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00:00One of the networks sent me about rough cut films so I can see them there.
00:24So I don't know whether she's taking...
00:26In school.
00:27She's doing it in school?
00:28She's taking Islamic history in school and it's been a big...
00:32She's a very...
00:33She's a deeply religious child and we have...
00:36And she goes to this wonderful school and she has a lot of Muslims in her school.
00:43Does she?
00:44Every day.
00:45Amazing.
00:46And in her class, you know, she loves it.
00:47And so we talk about it a lot and we talk about the relationships between the Koran and
00:52the Bible and the common history and she's educated her mother and me quite a bit.
00:56Because we think that all the great religions really have the same message.
00:59Yes.
01:00So Prime Minister Bhutto, welcome back to Harvard.
01:02Welcome for your inspiration as a woman of courage and conviction.
01:07And we look forward to learning of your inspiration and your experiences as the leader of Pakistan
01:14and your ongoing work in this regard.
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02:02I would say that if you want to talk in comparative terms, it's always difficult because you
02:08can't give exact analogies, but the Scandinavian form of socialism for Europe, with Asian conditions,
02:15I would like to see that form of socialism in Pakistan.
02:19Opposed Prime Minister of Pakistan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, was hanged at the start of the month
02:24and his body was buried before news of his death could reach his millions of supporters in the country.
02:36The man responsible for the decision was the new military ruler of Pakistan, General Zia.
02:43We started off with an open hand. This is the example I keep on giving.
02:46We started off with an open arm, with an open hand, hand of love and affection for the people of Pakistan.
02:53But then I find that at times the squeeze has to be applied.
02:56So now I'm trying to close the hand gradually to apply the squeeze where it is necessary.
03:02Convicted of the murder of a political opponent, Mr Bhutto was widely viewed as the victim of a judicial murder
03:08set up by the military regime in Pakistan.
03:11His last words as he stood on the scaffold were,
03:13Oh Lord help me for I am innocent.
03:16Are there any dreams that your father gave you for your future?
03:22I know from the time of the time he taught that he thought Nehru was a very good speaker
03:27and he thought that if Nehru's daughter could be in politics and then later on she went on to be Prime Minister
03:33then his daughter was going to come into politics too. It was very much his dream.
03:37How did the daughter feel about it?
03:38I wasn't too keen. I didn't like politics and I'd say no Papa, I'm not going to go into politics and he'd laugh and say we'll see.
03:46It was January 5th, 1977 when we were in Larkana for my father's birthday and my father didn't have to call elections for one more year.
03:54But he told all of us at night that at Al Murtaza that I've decided to call elections early and then on July 5th, 1977
04:03General Zia declared martial law and he took over and I had just been back in Pakistan for five days and I'll never forget that night as we huddled in the Prime Minister's house in my parents' bedroom.
04:16We didn't know whether we were going to live or die like Sheikh Mujib's family which had been slaughtered together.
04:26My father asked me what do you think General Zia will do and fresh out of college, silly and naive, taking people at face value.
04:35I said oh maybe he'll hold elections in three months and you'll win them and he said don't be silly.
04:40He would have never arrested me if he planned to hold elections and see me back as Prime Minister of the country.
04:45He'll never hold an election because he knows I'm going to win those elections.
04:50You never believed that he would actually assassinate your father, did you?
04:55Well, one hopes. I wanted to believe everyone who said to me that my father would live.
05:02My father kept saying that he will kill me.
05:04And then the world leaders were calling for clemency.
05:08People in Pakistan were immolating themselves.
05:11So, of course, I hoped that some of these efforts would bear fruit and that he would live.
05:18But from the first day he felt that Zia would not spare him and he was reconciled to being murdered.
05:27And then when I wanted to hug him goodbye, they didn't even open the prison cell that I should be able to hug him goodbye.
05:36I had to reach out through the prison bars, but they did not open the prison cell.
05:44Anyhow, it was a nightmare.
05:47But how does one say goodbye?
05:51How does one say goodbye?
05:54He said goodbye till we meet again because we believe in the Day of Judgment and we believe that on the Day of Judgment we will all be reunited.
06:05And he was so calm.
06:08He said, don't worry.
06:09He was consoling us.
06:11Instead of us consoling him, he was consoling us.
06:13And he said, don't worry.
06:15My parents will be waiting for me.
06:17My father and my mother and my brothers will be there waiting for me to come.
06:24But this is just a temporal world.
06:26Everybody has to leave it and go on to another world.
06:29And somehow he made the other world sound so comforting that after that I never feared that because I always felt that he would be there waiting.
06:40So I never feared it.
06:44How did you know that it was over?
06:46I think when they came back and gave me the clothes he'd been wearing.
06:52You mean at the very end?
06:53Yeah.
06:53In the morning I couldn't bear it, you know, thinking that there's nothing out his life.
06:57There's nothing out his life.
06:58But I hoped and hoped and hoped that something would happen.
07:02And the finality of it was really the clothes without the man.
07:06It was horrible.
07:08Just I'd seen him in those clothes.
07:11Less than 24 hours earlier, I think it was.
07:14I'd seen this huge, warm, this warm human body.
07:19And now there were just the folded clothes.
07:24And that's when it struck me.
07:26When you look back at those people who did all this to you, who killed your father, who jailed you, what do you feel about them?
07:34I feel pity for them that they were such miserable souls.
07:39And I think they were eaten up by fear.
07:42You must have felt hatred.
07:44And I felt anger at the injustice.
07:46And it was the anger that drove me to battle them.
07:50But when it was all over, the anger went.
07:54My father used to always say, don't be bitter.
07:57I do not want my daughter becoming bitter.
07:59I used to say, how can one not become bitter?
08:02He used to always tell me, if you become bitter at 25, what will happen to you at 50?
08:06You have to free yourself from the confines that they're trying to put around you.
08:13I freed myself.
08:14I'm not mixing up the economic problems.
08:20Economy has its own value.
08:24And faith has its own value.
08:26And in our way of thinking, Islam is not just one part of your life.
08:32It encompasses everything.
08:34Even your economy should be regulated according to Islamic laws.
08:39But some people say that this is impossible to put into action, sir.
08:43That it's, with respect, a pipe dream.
08:45Oh, no, you will see.
08:46I'll call you.
08:47No, no, I'm not.
08:48This is a challenge.
08:49I'll call you to come and witness the organization and distribution of zakat and usher,
08:56which will be effective on 1st of July.
08:59I couldn't help wondering how much of the zakat and usher, if any, would reach the people in most need.
09:05Pakistan hasn't had pre-election since 1977, until Pika Ali Bhutto was re-elected and then ousted in a military pool.
09:14General Zia agreed in August to allow party elections on November the 16th, shortly before he was killed in a plane crash.
09:21Each of the 20 parties will appear as a symbol on the ballot paper.
09:25More than half the country's population is illiterate.
09:27And then we who were not allowed to see my father's face by General Zia, when he died, his whole body was burnt and he did not have a face left for anybody to see.
09:50So everything that you do comes back and it's going to come back in this very life, maybe in the other life too, but I haven't visited the other world yet.
09:58And we got a phone call from somebody and he said, you know, General Zia's plane has disappeared.
10:04He was flying over Bhopur and the plane has disappeared.
10:07So I thought he's flown away to India or Afghanistan.
10:10So I said, yeah, General Zia's plane has disappeared.
10:12Then later on the idea came that no, the plane has not disappeared, the plane has crashed and the man is dead.
10:20And I had this sense of relief, like this huge cloud of burden was lifting from me.
10:25This person who had so dominated our lives for such a long period, caused so much havoc,
10:31that finally this man who had caused so much pain and grief and suffering had gone to meet his maker and to be answerable to him.
10:42She was sworn in as prime minister today by the same president who swore in her father as prime minister 15 years ago.
10:50The 35-year-old Butoh said her message was one of hope, peace, liberty and progress.
10:56And I just want to make the best use of the time I have to give Pakistan a sense of unity and to give its people dignity.
11:05The assassination of Benzir Bhutto took place on December 27th, 2007 in Rualbandi, Pakistan.
11:16Benzir Bhutto, the former prime minister of Pakistan and then leader of the opposition party Pakistan People's Party,
11:24had been campaigning ahead of elections scheduled for January 2008.
11:29Shots were fired at her after a political rally at Liyagotu Belk Elwenayeti in a suicide bomb was detonated immediately following the shooting.
11:41She was declared dead at 1816 local time at Mustashfa Rualbandi Llamo.
11:4823 other people were killed by the bombing.
11:51Bhutto had previously survived a similar attempt on her life, the 2007 Kersaz bombing that killed at least 180 people after her return from exile two months earlier.
12:06Following the event, the Lashnatra Khalintabat al-Bakistaniyeti postponed the general elections by a month, which Bhutto's party won.
12:15Though early reports indicated that she had been hit by shrapnel or the gunshots,
12:23the Bukistanian Interior Ministry initially stated that Bhutto died of a skull fracture sustained when the force of the explosion caused her head to strike the sunroof of the vehicle.
12:35Bhutto's aides rejected this version of the story and argued instead that she suffered two gunshots before the bomb detonated.
12:43The Interior Ministry subsequently backtracked from its previous claim.
12:51In May 2007, Bhutto had asked for additional protection from private security contractors, Blackwater and Armor Group.
13:00An investigation of the assassination by the United Nations stated that,
13:05quote, Ms. Bhutto's assassination could have been prevented if adequate security measures had been taken, unquote.
13:13Arribing ambulances were confronted with two dead victims, literally hundreds of injured, and at least 15 hurt seriously by flying debris.
13:40Once outside, clear of the smoke, broken glass rained from the floors above, people still stuck in offices above, breaking windows to get clean air.
13:49It was lunch hour when hundreds of World Trade Center workers and visitors normally flood the exit, but usually not like this.
13:59This is what's left of floor B2, the blast ripped through the garage, knocking down walls and leaving behind a pile of cinder blocks and rubble.
14:10In most areas, it still looks like a dark, steamy dungeon full of smoke.
14:14There is no power in the sub-basement as firefighters clean up the area.
14:17You can see large holes in what used to be 24-inch concrete slabs.
14:21Even at this late hour, no one is sure if this area is safe.
14:25The lights came back on gradually through the night.
14:28As if the giant towers were waking slowly before the wars of the night.
14:33After returning to Pakistan in February 1993, Yousef went into hiding.
14:39That summer, he allegedly took up a contract to assassinate the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, which was initiated by members of Sipa-e-Sahaba.
14:52The plot failed when Yousef and Abdul-Hakim Murad were interrupted by police outside Bhutto's residence.
15:01Yousef decided to abort the bombing, and it blew up as he was trying to recover the device.
15:06Good Prime Minister.
15:07Good morning.
15:08Good morning.
15:09Thank you very much indeed for being here and for giving us a lift yesterday.
15:12We've got a chair on it.
15:14There are some similarities, but otherwise it's very different.
15:17The difference is that Algeria can't hold an election without the extremists winning.
15:22Whereas in Pakistan, we've had three elections since 1988, and the extremists keep losing.
15:28So the extremists have no popular backing within this country.
15:32In fact, many Pakistanis are outraged by the politics of the extremists, the poison that they
15:38spread, the hatred that they spread.
15:39In Karachi, when different Shia or Sunni mosques were attacked by these extremists, the people
15:47came out and shouted Shia-Sunni unity.
15:49So the people are against what these militants and extremists are doing.
15:53But basically within Pakistan, we didn't have problem with militancy or extremism till we signed the extradition
16:03treaty with Egypt.
16:05So if my government had turned a blind eye to what the militants were doing, they would
16:11have considered Pakistan a safe haven and not started their militant activities here.
16:18Militancy is a totally new factor and the Indian foreign involvement is a new factor.
16:23We did have ethnic groups in parts of Karachi, Karachi is a city of 12 million.
16:29In a small part of Karachi, we did have ethnic groups battling for turf, just as mafias do
16:36for extortion and gambling and such social ills.
16:40But the militants did not take on Pakistan till the extradition treaty with Egypt and the
16:46raids to arrest those people who were suspects in the assassination of President Sadat.
16:51Then we had the extradition of Ramzi Youssef.
16:56And once we had the extradition of Ramzi Youssef, that really was like a red rag to the militants.
17:05The arrest of Ramzi Youssef, perhaps we opened too many fronts because we were working against
17:11the drug barons.
17:12We keep hearing there is no central brain, that there are different cells that keep working.
17:18But I don't buy that.
17:19I don't believe that the World Trade Center and I can be picked out by the same individual
17:25if there isn't a mastermind.
17:27I don't believe that.
17:29I don't believe that.
17:30I already met.
17:31You already met?
17:32This is Bilawal.
17:33Introduce yourself, darling.
17:34I'm putting my ears in oil.
17:35That's good.
17:36I'm putting your ears in oil.
17:37I'm putting your ears in oil.
17:38You're too much.
17:39We're taking a new mask in that.
17:40Izzy, she's bringing you up.
17:41No, not in the car.
17:42Really? He was burning your ears? His brother of yours?
17:44Who was?
17:45He was searching me in doing that and that.
17:48Is he? She was bringing you up.
17:50No, not in the car.
17:53Not in the car.
17:55And better.
17:56And when you walk.
17:58She talks a lot.
18:00So what are you going to do the day you miss school?
18:02I don't know.
18:03Play my dog.
18:04You got a doggy?
18:05What's his or her name?
18:07His.
18:08His.
18:08His.
18:09All right.
18:09What's the ridiculous name?
18:10But our name.
18:11All dogs are mixed together.
18:13No darling, it's a Pekingese.
18:15No darling.
18:16Who told you it's all dogs?
18:17It's not fully Pekingese.
18:19Who told you darling?
18:20He's on the magazine.
18:21What is handy?
18:23Three dogs.
18:23Three dogs.
18:24Three dogs.
18:25These three dogs fits together?
18:27Can I think?
18:29He's not mixed with a cat at all.
18:31No.
18:33Your answer are the cats?
18:34Our cats.
18:35My cats have two more babies.
18:37Oh dear.
18:37They're not fighting.
18:38Boys or girls?
18:40Both are girls.
18:41You have to, every time you start shopping, they run away.
18:43Oh dear.
18:44They're scared.
18:44Yeah.
18:45No, you've already called them for so many days.
18:48Now they're scared.
18:49Okay.
18:50We can miss one day, okay?
18:52Okay, come on.
18:53India has tried to divert world attention by initiating a so-called political process.
19:23by holding sham elections.
19:24But the presence of over 600,000 military and paramilitary forces, the continuation of repressive laws,
19:35the failure to initiate a dialogue with the all parties' Huriv conference, or to release
19:41hundreds of hundreds of activists, shows how hollow even this so-called political process is.
19:47mix of them.
20:10Okay.
20:10Thanks to the light.
20:40Thanks to the light.
21:10It's a huge and emotional moment for Benaji Bhutto as she returns to Pakistan eight years after she left the country because she was facing charges of corruption then. Those charges still stand in one way or the other despite an ordinance reached by the president of Pakistan at the moment.
21:26It's a huge and emotional moment for Benaji Bhutto.
21:33It's a huge and emotional moment for me.
22:03It's a huge and emotional moment for me.
22:10It's a huge and emotional moment for Benaji Bhutto.
22:12It's a huge and emotional moment for Benaji Bhutto.
22:14It's a huge and emotional moment for Benaji Bhutto.
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22:55We are here just for the most of our energy football.
23:25The Kharsaz bombing occurred on October 18th, 2007 in Karachi, Pakistan.
23:35It was an attack on Benazir Bhutto's motorcade.
23:38The bombing occurred two months before she was assassinated.
23:43The streets of Karachi ground to a halt to welcome the return of Benazir Bhutto
23:49after an eight-year self-imposed exile, during which she lived in Dubai and London.
23:56Two explosions occurred in front of the rallying truck
24:00from which she greeted her supporters and party members at approximately 1252 PST.
24:07On the route about halfway from the airport to the tomb of Muhammadun Alioun Jena
24:14for a scheduled rally just after Bhutto's truck had crossed a bridge.
24:19Police vehicles bore the brunt of the blasts, which completely destroyed three police vans
24:25and killed at least 20 policemen in the vehicles.
24:29Conflicting reports indicate that Bhutto, who was not injured in the attack,
24:34was either sitting on top of the truck or had just climbed into the compartment of the truck
24:39at the time of the explosion.
24:42Bhutto was escorted to her residence.
24:46The victims were rushed to local hospitals.
24:50They were rushed to local hospitals,
24:53who were fleeing to get targeted by the number of vehicles.
24:56The victims were rushed to local hospitals,
24:58but they were on the road by the way that they were able to work with them.
25:00They were crushed by the doors,
25:01the victims were poisoned by the house.
25:03The victims were sanctioned by the church in the morning and the officers were justified.
25:05If they were revived by the victims
25:07at the schools, the victims were Mia.
25:10Come on, come on, come on!
25:40Hey, hey, hey!
25:43Hey, hey!
25:54You're not back!
25:56Come on, come on, come on!
25:59Come on!
26:01Come on, come on, come on!
26:04and
26:34In a press conference on October 19th, 2007, Butto said that her security team was unable
26:51to prevent the attack because of the street lights being turned off and called for an
26:56inquiry into why this happened.
26:59On October 20th, authorities released a photograph of the suspect responsible for the suicide
27:05attack.
27:07Al-Qaeda's chief of operations for Pakistan, Faheem Mohammed Ali Maslam, was believed to
27:13be behind the attack.
27:14He was killed in a drone strike in Pakistan along with his lieutenant, Sheikh Ahmed Salim
27:20Swadan, on January 1st, 2009.
27:24Tariq al-Taliban, Pakistan leader, Bwetullah Masuddin, was also implicated in the attack.
27:31He was killed in a drone strike in Pakistan in August 2009.
27:38The bombing resulted in at least 180 deaths and 500 injuries.
27:44After the dead, Remembers of the Hizbushah al-Pakistaniyatou.
27:52The only people who planned the assassination attack on me are not Muslims.
28:04No Muslim can attack a woman.
28:08No Muslim can attack innocent people.
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