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00:00:00Hey, everybody. Welcome to Matt Connerton Unleashed AF. Yes, the online-only version
00:00:05that is truly unfiltered, uncensored, and unleashed. And we are here. It is Sunday,
00:00:11August 17, 2025. Jenny is with me, of course. Hello. Greetings.
00:00:16You are not at the news table. That's for the radio. I am not at the news table. I am at my
00:00:19table. You're at your table, yes. My creative space. That's right. That's right. So welcome,
00:00:23everybody. A couple of things we want to talk about. Well, there's a big subject that we're
00:00:28going to get into in a few minutes. But we also, for those who do not know, Jenny, you have this
00:00:34article that has been published on Common Dreams. Yes. My first byline on Common Dreams. So I'm very
00:00:42excited about that. Unfortunately, it was a topic that I didn't ever expect I was going to have to
00:00:49deal with face-to-face. I think we've... Are you there? Yes, there it is. Yeah, I was grabbing the
00:00:54image of the article. Yes, yes. I never thought in my... Honestly, I never thought that I would ever
00:01:01be face-to-face with Nazis like this, doing the whole salute and everything. But yeah,
00:01:07that happened right here in Concord, New Hampshire. And they came to intimidate us. We had planned a
00:01:13protest. I volunteered to help out. I was not one of the main organizers. That organizing group was
00:01:21actually 50-51, a local New Hampshire group here. And they had planned this protest, got permits,
00:01:27the whole nine yards. So we showed up when we were supposed to. And we were starting to set things up
00:01:34for the rally that was supposed to happen like in about an hour or so after we've gotten there.
00:01:40And no sooner did we show up and start unloading the trucks, trucks, cars, did not... These guys march in
00:01:46in their red shirts, which on the back apparently says, forgive me, blood tribe, black pants,
00:01:52red shirts, all of their faces completely covered. Can't see them. Except for the founder guy. He's
00:01:58the only one that didn't have his face covered. That's the bald guy sitting there with the tattoos
00:02:02going down his face. And they started yelling hate with a megaphone. It said something like,
00:02:08you know, the only thing good about New Hampshire is white people. It's the only thing good. And they
00:02:13were saying just nasty, nasty stuff. And we, you know, it was like, we didn't engage them,
00:02:18but obviously we're not going to have this going on. So one of the organizers actually got the idea.
00:02:23She pulled her phone out and she started playing, there's a song about killing Nazis. So she played
00:02:29that. She played, they not like us. That was fun to sing along to. Then she played, I got to do that
00:02:35once before in DC, they played that. And we were like pointing at them. They're not like us,
00:02:39which we did to these guys. You're not like us. We were not afraid of them. Um, and they're just,
00:02:44they're basically there. They're trying to intimidate us. And they're also trying to recruit,
00:02:49you know, they are on a, you know, they want more people in their ranks, more white men in their
00:02:55ranks specifically. They had the whole Nazi flag. And then she also played Martin Luther King. So she
00:03:02put her phone in front of a megaphone and then I had my own amplifier. So I put that in front of the
00:03:07megaphone so we could amplify it even more. And it made it very loud and kind of distorted and just
00:03:13literally drowned them out. Whatever the dude was saying in the megaphone wasn't getting very far
00:03:18because nobody could hear them. We were literally drowning them out, which was excellent. You know,
00:03:22not engaging is important because that's what they want. They want you to engage. They want to
00:03:29incite something. So you can't fall prey to that no matter how angry they make you,
00:03:35no matter what horrendous things they say about our fellow human beings, you know,
00:03:40you can't go there. You just can't. So when they weren't getting obviously heard,
00:03:44they decided to line up because they weren't there for very long, mind you. I'm serious. We really
00:03:49drowned them out. And so they, they formed a line. So they were two by two. And then they started a
00:03:55military march out of the state Capitol, down the path, under the arches, out onto the main street,
00:04:01chanting, saying hateful things, trying to be like all military ask. Although it was funny because
00:04:08when they first started trying to do their little military ask moves, one of them went in the
00:04:11completely opposite direction. Yeah. Which was rather amusing. So they lined up two by two and
00:04:17they're trying to, you know, they're shouting their hate on their photographers, like trying to
00:04:21photographer, you know, camera us as if that's going to be something intimidating. And I just pushed
00:04:26my camera right into his face as he was pushing it into mine. Not like literally, we weren't
00:04:31literally like we kind of stepped, he stepped towards me, I stepped towards him and then he
00:04:36walked off. But people were yelling at him, telling him to get out. None of these people are from here,
00:04:40by the way. They're not from New Hampshire. They came from other places. They literally marched
00:04:46there and did their hateful yelling and crap all the way down main street for a few blocks to where
00:04:52they had parked a U-Haul. But when they got about almost to where the U-Haul was, there was an
00:04:59altercation with a person who does live here. And I saw a video that showed four of them around this
00:05:06one man and one of them punched that man in his back like four times. Another one of them pepper sprayed
00:05:14this man. And then they ran to their little U-Haul and jumped in the back of it. Police were there
00:05:21and drove off. Now I don't know about you, but I am a little flabbergasted that the police let these
00:05:30people climb into a U-Haul and drive off. Because I got, I don't know, call me crazy, but I think if
00:05:37maybe they were a different group, or maybe if their tone was different, the cops would have been like,
00:05:43ah, no, you don't get to drive off with human beings in the back of a U-Haul. That's illegal.
00:05:47But apparently in this instance, no. Maybe now one, now it's possible the cops thinking was,
00:05:54you know what, let's just get them the hell out of here. So there's nothing more going on.
00:05:58Better to get them out of the situation. Maybe that was the case. However, there was an assault.
00:06:04And I want to know why that, why they haven't been accountable for that. I, my understanding is
00:06:09that it is under investigation. I don't know enough more. I don't know enough to say anything
00:06:15more about the legal aspect of it. But as a, as a citizen of New Hampshire, I served two terms in
00:06:22that house. And New Hampshire state house is the oldest state house in the country that still
00:06:26operates in its original chambers. Like our house and Senate still meet in the same exact place they did
00:06:33when the building was built, when the country, before the country was even a country, really,
00:06:38in a sense, you know, when, and there's a huge history with France and everything. It's, it's,
00:06:42there's really a rich, rich history in New Hampshire when it comes to that stuff. And one of the things
00:06:48about New Hampshire is that we pride ourselves on being a place that everybody has a right to be
00:06:54heard. You'll hear that said in the, in the New Hampshire house, if there starts to get too loud
00:06:58or something like that, the chair will say the member has a right to be heard. So do the people
00:07:03and the people have a right to be heard. Um, these guys have a right to free speech. They expressed it.
00:07:08We didn't inhibit that. We have the right of free speech to drown out hate. And that is how we chose
00:07:15to deal with it. And I think it was a very appropriate way. And I absolutely commend everybody.
00:07:21That was, that was an excellent, excellent event. In the end, we had a wonderful protest. We had
00:07:26excellent protest and they didn't achieve their goal. We had to mention, uh, that a picture is
00:07:32courtesy of, uh, Andrew Voorhees, by the way, our friend, Andrew Voorhees, who was recently with us
00:07:37on the, uh, hanging left podcast and on Matt Connerton unleashed as well on the radio version
00:07:42that we do on Saturdays at WMNH and, uh, talking about the picture. And so they used his picture
00:07:48in the article. He is a photojournalist and he, he took some excellent photographs and I've seen other
00:07:54pieces of his work. Um, and he is an excellent photographer, super happy to have met him and
00:08:00now have him among our ranks. Young man with a head on his shoulders. It's very good, very
00:08:04compassionate. And he wants to help make sure that he records what's going on, that nothing is done
00:08:10in the dark. And that's another big thing about New Hampshire. You know, politics shouldn't be in
00:08:15the dark. We're the only, I don't, I don't know if we're the only state, but I know we're rare in the
00:08:20sense that any bill that's introduced in the state of New Hampshire will go all the way through
00:08:24the process and will get a vote by the entire body. There's no such thing as a pocket veto.
00:08:29There's no such thing as a committee kill in that regard. Everything goes to the floor for a vote.
00:08:34So New Hampshire has a unique perspective in that way. And I like it and I'm proud of it.
00:08:40And I'm proud to be a part of it. And I'm proud of the way the people of New Hampshire responded
00:08:44to these fools. And they all have their heads covered in these black socks. Yeah. Like they look
00:08:50like, can you look at these guys? They look like they're trying to rob a bank or something like,
00:08:55and they all have matching shades on. Well, they hide their identities because, you know,
00:09:00they don't, they don't want to get black gloves. Oh, they don't want anybody to know what they really
00:09:04think at work. Why not? I think I, why not? Why, why aren't you proud of your belief? Why do you
00:09:11hide it? That's my question. Well, that feeds into their victimhood though. Um, you know, because
00:09:16you'll, you'll often hear people who have their point of view, they'll, they'll talk about,
00:09:20and even people who don't have their point of view to that extreme, uh, talk about this, you know,
00:09:24there's a lot of, uh, white victimhood. Oh, I, as a white person, I'm so put upon poor me. Oh,
00:09:29there's a lot of that in concert in modern conservatism. So, so it, it feeds into that to
00:09:34them because for them to take it to this extreme, they're the ultimate victims, right? You know,
00:09:38because that's, what's really underneath this is, is a lot of weak, you know, they think they're
00:09:42strong and powerful because they're standing up to, they're standing up against diversity and
00:09:47whatever, but, but they're actually very weak. Uh, these are the, these are the weakest of the
00:09:51weak. Uh, these, these people who hide their identities and spread hate, uh, because it comes
00:09:57from a place of deep, deep insecurity. They feel threatened. They feel threatened, uh, living in a
00:10:02world that is not some sort of ethno state where everyone doesn't look and think and act exactly and
00:10:08speak exactly like them. They feel threatened by that. So this is their way of lashing out. And
00:10:13it's, and it's just, it's weakness, uh, at, at its absolute, it's absolute most pathetic degree.
00:10:19These people are beyond pathetic. But in that same vein, remember some of these people have money
00:10:23behind them and those same people are doing things like doing gene editing to have whiter babies,
00:10:29to have athletic babies. These are things that they are backing a hundred percent. That's something
00:10:34that should concern us. That's something that we should worry about. I believe I worry about
00:10:40Robert Kennedy being in charge of our nation's healthcare in, in Medicare. And he wants to put
00:10:48a data registry together of all the artistic Americans. He believes they should all be in a
00:10:53database. Yeah. This is what we're going to have a database. Does that sound familiar to you?
00:10:57You know what I mean? I mean, I think I always wonder with these people and I'd love to know
00:11:03what their answer would be to me when they do their ancestry and that pie chart comes up and you're a
00:11:09mutt. Cause you know, you're a little Scottish, a little Welsh, maybe a little Italian. Maybe you're
00:11:16a mutt. You're genetically a mutt. Cause your pie has got plenty of color. The vast majority of people,
00:11:23I believe this firmly, the vast majority of people in the United States who are white are most likely
00:11:31not as white as they think that they are. Correct. And the thing that from my perspective,
00:11:36as an Ashkenazi Jew, now go look at some of the people in my family tree and their pie chart on
00:11:43ancestry. It's one color. It's one color. So if you want to get down to genetic purity,
00:11:50right, is it the pie chart? That's one color or is it the pie chart? That's a little purple,
00:11:55a little green, a little blue, a little gray, a little this, a little Spanish, a little that,
00:12:00because that's what their pie charts look like. Well, the other thing too, is nobody really
00:12:04mentions this part, but this is, um, this is another reason why these people are so dumb
00:12:09and they're, they're just shoveling shit against the tide because obviously you can't stop diversity.
00:12:14What you also cannot stop genetically is, you know, sometimes they've even used the phrase like
00:12:20people like, uh, Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingram, for example, have even gone as far as using the
00:12:25phrase, the browning of America, what you can't, you can't stop it. But what you also cannot stop is
00:12:32the, in a broader sense, the browning of the global population. Here's the thing. And this is what
00:12:39these people don't get. There is an inevitability. This is just a simple fact. Humanity as a whole
00:12:46over time, you know, and we won't see it. It'll be long after we're gone. But over time, the human
00:12:53race is going to continue to get darker and darker overall in a broad sense. You can't stop it. The
00:13:00reason being genetically whiteness is a recessive trait. Light skin is a recessive trait. Dark skin
00:13:07is a dominant trait. So that is why when you have, when, when two people have a child, typically,
00:13:14you know, if one of them is white and one of them is black, you know, the child is going to have
00:13:17darker skin. Oh, the white ethno state that these people fantasize about, it's never going to happen.
00:13:23Not, not just because, not just because of diversity, but because just genetically the global
00:13:29population is going to get darker over time. So again, everything that these people put their energy
00:13:35into is so, not only is it harmful and destructive and hateful, it's completely pointless. Point to
00:13:42any of it. It's so bizarre. I'm going to completely disagree with you in an aspect that I believe they
00:13:49do know it. They do see it. And that's exactly what they're trying to stop. Well, no, I agree with
00:13:56you. That is what they're trying to stop. But I don't think they, but I don't, what I'm saying
00:14:00though, is they're going to be able to stop it either. But what I'm saying is they're too dumb
00:14:04to realize you cannot possibly, like I said, shoveling shit against the tide. You can't stop
00:14:11the ocean. You can't stop, uh, you know, the, the genetic inevitability of what is already happening,
00:14:18what has been happening, what will continue to happen. I, they're, they're so, they're so just
00:14:24consumed with their own hate. They can't think logically and realize not only is what they're
00:14:30doing hateful, but it's also completely pointless. The pointlessness of it, they're oblivious to it.
00:14:36And be, you know, and from our perspective, absolutely. But I think that if they would be
00:14:41happy to have a, you know, like we'll talk about that actually. Well, I don't want to get too much
00:14:48into the weeds on that. Cause we're going to talk about some of that stuff a little bit later,
00:14:51but now put the fact that this is what's going on. And now it's in government. Robert Kennedy was
00:14:58very clear with his beliefs that the COVID-19 was bioengineered to kill everybody, but Jewish
00:15:06people and the Chinese. So, yeah. And then he went further to state that vaccine mandates are worse
00:15:15than Anne Frank's persecution. I know. And we, I can give you the citations. We'll, we can, you know,
00:15:21actually the citations are in my article. If you want to go look at it on common dreams,
00:15:26you go to common dreams, you'll see my article there and you can go to the links and you can see
00:15:30the information to back it up that these facts that I'm telling you are real and true. The video
00:15:35of RFK Jr. He's at a dinner or say he's sitting at a table with group people. And he's very clear,
00:15:41very clear in that belief. And these are the people that are now running the country and are in very
00:15:48key position. And we should be very concerned about that. And I'm very concerned about anybody
00:15:56who would say these are the same Nazis. And I'm not calling them Nazis, by the way,
00:16:01because they are Nazis and they are literal Nazis. Like look at the picture, ask them yourselves.
00:16:08They're, they're Nazis.
00:16:09Yeah. They were doing everything. I had somebody attack me for saying that.
00:16:14Oh, of course. I just want to be very clear that they were Nazis.
00:16:17Well, yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, any, anytime you, you post anything like that, there's always going
00:16:21to be people who just, uh, you know, I always, I make fun of them. I say, you know, cause they'll,
00:16:25they'll tell you, Oh no, I, that's a hateful ideology and I don't agree with it. And they're bad
00:16:31people. And then they go, and then they, they see on social media, you know, they'll say, yeah,
00:16:35no, don't, I hate Nazis. They're terrible. Wait a minute. Nazis are being
00:16:39criticized on social media. Oh shit. I got to get on there and defend these Nazis.
00:16:42It's like, what do you know? Oh, I don't agree with them, but, uh, but I don't think they should
00:16:46be criticized for any reason. I got to defend these Nazis. So, you know, we have a president
00:16:50who said they're very fine people. And these are the same people who marched through the streets
00:16:55of Charlottesville chanting Jews will not replace us. Matter of fact, if you watch the video of that,
00:17:02there was a man that will show up in that video and his nickname is the crying Nazi.
00:17:08Oh yeah. Christopher from New Hampshire. Our New Hampshire friends are quite familiar with,
00:17:13uh, yes. Yes. He was from New Hampshire. Um, he's actually in federal prison for something
00:17:19entirely different. I think. Oh, is he? He felt, he fell off my radar. I think he ended up in jail,
00:17:25but don't quote me on that part. But the video literally saying Jews will not replace us.
00:17:30The very fine people that Trump was referring to. And there's the guy. So, you know, yeah,
00:17:38forgive me if I'm a bit concerned that the president of the United States thinks that
00:17:44people who say Jews should not replace us and thinks that I should, you know, not exist in this
00:17:49world are very fine people. And that, um, the secretary of health and human services, um,
00:17:55buys into this. So can you blame me for having some concerns when Nazis start showing up in broad
00:18:03daylight in front of our state house, marching down the street and then assault somebody in broad
00:18:09daylight. And then they climb into a back of a truck, dive off. Um, can you, you know, and then we
00:18:15got now, okay, so add to that pie, this German-esque pie of things that are piling up the fact that we
00:18:24now have an executive order that says that you can take people and put them in jail for being
00:18:30homeless, take people and force them into a mental health facility. And even if they really do need
00:18:35mental health, if there's no bed, then put them in jail and hold them indefinitely. That's a thing
00:18:40now. Can we take anything more out of the German playbook? You know, we're, we're imprisoning people
00:18:46for being homeless. We're talking, we're re-institutionalizing people who have mental
00:18:49health issues rather than actually getting them the healthcare they need. To be fair,
00:18:54criminalizing poverty is not new. It's just being taken to a new extreme, but, but it's not new. I
00:19:00mean, many cities have found ways to punish people for being poor. Our own, our own city here in
00:19:06Manchester, if you get caught being homeless on a park with a tent or looking like you're sleeping
00:19:11there, they can give you a ticket now because, you know, being homeless and isn't obvious. You
00:19:15don't have money bad enough. I'm not going to give you a ticket. Then when you don't pay your ticket,
00:19:20you start racking up stuff for that. So then you can get a bench warrant because you didn't pay
00:19:25your ticket. So now you get arrested the next time you're caught being homeless. And that's right
00:19:30here in our city. That already exists. That already exists right here in our city. So this is a
00:19:34nationwide decree to jail people who are homeless and who have mental health issues and will force
00:19:41them into a institution. I mean, I gotta say something about this that nobody ever brings
00:19:47up, but this is well-documented. I don't know why this is one of those things that nobody ever brings
00:19:52up and I don't know why, but I like to say this whenever the subject comes up for people who don't
00:19:57know, there is a large percentage. I mean, estimates vary, but there is a large percentage
00:20:05of homeless people in this country and wherever you're watching or listening to this in your city
00:20:10or here in Manchester where we are, there's a percentage of homeless people who are veterans.
00:20:15Why do I mention that? Because the Veterans Administration, while it does very well for some
00:20:21people, a lot of people fall through the cracks. A lot of people end up homeless because they have
00:20:28to take pain medication that they get through the VA because of what happened to them during their
00:20:32military service serving our country. And then one day they get cut off and they have to resort to
00:20:37street drugs and it becomes, you know, and they just fall down the hole and then they wind up
00:20:43homeless. Add to that the fact that they've also recently cut veteran services on mental health and
00:20:49they've literally taken mental health clinicians and put them in a telemarketing like room where
00:20:54they're all talking to clients openly in this room, telemarketers do. But I'm, but I'm bringing
00:21:00this up for a very specific reason because there's a particular, look, people who like to bash homeless
00:21:07people who like to make fun of them, who like to talk about them as though they're trash that just
00:21:12needs to be swept away somewhere. They tend to be of a certain political ideology, right? You know,
00:21:18you don't hear liberals talking that way, but the same people who are the cruelest in their
00:21:23condemnation of people who are homeless are typically the same people who like to wrap themselves in the
00:21:30flag, who like to act like they're more patriotic than the rest of us and who love to talk about how
00:21:36important it is to honor and support and take care of veterans. So I want the people who do that.
00:21:45I want the people who think it's cool to kick, hopefully not literally, but figuratively,
00:21:51or perhaps they fantasize about kicking them literally homeless people when they're down,
00:21:56just understand something. You might be talking about a veteran when you do that. So anyone who
00:22:02thinks it's cool to be assholes to homeless people, just understand you might be assholes to people who
00:22:09served their country. And then because we have a long history of discarding people when they leave
00:22:17the military and not giving them the help and support that they need. And that is well documented.
00:22:22You can trace that all the way back to World War I when our veterans were not given things and support
00:22:28and help that they were promised. So just understand if you're a conservative who loves to wrap yourself in
00:22:36the flag and talk about how veterans are so important because the military is so important
00:22:40and we need to honor our veterans. And you would also just as soon spit on a homeless person
00:22:44as even acknowledge their existence or give them any sort of dignity. Understand that you've got a
00:22:50conflict happening there because that might very well be a veteran that you're doing that to.
00:22:57And I will say this every single time this subject comes up because nobody ever says it,
00:23:02and I don't know why, but a lot of homeless people are veterans who fell through the cracks.
00:23:08So, you know, people who just mistreat them, you know, I understand if you don't want to give
00:23:13the money, I don't give them money. Okay. I don't have a lot of extra money to just be given out
00:23:16to people, but, but I would never, I would never disrespect a homeless person. I would never talk
00:23:22down to them. I would never be mean to them and nothing like that. You know, I mean, unless they came at me.
00:23:29Right. They're a human being killed. Number one, they're a human being and you don't know their
00:23:36story. You don't know how they got there. You don't know what happened to them. But part of
00:23:40that too, is also just so you know, conservatives who think it's cool to go around shitting on
00:23:44homeless people, that homeless person that you think is a piece of shit, they might be a veteran
00:23:49who fell through the cracks and we all know veterans who fell through the cracks. So just something to
00:23:54consider. Yeah. And then when I was an EMT, I can tell you, I responded to a number of veterans who
00:23:59needed help and who fell through the cracks and the VA didn't take care of, and they should have
00:24:03never ended up with me because they weren't being taken care of right by the VA. But, but now put
00:24:09that into perspective too, even just locally right here, right? When the rents went crazy, we saw a 50%
00:24:16increase in homelessness of one year, but people's rent went up, not 50 bucks or even a hundred. They went up
00:24:23200, 300, 400, $500 all at once. That's a whole new paycheck. How do you keep your home? Right.
00:24:30And that's why you only got the one or two jobs you're already working. You can't just make the
00:24:34money come out of thin air. You've got to come from somewhere. When it happened with us, I cut my
00:24:39infusions. I started rationing my care, but I was lucky enough to be able to do that. Right. Like I was
00:24:45lucky that I could do that and not end up homeless because I was scared that's where we were going to go.
00:24:50And, and that happened to so many people and it's happening more and more every day because you
00:24:55look at everything that's getting built up, these apartments all across the country. I don't care
00:24:59where you live. Where my parents are, same thing. These apartments that are getting built are so
00:25:04expensive that the average person can't necessarily afford it. And more and more people are ending up
00:25:12homeless every single day. Not because they're lazy, not because they don't have a job and a paycheck
00:25:18because they can't afford to actually live someplace. Well, we need a, by the way, hello
00:25:24to Miriam Banish who joins us online. Hi Miriam. We need a, we need to do. I see Isaac in there too.
00:25:30Whatever it takes, whatever it takes for a national push for, and it's probably never going to happen,
00:25:36but whatever it takes for a tremendous national push for more affordable housing. I say, you know,
00:25:43offer the biggest tax break in the world to anyone who wants to build an apartment complex that is for
00:25:50affordable working class people. Just do it, just do whatever it takes because this is a problem
00:25:57that's been building up and you're right. And homelessness is. Yeah. Homelessness has been on a
00:26:03huge increase across the country. So yeah, whatever you have to do, you know, to fix it, fix it. And you know,
00:26:10the Republican party is never going to do it cause they don't give a shit. And the democratic party is
00:26:14too incompetent to even bother, even bothered to have seen this coming. So they've, they've not done
00:26:19a damn thing about it either. No, what they're doing is actually increasing more the wage gap between
00:26:26the average working family and these, these one percenters, all the tax, all the tax cuts for people
00:26:34who make a ton of money are still in effect. Yeah. But the subsidies that were going to the exchange
00:26:41so people could afford health insurance instead of it being 800, 900, a thousand dollars a month for
00:26:46health insurance, go to the exchange and be able to get it for maybe a hundred dollars because of a
00:26:50subsidy. Those are not getting renewed. That's gone. So next year you might see up to a 50% increase in
00:26:56your health care premium just to have health insurance off the exchange that they're doing
00:27:03to us. The average working, the working people are paying more taxes than these rich fucks ever pay.
00:27:11Yeah, of course. And there's so many of them. They, and Trump even said, I used the loopholes. You
00:27:16know, if it's there, he's going to jump through it years ago. Remember he said that it's, and all
00:27:21they're doing is making that even worse, right? We're not investing in housing. We're not investing
00:27:27in transportation. We're not investing in our own infrastructure. We're building concentration camps.
00:27:32We're spending millions of dollars flying people out of this country who were working hard paying
00:27:38taxes. They literally took an ice cream man out of his truck who was the ice cream man of this
00:27:44community for over 20 some odd years. Didn't have a single solitary run in with the police ever,
00:27:50was here legally, had a working, had permission to work because he paid taxes, had his green card
00:27:56and everything. And that's the thing that I don't, I feel like people don't necessarily grasp the
00:28:02people. Are they getting kicked out of this country? Aren't the worst of the worst. They're not
00:28:06criminals that are on the lam hiding because they're literally taking people away and saying,
00:28:12we're revoking your green card. And they're even talking, we're going to revoke your naturalized
00:28:19citizenship. Right. They're changing the rules in the middle of the game just to get people out
00:28:23because they know that the base loves that. American citizen is not necessarily something
00:28:29you get to keep. You can lose it on a whim of a signature, not a legislative action, not something
00:28:37that went through the system, through Congress, like it's supposed to in a democracy, but by a
00:28:42signature. Well, fortunately it does look like in terms of ending birthright citizenship, it looks like
00:28:47Trump has hit a wall as far as that goes. But hopefully that would make him not a citizen.
00:28:52Parents were immigrants. That would make him not a citizen. He's first generation.
00:28:56Is that true? I didn't know that. Yes. Yes. Yes. His mother, I think, was born in Scotland.
00:29:01Yeah. He was born here, not his parents. Well, the rules wouldn't apply to him anyway,
00:29:06because they, you know, MAGA thinks he was chosen by God.
00:29:10I'm not going to raise the minimum wage. What's it at? Seven, I think, federal minimum dollars.
00:29:14It's been at 725 for as long as I can remember. 725 is the minimum that you can pay somebody.
00:29:18So you can't make enough money to actually rent an apartment. Or if you can rent an apartment,
00:29:23you can't eat. Like nobody can break, nobody can live on 725. And when you allow somebody who makes
00:29:30$25 million a year to pay his worker $7 and then bitch because his, you know, his worker needs food stamps
00:29:38so they could actually have some food and they're on a healthcare subsidy. Why? Because the rich prick
00:29:44won't pay him a livable wage. Yeah. And that, all of this plays in. All of this plays in. I mean,
00:29:50to bring it back to where we were since I know we're going to move on to something else, but,
00:29:55you know, this call to make America great again is absolutely un-American. It's absolutely
00:30:04un-American. And it encourages people like these blood tribe Nazis to show up at capitals like ours
00:30:13and try to intimidate people and to assault somebody down the street and spray somebody with pepper spray.
00:30:19That's what they do. Right. And they're going to win unless all of us stand up. And, you know,
00:30:25that's my call to action. I need you to join me. I can't do this on my own. It's going to take all of us
00:30:32to save our democracy at this point and to make sure that people like these don't win in the long run.
00:30:39Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Oh, let's see. Cyclone DeSenta joins us in the chat room and says,
00:30:44good afternoon. Hashtag Matt and hashtag Jen. We are a singing group, quartet, man band, quintet.
00:30:51I assume they're from Greensboro, North Carolina. I think you might be right.
00:30:55I see Isaac Jackson there as well. Yes. Hi, Isaac. All righty. We just heard about what's going on.
00:31:02This Trump dude, we say. Yes. We've missed our friends in Greensboro. It's been a bit.
00:31:07Well, they're usually there. They're usually there on Saturday mornings during the radio show.
00:31:10We just don't get to their comments, but very good. Very good. So the other, the big thing that
00:31:17we wanted to discuss today, this would be the main event, as we say on the Tough Bumps podcast,
00:31:22which I'm going to be doing with Eric later. Yeah. Doug Wilson, this guy who I didn't even
00:31:28really know about until recently, but apparently he is Pete. You know why? Because you're not a woman.
00:31:33What's that? You know why? Because you're not a woman.
00:31:35Well, Pete Hegseth, who is of course our secretary of defense is a member of Doug Wilson's church. And I
00:31:41guess recently shared out, I should, I should grab the video here of the, we could play the AP story.
00:31:49The video included its pastors arguing women should not have the right to vote.
00:31:52I was very grateful to him for doing that. He didn't just repost it. Like, well, here's an
00:31:57interesting thing that these weird people are doing. He reposted it. And he himself said,
00:32:02all of Christ for all of life, which is the tagline that we use. So now, by the way,
00:32:08if Pete Hegseth had said, uh, this is an interesting thing that these weird people are doing, that would
00:32:11have been appropriate, but he did not say that he seems to be expressing support for, uh, for pastor
00:32:17Wilson. And again, what's that? It's more than that. More than that. Yeah. That statement that he made.
00:32:24Yeah. That's that statement is at is, is not just like something he's pulling out of thin air.
00:32:30That statement refers to the belief that first we get the Christian nation. Then we get the
00:32:36Christian constant. Then we go for the world. They want a Christian world. The ultimate end game
00:32:41is to convert everybody. Right. A little more. I'm not making that up.
00:32:45Posting it and saying amen at some level. Pastor Doug Wilson, the network's co-founder is no stranger
00:32:51to controversy with his church's embrace of patriarchy and Christian nationalism. They are
00:32:55a network of over 130 churches and have recently opened a new church in Washington, DC with Hegseth
00:33:01attending its first Sunday service. This is the first time we've had connections with as many people
00:33:06and national government as we do now. But this is not, um, this is not an ecclesiastical lobbying
00:33:14effort where we're trying to meet important people. We're trying to give some of these people an
00:33:20opportunity to meet with God. I would like a chance to meet with God. I mean, I have questions. Like
00:33:25I've always wondered, what does he look like? And does he have a long white beard? My wife votes,
00:33:29my daughters vote. If, if people rush to conclusions from what they heard on the CNN piece, that's a,
00:33:36that's a sad thing. At the same time, I, I think that the 19th amendment was a bad idea and I had
00:33:43no problem with how pastor Jared answered the question. I would support that. Our issue is not,
00:33:49is not a problem with the enfranchisement of women. Our problem is with the disenfranchisement
00:33:56of the household. Now, just to clarify what he means, his position and the position of the church is
00:34:01that there should be one vote per household. And of course the person casting the vote would be the
00:34:06head of the household. And I think we all know when we refer to the head of the household, we know
00:34:11who pastor Wilson has in mind, right? Men. That's right. Not too clear. Someone prefer the US follow
00:34:18his churches. Church elections, households vote, and that includes some women as heads of households.
00:34:23But ordinarily, when you have a conservative Christian family, the head of the household is the
00:34:29husband and father, and he's the one who casts the vote, but he's voting on behalf of the whole
00:34:34household. The issue is not keeping females from voting. The issue for us is we want households
00:34:40to have a say. There is a little bit of a loophole in there for him because, you know, because I think
00:34:46in a separate piece in a longer video, or it might even, even been because we did watch the piece on
00:34:51CNN, which by the way, Doug Wilson did acknowledge that he thought it was fair. He did that it was fair.
00:34:58Yeah. It was fair and balanced because they did present all sides. But, but the loophole being,
00:35:04see, he can say, he can say, you're not saying we oppose women voting because he sort of acknowledges
00:35:13that not every household, you know, so for example, if you have a household where there's a mom,
00:35:17but the father has passed away, for example. That's what he said. If you're a widow, you get to vote.
00:35:22So that's why he gets to say that. That's why he can say, well, we're not opposed to women voting.
00:35:28What's that?
00:35:29There's no divorce in that kind of Christianity.
00:35:31Well, that's true. But if somebody died, like if you watch the full CNN and they also have an
00:35:37extended version. If you go on YouTube, there's the full 30 minute version that has all, but
00:35:42they interview a couple of the heads of his church and they reiterate the belief that men are in charge,
00:35:49women are subservient. And if that's not enough for you to believe it, they then go to a couple
00:35:54and the woman openly says, I am subservient to him, that she's submissive. She used the word
00:36:00submissive, that she's submissive to him. And that is part of the control and this crazy Christianity,
00:36:08right? Where as a woman, you are less than the man. You're not as smart as the man. God didn't build
00:36:17you to carry this load, this weight, let your husband handle those, the household difficulty
00:36:26things, you know, keep the house, you raise the kid, but you don't make decisions. You, you know,
00:36:33you can have an opinion, but the ultimate decision is made by the man. Right.
00:36:38As a woman, I was once married for a very long time and in, and there was a time in my life when
00:36:48I had converted to Christianity and believed in a very strict Christianity. In a strict version of
00:36:55it, we should just be clear, just to be fair. I don't think a majority of Christians actually
00:37:01would follow. Right. Doug Wilson is saying, but Pete said, but, but a member, a high ranking member
00:37:06of our government does. And that's why we're talking about this. Exactly. Yeah. Because I want
00:37:10people like, this is, it's, it's a, it's like getting infected with something. Right. And you, as a
00:37:18woman, you firmly believe that you're doing what God is telling you to do and you want to go to heaven.
00:37:21Right. So I believed that if I wasn't a godly woman, I wouldn't get to see the people that I loved
00:37:26again. I was very attached to that idea of being able to see the people that I loved who died. And
00:37:32the idea of that not being real was so devastating to me that, um, the first time somebody really
00:37:39challenged me on it, I collapsed and just bawled my eyes out. And it was like, but if you're right,
00:37:45there's nothing. If I'm right, I get to be with the people I love. Yeah. So any suffering that I am
00:37:52enduring in this world is required of me to get the reward of going to heaven. So whenever my
00:37:59husband had done or said, or made certain rules or whatever that I followed, that's where it was
00:38:07coming from. And it was a very, very strong, I was a Sunday school teacher. We went to church every
00:38:14Sunday. Yeah. I read the Bible. I had a woman's study guides. I can remember going to, I would volunteer
00:38:22for at the Christian camps as, cause I was an EMT. I would volunteer to be part of their medical staff
00:38:27and I would bawl my eyes out over tearing over these books. Why don't I get it? Like every,
00:38:32why can't I feel it? Like everybody else? Yeah. Why is it? You wanted to believe, but it's hard
00:38:36yourself to believe. Why can't I feel what everybody else does? Why? And I, you know, it's because
00:38:42there's something wrong with me. Right. And that's powerful. That's the most powerful thing in the
00:38:47world. When you think about it, like if you upset this God, then you're going to burn in
00:38:53everlasting hell. You'll never see the people you love again. And I couldn't live with that at the
00:38:59time. Right. And I firmly believed that I may not know and understand why these things are written,
00:39:04but God has a reason. Right. Right. Well they have, you know, the Lord works in mysterious ways,
00:39:10which is kind of a catch all explanation for everything. Right. This belief system exists in,
00:39:15in different ways. But now this situation has catapulted it. This came out of a belief in like
00:39:22Calvinism and they, and remember now Doug created this shit. He's the founder of this. He, this is
00:39:28his own faith that he created within this church. And now he's got other locations and they just opened
00:39:36one in DC to have one near the Capitol. And Hegseth has already gone there to go to church.
00:39:42Hegseth is all in with that church. Yeah. And, and he's, and Doug is very clear that the 19th
00:39:49amendment, which is the woman's right to vote should be repealed. Women should not have the
00:39:55right to vote. He says that it was a mistake to have ever given the woman the right to vote. So put
00:40:02the religion, those beliefs, and now put this stuff stacking up, right? We're going to get rid of
00:40:07women's rights. Men are going to rule the world. Only men in leadership. That's a biggie too.
00:40:12Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. And Hegseth is very big on that. He doesn't, you know, you look, they don't,
00:40:17none of them have women in leadership because women are too weak, too stupid, fill in the blank.
00:40:23You're not as smart as a man. You can't do it. That's their opinion.
00:40:28We should, for anyone who, if you're not familiar with this guy, like I said, I was not familiar with
00:40:32this guy before. Got a couple other clips here that I can show that just kind of, um.
00:40:36So let us talk about women voting, shall we? Back in the bad old days, before the 19th Amendment,
00:40:41the men were considered to be the heads of their households and represented their families at the
00:40:45ballot box. So what happened when their wives were granted suffrage? Let us take a typical
00:40:50presidential election to illustrate it, using the first one in 1920 after women's suffrage was
00:40:55accomplished, the election between Warren Harding and James Cox. If both the husband and wife vote for
00:41:00Harding, say, then what you have done is simply multiply the number of total votes cast for him by two.
00:41:05And if the husband votes for Harding, say, and the wife votes for Cox, then what you've done is
00:41:09cancel out the voice of that particular household. Upon discovering how they were each going to vote,
00:41:14what would be the harm if the two of them just stayed home for a quiet dinner together in order
00:41:18to cancel out one another's vote that way? Where was the great progress supposed to be locally?
00:41:22He's really reaching to make this argument. He interchanges the word household for man.
00:41:27Remember that. Remember that. Every time he uses the word household, it's about the man.
00:41:32There's also, but there's also a flaw in his logic. Well, here, let me play a little bit more
00:41:36of this. Men who don't have families can't vote. Yeah. So household is bullshit. Right. Right. Yeah.
00:41:42Good point. But there's another flaw here. But let me, let me just play a little bit more of this.
00:41:46Has now greased all the BBs. Nothing coheres anymore. In the older system, the people were grouped
00:41:51in molecules, Birch's little platoons, some of them quite complex. And molecular societies are much
00:41:57more capable of resisting the demands of statism. So the suffrage movement was actually not taking
00:42:02up the cause of women, but rather was part of a long sustained war on the family. The nadir of
00:42:07this kind of thinking says that a decision to abort a child is a decision between a woman and her
00:42:12doctor. The father of the child is stripped of any legal ability to protect the life of his own
00:42:16legitimate child. We need to retrace all of our steps in order to discover how travesty like that
00:42:22could ever happen. And when we do, we discover that a lot of it started at Seneca Falls.
00:42:27Now, the thing that I don't understand is so about his logic. I mean, aside from obviously,
00:42:33I disagree with his position, but I also, there's something about how he gets there that I don't
00:42:37quite understand. So if you've got, because he uses this example. So if you've got two,
00:42:41if you've got two people in a household, if you've got a man and a woman who both vote the same way,
00:42:47you've effectively doubled the, the, the vote, the voting power of that household. Whereas if,
00:42:53if they vote, if they, if the two households vote differently, then they've effectively canceled
00:42:58out each other's vote. Like, look, I'm not good at math, but why, why does that even,
00:43:02why does any of that even matter? Because what if you have election of votes that counts,
00:43:06but what if you have, if you have two people in a household though? So if you have two people in
00:43:11a household and they both vote the same way and they both vote the way you want them to do,
00:43:16right? If, if, if you're a conservative and you've got a conservative couple and they both vote the
00:43:22same way you've, you've, yeah, maybe you've doubled the voting power of that household. But in that
00:43:27case, that's a good thing, right? For you, if they voted the way you want them to vote. So it's kind
00:43:33of like, so for lack of a better way of putting it, I guess what I'm saying is in response to his
00:43:38argument about doubling the voting power of a household and whatnot, who fucking cares in the end,
00:43:44what does it matter? It matters that women are having a power over a man. Well, that's the
00:43:50thing, but he's not presenting it that way. That woman's vote might cause the candidate that she
00:43:56likes to win. And if she's not going to obey her husband, that's what he means. That word is
00:44:02important, but that's not to obey her husband. Then she's counting. She's killing his vote because
00:44:09she's not obeying him. But when she is obeying him, she's giving him an abundance. But we don't
00:44:15want to allow either one of those. We only want the men to vote. Remember, he doesn't say that a man
00:44:21who doesn't have a wife and kids can't vote. Right. Of course. He says household vote. A man is a
00:44:28household. A woman is not anything, right? Unless she's under some man's roof, then she's part of
00:44:36his household. Yeah. The only exception to the rule is when a woman is allowed to be in her own
00:44:43head of household because her husband died. But you never divorce. Divorce is an absolute sin.
00:44:49And now broaden this. So this is where we are, right? And now we have a faith office in the White
00:44:56House, Christianity only. We have a task force that is supposed to weed out any anti-Christian
00:45:05bias. And we have a religious liberty commission. These things didn't exist before Trump because
00:45:14we've recognized it. Some of it. Well, we saw it during the anti-Christian initiative. And we
00:45:22didn't have a friggin we didn't have a woman in the White House under this faith office who, by the
00:45:28way, thinks she can move a hurricane with a stick. Paula White. Yeah, she's a lunatic. No, but but I'm
00:45:34just saying, though, like this isn't this isn't all new because we did see some of this to a to a small
00:45:40extent during the George W. Bush administration. And that's part not like this. No, but that's part
00:45:45of the reason why. Because if you remember, I kind of find it offensive that you have because I feel
00:45:51like Bush is an entirely different Republican than Trump. Oh, sure. And I don't think there's I don't
00:45:56think that the aspects of that are similar in any way. No, but I'm just saying, though, the roots of this
00:46:01did pre-exist Trump. Well, yes, it did. You've got to go back further than that. You've got to go
00:46:06back to Nixon and Reagan because that's when we had prayer in schools. Yeah. No, Reagan. Yeah. Well,
00:46:10we never had a public school. Yes, we did. There was a push for it. There's always I had it.
00:46:16OK, I went to I went to elementary school in the beginning of the day. We all did the press of
00:46:21allegiance. And then there was a in Massachusetts. And then there was a prayer time. And the Jewish kids
00:46:27and the Jehovah's Witness kids were in the hallway. That really surprises me in the
00:46:31classroom. It didn't last long. That surprises me. It didn't last long. But that happened.
00:46:35OK, no. But my point, my point was my point was, though, that we saw a lot of this. The reason
00:46:40Christian conservatives, for example, they embraced you, but they didn't they never trusted
00:46:45his father. And the reason they never trusted his father is because Bush senior was resistant
00:46:49to the Christian right. He he he kept them at arm's length, whereas W embraced them. And he
00:46:55did have I don't remember specifically, but he did have some faith based initiative stuff going
00:47:00on during his administration, little piddly things. It wasn't anything that was going
00:47:03to amount to something, somebody getting in trouble or anything. These guys are actually
00:47:07literally out to get people because they have the power now. You're anti-Christian.
00:47:12I'm going to sue you. Like, this is where we're at right now. Yeah. Right. Oh, yeah.
00:47:16And and no, I'm just I'm just saying that because I have religion in government.
00:47:21Period. I agree. I agree. And when you ask people like, you know, I mean, this is the pastor
00:47:26that we're talking about is the kind of person who leading these people that are doing these
00:47:29things. Yeah. Right. They want this country to have. What did he say? He wanted Jesus to
00:47:36be the head of the country, basically, was his thing. And and he said that Muslim. What
00:47:42do you say about Islamic faith was I don't know what he said. Everybody else's faith is heresy,
00:47:47but their version of Christianity. That's literally outside the Oval Office now. And that concerns
00:47:54me. And when you say you're going to go target people that you consider anti-Christian, what
00:48:00does that really look like? How is that going? And is there anything going on that we don't
00:48:04even know yet? Like, because this exists. We know it exists. What are they doing?
00:48:08Miriam Banish says in Texas they had a moment of silence when she was there 2003 to 2007.
00:48:14Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know that was actively happening anywhere. I always hear
00:48:18conservatives talk about that. Like it's like a compromise. It's like, well, if you're not
00:48:22going to have prayer in school, I remember that. You didn't have that? You didn't have
00:48:25the moment of silence thing either? We had that afterwards for a long time. We had Pledge
00:48:31of Allegiance, moment of silence, announcements. Just just to clarify, though. So I went to
00:48:36a Catholic school, St. John's in Concord, from grade two to grade eight. Starting in ninth
00:48:42grade, I went to public school. It's possible there was some. I doubt it, though.
00:48:46I think you missed it. I think you missed it. Because then you're only a year younger than
00:48:50me. I doubt it was happening even in public school in New Hampshire, but it could have
00:48:53been. It could have been and I just missed it. It certainly wasn't happening because
00:48:57in ninth grade, ninth grade, I started going to public school and there was nothing even
00:49:00approaching anything like that in public school in Concord when I was when I was in public
00:49:05school. But there could have been something that I just was never exposed to. That's certainly
00:49:09possible. When I was in when we when we move when I'm one of the moves I had, I have
00:49:14was it eighth grade or seventh grade? It is seventh. Oh, it's the eighth grade. I ended
00:49:19up in a school where I was one of only two Jewish kids in the school. It was an overcrowded
00:49:24school. Back then, the schools were packed and we weren't on half day sessions where they
00:49:29used to do this thing where they alternate days. But you could only walk around the school
00:49:32in one direction because it was that fall. It was that bad. And at Christmas time, I guess
00:49:37they had always traditionally just had like Christmas stuff up. But now that they had two
00:49:42Jewish kids and I made an offhanded remark once about, you know, I see all the Christmas
00:49:48stuff. How come there's nothing for Hanukkah? All of a sudden there was. And I was like the
00:49:53pariah. Yeah. Yeah. And then we did a Hanukkah song, got added to the Christmas program and
00:50:00they stopped calling it the Christmas thing not long after that and started calling it the
00:50:05fall concert or whatever. But it was called the Christmas like it. You know, I think about
00:50:10that stuff and how uncomfortable it was. And then we moved so far past that people expressing
00:50:17themselves and having their own face. And now here we are. And all of that progress is being
00:50:22completely stripped away piece by piece. And I worry that this Christian nationalist uber,
00:50:30uber right wing is going to do irreparable harm that we can't undo. And there's already so much
00:50:38going on. I mean, it's these belief systems that endorse the, the, the belief that we should pull
00:50:44people out of their car because they look Mexican and find out if they're really, if they're here
00:50:48legally or not. And that we, we, we, as a society had a long time ago said nobody in law enforcement
00:50:54should be able to, what was the word? I'm word searching here. What was the word for it?
00:50:59When you, when you highlight somebody, you're looking for a particular rate profiling. Thank
00:51:06you. Remember that was a big deal. It was in the news and they did away with racial profiling. We
00:51:11weren't going to allow that in law enforcement. Now we're encouraging it though. Now we're encouraging
00:51:16it. Um, and that certainly isn't going to affect the, uh, you know, the white Africana,
00:51:23but it sure as heck is going to affect anybody whose skin is slightly Brown or Miriam looks slightly
00:51:29Asian. Miriam says, uh, in the chat room, my autistic kid had his hands held down on the table
00:51:34because he was fidgeting during a moment of silence. So I assume this was back in Texas. He
00:51:38wasn't making noise or hurting anyone or damaging property. And they basically used a form of
00:51:42restraint. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And, and we're, and now that's being brought back up.
00:51:50I mean, you go further with Hegseth's belief system. They believed that the constant, not just
00:51:56they want the constitution is one thing, but they want the 10 commandments in every classroom
00:52:01and they want prior in every classroom. And you know, every day should start with that. Every day
00:52:08should start with praising an idol and, you know, professing Christian belief, his version of,
00:52:17I want to clarify that his, their version of Christianity, because there are a lot of good
00:52:22Christians out there that don't have these belief systems. Right. You know, who don't believe that a
00:52:27woman should be stripped of her individuality and be melded under the man in her household, be it her
00:52:34father, her brother, her husband. And these people are in decision-making positions now that are setting
00:52:40laws that are literally putting people in jail. Right.
00:52:45Or in concentration style camps. Miriam said in the chat, if someone isn't raised with religion,
00:52:50how would they choose the religion, the right religion? Well, that's the fallacy of it all.
00:52:54That's, that's the base, that's the giant gaping logical in religion to begin with.
00:53:00Let me, let me, let me dive into that little hole and add to that as somebody who wasn't raised
00:53:05in religion of things from different sides, it was very easy to fall prey to somebody who said,
00:53:12this is the right, this is the way, the truth and the light. Nobody get it. You know, nobody goes to
00:53:17the father by me. Like when somebody, you know, is dearly beloved, he would say to us,
00:53:22pastor Joel, dearly beloved. I was 17 when I started going to that church and this man convinced me
00:53:28that this is the way to go. All the women wore dresses, never pants. In fact, I got seen
00:53:35in a pair of jeans and I felt shame for being seen in jeans out in public. Yeah. Right. Cause
00:53:43they made me feel that way. And the way the men carried themselves and the way the women carried
00:53:47themselves, especially. Yeah. As somebody who grew up with some serious issues and a really crazy ass
00:53:56bad childhood and somebody who wasn't secure in her own femininity to be around these women who are
00:54:02the ultimate feminine in skirts and frillies and only their wedding bands. And maybe, I don't think
00:54:10they wore any jewelry except the wedding band. You know, that's the woman I'm supposed to be.
00:54:15And I'm not. What's wrong with me? My whole life was, what's wrong with me? Why aren't I like?
00:54:22Yeah. And that was such an easy prey for, right? I was really easy prey. And I ended up carrying those
00:54:29beliefs for most of my life. And my own thoughts would be pretty bad if I caught myself sinning.
00:54:37And now they're running the country and they're changing our classrooms and they want the Bible in
00:54:42the classroom and they want the 10 commandments on the wall and they want Christianity to rule over
00:54:47everything, including our governments and anybody who's Hindu or a Muslim or a Jewish or atheist or
00:54:55anything other than his brand is demon possessed. That's what he said. Demon that, that pastor. And
00:55:03you've got, I think we saw the video. Um, and you guys, yeah, I don't want, that might be the one I
00:55:09don't, or it might've been, no, it might not be because there was one I was watching without you,
00:55:13where he literally said, what's wrong with the world is the, is the, is this demon possession.
00:55:19So base, and that's part of what's right. So Democrats are demons. Oh yeah. Ideology is Satan's
00:55:27stew. Right. That's what there's, there's no more, you know, people is people talking to each other.
00:55:35I have a, I have a family member who sends me text messages that say things like that. And in the same
00:55:39text message, he'll criticize me for my ad hominem attacks on the right while he's calling me a demon
00:55:44rat and saying, I believe in calling you a lot of other things, all this other stuff. Yeah. It's
00:55:50kind of funny how one should talk to somebody you love is I do have, I do have one more video here of
00:55:56a pastor Wilson. I think we should grab this. Let's see. Which one didn't I blow this one? I didn't play
00:56:01it. Women are the kind of people that people come out of. So you just think they're meant to have
00:56:06babies. That's it. They're just a vessel. No, it doesn't take any talent to simply reproduce
00:56:11biologically. The wife and mother who is the chief executive of the home is entrusted with three or
00:56:18four or five eternal souls. I'm here as a, as a working. By the way, notice he said three or four or
00:56:24five. Did you catch that? Yes, I did. Cause, cause a big part of their deal is a big part of their deal
00:56:30is have as many children as possible. Yes. Have as many children as possible. That's a big,
00:56:34that's a big part of the correct children. Now we got to give birth to the right, the right
00:56:38children. Yes, exactly. That's why you have to get anybody who's brown out of the country.
00:56:43Right. That must be right. No, no, it's not automatically an issue. Christchurch senior
00:56:49pastor is the leader of a Christian movement that believes in a patriarchal society where men are
00:56:55dominant and women are expected to submit to their husbands. Josh and Amy Prince, along with
00:57:00their four kids, moved from Washington state to Moscow, Idaho, where Wilson's movement is based.
00:57:05Do you see Amy as your equal? Yes and no. In the sense that we're both saved by grace,
00:57:12we're absolutely on equal footing, but we have very different purposes, God given. But do you see
00:57:18yourself as the head of the household, as, as the man? He is the head of our household. Yes. And I do
00:57:25submit to him. So like moving here, I was just going to say that. Was ultimately your decision.
00:57:29Yes. That's a great example. That's a great example. Wilson says in his vision of a Christian
00:57:33society, women as individuals shouldn't be able to vote. His fellow pastors, Jared Longshore and
00:57:39Toby Sumter agree. In my ideal society, we would vote as households and I would ordinarily be the one
00:57:44that would cast the vote, but I would cast the vote having discussed it with my household.
00:57:49Really? Yeah, I trust you. I trust. We talked about it. Yeah, we discussed it.
00:57:53What if your wife doesn't want to vote for the same person as you?
00:57:57Well, then that's a great opportunity for a good discussion.
00:58:00There are some who have gone so far as to say that they want the 19th Amendment repealed.
00:58:04I would support that. And I'd support it on the basis that the atomization that comes
00:58:08with our current system is not good for humans.
00:58:12And Wilson, a veteran himself, is unapologetic about his view that women shouldn't be in certain
00:58:17leadership or combat roles.
00:58:19Looking at the leadership page for Christ Church, it's all men. Do you accept women
00:58:24in leadership roles in the church and in government?
00:58:27In the church, no.
00:58:28Why?
00:58:28Because the Bible says not to.
00:58:30Well, that's not what happens in the Bible. Women do lead all the time.
00:58:34Progressive faith leader, Reverend Jennifer Butler, is concerned about Wilson's growing influence.
00:58:39He is rapidly gaining in power. He has hundreds of churches established around the country.
00:58:45They actually literally want to take over towns and cities.
00:58:49And they have access to this administration.
00:58:52Wilson's highest level connection to the administration is Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
00:58:56It's not organizationally tied to us, but it's the kind of thing we love to see.
00:59:02For his part, Hegseth has publicly praised Wilson.
00:59:05We're standing on the shoulders of a generation later, the Doug Wilsons and the others.
00:59:09So there you go. So, yeah, he's so this isn't something where, you know, we're just making
00:59:14assumptions or.
00:59:15No, we're literally repeating what these people are saying.
00:59:18Like they're not hiding their crap anymore.
00:59:20And Hegseth is all in. Hegseth is all in.
00:59:23The times they used to say only behind closed doors are out in the open now because they feel
00:59:29emboldened and they have the power and they're getting away with it.
00:59:32Yeah. Unless, you know, Miriam says I was raised vaguely Protestant and my dad was agnostic.
00:59:39My mom felt we should be free to choose what to believe.
00:59:42So I tried a few things that was empowering.
00:59:44And what I found was that I didn't need it to be a good person.
00:59:47I like Unitarian Universalists because the idea is that the community is there to help
00:59:52you discover that best path for you.
00:59:54And now there's a story out of this Doug Wilson church.
00:59:57Um, and this, you guys can look it up on your own.
01:00:00The story that I read and that's, I'm just repeating what I read is that he had a member
01:00:06in his church who was a pedophile.
01:00:09Oh, Miriam was just saying, yeah.
01:00:11He had worked with this man who repented and was forgiven.
01:00:15And then the church helped him find a wife.
01:00:18And then they had a baby boy who he then assaulted the baby boy.
01:00:23And then he went to the church and confessed that he assaulted, that he, a baby boy.
01:00:32And because he confessed and repented, he was forgiven.
01:00:36Oh, good.
01:00:37So no need to get the law involved, obviously.
01:00:39Yeah.
01:00:39Nothing to see here.
01:00:41Move along.
01:00:41Move along.
01:00:42He said he was sorry.
01:00:43Yeah, that's it.
01:00:44That's all you gotta do.
01:00:45That's all you gotta do.
01:00:45Oh, God, I'm sorry.
01:00:46You kill somebody.
01:00:47Yo, God, we were all good, right?
01:00:49Hey, sorry.
01:00:50Yeah.
01:00:50Yeah.
01:00:51So that's the belief.
01:00:52That's the belief.
01:00:53So this man, right, that this is, this is the caliber of human.
01:00:57And if you, the handmaid's tale, nothing in the handmaid's tale that Atwood wrote was
01:01:02not something that had happened or is happening in this world.
01:01:05Every aspect of the society that she wrote about are things that actually happen, you
01:01:12know, and in the handmaid's tale, men can do no wrong and they still have their
01:01:19cliquities, their, their kinks, right?
01:01:22There's a place in the book where it's called Jezebel's where the commanders, the men go
01:01:27and sleep with whatever woman is being kept there who is a sex slave.
01:01:31And then they go home and they go home to their dutiful wives and thump the Bible.
01:01:36You know, that is what I see here.
01:01:38These, these Bible thumping holier than now bastards who dehumanize their women and their daughters and anybody who doesn't believe their way is a demon.
01:01:53Either demon possessed, he said, or I don't know if it was ignorant or something, but he basically believes that anybody that doesn't believe the way he does is because they're demon possessed.
01:02:04Like for reals, like they really do think that.
01:02:08So when they hurt somebody, they think they're hurting this demon.
01:02:13Yeah.
01:02:13That's a good, it's a good workaround.
01:02:15Yeah.
01:02:15Yep.
01:02:16That's not about the hue.
01:02:17It's a demon.
01:02:18Right.
01:02:19Right.
01:02:19He calls women cunts.
01:02:22Charlotte, women are not supposed to be in charge because also they're devious.
01:02:30Remember the apple?
01:02:32Well, that's, yes.
01:02:33Women are devious.
01:02:34That's where it all started.
01:02:35And have a, and have a pension for the evil side.
01:02:38That must be where the word evil comes from.
01:02:40Eve.
01:02:41Never thought of that before.
01:02:42Actually, I have to look that one up.
01:02:43I'm not sure.
01:02:44Yeah.
01:02:44I never thought of that till now.
01:02:45But when, I mean, when you really get into those belief systems, it is very powerful
01:02:53and very dangerous.
01:02:55And now it's being wielded against anybody who isn't one of them.
01:03:00Yep.
01:03:00Anybody who isn't going to toe the line of one of them.
01:03:03Like if you're not the white heterosexual male that they want you to be, if you're supporting
01:03:09them, they're going to have you to dinner.
01:03:11Yeah.
01:03:11Ask a few people who are from Cuba, how they feel about that.
01:03:15Who had dinners with the Republicans down there.
01:03:17Vote for us.
01:03:19We're going to give you back your nation.
01:03:21And now you can see videos of them crying.
01:03:24Rubens in Florida.
01:03:25Yes.
01:03:26Because they voted for Trump.
01:03:27They believed everything they said.
01:03:29And now their loved ones are being deported.
01:03:31Yeah.
01:03:31I don't have any sympathy for them, just for the record.
01:03:34But I'm just saying, this is how these people operate.
01:03:37Yeah.
01:03:37You're a black man.
01:03:38Come on in.
01:03:38Come on, honey.
01:03:39Just make sure you marry your own kind.
01:03:41Because if you think that doesn't exist in this type of church.
01:03:43Sure.
01:03:44Church, you're wrong.
01:03:45Of course it does.
01:03:46You're wrong.
01:03:47Yeah.
01:03:47It totally does.
01:03:48And anybody who's not them is not equal to them.
01:03:52Think of a tax system.
01:03:53Because that's basically what we're being set up into now.
01:03:56The Uber elites are running everything.
01:03:59They're getting the tax breaks.
01:04:00They get shit tons of tax dollars.
01:04:02I mean, hard-working people, citizens and non-citizens, get money taken out of their paychecks long before they ever see a dime.
01:04:11And that money is now going into the pockets of the people that we're talking about.
01:04:15And they're going into the CEOs of these companies that make $20 million a year annual salary, never mind their perks and bonuses.
01:04:23Who the fuck needs $20 million a year to live?
01:04:26Well, not only that, but look at people like Doug Wilson.
01:04:29You know, he lives very well.
01:04:30He's a very wealthy man.
01:04:32A lot of these religious leaders are very, very wealthy.
01:04:35That's why I, you know, and again, I'll be-
01:04:39Some of these churches are a million-dollar church.
01:04:41And, you know, I get, and again, I get accused by a family member of being anti-Christian when I say this stuff.
01:04:47But it's like, I'm actually not anti-Christian.
01:04:49I think Gandhi was right.
01:04:52You know, when Gandhi, I can never get the exact quote right when he said, it's not your Christ I don't like, it's your Christians I don't like because they're so unlike your Christ.
01:05:00Or as a friend of mine used to paraphrase, I have a friend who passed away a few years ago, but he used to say, his version of that was, Christianity is a great idea.
01:05:08Somebody should actually try it.
01:05:10Because, you know, these people so blatantly, so flagrantly, I call it ironic Christianity, you know, which is this version of Christianity where you say you love Christ and he's your savior while actively having as little to do as possible with anything Christ actually said or taught.
01:05:28Or Christ-like behaviors.
01:05:31Exactly, exactly.
01:05:32That's why, you know, I'm pretty skeptical about all of it because I don't think any of these people actually.
01:05:38What does Jesus say?
01:05:39For I was a stranger in your land and you fed me.
01:05:44For I was a stranger.
01:05:44There's a whole section of the Bible and Jesus says, you know, you fed me, you clothed me, you housed me, you did right by me.
01:05:52And then he goes after the people on the other side and he says, for I was a stranger in your land and you did not feed me.
01:05:58And you did not clothe me.
01:06:00And he casts them down because they're not the real Christian.
01:06:05The real Christian is the one who brought them in.
01:06:09The real Christian is the one that goes over to the poor and feeds them and clothes them.
01:06:15And here's the kicker for you, okay?
01:06:17The whole thing about government is not going to, doesn't want to do charity things.
01:06:22You know, we're not going to, we shouldn't have food stamps.
01:06:24We should have churches with food banks.
01:06:26That's the answer.
01:06:27We shouldn't have free things because the churches will do it.
01:06:32These are the churches and they're not doing it.
01:06:35So the same people who are saying the church is to be doing it are the same people who are the leaders in these churches who won't freaking do it.
01:06:43Right.
01:06:43They just want.
01:06:45Sorry.
01:06:45I just wanted to say, to be fair.
01:06:48So when we talk about this, you know, we're talking about the churches that are obviously all about the money,
01:06:52or at least obvious to those of us who are looking at them with a critical eye.
01:06:55There are, I just want to acknowledge that, you know, in communities all across the country,
01:07:00there are also small churches that actually do things for the community,
01:07:04like run soup kitchens and various charities and food drives and clothing drives and everything.
01:07:09So I want to acknowledge that too.
01:07:11I don't want to paint everybody with that.
01:07:12Yeah, there are people who are actually, believe it or not, trying to do Christ's work in communities all across the country.
01:07:21And they need to be acknowledged and praised for that because they're actually doing something good.
01:07:28So we don't want to paint with a broad brush, but we're talking about the charlatans who unfortunately are the ones who get all the media coverage who are who are not doing Christ's work.
01:07:36Because my theory is they're, they're atheists.
01:07:38I always say this about televangelists.
01:07:40There's no way they actually believe in God.
01:07:43Because if they, like people like Paul, I don't think it's even that I have a different theory about that.
01:07:48I know everyone says that, but I think they do.
01:07:50I think, no, I think they're full on atheists.
01:07:52I'll tell you why.
01:07:53Because if there were any part of them that actually believed, wouldn't they be afraid of going to hell for what they do?
01:08:00I think they, I think, there's no way, they are, no, they're so believe in what they're saying.
01:08:07And I lived, I lived in Kentucky, years ago I lived in Kentucky.
01:08:11And I worked in a real sweatshop, sewing factory.
01:08:15We made pajamas.
01:08:16And I had to like sew sleeves onto these shirts.
01:08:20And you had to look at your machine.
01:08:22If you were caught looking at somebody else, get yelled at in front of everybody and threatened with getting fired.
01:08:29No talking.
01:08:30There were multiple times that Friday would roll around and they'd tell us that the bank screwed something up and our paychecks weren't there.
01:08:37Or you'd go to the bank to cash your paycheck and it would bounce.
01:08:39There wouldn't be any money left in the account if you didn't get there fast enough to get your paycheck.
01:08:44But every Friday at 3 p.m., we were to shut our machines off.
01:08:48And they would play Original Sin Doctrine, sermon over the speakers.
01:08:52If you didn't want to listen to it, you were supposed to go back to work.
01:08:56But if you turned your machine on and went back to work, somebody would yell at you that they couldn't hear the sermon.
01:09:01Right.
01:09:01You seem holier than, and they believed.
01:09:04Oh, did they believe?
01:09:06I understand that.
01:09:07I came out of the office and literally, there was one day they came out of the office and said to me,
01:09:12the reason we weren't getting paid was because the fax machine messed up the numbers when they sent it.
01:09:17Yeah.
01:09:17So I told them I knew how a fax machine worked and I went home with my paycheck.
01:09:21And I was told that I was to say nothing or I would be fired and so would my husband.
01:09:25Yeah.
01:09:25But these are the same people here.
01:09:28These guys make so much money off of the faithful, but they believe wholeheartedly that God wants them to do this.
01:09:36God wants them to have these things.
01:09:38Just to clarify, though.
01:09:39These are the rewards they're having for the hard work that they're doing.
01:09:43It's called prosperity gospel.
01:09:45But what I'm just saying, I'm talking about the people at the very top, the very top, like Kenneth Copeland, Paula White, Joel Osteen.
01:09:53You don't think Paula White believes in this shit she spews?
01:09:56No, no, no.
01:09:56That's what I'm saying.
01:09:57I believe that they don't believe at all.
01:10:00I'm saying this is purely a business thing.
01:10:01That's what I'm saying.
01:10:02I'm surprised by that.
01:10:04Did I say what?
01:10:05That you don't think they're real believers.
01:10:06You're surprised?
01:10:07No, I don't.
01:10:08I don't think.
01:10:08I don't think.
01:10:09I am.
01:10:09Yeah, I don't think Paula White's in God.
01:10:11I do believe she does.
01:10:13I do think she's a true believer.
01:10:15I think she so believes that she's been chosen by this power that if she gets a stinging in her foot, it's God's telling her something.
01:10:24No, it's a business to them.
01:10:26It's a business to them.
01:10:27I will agree to disagree with you.
01:10:29Who knows?
01:10:30I mean, who knows?
01:10:31I don't know.
01:10:31I don't know what goes on in their brains or in their hearts.
01:10:33But no, that's always been my theory.
01:10:36I'm talking about the really rich televangelists like Paula White, Joel Osteen.
01:10:41I don't think they actually believe that there's a deity who's going to judge them when they die.
01:10:50Because if they actually believed that, wouldn't they be afraid to do it?
01:10:55All right.
01:10:55Let me say, I lived in Kentucky for three years.
01:10:58And you want to talk about uber-Christian.
01:11:02Sure.
01:11:02These people are Christians you've never met.
01:11:04No, but that's not who I'm talking about.
01:11:06But that's what I, no, I disagree with you there.
01:11:10These people are those people.
01:11:12They are those believers that carry it like a badge of courage.
01:11:17And they truly believe there's something magical inside them.
01:11:20When that woman stands out there praying and she believes that God is going to give her the strength to move a hurricane with a stick while she's speaking in tongues.
01:11:31No.
01:11:32Yes.
01:11:32Oh, yes.
01:11:33She knows it.
01:11:34She's a con woman.
01:11:36No.
01:11:36She knows.
01:11:37They believe that shit, lock, stock, and barrel.
01:11:40They'll fight you over it.
01:11:41They'll kill you.
01:11:42My father-in-law threatened to shoot me.
01:11:47He was going to kill me.
01:11:48Sure, sure, sure.
01:11:49What I'm talking about.
01:11:50He accused me of doing witchcraft, letting hide.
01:11:53I've met these people.
01:11:54I've met some of these people who have a shit ton of money.
01:11:57And they justify it.
01:11:59I know.
01:12:00Prosperity gospel.
01:12:02I'm talking about the people at the very top, though.
01:12:04They believe.
01:12:04Oh, no.
01:12:05I think they believe it.
01:12:06I think they're firm believers.
01:12:08I don't think.
01:12:09You think Joel Olsteen actually believes as a God?
01:12:12Yeah.
01:12:12I think he actually.
01:12:13He's going to judge him when he dies?
01:12:14Yes.
01:12:14No way.
01:12:14But he doesn't believe God's going to judge him poorly.
01:12:17They don't fear judgment.
01:12:19You've got to understand something, too, honey.
01:12:21A lot of these people believe that once in grace, always in grace.
01:12:25Once you're saved, you're always saved.
01:12:27Right.
01:12:27Which gives you a perpetual get out of jail free card.
01:12:31Whatever you commit, you are always in grace.
01:12:34And if you don't believe 100% in that, you believe that once you repent, you're fine.
01:12:40As long as you ask God for forgiveness, you go to heaven.
01:12:42So no matter what you do, even if you come to believe that something you did was wrong,
01:12:47as long as you prayed on it and turned it over to God, left it on the altar.
01:12:52Well, so do you believe that Trump actually believes all of his own bullshit?
01:12:56Or is this a con?
01:12:57See, I apply the same.
01:12:58See, I look at Trump as the same way I look at these televangelists.
01:13:00Because I also know that Trump is a con man, and he's just conned millions of people who
01:13:05are gullible enough to believe the mind of the con.
01:13:08And he tapped in and realized how much power there is in that.
01:13:15Because if they stand in front of you with the Bible, preaching gospel, and preaching
01:13:20gospel means you're saying anything godly.
01:13:22Yeah.
01:13:23So Trump standing there with the Bible and saying something godly is God.
01:13:28This is God moving through him.
01:13:30So you believe it, Locke.
01:13:31That's why he can't do anything wrong.
01:13:33Because God is directing it all.
01:13:34Right.
01:13:35And there's a plan for it.
01:13:36They believe he was chosen by God.
01:13:38Trust in the Lord.
01:13:38No matter how horrible.
01:13:38Only he knows what he...
01:13:40Yeah.
01:13:41You cannot understand the wonders of the Lord.
01:13:43Right.
01:13:44You have to put your faith and trust in it.
01:13:46And that's why MAGA people, no matter what...
01:13:48And Trump wanted to win.
01:13:49He wanted to win.
01:13:50He also wanted to stay out of jail.
01:13:52Of course.
01:13:52He saw that these people latched on, and he realized that if he gave them the Christianity they
01:13:57were looking for, they'd be in.
01:13:59Like crazy all over him.
01:14:01And that's exactly what's happened.
01:14:02All he does is give them what they want.
01:14:05And they're happy.
01:14:06And he keeps them.
01:14:07And he keeps their support and their favoritism and all of that.
01:14:12And that's all he cares about.
01:14:13I don't think he knows shit about the freaking Bible.
01:14:16Anybody who stands there and goes, two Corinthians, has never read the fucking Bible.
01:14:21Because you don't even know how it works.
01:14:23Well, my favorite clip of all time was when...
01:14:26The upside down?
01:14:27No, no.
01:14:28When...
01:14:29Who was it?
01:14:29John Heilman.
01:14:30And who was the other guy?
01:14:32Rob Halperin.
01:14:33This was back during the 2016 campaign when they asked him after a debate, was he...
01:14:37You know, if he had a specific passage in the Bible.
01:14:39And he's like, oh, no, I like all of it.
01:14:41And they asked him, well, are you more of an Old Testament guy or a New Testament guy?
01:14:44And he goes, well, you know, I think I like them both equally.
01:14:47And yet, these Christian conservatives, they're so easily conned by him.
01:14:53And they also...
01:14:55They like very much to New Testament only.
01:14:57Old Testament was done away with, was fulfilled by Jesus.
01:15:01So you follow the New Testament.
01:15:03The Old Testament isn't needed anymore.
01:15:06Well, but the Old Testament is the one...
01:15:08But the Old...
01:15:08They go to the Old Testament when it's convenient.
01:15:10Of course.
01:15:11They validate shit.
01:15:13They'll validate stories or whatever needs in the Old Testament.
01:15:15But that's not how you live by.
01:15:17You live by what's in the New Testament and what Jesus said.
01:15:21So we're not doing burnt offerings.
01:15:23No, they don't do that.
01:15:23We're not carrying a Torah school.
01:15:25We move to Sundays instead of Saturdays.
01:15:27But they don't give a shit about...
01:15:28They don't give a shit about Jesus either, though.
01:15:30Like, they don't...
01:15:31I mean, they love him and they accept him as a savior.
01:15:33But they don't actually care about anything he said or did.
01:15:35Well, they do.
01:15:36They believe it.
01:15:37I'm living a godly life by following Jesus' teachings.
01:15:40But they don't, though.
01:15:41They don't...
01:15:42They believe they are.
01:15:43They firmly, 100% believe they are.
01:15:46I think they kind of treat Jesus like he's the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving.
01:15:51You know, we love him.
01:15:53He's part of the family.
01:15:54But if Jesus wants to just go to bed now and not say anything else crazy, like, you know,
01:15:58you should take care of poor people or not let children starve or something.
01:16:01We've had enough of that, Jesus.
01:16:03Why don't you just go on up to bed?
01:16:03We just skip those parts that are inconvenient.
01:16:06Well, yeah, of course.
01:16:07It's all inconvenient.
01:16:08And they twist, you know, take any section of scripture, hand it to 10 Christians, and
01:16:14they're all going to come up with it.
01:16:15You know, they'll come up with 10 different versions of what they think it says.
01:16:18Well, yeah, because it's based on whatever they want it to be.
01:16:21Exactly.
01:16:22Exactly.
01:16:23I'll justify my belief.
01:16:25I'll find a verse that justifies this one that's me.
01:16:28And that's how it works.
01:16:29I can justify anything I want to believe.
01:16:32Look it.
01:16:32Doug believes that slavery was good for people.
01:16:36Doug Wilson is the one that said slavery was good for people.
01:16:40That's a common narrative among his ilk.
01:16:42Yeah.
01:16:43Yeah.
01:16:43And they believe that shit and they justify it biblically because you're supposed to be
01:16:47good to your slaves.
01:16:48It's in the Bible.
01:16:49They were good Christians.
01:16:50They were good to their slaves.
01:16:51Yeah.
01:16:53That's real.
01:16:53Like, I'm telling you, these people will kill you for their belief.
01:16:59That's how strong the belief is.
01:17:01It is 100%.
01:17:03And everything you do becomes for God.
01:17:06For God.
01:17:07It's that marching order.
01:17:09And they justify it.
01:17:11They, for, I believe that the vast majority of the fuckers think they're doing the right
01:17:16thing under their faith.
01:17:17But Trump is doing money.
01:17:20Heck, Seth, I think he might be fucked up and truly believe this shit because he's been
01:17:24a part of it long before he was in Trump's orbit.
01:17:27Yeah.
01:17:27He's been a part of this a long time.
01:17:30Yeah.
01:17:30He took the, he took the portrait down of the first black woman to become an, I think
01:17:36it was an admiral.
01:17:38I didn't know that.
01:17:39He took stuff down in the Pentagon that had to do with women.
01:17:42Okay.
01:17:43If it was a woman, somebody who was gay or somebody who was transgender, it got scrubbed.
01:17:47Because remember, when he first started scrubbing shit, the dumbass scrubbed the Enola gay.
01:17:52Because they have the word gay in it.
01:17:54They scrubbed.
01:17:54It's too woke.
01:17:55Yeah.
01:17:56Too woke.
01:17:57But see, woke is now also making a building accessible for a disabled person to get in.
01:18:01Oh, yeah.
01:18:01Well, anything, anything.
01:18:02They don't even know what the word means.
01:18:03Just anything they don't like is woke.
01:18:06And all Democrats are demons.
01:18:08Yeah.
01:18:08I miss the days when people politically could disagree, but debate one another, work for
01:18:15the greater good of our country.
01:18:16Because we want, I don't want Trump to fail.
01:18:20He fails, my country fails.
01:18:22I want my country to prosper.
01:18:24You want your country to succeed.
01:18:25Exactly.
01:18:26But what we're, we're undoing decades of good works, you know, pulling special ed kids out
01:18:32of school and reinstitutionalizing them.
01:18:34Why are we doing this?
01:18:36You don't want, because they don't want kids to know how to work with disabled people or
01:18:42they just want to put every, I swear they want to take anybody who's disabled or special
01:18:46needs and just lock them away in a facility.
01:18:49Because if you can't make the money and you can't serve them, you have no purpose on this
01:18:53earth for them.
01:18:55And these rich pricks live in a different world than us.
01:18:58You and I and all of, probably 90% of our listeners don't live in the same world of these
01:19:04people.
01:19:04They don't shop in the grocery store like you do.
01:19:07They don't go to the same clothing stores that you do.
01:19:09They don't drive the way, they don't do anything the way you do.
01:19:13Things are laid out for them because they're that rich.
01:19:16They set it up ahead of time.
01:19:17Yeah.
01:19:18And we have a greed issue in this country.
01:19:21That's what we have.
01:19:22When a, when a healthcare CEO makes $25 million a year or even a million dollars a year, but
01:19:28you're going to raise the premiums and you're taking away dental care from people on Medicare
01:19:32because they use too much of it, the insurance they paid for, but because they use too much
01:19:37of it because you don't have the money for their care, but you have money for multi-million
01:19:43dollar salaries and payouts and two private jets.
01:19:46You won't fly with the peasants.
01:19:48These are the people running the country.
01:19:49On that part with you, I do agree, but I do think that Paula White is a real believer.
01:19:54Trump, no.
01:19:55No, Trump, definitely not.
01:19:56I think he's a believer.
01:19:57Texas, I think he's a believer.
01:19:59Texas, yeah.
01:20:00And Paula White, I think she's a believer.
01:20:02It's a business.
01:20:03I think it's, I think she's a believer.
01:20:05No way.
01:20:05It's a business.
01:20:07All right.
01:20:08Well, should we, just about an hour and a half, should we put a button on this one?
01:20:12I think we can put a button on this one.
01:20:14You want to remind people about your article?
01:20:16Yes.
01:20:17My article is up on Common Dreams, and I have not put a link onto my website, but I will
01:20:21do that today.
01:20:22Please go to my website, which is jencoffee.com, J-E-N-N-C-O-F-F-E-Y.com.
01:20:28If you can see the screen, it's right there.
01:20:32Feel free to hit me up privately if you've got a question, a concern, or anything you want
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01:20:36Check it out.
01:20:37Back at you.
01:20:38All right.
01:20:38Very good.
01:20:39Very good.
01:20:39See you on the other side.
01:20:40And by the way, everybody, please check out this weekend's radio.
01:20:44The radio edition of the show, of course, we do every Saturday at WMNH 95.3 FM.
01:20:49Of course, this version of the program has no direct affiliation with the radio station.
01:20:53This is a completely separate venture, the AF version of MCU.
01:20:57But we did have a great radio show this week.
01:20:59We had Superbug, New Age Phonograph, and Jamdemic on the show.
01:21:04And we had a great time.
01:21:05A lot of great music.
01:21:06And I love it.
01:21:07Really enjoyed.
01:21:07We are so spoiled and privileged to get to hear all the music that we get to.
01:21:11Oh, by the way, a new name in the chat room, Carolyn Poole, who says, keep on keeping on
01:21:15Oh, Carolyn.
01:21:15Someone you know.
01:21:16Excellent.
01:21:16Actually, yes.
01:21:18Yes.
01:21:18Somebody close to my heart from my childhood.
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01:21:21Very good.
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01:21:43Yes, that is the plan.
01:21:44That's some wrestling going on.
01:21:46That's right.
01:21:47That's right.
01:21:48All right.
01:21:48I guess that's going to do it for us for now.
01:21:49We'll talk to you all a little bit later.
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