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00:00and how many things he double-checked versus this fucking wall street journal article it's it you
00:05would have thought that oh the ufo nukes for the wall street journal guy and vice yeah we have more
00:09research yeah yeah absolutely yeah and it's a great it's a great point you were just making
00:14about it the idea that's like hey what's good for the goose is good for the gander if you're gonna
00:18if you're gonna say there's no credible evidence from the on the grush side and this which you
00:22could have a point if it's a lot of it's hearsay if you want to say that cool on the other side
00:25you're gonna debunk it with evidence at least the mcwest guy will be like here's the schematics
00:30of the plane that i think this is here's the this i yeah research you can't just say totally he
00:36provides he provides all that about kirk patrick during which i can't believe they left it in
00:41but they're like sean for patrick tried to reach out to david crush uh after his hearing but crush
00:46uh refused saying that kirk patrick was compromised which i which apparently wasn't even didn't even
00:53happen grush right grush responded to that on some show and he said i did he never reached out
00:57to me or something right wasn't it i forget what it was but there was a whole there was a whole thing
01:01he did like other people with arrow reached out to him and he communicated they were gonna set up a
01:07meeting um the people showed up at whatever place they were gonna meet and grush just didn't show up
01:13and then later emailed and said like i'm just not comfortable with y'all i don't trust y'all
01:17essentially um so that's it that's where that's where it stood i mean i mean based off this it's like
01:23i don't get it yeah exactly you don't but you don't blame him oh i've heard so many um
01:28crazy stories the most legitimate person i've seen talking about this most likely
01:32and and and like he was saying fravery the flavor flavor is i like flavor comes off so
01:38so so straight up but the other thing is with the the the the grush yeah the idea that the weird
01:48thing is this i think what i keep having the back of my head when it comes to kirk patrick
01:51is if he if it is a distant if it is a blue book it is blue book all over again it's like
01:57the balls on them to think like this same playbook is going to work especially now with like the the
02:04the public is so much more sarcastic and read into this stuff right and knows these know these things
02:09coming a mile away so the fact that they're like thinking like we'll just do that that whole blue book
02:13thing again but we'll call it arrow devil's advocate uh we just bombed iraq i mean iran
02:19we're not great with long-term memory in this country you're right but this is but that's not
02:27cloak and dagger this is close it's supposed to be cloak and dagger and it's like hey same exact
02:32playbook same exact down the line thing that you're like and then but what you're what this guy because
02:37he has more credentials you think than the you're the average schmoa like or the guy that did the
02:42report back in the day that literally told the guy he's like i'm just kidding making this thing go
02:45away i forget his name this is from like the the not what report about paul hynek uh no that's
02:52that's uh no jay allen hynek i mean jay allen hynek no no no that was that's his son hynek was blue book
02:57right yeah and the the guy there was a guy that was putting a report together from the history of the
03:03ufo stuff where he was he told multiple people he's like i already made my mind up like he was
03:09like i'm i'm done with this he was going to interview he might have been hynek's boss for
03:13blue book it might have been who you're talking about created the the committee and had hynek do
03:18the the finding out and he was like i'm already done with this i just forget his name this is like
03:22probably yeah 50s like 60s you know whatever it is yeah but the fact that they're still thinking
03:28with that mindset thinking that people the public now especially now you have the internet now you
03:33have the so many people are so connected and there's so much of a trove of information
03:37that they're just gonna be like oh yeah this guy's on the up and up and then people just have all
03:41these questions about kirkpatrick and like and the process well said look at that and we're done
03:48no i'm just kidding we're not we're not we're not gonna put a dot on that yeah yeah i was expecting
03:54sean to go like that
03:55and now a ufo
04:02yeah now you have
04:06um all right what what do you think is the funniest thing about how humans portray aliens
04:13in movies how humans portray aliens in movies you mean or just something peculiar i don't know
04:20what what what's interesting about how they portray like a serious answer it's it's they're all like
04:2699 of them are evil if it's not like a lilo and stitch thing so it all just seems like propaganda
04:32for the military industrial if if steven greer wants to point to asymmetrical disclosure and that
04:38being an actual problem he can look at like every every fucking movie we've produced for the last
04:43hundred years of aliens i think mine has got to be the voices because it's it ranges from it ranges
04:50from everything from like take us to your leader to like like like gay confirmed bachelor from the 60s
04:56like like the one from family guy this is like oh
04:59there's no alien that shows up in one of these one of these things on tv movies it's just like
05:08hey guys what's up i'm an alien you think there's just never like hey what's what's going on how
05:12are you guys up to like they're all they're all rupaul out of dread like when rupaul's a dude that's
05:17like what every single alien is yeah it has to be like a thing like hey you know something to the
05:26voice the greatest alien movies are like alien you know like it's just a monster it's the monster
05:31it's a monster that's the best yeah yeah well what about a rival the rival's great that's it's
05:38monster monsterish that's a monster they're not they're not malicious yeah yeah i would say that's
05:42that would be that's a true alien movie yeah also just like when you think about close encounters and
05:46jacques valet was like the advisor on that and then you watch a rival and you hear about like the whole
05:50people's theory about time and the consciousness thing you're like maybe they have some good thoughts on
05:55what is the actual real truth like the whole time is circle thing is like the the being that if you
06:00saw it you haven't seen it spoiler alert but um but that 15 years ago and that the fact they went
06:06that way with it i'm like maybe they had a team of people on this thing to make it really seem
06:11believable you know that's interesting that's a good movie i would yeah say that that's probably true
06:16yeah yeah that's that's kind of interesting yeah that that whole idea that um you know whether it be
06:22movies or television shows that you know that somehow they're being informed to sort of soft
06:27disclose uh right to the public but if that's the case then why are they making them all scary ass aliens
06:34well that's why they feel when i go what was that one called that what's his name did paul it was
06:38just called paul yeah or family guy or you know what i noticed when when after 2017 i don't know if it
06:46just because it was on my brain because i was got so into it the article and i i dove in but wait
06:51maybe about four years ago maybe a little bit less there's a lot of alien commercials a lot of ufo
06:59theme was yes it was tons of them to the point where i'm like this isn't me just noticing because
07:03i'm into it i'm like this is a lot this theme is a lot and it wasn't even like anything was going on
07:08it was before the congressional hearings not that they would do that but i'm saying it was before
07:13the favorite uh it was like after the article but it was like in in the middle of like all what's
07:18going on and there was tons of like pizza hut or like a snickers commercial with like an alien or
07:23like the thing where the whole the whole uh punchline of the commercial is somebody gets abducted after
07:28you know uh going to home depot whatever it is and it was like but it was a lot like it would be like
07:32a lot of commercials in the day so i'm like not that i'm saying that's a that's a that's a a play as
07:37well but hey you never know this stuff's a play why wouldn't that be you know yeah let me what about
07:42music why don't they ever do it in music why is there no soft disclosure of music like what's the
07:47most famous alien song like i don't know one let's encounter the piano they play to get
07:52yeah isn't there an urban legend too that actual craft showed up during that close encounters uh
07:59one of those it's it's like the x you know like when they say everyone died on the exorcist and then
08:03some people you're like oh his 90 year old mother died and you're like well i mean that could have just
08:09been a strong best win yeah yeah yeah yeah there's there's a ghost in the window in three
08:13men and a baby but the the uh that's a good cut there but no i will say this um i oh i just i just
08:23lost my train of thought but i i think that they the the music disclosure they don't have many alien
08:30songs and but the one that was uh people don't know about is flock of seagulls that whole album
08:36apparently is about like ufos and aliens they have like space age love song if you listen to
08:41the lyrics of that that like that popular flock of seagulls album from like the 80s
08:45a lot of it is based off this this stuff are we saying that that that that the flock of seagulls
08:50could be pleiadian he's tall whites just hanging out i mean his hair was
08:56fucking crazy as well you know what i mean like the british uh music invasion yeah yeah
09:02i saw that jokes punchline go up to that craft actually well they actually went right up well
09:08they do have the bird saw mr spaceman so that's that's good i mean there's baby right yeah bowie
09:14bowie but you're right there's like that isn't dropping like disclosure like nobody's accusing
09:20kanye west to bring a disclosure like that steven spielberg or this guy or that guy you know
09:25he's bringing something they go jesus more yeah they go aliens something yeah but then you have
09:32tom de long like snaking it in blink 182 songs and like uh all right angels and airwaves and yeah
09:37that's fair yeah yeah that's a that's actually uh yeah that's what is real quick with him
09:44it's so funny how these things like peter out like we talked about a little alzander the other day
09:49so he's in it he gets out of it he starts um to the stars it's an endeavor that's supposed to be
09:56media and science based i think he's completely genuine in the effort i guess they ran out of
10:01money he goes back to blink 182 but you don't hear him talking as much as he did he had a lot of stuff
10:07to say while he had the company but now you don't hear from tom de long he said he had all sorts of
10:12meetings what does it just like the the robert bigelow thing where robert bigelow it's almost like are
10:18these guys finding something out and then moving on to something else because they've got the
10:22information they need like bigelow i think he found out something and then he stopped ufos now he's
10:27doing consciousness and after death studies and he's putting all a lot of his money into that i think
10:32what they're realizing is this the consciousness part is a really big piece of this puzzle and i think
10:37that they're like hey i met somebody made me believe that i need to i need to switch my focus you know
10:43yeah that's interesting yeah i don't know who knows but i'm just saying like
10:47like don't mention tom de long he's the reason you know he he he knew about a lot of these guys
10:53i remember seeing that rogan interview do you remember that when he came on rogan and i was
10:56like what the blink what like what the yeah what is he talking about but i was fascinated by it
11:01people were roasting him i remember when that happened and this is way before i was super involved
11:06with or even interested in ufos because i've only been doing vetted like a year and a half you know yeah
11:11so i i was like whoa what the who what what is tom de long talking about like well he met a general in
11:17a diner that told him like we found a body i was like what the this is correct yeah he made a lot
11:22of claims remember i told you he called it he called the gods with a small g he said they've always been
11:26here and it's i think that he found out something on that on that front i think that he he something
11:31made him believe like it's not what i know what it was what 300 million dollars for like 182 tour
11:38they found a uh it's like they found a body and then it was actually travis barker
11:46but it is crazy one of the guys becomes foremost alien expert the other guy becomes a kardashian
11:54yeah i've worked with mark he's like the nicest most normal one out of all but it's like do these
12:00these guys ever do they have anything in common they hang out or talk at all well mark never
12:05mentioned aliens once to me well you know what it is because they i think that's why he like not
12:10for lack of a better phrase i think he alienated himself within the band
12:15by accident strange enough comics unleashed the one comedy show sean hasn't been on
12:19oh they're coming back um but the point being is i'll see clips all the time where you can tell
12:27those guys i don't think it was like a van halen situation but you can tell they're like
12:33so yeah we like yeah it was really great for a while and we kind of ended we stopped blink and then
12:38these guys did their own thing and then um tom called me when my mom died and now we're back
12:43together and i'm like oh they were they hated each other and then they realized let's make some cash
12:47and then he's not as bad as a guy i thought he was that's exactly what it was absence made the
12:51heart grow fonder you know like that kind of you know they were all the small things don't
12:55yeah um but they but yeah but but i think that it's like people dip in and out of this
13:05right and i think there's people that i think that's healthy yeah but not us we've got a patreon
13:11we're not going anywhere yeah yeah but the so yeah so i think all this stuff that's going on now
13:17is like once you get into the weeds you know like like as far as the wsj article and stuff like that
13:23it's like oh you're gonna now that's the pushback that's the pushback without saying it's a pushback
13:27you know so the congressional effort is very public and they want they want as much noise as possible on
13:32it but if you're pushing back with a guy and you're convincing him hey throw this in here throw this
13:36wrench in the works do this you're doing that from under the table you're not doing that from from a
13:40public standpoint you know you're doing it piece by piece so it seems legitimate if that's the case
13:45if there's some sort of disinformation thing going on which i would not be surprised i mean it's
13:51probably the truth is in the middle right just a lot of different answers not one answer um you know
13:56there's supposed to be a hearing here in july probably in the next two three weeks in dallas or dc
14:02and yeah dallas or in uh dc look at me uh dc yeah i mean uh yeah we all know they're mexicans
14:10uh yeah i guess downtown i know that uh it probably already happened depending on like luna
14:21like uh the the secrets task force you know like they did with grush they had uh grushes it'll be
14:27two years this july for gross two years july 2023 wow so they are they saying what is gonna what the
14:35witnesses are gonna be yet or no no because um i think the first hearing they had they we knew
14:41about the witnesses beforehand with grush and all that so the next hearing was with uh what elizondo
14:47and gold my gold and those guys right they kept that to the chest till right before because people
14:52were harassing they were originally going to have other witnesses at that first hearing but they got
14:57harassed so they just decided they'll release the the list you know right before essentially um
15:03um you know right before it happens that's smart because they yeah yeah i heard about the there
15:09was a couple there was two or one that like backed out last minute right the last one yeah well the
15:14last one uh chris mellon couldn't go because he had a trip in san trope or some shit with his wife
15:20um i don't know where but some vacation it's like i can't make it guys we got reservations
15:27and i forget the urgency off it a little bit if they're like sorry i want to i want to get to the truth but
15:32marco island is calling exactly it's like wait a second what you can't make it because you know
15:38what i mean you're going on a cruise we're going to coachella yeah yeah yeah sorry i can't make it i
15:44got springsteen tickets um but the but yeah but that's so but i'm gonna make this what'd you say
15:52oh wait no no oh i think you were saying i think you had an issue with your uh your
15:58thing no no no it's it's it's fine but but you look like one of those like like so chris mellon's
16:04a guy that's a perfect example of that where it's like you are on the but then when you see these
16:08faces over and over again you're like people just get used to these guys and then then what happened
16:13like even the little alzando where it's like they get used to him and then he has a couple of
16:16missteps and there's maybe missing there's there's mistakes made and people go the minute
16:20that mistake made is made people go ah you're you're bullshit the entire time and the chris mellon
16:25a guy like that it's like that guy seems completely on the level to me i don't see i don't see where
16:30that where there's a crack in that you know in that hole i mean i'm being a little little you know
16:35we could just i'm me person i'm just kind of joking about that the vacation no no i know i'm sure
16:39he had real reasons oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you know i didn't i didn't expect us to get disclosure
16:45at that hearing like they were going to wheel out an alien and chris you know i'd love to be there
16:49for that but you know i think he just thought you know these people will be fine it'll be fine you
16:54know this is a long process i have other commitments and blah blah blah and i mean at the
16:59end of the day he he has done so much you know and what is he really going to bring to a hearing
17:07essentially yeah he's not a witness and then he said i mean i i want to get people in these hearings
17:12that have literally touched bodies i say forget craft because that could be easily thought of
17:19you know what i mean yes that's a little more ambiguous i think to me but bodies
17:24like if you if you you get an alien dick in your hands i think you know
17:28brother i think about it all the time you know i'm dreaming about it right now
17:35i want to believe brother i want to believe i wonder what it would look like
17:39too i just i think about all that stuff like
17:47they got way too excited about alien dick i don't know why
17:51alien dick it's gonna be a new porn that's gonna be a new category on uh
17:55porn sites do you think one of these three foot grays has a hog on them that would be pretty sweet
18:00holy j-rod they call them j-rod for a reason though it's j-rod for a reason it's bad big alien dick energy
18:16republicans are still being confused like that's why we're trying to get out of here
18:21you know they have
18:24recall it's like three balls instead of three
18:25three dicks and one ball i don't know
18:32then's jerking over the alien he's like is that a third ball
18:35is that a third ball
18:38do like or it's like a little dick comes out of the big dick that's what i imagine
18:43well that too yeah
18:47speaking of the bodies besides the penises um the there was another thing with grush apparently
18:53whoever the senator that grush is working with on that on that panel or that that committee
18:57uh i forget his name and i just heard i just read this or i was listening to this um he said that he
19:03should concentrate maybe put some effort into the nas go go find out about the nazca mummies oh yeah
19:10because he's like they look similar to what he want something that he saw in a briefing and like a
19:14i don't know if it's a skiff technically i love the word skiff i would i want to be in one of
19:18these skiffs i'm dying to be in a skiff yeah it sounds it sounds like a it sounds like a spin-off
19:25of waffle house or something yeah yeah dan just said you can airbnb them though yeah
19:32just walk you walk in and it's just the key under the mat
19:35you get in there and uh and she's already there he just lives there
19:48he's wearing like pajamas with a big one of those big like uh charles dickens hats and
19:53a candle or nightmare he gives you the old charlie rose he's just in a robe and nothing
19:59sean doesn't think anyone's funnier than danny sheehan and he is the one of
20:03he's the funniest looking ufologist he looks like eric lasall and coming to america but
20:09he's amazing soul glow baby he's got his white version of soul glow
20:14oh my you know it's funny when i went to when i went to contact in the desert
20:18um i get i get in the uber you know from the airport i get to the hotel i'm i'm uh it's a
20:24fucking 115 degrees out there you know just balls hot and i get out i'm literally walking
20:30through with my luggage into the hotel and there's danny sheehan in a full
20:35fucking three-piece suit hair waving in the wind you know doing an interview on camera i was like
20:40what the fuck bro i feel like he didn't have a room he just stayed in the lobby
20:47yes yes patrick if you can stay with
20:51hey vetted you have an extra bed
20:53hey vetted want to vet me i said the keys under this under the mat by the skiff the skiff
21:03yeah and then you get to leave a review you get to leave a review for the skiff you know
21:08it was kind of secure but not as much as i wanted
21:12is the most fascinating stuff to say on this topic and i've listened to probably hours and hours of him
21:16talk oh yeah he looks very unbelievable he does not look like someone you should trust
21:24put him in those pajamas he'll look like he's gonna tell you a bedtime story
21:27he just comes out with a giant book and like a candle
21:30like if he's like it was the night before the congressional hearing
21:36and a creature was stirring
21:39like you know like he knew all these people he knew the cat like they're all just like every time
21:43they're like oh danny even like when they described danny back in the day they're like
21:47that's danny's a real hot dog like i think danny looked like that at 14 years old i don't think
21:52he's changed at all i think he had the same hair
21:56he was born in that three piece
21:58i think he just came out
22:04no my my she honey's
22:06guys danny asked for extra homework again
22:08oh my god god damn it danny
22:17the curls the curls are oily oh man oh no i love danny has an interesting style for sure but
22:24actually that's what i like about him he's just um i don't know he's fast he says things he says the
22:29most bonker bat shit crazy shit i've ever heard but with the utmost confidence yeah i've ever you know
22:36what i mean comedy world i'll say that much he would kill it but the i also i there was that
22:41thing that he was representing somebody who talked about it was on the deli mail but it was the guy
22:47he said he was representing a i don't know i think it was i don't know if it's like a higher up i think
22:51it was like a you're like a infantry guy whatever it is but he said that he was part of some group that
22:56went into one of these craft remember it was like 40 feet and you walk it was the size of a football
23:01status one of the most was it called a tardis yeah it was one of the most captivating things
23:06i've ever read my it was like i was like i buy into it because of that other that that anecdote
23:12that i told you about where this guy that was in the army was telling the story that he thinks they
23:16do have this technology the government has like harnessed it and they can like change space time
23:21it's such a cool idea but i but his story i'm like you've heard that's what we talk about when
23:25there's like the evidence shows up like you know the patterns i've heard stuff like that before
23:29where it manipulates space time that makes a lot of sense to me i i i think he's actually telling
23:33the truth even the stuff when he's talking about taking fauna i think the problem is danny looks
23:38ridiculous and we need to he needs to start wearing white new balances like shitting old man wears
23:43yeah and not look like uh malcolm x in the beginning of the movie you know yeah at your age start mall
23:49walking danny and i'll believe you wake up at six and start walking the mall and i'll believe what you have
23:56to say about it he should have a mic but he should also have a huge thing of metamuse
23:59i don't know at all times and i'll buy him one
24:04and he should be constantly if danny was on the on the alien craft he'd constantly be telling them
24:09can we shut these lights off see how much this costs he would definitely they would bring they
24:14would drop him back up pretty fast like oh my god you know what about his cases
24:20that's hilarious who who would get sent back after being abducted and oh my god personality
24:27i think greer would immediately be they didn't immediately i don't even think the end you know
24:32the engines i mean it would just today so go fuck yourself steven greer
24:36yeah he would he would start telling them how to use their own technology
24:40he would alien explain he would alien he would pleading explain
24:48oh
24:52oh my dude i haven't laughed this hard in a really long time man he's a great audience
25:03yeah yeah oh dude and he's up but i will say this about steven greer man that guy could
25:07me up in a fight every time i see a like bigger frame of that guy i'm like this guy's a monster i
25:12i just want to see you guys like a like a mr jonathan fight from lethal weapon one is
25:17you in the rain on a lawn it would be
25:19it's a good reference shirt on like just just fucking you up you see greer just come up and
25:27light and light his hand on fire you know with the
25:32he's like is there a majestic wealth you want to tell me
25:39steven greer would be terrible with the weapon because that uh
25:42that suicide scene the guy would immediately jump
25:46he'd be like i'm i'm avoiding the man he'd be like buy my app he's like i'm out of here
25:55he would he would get dropped off in the in 20 minutes
25:58your wife or husband left you then steven greer's weekend
26:06in the gift pack you'll get your ring back
26:07who i don't know i actually think the rest of the movie pretty excited i think lou alizondo would
26:15be a good hang if you're an alien right i think he was a bouncer in fucking like miami i think i'm
26:21i'm not surprised at that no he has the body he has the soul patch of many bouncers he looks like
26:26he's gone now but yeah he looks like a guy that wants to tell you you can't come into this place
26:32yes he's like if guy fieri had a cuban filter you know yeah bro bro he is the cuban guy fieri
26:40he's cuban guy fieri he and i think grush would be okay grush would be like i think excited
26:51because lou alizondo is just like this disclosure town disclosure town man dude that's hilarious
26:58closure town instead of flavored town that's the problem they'll never they're never gonna
27:03abduct you of ologists because we won't shut the fuck up if we got abducted we'd be like
27:07oh fuck i mean what do you expect people to say if they get on board a spaceship are you not freaking
27:16out like wanting to touch shit look at shit do shit i mean unless they're sticking something
27:21where it doesn't belong i say i want a tour yeah absolutely immediately and that's why they also
27:27have to like they have to bring you on sleepy so you're not being annoying with all the cool
27:31shit they have on the on the craft you know what that's a good point i was in a room and then
27:36another room it was just these two rooms i can't see the skeeball machines i don't have too many
27:43questions about them so what if originally when they abducted people they did let them they didn't drug
27:50them they just brought them up but then it just got so annoying you know and they were just like dude
27:54every time we bring them up you know yeah let's just drug them and and pretend like we probe them
27:59yes absolutely it's like it's like lost with the others they only show you certain parts of what
28:04they do yeah yeah but they would uh because it's all it is is when you hear about those things like
28:11remember what was the one with the whitley shriever woman he's like there was a room full of kids
28:16well i just i've watched fucking communion twice for this fucking show which we both watched and
28:21there's like a point where they bring in yeah there's like little kids from the great depression or
28:26something is that what it is well they're like from the i think they're from the 50s oh i didn't
28:29realize that i saw it all in like older costumes and stuff like that i don't know man well he's a
28:33crazy guy uh yeah but the i'm trying to who else would do well tom de long that'd be a good hang i
28:40think absolutely yeah he yeah he's like let me play you a song i mean i don't know what you what else
28:47would be that yeah yeah yeah i yeah i think they would all be uh um what's his name bob lazar might
28:54be a tough one well that's interesting let's see a lot of staring a lot of staring you know all right
29:03i haven't been able to do this impression on our podcast i don't think we're gonna get him so
29:07fucking uh you should have uh bob lazar the pimp
29:15hold on let's hear it i gotta hear it uh uh where's my where's my money
29:22where's my money don't make me send george nap
29:27where's my fucking money bitch
29:33uh i'm gonna i'm gonna break your knees
29:37i'm gonna break your knees
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