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On Friday's edition of Felger and Mazz, the guys reacted Mike Vrabel's postgame press conference front he Patriots 42-10 defeat at the hands of the NY Giants in the team's final preseason game. The guys guessed which members of the organization that Vrabel was calling rats.
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00:00he's talking about his own organization you know he is he's talking about the patriots yep and guys
00:07in his football department you know some of these rats around here so whoa wow that went from zero
00:13to 60 pretty quick that went from well i'll put it to like this i i don't know i watch forged
00:20in foxborough i i watch all the fine production that the team puts out these guys are clapping
00:25together at the draft room and hugging it out and elbow to elbow and wow i now all of a sudden
00:32you know some of these rats around here so is this going to be in the next episode we have delve
00:38into the rats that he's talking about i mean might as well right jimmy i mean seems like good content
00:42let's go let's see it i mean if we're getting an inside the wiretapping going the whole thing's
00:46supposed to be an inside look behind the scenes look so mike rabel is calling members of his
00:53organization rats i'm looking forward to the next forge in foxborough i wonder if we're gonna
00:57get into that my guess is you won't see it oh so he's asked about that was asked about jalen polk
01:04and the surgery right yeah yes that's right yep okay yeah you know some of these rats around here so
01:10these rats around here nothing to add but i'm curious about the rats around here that's a smart
01:15way to establish a positive workplace as the new guy who like that is okay so again he's gone from zero
01:22to paranoid zero to territorial mighty quick but that puts him in good company and that's where bill
01:28belichick is that's where bill parcells is that's how those guys manage that's how those guys thought
01:34your guy my guy i need my guys you're his guy you're their guy that's your guy no i need my guys
01:41and uh we're gonna run a tight ship here no one's gonna open their yap or they're gonna hear from me
01:46and if the owner keeps his guy and i don't get my guy well there's gonna be problems because i need
01:52my guys not your guys and his guy it's about my guy and we gotta root out all the rats around here
01:57it just wow we're not even out of the preseason and mike rabel's calling members of his organization
02:03members of his front office his football staff rats
02:07okay there you go who's he referring to wolf or mcdaniels gosh mcdaniels okay so let's uh let's
02:18play some media game let's play the media the media game who reported that jalen polk is going to need
02:25surgery and is going to be put on ir i believe it was jordan schultz first yeah right okay jordan
02:30schultz jordan schultz correct me if i'm wrong is he does a lot of reporting but does he do a lot of
02:36stuff around the draft is is he is is he like a draft guy or is he like an injury guy is he the
02:42guy that got into it with um oh is that the one that you know rapaport yeah yeah he's the guy that
02:47got into it with a starbucks yeah yeah i've called security on the guy yeah yeah yeah right
02:52yeah he's like fox sports i always looked at him as just kind of a national guy that me too
02:57that gets like the b-level stories so i guess i'd have to dig deeper into what what his
03:04like what he really breaks what is he because there's guys that really focus on the college
03:09stuff yeah right and are really good with the college kids coming up i'm trying to remember
03:13the guys that are really good with the draft and the draft scouts and like some and then there's
03:17like the shefters who are high level nfl just hardcore nfl level guys ownership sources you know
03:25like that i guess i'd have to dig deeper into jordan schultz i feel like he's always kind of got stuff
03:31that's more west coasty and i've seen him like break news it feels like it's like he's had
03:35niners scoop or like denver stuff so that's why the other day with this that he had this first i was
03:39like that's a little bit surprising but i've always kind of looked at him as kind of a just an overall
03:42national guy well you know here's what i believe i believe that mike vabel who came in with his right
03:48hand man john striker and his chief personnel guy ryan cowden is not calling ryan cowden or
03:56john striker a rat and i believe he trusts those guys for good reason they came with him he's their
04:03guys and i don't believe even if someone like that meaning one of his guys had spilled the beans on
04:11jalen polk that vabel would be calling them a rat because he's their guy he those are his guys that
04:17he brought in right he's got a history you know a relationship with those guys over years so what
04:22did he inherit or what was forced on him what was forced on him was elliot wolf macro josh mcdaniels
04:32and i don't know what else so wouldn't it just be more by deductive reasoning that's who he would
04:38be talking about sure why do you it's josh mcdaniels and not one of the personnel guys and so i will tell
04:43you who who benefited if anyone benefited from the story that jalen polk was getting season ending
04:49surgery and was going to be on ir for the year who benefits from that report well he doesn't look
04:55as much like a failed pick i guess can i answer you yeah whoever drafted him because he wasn't cut
05:02he got hurt he was actually trending and i think the report gave you pull up the jordan schultz report
05:07in fact oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah can you pull up the report because i'm
05:12fussing around online i can't find it i'm not just just just find the original jalen polk report yeah
05:17hold on because i think there's a little spin port put towards it but i would say that whoever
05:22was responsible for drafting jalen polk gets a reprieve if he's hurt and not cut i can read the
05:30tweet to you oh go ahead the 2024 second round pick saw multiple specialists and surgery was determined
05:35to be the best course of action with the goal of being fully healthy for 2026 keep going uh that's
05:41all there was that was in a tweet so it was just a couple of sentences thought i had read something
05:46somewhere else that he was trending in the right direction or there's a little positive
05:49blurb about him maybe that was somewhere else okay either way whether that blurb was there or not
05:54wouldn't you say that instead of us saying the 2024 draft was a total failure it helps whoever
06:02drafted jalen polk to say well polk got hurt in year two and we still don't know correct a little
06:07bit of a reprieve if he's hurt and not cut no question absolutely so add it up uh between
06:14mike vrabel not he's not going to be calling out his guys that he just brought here and oh by the
06:22way they're probably not going to be leaking anything at this juncture either so it's not his
06:28guys it's someone that he inherited and so it's someone that he inherited in the personnel department
06:33that it gets a little bit of a break if one of their key draft picks are hurt instead of suck
06:39or cut and here we are we're not even out of preseason a mike vrabel's hauling off and calling
06:44these guys rats i i look forward to the next forge in foxborough i wonder if they're going to cover
06:49that because i certainly got about 30 minutes of happy horse crap shoved down my throat about how
06:57collaborative and how great these guys get along boy that that sure seems like i don't know if i knew
07:02any better or were just using my head i would look at that forge in foxborough thing and say this is a
07:08complete pile of crap it's a lie because i just heard from the coach in his own words that he's got
07:15rats in his organization so i i would tend to believe that the thing that the team produced was a complete
07:20lie and a put on and a fake propaganda i mean i just i don't know because the two things don't seem
07:26congruous that they're just shoulder to soldier shoulder to shoulder and collaborative and at each
07:32other's side in the team produce thing and then when vrabel gets caught in a real moment after a
07:37game calling people in his organization rats that doesn't seem to jibe call me crazy called them rats
07:43oh i know i know listen i i did to me the the and it's i don't think you've gone off a deep end here
07:49at all i think that this thing i look i'm not even doing anything other than repeating what he said
07:54no when i say going off the deep end people are going to accuse you of making a mountain out of
07:57a molehill and i think in this case there's a story here you can think whatever you want whether it's
08:01a big deal or a small deal i'm just telling you what happened he called members of his organization
08:06rats yep and he's clearly got a hair across his ass for things being leaked and getting out this has
08:12become obvious over the last week on many different fronts i mean losing a player to injury or
08:17surgery though shouldn't be a state secret like this stuff does get out it should i mean fans and
08:21media deserve to know that like so what's the big deal what's he really mad about is what i want to
08:25know i think he's mad about whoever leaked it trying to make themselves look better by making sure
08:31everyone knows the players hurt and doesn't suck and i don't know if it gets in the way of whatever
08:35injury settlement that they're going to do with him ultimately because that's i think the path for
08:39jaylen polk ultimately he's going to be released with an injury settlement i just you know i'm guessing
08:43on that but i've seen it many times before where a guy who is probably out gets hurt and all of a sudden
08:49you owe him the money but you're going to cut him anyway and he if he wants if polk is not really
08:54really hurt and wants to go somewhere else he wants to get out so instead of paying him the full one
08:59two you pay him eight and he gets out you save some money and he gets his freedom like i've just seen
09:03it too often so that's just a guess but does that information getting out get in the way of that i don't
09:09know all i know is i think vrabel wants to control the message like bill like bill belichick did and bill
09:14parcells did and he's not so he gets frustrated even zoe catches the shrapnel you hear this in
09:20the pregame listen to this in the pregame this is the this is the the pregame uh reach around this is
09:28like this is this this is the this is supposed to be three minutes of happy talk and see you later
09:33no this is the pregame hand shake right exactly shake go ahead there stew there was a report this
09:39week that duggar and jennings were available for trade made available is that confirmed is that a true
09:44report or is that how's how's that shaking out i don't know i mean you've reported a lot of
09:48you know many things that may not necessarily have been true so i wouldn't put a whole lot of stock
09:54into the reports that that go around i mean you know that better than anybody oh wow
10:00you've reported a lot of thick thick yes i heard that tishis thick you report a lot of thick give me
10:09that again that is wow that a true report or is that how's how's that shaking out i don't know i
10:15mean you've reported a lot of thick you know many things keep going i don't know i mean you've reported
10:21a lot of thick you know many things that may may not necessarily have been true so i wouldn't put a
10:26whole lot of stock into the reports that that go around i mean you know that better than anybody
10:31yeah okay yeah it's all like yeah yeah yeah yeah i know i know yeah yeah he didn't really even say
10:36thick he said fict he even used the t he is there reported a lot of thick you know oh god and i talked
10:45over the end listen to how zo just takes it like thank you mike give me another whack me across the
10:50face again with another more around i mean you know that better than anybody okay yeah okay yeah it's
10:56yeah we talk a lot of crap mike so uh i don't know if there was a specific thing that zoe said
11:02was that the for cock to the drake may thing is probably what he's busting his balls and the thing
11:06is what uh that he him and his wife got married and they gave all their gifts to like random people
11:11or to charity or something right so zoe fell for some fake ai tick tock thing that said that both
11:18jordan love and drake may gave away their wedding gifts i don't know how ai came up with that
11:22thing but it did i guess i don't know i don't even know how it works but it was a lie it was made up
11:28and zoe went with it he said it on the air he read it off of uh the internet thinking it was real and
11:34he got duped okay so i don't know if that was it or rabel's just lashing out like he did with phil
11:39perry uh earlier in the week on just asking rabel about something steph diggs said himself
11:46in an another interview phil just asked rabel about what was actually said on the record go
11:53ahead that's yesterday uh about how he's not sure about his readiness for week one did you really
11:59believe that phil i mean you're a smart guy i don't know where he went to school it wasn't
12:03ohio state but like do you really believe that do you really believe that phil are you just trying
12:08to bait me into something jesus okay he did say he wasn't sure he'd be ready for week one and
12:12i i don't know uh the context in which he said it but you'd have to help me i mean he's been out
12:19here almost every day okay so you sound like rabel has gone from zero to paranoid like overnight yeah
12:25so i have a theory on this go ahead okay first of all all these things that aren't you know as
12:30is often the case isn't just one thing but if you're asking me does he not trust people in the
12:35organization correct does he think stephan diggs is a pain in the ass correct and why is all this
12:41stuff coming out now when it wasn't coming out before because his offensive line sucks and he
12:47knows it like if you're asking me he's been watching all this has all this happened right
12:53around the minnesota week are you saying he's projecting because he knows they're going to
12:57suck and now i'm just annoyed at everything maybe this is what i think yeah maybe yep yeah maybe
13:02i put it on the offensive line because i think that's the most obvious thing that's come out in
13:06the last week to 10 days two weeks yeah the lashing out has begun in the last two weeks that's
13:11what i think in the last two weeks he's realized we're gonna suck our offensive line blows the kid
13:15can't play left tackle we're screwed and the quarterback might be a hammerhead listen we've seen
13:20a lot i i don't know where you're picking that up in rabel's comments but okay maybe the uh we've seen
13:27a lot of palace what we call the palace q yep and that's it's a mutiny a q okay we've seen a lot of
13:33this it's another patriots bleep storm and infighting and the silos as uh mayo talked about we've seen a lot
13:40of this over the years it really kind of comes with the territory with the parcels belichick
13:44crew because they're so paranoid they are so uh insular they are they are so like chain of command
13:53um obsessed and they're so machiavellian with my guys and your guys and like the parcels belichick
14:04tree like takes it to the nth degree so we've seen a lot of it i have not seen a coach his fourth
14:11month on the job at the podium in front of the logo call members of his organization rats that one
14:20i haven't seen and i don't think i'm overstating that no no other than i'd like to find out where
14:24some of these come from you know some of these rats around here so he's like he's he's a joker and
14:31a ball buster but that's even by his standards is strong oh no no that's real he's angry there's
14:37no question he's angry i was just gonna say i bet your parcels has done something similar
14:41he had that in him and there are there are some personality similarities we've talked about this
14:46between those two i think he's frustrated by a lot of things so look you know parcels and belichick
14:52were pretty good so if this if rabel shares this in common then i okay good i know i know a lot of
14:59horrible coaches who also are paranoid and territorial and insular and rabbit-eared those
15:06guys those guys a lot of those guys were dumb though i know a lot of bad coaches who have those
15:10traits i know a lot of good ones who have them too and do the best that have ever been here
15:13we're sort of like that yeah no no i'm just saying what they did that i wouldn't call rabel dumb
15:18they didn't get they didn't call members of their own organization rats before the first real game
15:24that's that's a new one
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