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On "Forbes Newsroom," Cliff May, Founder and President of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, spoke about what the most likely outcome of the summit in Alaska is.
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00:00And he didn't fully express all of those measures today. He had a back and forth exchange with a
00:06reporter. I want to read that full exchange. A reporter asked Trump, will Russia face any
00:11consequences if Vladimir Putin does not agree to stop the war after your meeting on Friday?
00:15Trump says, yes, they will. The reporter says, what will they be? Sanctions, tariffs. And then
00:20Trump said, I don't have to say there will be very severe consequences. What a what do you think
00:26those consequences should be? I know you said they should be severe economic pressures. And B,
00:31do you think that President Trump should lay out all of those consequences on the table on Friday
00:36during that meeting? I don't look. I understand why he didn't want to do it to a reporter. It's
00:42fine. I think I can guess pretty well. And I just have for you sanctions, secondary sanctions,
00:47taking the Russian wealth in Europe, using it for Ukraine, supplying munitions. Those are the obvious
00:53things. Anybody can should be able to figure that out. Trump doesn't need to say it to the press.
01:00He could say it privately to Putin. He could say, use your imagination, Vladimir. You know what I can
01:06do. And I'm going to do it if I have to. Don't make me. All I'm asking for is a ceasefire and the
01:13start of some negotiations between you and Zelensky so that we can end the killing. I'm a humanitarian.
01:20My job is to end wars when I can. In the few months I've been president, I've ended several
01:27conflicts. At least I put a halt to them. Let's see if we can get a ceasefire. Let's see if we can
01:33extend that into some kind of armistice. But right now I'm telling you, here's what I want. You can walk
01:38away and tell me no, and then I'll have to do what I have to do. I don't know. I can't say whether
01:44it's best for Trump to be very specific. Probably not, I would say. Again, Putin knows what's up
01:52Trump's sleeve. And best case scenario, I think, from this meeting is there's an immediate ceasefire.
01:59But what do you think the most likely outcome is from Friday's meeting?
02:04There will either be a ceasefire or there won't. I think it's very binary here.
02:11What I hope not to see is Trump making concessions to Putin that have to do with Ukrainian land
02:21or promises to demilitarize or other things like that, giving concessions in exchange for
02:27a ceasefire. If that happens, then we would have to conclude that Trump had not succeeded
02:33in this negotiation. And Trump is a pretty good negotiator. I think he's quite well aware
02:40of what it means to walk out of the room having done well, having done better than his adversary.
02:48He's negotiated against a lot of people. None, probably quite as tough, certainly none,
02:54with the kind of homicidal background that Putin has. So I think we should wish Trump well. I think
03:02it's important for Ukrainians. I think it's important for Russians, too. Again, a lot of Russians are
03:07getting killed because Putin wants the legacy of having restored an important part of the Russian
03:13slash Soviet empire.
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