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00:00How we doing, Vetters? Patrick here with Vetted. This is a crazy video. You see, Dr. Gary Nolan and
00:07Diana Pasolka got together for an interview together for the very first time ever, as far
00:13as I know. I've never seen an interview with them together, so the fact they got together for an
00:17interview is kind of a big deal. Just, you know, one by themselves is great, but together, this was
00:25a phenomenal conversation, and we learned a lot about this famous trip that Dr. Gary Nolan and
00:32Diana Pasolka took out to the New Mexico desert to a UFO crash site, collected materials, had it
00:40tested, yada yada. This is a huge story that we've all followed, and they revealed a lot of new
00:45information about that story that I've never heard before, and I've followed it very closely. Why?
00:50Because it involves someone that Diana and Gary referred to as Tyler D., but as we all know in
00:58the UFO community, that is Tim Taylor, the NASA, you know, I don't know, NASA head, NASA scientist,
01:06I don't think he's a scientist, I don't know, NASA guy who, you know, famously worked with Chris
01:12Bledsoe and many other people, right? And this story that Tyler, Tim Taylor, took Diana and Gary
01:19Nolan out to the desert, blindfolded to this alleged UFO crash site to collect materials.
01:26That's the subset here, right? So everything we're going to get into, all the clips that I have
01:31today are covering that. New information about that, the materials that Gary recovered, the analysis,
01:37all of the stuff, other stuff that I'd never heard about the situation, because Gary's never talked
01:41about it. Diana's talked about it quite a bit, but Gary has rarely commented on it. So this is a
01:46phenomenal conversation. Now, this all took place on Chris Leto's podcast, The Leto Files. I've had
01:53Chris Leto on Vetter before. He's a great guy. And this was a phenomenal interview that he put
01:58together and he gets right to it. He's just asking him, hey, what happened in the desert? What's going
02:02on with that? So it was great. And at the very, very end, stay with me because Gary Nolan also dropped
02:09a few nuggets about Skywatcher and what they're been doing and what they have upcoming. So stay to
02:16the very end for that. Let's jump into this because we got a lot of clips to break down.
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02:27subscribers before the end of the year. Here's the first one. Again, this is talking about Tim Taylor,
02:33aka Tyler D, taking Diana and Gary Nolan out to a UFO crash site, right? This is all detailed in
02:40American Cosmic, Diana Pasolka's book. So let's get this started. But what happened and what did you
02:47guys find at the New Mexico site? Yeah. So I recorded this in American Cosmic and we went to this site.
02:57We were both blindfolded and Tyler D, who I keep as synonymous, went there with us while he took us
03:05there. And so we did find what looked like, to me, it looked like kind of like a frog skin type
03:13material. And we took that back and Gary analyzed it. I know that he thought it was anomalous at first,
03:23but I actually don't know what his finding is today. But that's what, that's what, from my
03:28perspective, we found. Well, perfect. Well, luckily, we have him right here. What did you find, Gary?
03:34Right. Well, so there were several different pieces. And, you know, it's interesting.
03:43The audience needs to understand that scientists are accustomed, when they talk about their data,
03:49to people always knowing that this is preliminary until I send it out. And just like, for instance,
03:58with the Atacama, when I first looked at the data with the Atacama money, I didn't quite understand
04:03what the sequences meant because it was a lot of junk. And so when I began reporting it to my
04:11colleague, he who shall go unnamed it, it was like, well, like 90% of it doesn't seem to fit
04:22anything. And also, if you're interested in more stuff about Tim Taylor, I did a huge deep dive about
04:28seven months ago, one of the best videos I've ever put together, I'll put a link down below.
04:33So you can go check it out. I highly recommend it. A lot of people watch it. A lot of people said
04:37it's a great video. It's a huge deep dive again, on Tim Taylor, aka Tyler D. All right. So the pieces
04:46that they found, there's, there's just a whole story to this. And we're going to get into this
04:50because Gary's going to explain the whole thing that he just hasn't before spoken about before,
04:55right? So they get these pieces and stuff comes out about the pieces that, you know, maybe they're
05:02alien, right? And some stuff that he had initially told Diana and Diana went and talked about it.
05:07And there's been some updates since. So basically, let's talk a little bit more about these UFO
05:13pieces.
05:14So with the metals and the materials that I recall us bringing back, one were the so-called,
05:23what was it? The alien honeycomb, as it was called at the time. And I mean, it definitely
05:31looked strange. There was another, which was kind of this silvery black covered metal that
05:42was slightly friable. And then there were a few pieces, clear pieces of metal that were,
05:49that looked like aluminum with kind of scratchings and etchings on them, not etchings as if somebody
05:56was writing hieroglyphics, just kind of a pattern with a brown substance on them. And there might've
06:02been one or two more that we found. And in fact, Diana was like a divining rod out there. Every time
06:09she turned around, she was finding something. I was mostly spent my time up on a ridge from where the
06:20object was supposed to have come over and supposedly hit before it landed on the other side of the
06:26little ravine. It wasn't so much a ravine as a long flat area.
06:32Okay. So Gary also is going to get into like how this alleged UFO crash, because I'd never really
06:37heard all the details of what craft they were actually looking at. Right. So there's more details
06:42about that, but he's basically just going to go through the process here of taking the materials
06:47that they got from the crash site through airport security. And guess what? He got stopped.
06:53The, the event of me putting my samples through the metal detector at the airport and the metal
07:01detector shutting down absolutely happened, you know, and as Diana knows, I went white. I, cause I had
07:12samples in there and I was sure that they were going to open the thing up, find this stuff and,
07:17you know, drag me off to the penitentiary somewhere. So when I got back and did some of the measurements,
07:23there looked to be a lot of anomalous isotopes or metals that, uh, that I reported to Diana,
07:31uh, for sure. Uh, and when I looked more closely though, and again, you, so this is the thing that
07:40scientists, scientists like to be right, but good scientists, you know, that very often they're wrong
07:48and when they don't understand something, the best thing to do is actually go find the real expert,
07:52uh, on metals, uh, for instance, or how to use a certain instrument, et cetera. And as many have
08:00remarked on the internet, on Twitter, well, Gary's an immunologist, he's not a metallurgist. So what
08:05right does he have to do anything in, in this area? Well, I have the right to ask the question first
08:09and then to go find the expert to make sure that what I'm doing is right. And that's what I do.
08:14Okay. So the basic situation is Gary gets these materials and then people are wondering why is he the
08:19one studying it? Right. So he goes and gets an expert and finds out, but again, on his initial
08:24kind of looking at it, he kind of told Diana some things here, right? Like, Oh, this, this may be,
08:28you know, not of this world. Right. And then when he digs a little bit further, he finds out this.
08:37And so they said there's the thing called diatomics, uh, and diatomics in mass spectrometry are
08:43the atoms might've been individually separated in the sample, but in the process of,
08:49uh, of activating the sample, turning it into ions. And then it goes into a cloud. Those individual
08:57atoms might come together, uh, during the measurement stick. And then when the, their mass
09:04is measured rather than being individual atom masses, they are the combined atom mass. So they look
09:12bigger than what they are. So if Silicon were together with Silicon, it could be something like 54, which
09:18would make it look like chromium, I think, uh, et cetera. And the only way to discern that is to,
09:25there's a few settings on the machine that you can set that lowers the chance for a diatomic because
09:30it would have double charge to get there. Um, or you better separate the objects or lower the concentration.
09:40So at first it looked like the samples were not of this earth because they had so many
09:53mixtures in there that just didn't seem to be right. Okay. But then when you let, when you start
09:59asking the expert, they said, here's the explanation for why that looks this way. So I didn't figure that
10:05out probably until about three years after, uh, the, um, the article was published, but I wasn't going
10:14to ever take the bait that was being put out there, uh, in the press as to, you know, try to start some
10:22kind of consternation between Diana and I, Diana reported what I told her, uh, and what she reported
10:32was what I thought at the time. And so any mistake was mine. And so, yeah, that had kind of happened
10:37where they were trying to divide Diana and Gary, and they were kind of saying different things.
10:41And I had even covered it in a video, um, myself. So maybe he's even talking about some stuff. I
10:47would say I wasn't trying to start beef with them by, by no means. Um, but there were some, uh,
10:52statements that didn't coincide together. Let's just put it that way. Uh, but now Gary's here,
10:57clearing it up with Diana. This is great. This is all we want to just clear it up.
11:01What's up with those materials. So, um, here's Diana explaining a little bit more from her side of
11:07things. Yes. So you have to understand that this is the time period was, um, a while ago, right. You
11:15know, I was writing this book and I still didn't believe, uh, in the phenomena at all. Uh, I was shocked
11:25that Gary and Tyler believed it because they're so credible and, you know, amazingly intelligent.
11:34Uh, it was beginning to dawn on me that it was real. So as I was out there, uh, doing this field work,
11:42um, I recognized that this was, you know, the, it's not just that you had people like Gary,
11:50how put off and, you know, uh, physicists and, and then other people that were well-placed in
11:56programs like Tyler. It's not just that they were doing this work. It's also the fact that I'd spent
12:03my entire life looking historically at things that were considered aerial phenomena back in the day and
12:10that it fit the pattern. And so there was a pattern match. So all of this and, and that Tyler predicted
12:18that Gary would got, would get stopped in the airport and that this would happen and that everything
12:25happened exactly as he said. Uh, I was very concerned about Gary, you know, I mean, Tyler was,
12:32was completely fine. He knew exactly what was going to happen. He knew Gary was going to be let off and
12:37those, you know, and he described the process. So he was sitting there having a cup of water
12:42and I was, you know, had white knuckles. I also thought something really terrible
12:47would happen to Gary. And I thought, wow, I, I'm glad I gave this stuff to Gary.
12:53Thanks a lot.
12:56I'm just joking. But I do remember at the time I thought, I do not want this stuff. Uh, I don't know
13:02what it is, but I don't want it because first Gary can figure it out,
13:06but secondly, I just had this feeling that, you know, if it was really what Tyler thought it was,
13:14then this would not, I, I just didn't want to have it. Um, so, so there was a bunch of things
13:20going on in my head, uh, to tell you the truth, Chris. Um, so yeah, it was a, uh, it was way out
13:26of my comfort zone. Um, but now looking back, I'm really happy that we did that because, you know,
13:33there were some colleagues of ours who I asked, um, and, you know, first, you know, thinking that
13:39this person would want to do this because I didn't want to go by myself. I wanted to take an academic
13:44with me. And, you know, the colleague was like, Diana, I don't want to do that. They're so far
13:48out of my comfort zone. So I asked Gary and Gary was like, I'll do it tomorrow.
13:52And so that's hilarious, right? That, um, Diana asked other people and Gary was like, I'll go.
14:00Right. Which is great because this turned out to be a phenomenal experience that they were able to
14:06share. And I think actually when all the dust settles, it's still something, these are great
14:10data points, right? Why is Tim Taylor taking them out there? And I, as we move along here,
14:16there was just so many details that just still don't add up about this, but look, Gary isn't done
14:22talking about those materials. He wants to make sure that we all understand exactly what came of
14:28those UFO materials that he collected again from this alleged UFO crash site. But I want to add,
14:34you know, something about the materials analysis. So just because it didn't have a mixture of practically
14:41every element on the table and things in between, um, doesn't mean that I figured out what it is.
14:49Um, I mean, the, the alien honeycomb, uh, Larry Lemke and I, and I would say more Larry than me,
14:56uh, Larry looked into the literature and found examples from that era of aerofoil that exactly matched
15:05the honeycomb with the, even the knot we found is a knot from the early 1900s that actually is a
15:14fisherman's web, but they had adapted that exact structure to lay over the honeycomb structure that
15:22they then poured the resin on and that, uh, helped keep everything in place. Um, but there were still,
15:29there's, I mean, I still have the samples, but just cause I can say that they're made of the elements
15:34that are supposed to be found in this universe. Doesn't mean that they weren't, didn't come from
15:37somewhere else. What was a hundred percent clear was that the debris field was in the middle of
15:43nowhere, filled with old pots and cans, balls, even like, I think we found like an old tomato can. Remember
15:54that big old tomato can? You can still see the, the, the writing on the thing crushed and the tomato can
16:01was from like the 1930s. So they used it as a dumping field, but also mixed in aerospace material
16:10in the middle of nowhere, literally in the middle of nowhere. Uh, and so, you know, you're open. It's
16:17just like, why would you do this? So why was I up on that page? Something that I haven't talked about
16:22publicly yet ever, but I, I, I will hear for the first time. So I think it's interesting because it's
16:27unlikely that I'll have a chance to go back to the site. So, you know, supposedly this thing came
16:32down, uh, and hit the ridge, broke, spilled stuff across the debris field, and then stopped on the
16:38other side. We've already spoken about the debris field being, uh, purposefully, apparently contaminated.
16:45Um, or the object came down in just the wrong place in the previous, in a debris field that somebody
16:50else had pre-created. Um, so across the ridge, there are all, there were all of these cypress trees,
16:58very old cypress trees, probably several hundred years old, because if you know, the reason why we
17:04make wooden fences out of cypress is because they're filled with resin and fungi and bacteria don't decay
17:12them. And that's the reason why they're great, you know, and why there's fewer cypress trees on the
17:17planet than there should be, because humans are busy chopping them all down for the utility.
17:22Um, so there's all these old trees along the ridge, and then exactly where there should have been, based
17:28on where the object supposedly crashed and the trajectory, there's a giant cypress tree that was
17:36still partly alive, but which had been broken over, crushed. I mean, like, obviously some heavy object
17:45had hit this thing and knocked it over and guess which direction it was knocked over in the direction
17:51of the trajectory. So somebody else can go out there or the CIA can go out there tomorrow and dig
17:58the whole thing up and make it look like it wasn't there in the first place. Um, because it was there
18:03when I saw it, uh, there was evidence of a crash, right? In the, in the piece of the, of the, you know,
18:12the cypress tree, which clearly had some stuff starting to grow over it, but it, it didn't look
18:17like it happened last year. It couldn't easily happen long ago. And there was still these,
18:23these pokes of the cypress tree trying to revive itself from that time long ago. So, um, you know,
18:33to me at all that more than anything else said, there was a crash. Um, and then the debris field
18:42suggests that somebody was trying to hide something. Uh, and, and that's about it.
18:46All right. So this next part is where these details start to not add up because Diana is
18:53going to basically say that Tyler Dean, AKA Tim Taylor has been excavating this site for over 40 years.
18:59And he knows the people that owned it, but there's been stories floating around. And I've even been
19:04told on this podcast by people that Tim Taylor found out about that site at the early 2010s at an
19:10experiencer party in Canada. And it was taken there and shown it and then proceeded to then
19:16tell people like Diane and Gary, Hey, I've had, I've been going to this crash site for decades,
19:21uh, when that is allegedly not true at all. So I don't know what the real story is there, but allegedly
19:28Tim Taylor has not been excavating this place for 40 years, but all of this is new information,
19:34right? That Gary's about to get into because allegedly, not allegedly Gary's admitting it
19:39right here. Him and Tim Taylor tried to buy the land where this crash site was.
19:45And so you don't think it could have been like a transport aircraft or something carrying tomato
19:51cans across the country. Well, yeah, I mean, all we have are the, you know, the supposed verbal
20:00testimonies of the anthropologist, the Harvard anthropologist, who was somewhere off in the
20:06distance looking at, um, I guess, an alien, an alien, sorry, Indian burial grounds or something,
20:14or a cave. And then the, uh, the farmer and his son who, uh, showed up the day after. And then the
20:22son supposedly came back later, uh, to see the soldiers cleaning up the area and then burying
20:31some of the pieces that they didn't want to carry back. Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's
20:39those sources are actual sources and most people aren't accustomed to looking at them and, you know,
20:46but, um, those are corroborating sources from people who don't know each other of this. And
20:51what's also interesting is that Tyler had been researching and excavating that site for 40 years.
20:58Wow. 40. He knew the owners. And so, you know, I had a suspicion that if the place had been cleaned up,
21:08there's still a place where perhaps people didn't think to clean up, and I'm not going to mention
21:14that publicly because maybe someday I will go back, um, that, uh, Tyler and I talked about trying to buy
21:23the site, uh, from the original owners. And to that end, that day, we had a late afternoon lunch
21:33with the owner who was an old woman. Uh, gosh, how old was that? How old was she?
21:38Yeah. Yeah. She, yeah. She came in with her dog. It was a really, you know, just a really local place,
21:45you know, with, with a gas station restaurant that had been there for probably since the 40s,
21:50maybe even longer. I don't know. But yeah. So Gary, I was under the impression that it was not, they were homesteading it.
21:57Am I wrong? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They, um, yeah, it's, it's Bureau of Land Management. They had a lease on it.
22:05Um, there was an opportunity perhaps to acquire it because it was more land than they needed.
22:11Uh, and maybe they would sell it cheap, but I don't think, uh, we ever followed through on the acquisition.
22:19So look, a bunch of new information about this particular event that I had never heard from. I covered this before.
22:25And, um, so this was all revelations to me in it. There's still some compute, confusing parts about, especially from Tim Taylor, um, for sure.
22:35Right. But at least some new data points here about this particular event. And it is kind of strange.
22:39I just, all of a sudden come out with this out of nowhere. I don't even know like why they're just so unusual, but I'll take it.
22:45Right. Um, again, Dr. Gary Nolan, Diana Pasolka together in an interview, talking about this particular event just doesn't happen y'all.
22:54So this is super unique and I hope you enjoy those clips. Now, if you remember at the beginning,
22:59I talked about Gary Nolan giving us some updates about Skywatcher. Well, here we go.
23:04What have you learned about the phenomenon in the last two years, Gary?
23:09Uh, first that it's more measurable than I thought it would be.
23:16Um, and that would be say through the efforts that I've been involved with at Skywatcher.
23:22Uh, and that, uh, and some of the materials, purely publicly available materials, not secret stuff that people think I have access to, which I don't.
23:31Uh, so it's, it's more measurable, uh, because we can put together sensor systems, uh, that can see things, but it's harder in that figuring out what the data actually means.
23:49Uh, and coming to the kinds of conclusions that people think scientists should be able to come to is more difficult.
23:57So I, I, I would say it, it, they're both good from the scientific standpoint.
24:03We have access to more materials. We know that we have analyses approaches that can approximate them.
24:09We're beginning to get reproducibility, but as is the case always in science, the more data you get,
24:15often the harder it is to come to conclusions to create a standardized picture.
24:21And what's also interesting is when Gary Nolan is asked, what's the best evidence, right? Of the phenomena that you've come across. He also brings up Skywatcher, but it's also interesting that he can't just answer that outright, you know? Um, but I also get it, you know, put on the spot, you know, what's the best evidence. Oh my God. You know, but it is interesting that you just wouldn't have that like ready to go. Well, this is the best evidence right here. You know, you just always know that it's just there. Why wouldn't you know that? I don't know.
24:48So, you know, I'd probably answer the same way. Uh, but either way, take a look.
24:53What is the best evidence for NHI that you've come across?
24:57Um, so, well, the certainty claim has been misunderstood, but it didn't stop it from going worldwide. You know, Stanford scientists is a hundred percent sure of this X, Y, or Z, which I hadn't actually said that. I, if you come, if you look back at what I said, it was basically, what do you think the chance that it is here?
25:17My, I said, if I were to make a bet, it would be a hundred percent.
25:23Do you believe that extraterrestrial intelligence has visited planet earth?
25:31I think you can go a step further. It hasn't just visited. It's been here a long time and it's still here.
25:36Uh, and it has, uh, uh, basically, um, you know, people talk about the wow signal, uh, looking for extraterrestrial intelligence.
25:46The wow signal is that people see it on an almost regular basis. That's the communication that's already here.
25:51And, and that statement seems so incredible that it is tough to believe, right? People hear that. And maybe a lot of people here hear that and they don't believe it. And so I'm curious if you had to assign a probability to that statement that you believe extraterrestrial intelligence has visited, visited this planet, what probability would you assign?
26:15A hundred percent. At the end of the day, when you're placing a bed on the table on roulette, you're going to place it somewhere and you're a hundred percent certain it's going to be that when you do it. Um, or you go home, uh, having lost all your money. Um, so, oh, there's a beautiful hummingbird right out the window looking at me. Um, so the best evidence.
26:38Um, um, I would say some, well, there's a lot of the best evidence, but stuff that I've been involved with, with Skywatcher, where we make this supposed call and then things show up within a timeframe posted.
26:56And then I've got pictures of things like right next to the helicopter, uh, that showed up, uh, or just coincidence of this on one of our separate events, when objects were seen, and we have pictures of the stuff flying by rapidly.
27:13I mean, cause it's moving so gosh darn fast that all you see is it across perhaps two or three frames of a, of a rapid camera, um, moving and it's not a bug. So I don't care what anybody says.
27:25Um, so it's those kinds of things that convinced me further, uh, that at least not being the government, we can collect that data.
27:37All right. And also Gary Nolan put out this tweet about Skywatcher because you see, um, one of Skywatchers, you know, members, James Fowler, who was heavily, you know, profiled, um, just in the last few months as being the guy behind sort of their technology, their dog whistle technology of calling them out and bring in, you know, UFOs in with their psionic access and capturing all the video and photo data and all that stuff.
28:01So he has left Skywatcher now. Um, and Gary Nolan made a post kind of, um, you know, congratulating him on his new post, but this is where Gary also mentioned, um, some new stuff about Skywatcher. So let's take a look at the post.
28:14I'd like to wish James Fowler much success in his new GovCon endeavor and personally thank him for his efforts to support Skywatcher over these past nine months.
28:23The team at Skywatcher is excited about moving into the next phase of our discovery framework and beginning the analytic process of scientifically evaluating the data collected from our field operations over the past six months.
28:35We have a vast amount of data to parse through and then analyze. I've worked with big data for my last two decades in the biospace space, uh, biosciences space.
28:46We could collect the data in a few days, then spend the next six months analyzing the scientific process will not be rushed.
28:53So please be patient as we are doing this for the good of the community and want to do it the right way.
28:58Once we have a clear understanding of the data significance, it will be compiled into a report and if possible developed into a paper for peer review.
29:07That's the stage at which I would personally like to see the paper put on one of the R sieve servers.
29:14I'm not sure what that says, but regardless, they're trying to get their data peer reviewed.
29:18That's all we ever want. So sounds like they have some stuff that maybe we want to see.
29:23All right. I'll put a link down in the description. If you want to check out the rest of that interview with Diana and Gary Nolan, I highly recommend it.
29:29It's a phenomenal interview. They talk about a lot of different stuff. So I'll put a link down below.
29:33If you want to go check that out. All right, betters. We'll see you in the next one. Remember every day is a gift y'all.
29:38Peace.
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