12the dismemberment.
46:13She started to
46:14get intestinal
46:15cramps, so she
46:17went to lie down
46:18and said I had
46:19to take over.
46:21So I put the
46:23hands in one bag,
46:25or no, the
46:26hands and the
46:26feet she told me
46:27to put in a bag
46:29and then she also
46:29put it in the
46:30freezer for later
46:31because she said
46:33those would be the
46:34two big identifying
46:36factors and she
46:37would have to deal
46:37with them separately.
46:40So I removed the
46:42forearms and the
46:44calves at the
46:45joints.
46:46It was slow,
46:48exhausting work
46:49and I did not
46:50work fast enough.
46:53Her original idea
46:55was to cut up
46:57everything into as
46:58small and manageable
46:59pieces as possible
47:00and then dispose of
47:02them that way,
47:03but we didn't have
47:04enough time to do
47:05that so we just
47:06had the head,
47:09hands and feet,
47:10the forearms went
47:11in one bag,
47:12the calves went in
47:12another bag,
47:13and then we just
47:13had to deal with
47:14the torso.
47:15After this, the
47:16story remained the
47:17same.
47:18They loaded Ryan's
47:19dismembered body
47:19into a Tupperware
47:20container and
47:21attempted to use
47:22Ryan's vehicle until
47:23they eventually had
47:24to call a tow truck.
47:26The difference this
47:26time, apparently
47:28Jen was the one
47:29telling Sarah where
47:30to go as they
47:30drove towards
47:31Illinois, stopping
47:32randomly to dispose
47:34of Ryan's remains.
47:35including the area
47:36where Ryan's torso
47:37was eventually
47:38discovered in
47:39Mercer County,
47:40two hours from
47:41Columbus.
47:42The fate of
47:43Ryan's head was
47:44an entirely
47:45different story.
47:46Investigators
47:47eventually searched
47:48the garage at
47:49Sarah's mom's
47:49house where they
47:50found several boxes
47:51filled with what
47:52appeared to be
47:52human remains.
47:54This included a
47:55pot filled with a
47:56thick substance
47:57hidden within
47:57layers of plastic
47:58garbage bags.
48:00After the pot was
48:01emptied, investigators
48:02recovered a human
48:04skull.
48:04In this version
48:05of her story,
48:06Sarah claims it
48:07was Jen who
48:08disposed of the
48:09remaining limbs.
48:10Also because she
48:11didn't know the
48:12best way to dispose
48:13of it yet, so we
48:16had to carry, or
48:19so she put it in
48:20the soup bin, put
48:23that in a bag, or
48:25several bags, put
48:27the pieces of the
48:27hands and feet also
48:28in the bag, and
48:30then kept bagging
48:31it up, and we
48:32put it in the shed
48:33for the time being.
48:34And every time we
48:35moved, it would
48:37have to come with
48:37us.
48:38So that was a
48:40weight that I had
48:41to drag with me
48:42everywhere I went.
48:44For a long time, we
48:45would check the news
48:46constantly.
48:47That's when we
48:48found out that the
48:49torso was discovered.
48:50Um, but as time
48:53went on and we
48:54didn't see any
48:55new news, um, we
48:57started planning for
48:59a future instead.
49:01Um, and she
49:06had, she had, we
49:10had done a, we
49:12made a pact that,
49:13um, should something
49:15go wrong or we
49:16get discovered, that
49:17she was going to
49:18shoot me first, and
49:20she said she would
49:21rather die than
49:22spend her life in
49:23prison.
49:24The arrest came, and
49:26when I said goodbye
49:28to her, I could see
49:30it in her face that
49:32she knew.
49:34This confession
49:35sheds an entirely new
49:37light on the footage
49:37of Jen and Sarah
49:38saying goodbye when
49:40she was arrested.
49:41You want to tell
49:41your wife bye or
49:42anything?
49:42Yeah.
49:47You had mentioned
49:51the, the bleach and
49:53vinegar on the ring.
49:54Mm-hmm.
49:55Okay.
49:55And then mentioned
49:56something different
49:57was put into the
49:57pot?
49:58Uh, lye, some
49:59kind of lime
50:00mixture.
50:01Okay.
50:01And is that
50:02something you
50:02would have had
50:02on hand, or
50:03did she go out
50:03and purchase?
50:04That she did
50:05purchase.
50:06Um, it, the, uh,
50:09the head in the
50:10freezer didn't draw
50:11any attention because
50:13she had packed, like,
50:14vegetables and stuff
50:15in front of it, so
50:16it didn't look like
50:17it was anything.
50:19This is a horrifying
50:20detail.
50:21While Corey was still
50:22living in the house,
50:24Ryan's decapitated
50:25head was in the home,
50:26hidden just out of
50:27sight behind some
50:28frozen vegetables.
50:30The detectives take a
50:31quick break before
50:31returning to clarify a
50:33few more details,
50:34including the comment
50:35investigators initially
50:36made to Jen during
50:37her interview about
50:38Sarah painting with
50:40blood.
50:40So, art for me is, uh,
50:43a coping mechanism.
50:44Um, and I know
50:45that, uh, Randy and
50:47Eric had mentioned
50:48that there were two
50:49pieces in particular
50:50that gave people
50:52red flags.
50:53Um, one was a
50:55painting of, uh, of a
50:58sheep with, um, that
51:01was done in blood, um,
51:02or some of it.
51:03That piece I had done
51:06prior to ever knowing
51:08about Ryan, um, that
51:11was a coping mechanism
51:12for everything that
51:14I'd been through with
51:16Corey.
51:17Sarah posted this
51:18drawing to her
51:18illustration Facebook
51:19page in June 2015,
51:22titling it Sacrificial
51:23Lamb.
51:24Though she created it a
51:26few months before
51:26meeting Ryan, it
51:28eerily depicted the
51:29lamb dismembered and
51:30decapitated.
51:31Um, the other one
51:33was, uh, a mermaid,
51:35um, holding a human
51:37head.
51:37and I know that, uh,
51:39people thought, or at
51:41least I heard that this
51:43was, like, showing, like,
51:45look what I did.
51:46What Sarah doesn't
51:47mention is that she
51:48titled this drawing
51:49Till Death Do Us Part.
51:51Um, but that was also
51:53a coping mechanism, having
51:54to, um, drag that
51:57around with me
51:59everywhere we moved.
52:00During the interview,
52:01Sarah also doodled a
52:02quick drawing of the saw
52:04they used to dismember
52:05Ryan.
52:05The elusive motive
52:07still needs to be
52:08clarified, and so
52:09detectives ask the
52:10haunting question of
52:11why Sarah and Jen
52:12didn't simply let Ryan
52:14leave the apartment as
52:15planned.
52:16The thing she said was
52:18along the lines of
52:19someone like that
52:20doesn't deserve to be
52:22out in the world to
52:23ruin someone else's
52:24life.
52:25So, I think in some
52:27perverse way, it was
52:28her idea that she, I
52:31don't want to go so
52:32far as to say she was
52:33dealing out justice,
52:35but, um, she just
52:38felt very strongly that
52:40he didn't deserve to
52:43be out there.
52:44She said that if you
52:45want to transition, your
52:46goal is to just fit in
52:49to, and that's what she
52:51tried to do.
52:52She, she didn't point
52:54out anything.
52:55She tried to be as
52:56feminine as possible
52:57because that's what she
52:58wanted to be, was a
52:59woman.
52:59And, um, so with
53:03people like Ryan, who
53:07say that they're
53:09transitioning but are
53:10not really making the
53:12effort, really bothered
53:15her.
53:16She more commonly said
53:18things like, he's a
53:20disgusting human being,
53:21or the world would be
53:22better off without him.
53:23So that's, that's why, uh,
53:27the fact that Ryan
53:28wanted to, but still
53:31looked and acted male,
53:34um, just really got
53:35under her skin.
53:36With this allegation in
53:38mind, investigators
53:39question why Sarah
53:40confessed to the crime
53:41initially.
53:42You said you were
53:42trying to protect
53:43Jen.
53:44I guess, why try to
53:45protect her at that
53:46point in time?
53:46Yeah, that's what I
53:47thought about in
53:49hindsight.
53:49Um, it, it would
53:53have devastated me to
53:56have to throw her under
53:58the bus and say, well,
53:59she was the one who
54:00did it.
54:01Um, I guess there
54:03was, there was a
54:04small part of me that
54:06thought if I took the
54:07fall for her, she would
54:08be okay.
54:09Um, but thinking back
54:11now, uh, I should
54:14have known with the
54:15look on her face that
54:16there was no point
54:18trying to protect her.
54:19She was going to do
54:20it anyway with me or
54:21without me.
54:22As the interview
54:23wraps up, Sarah
54:24clarifies why she
54:25wanted to speak with
54:26the investigators again.
54:28I don't know if the
54:28prosecution knows how
54:31much detail, um, about
54:34Naira.
54:35Um, so I'm, I'm
54:39basically just hoping
54:40that at the
54:42sentencing, um,
54:44essentially the same
54:45thing that I told both
54:46of you, just convinced
54:47a little bit, um, we'll
54:49be able to go on the
54:50record so that my side
54:53of the story and what
54:54actually happened will
54:55be out.
54:57In the end, Sarah's
54:58new version of Ryan's
55:00death did little to
55:01change her fate.
55:02In January, 2022, Sarah
55:04Buzzard pled guilty and
55:06appeared in Mercer County
55:07Common Police Court for
55:08sentencing.
55:09She was sentenced to
55:10life in prison with the
55:11possibility of parole after
55:1330 years.
55:14Warren, Ryan's father, had
55:16the last word.
55:18I just know now that, um,
55:20you know, no one can hurt
55:21him anymore and no one can
55:23hurt him now.
55:23енным員 who has
55:27gotten involved in
55:2911 years
55:29as the
55:31vehicle
55:33of
55:35a
55:36the
55:37age
55:37in
55:37moment
55:37if the
55:39state
55:40ի
55:40am
55:41good
55:41good
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55:42you
55:43have
55:44have
55:44been
55:45how
55:46have
55:46you
55:46had
55:47have
55:47been
55:47or
55:48to
55:49know
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