00:00So the first guy you heard was Louis Riddick, who we love, had him on at the Super Bowl.
00:06He was giving flowers to everything.
00:11They're going to be well-coached, they're going to be buttoned up,
00:13heck of a draft, good job, Elliott Wolfe.
00:16And he called it ridiculous to them making the playoffs.
00:19Like, that's a complete turnaround.
00:21What he described is a complete 180.
00:25Well, I think the two choices in this segment were ridiculous or not ridiculous.
00:30Oh, okay, I'm sorry.
00:32I don't know what games they play, like we do, you know.
00:35It's time to get in the pocket.
00:37Yeah, but if you think that they're going to be competitive, then I would say that it's not,
00:40if you think they're going to make that big of a leap, I don't think it's ridiculous
00:42to think that they're going to be a playoff team.
00:44Like, if you think they did that good of a job in the offseason, I don't think it's ridiculous.
00:48I think he was over the top complimentary.
00:50Like, how do you, then, that should convince you, yeah, I could see him making the playoffs.
00:54I could see him getting in.
00:56I could see him flexing the game at the end of the year.
00:58If somebody gets popped and you're playing for a playing spot, one of those last games
01:03in December, yeah.
01:05Do you think it's realistic that they can be better than the Jets?
01:08Yes.
01:10I think they will be better than the Jets, but I think the Jets are going to be right
01:12there with you, like right at eight, right at seven, somewhere in there.
01:16You think it's realistic that they can be better than the Dolphins?
01:19Yes.
01:19They're already better than the Dolphins.
01:20That's hard to say, though, with Tua being 6-0 against you.
01:24That's just so stupid to me.
01:27Scoreboard.
01:28Scoreboard, Zoe.
01:29I agree that they are, T-Bone.
01:31Better than the Dolphins?
01:32Jets and Dolphins.
01:35I need to see it before I can say the Dolphins.
01:37I'm kind of that, too, now.
01:39Week two?
01:40They go down there?
01:40I know we like to talk about snapshots here, but I actually like to see the stuff on the
01:44field.
01:44You go down there in week two, and you play well in the heat, and say it's 100 degrees
01:48down there, it feels like 110 or whatever, and you come out and sneak out of there with
01:51a win, that's a massive win for you.
01:53That gets you thinking, okay, they're a real threat in our division.
01:58Those type of wins.
02:00I'm trying to find the quotes that were coming out of yesterday's joint practice with the
02:06Dolphins and Lions.
02:08Are you talking about Tyree Heels?
02:10No, it was reports.
02:12Some people call it the most uncompetitive joint practice that they'd ever seen, and
02:15either the Lions are a juggernaut, or the Dolphins are going to be really, really, really
02:19bad this year.
02:20Now, I guess both of those could potentially be true here, but you would think that you'd
02:24be more competitive against the Lions than what the Dolphins were with some of that talent.
02:28I just, I think it's trending in the wrong direction, man.
02:31I really do down there, and I know, like you said, 6-0 is hard to argue with, and I could
02:36see a situation where maybe you do get popped by the Dolphins in that early week, and
02:40then, similar to the, do you remember the Jacksonville team after 2017?
02:44Yeah, it was their Super Bowl down there.
02:46It was hot.
02:46It was 110.
02:47They beat the Patriots that week, and I think they might have started the year 2-0, and then
02:52it completely fell off the rails for that organization afterwards.
02:55Like you said, that was like their Super Bowl coming back from 2017, and then the whole
02:59operation fell apart.
03:00I think you could see something like that going on in Miami this year.
03:04All right, so what about, man, NFC, AFC North is loaded.
03:11Ravens, Bengals, Browns, Steelers, out of those teams, Patriots?
03:15Was that Peter Schrager at the end talking?
03:18I think it was.
03:19Yeah, okay.
03:19Yes.
03:19So, like he said, too, AFC's loaded.
03:22It is.
03:23It's top-headed.
03:23It's not the tomato can AFC anymore, man.
03:25Nah, that sucks for you.
03:26Like, you mentioned Cincinnati and Baltimore canceling each other out with the two quarterbacks.
03:30It's like, and throw the Steelers, by the way, in there.
03:34You forget Rodgers is there, and they got Jalen Ramsey.
03:36That Pittsburgh game's not going to be easy.
03:38No, it's not.
03:39I think you're better than the Browns.
03:41Yep.
03:42Texans, Colts, Jags, Titans.
03:46It's a soft division right there.
03:48Texans, I think.
03:49Tough one, the first one.
03:49You're better than the final three.
03:50Texans are better than you.
03:51Yeah, I agree with that.
03:52You're down on the Jaguars still?
03:54Yes.
03:55I don't believe in the quarterback.
03:57Brand new coach.
04:00Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers.
04:05That's another tough division, man.
04:09Broncos, I could see a step back this year with Bo Nix, but they're still good.
04:15I don't think you can say that the Pats are better than the Broncos right now.
04:18Can't.
04:19Chiefs, speak for themselves.
04:21Chargers, tough team.
04:23They're an 11-win or 10-win team, right?
04:25Yeah.
04:25Raiders, I think, are going to be right around kind of where that 8-win, win that total that
04:29we talk about, too.
04:30That's going to be tough, too, if you've got all those other teams in a division.
04:32How the hell are they going to do it?
04:33Well, that's a good point, too.
04:34How do you get to 8 wins if you're in that division?
04:36That's a fair point, though.
04:37That's a fair point.
04:37Thanks, buddy.
04:38Thanks for coming today.
04:41We'll get to that.
04:43There's some debate about what actually took place at the end of the show.
04:45Don't even know.
04:46I was checked out.
04:46I was reading the text.
04:47There's no debate.
04:48You were right?
04:49Yes.
04:50Jesus Christ.
04:55I laughed at my own joke that I never told.
04:58It was pretty good.
04:58But, yeah, so look, it's tough division.
05:03It's not the AFC that you remember from back in the Brady days, for sure.
05:08I think a big part of that is obviously the quarterbacks.
05:10When you talk about Josh Allen in the AFC East, you've got Burrow.
05:13You've got Rodgers.
05:14You've got Lamar in the AFC North.
05:17CJ Stroud in the AFC South.
05:19And then you've got, say what you will, Bo Nix, Herbert, and Mahomes in the AFC West.
05:24Yeah.
05:25Yeah.
05:26I still think they're running 11 games.
05:28I do.
05:29I'm still buying it.
05:31That'd be massive.
05:32My God.
05:33What do you think the realistic expectation is?
05:37You're sticking at your number even after the game?
05:38I'm stuck at nine right now.
05:40I've got to see how they play on Saturday.
05:43Because if it's the same stuff, if they're buttoned up and the energy's there and they're coaching on the sideline
05:48and you're turning the ball over and the quarterback's protecting the ball,
05:52if he looks better, just the fact that he had a good week and he looks better Saturday,
05:58then you start like, okay, we've got something here.
06:02Let it play out.
06:03But you can't go 1-3 in September.
06:05You can't.
06:06No.
06:07Absolutely not.
06:08I think that's why that Raiders game is so huge.
06:10Wait a minute.
06:11Did the Super Bowl team start 1-3?
06:14Did he start 1-3?
06:15One of the Super Bowl teams?
06:17In the early part of the dynasty.
06:19Was it 0-3 that might have started 1-2?
06:22Maybe.
06:23The Patriots?
06:24Yeah.
06:28Because they got hot at the end of the day.
06:30I think they won nine in a row or something.
06:31Wasn't it the first one?
06:32In Philly, maybe?
06:33It may have been the first one.
06:35Because they also had that, what, 21-game win streak?
06:38Regular season?
06:40They're rolling with that thing.
06:42He started 2-2 in 0-3.
06:482001.
06:49Wow.
06:501-3.
06:52Yep.
06:52I can't remember any of that.
07:00I'm trying to find.
07:01You don't even remember what you said yesterday.
07:03No, or what he didn't say yesterday, right?
07:05What he didn't say, right?
07:06Yeah.
07:06Ain't that something?
07:07Blame myself for saying something.
07:08I never said it.
07:10ESPN has best case and worst case scenarios for the New England Patriots.
07:14What do you have for them?
07:14What do you put to that?
07:15What do you think the best case and worst case scenario is, though?
07:18Best case is 11 versus 6.
07:20Or 5.
07:23Don't you dare effing mention 4.
07:27Can't do it.
07:28Can't do it again.
07:29They're right there with you, though.
07:30They have them at 11 and 6.
07:31Ownership will lose their mind.
07:32I think 6 is too low.
07:346 is somewhat disappointing.
07:366 is beyond somewhat disappointing.
07:37If they're walking away with 6 wins this year, that's a disappointment for this team.
07:41For everything that we've seen so far in the joint practices and being competitive with
07:44these teams that were good teams in the NFC so far, and the schedule that you have, if
07:49you're walking away only improving last year's dumpster fire by two games, I'm going to be
07:55disappointed.
07:556 is if everything goes wrong.
07:58That's what they're saying.
07:58Drake May gets hurt and the pastor not's in.
08:01That's what that is.
08:02Yuck.
08:02Yeah.
08:03You're not getting a 6 if he's in.
08:06I do agree with that.
08:08My ceiling and floor for them is 12 wins and 9 wins.
08:12Oh!
08:13That's the floor?
08:14Floor has to be 9.
08:16Wow.
08:17I'm saying what it has to be, not what it could be.
08:19What it has to be.
08:20I understand that.
08:21They need to have a winning record.
08:25Competent head coach, the amount of money they threw in on the team, the supposed awesome
08:30draft they had.
08:32Needs to be a winning record.
08:35That's fair.
08:35That's fair.
08:36Yeah.
