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A tougher schedule, off field issues with the coach, and a revamped roster. What can we expect from the Patriots next season?
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00:00my god you if we have had multiple guests on the show uh we've had people who work in the
00:05media
00:06uh you know telling us from all different cities and people who are insiders that it's just a what
00:12is it called a fait accompli a fait accompli that you are going to end up having aj brown here
00:18on
00:19this team come july 1st i believe is the date and uh and to all of us just may just
00:24go okay this is
00:24this is how it's going to be a plus for the offseason but ted you have always by the way
00:31it's just real quick it's june 1st it's i'm sorry june that's right so like right around the corner
00:36right around the corner so you though ted have always kind of had a little bit of skepticism
00:41it almost sounds like when things are too certain you kind of were been like i don't know man you've
00:47covered the nfl long enough to know that sometimes when things seem really certain it doesn't always
00:51end up going the way that you think it's going i've never i've never seen a story like this
00:55quite like this where it just is pretty much uh a guaranteed handshake deal they can't they can't
01:03execute the deal for you know months in uh down the road that uh that you know where it's involving
01:10is this a tricky trade this isn't an easy trade right why is it tricky though um because i think
01:15the
01:17the health of the player do we know what his knee looks like have they but they they could look
01:21at
01:21it right i mean why wouldn't they look at it oh have they i don't i don't know that's not
01:25they can't
01:25that's the patriots can't examine he's on their roster yeah but if you're going to trade a guy i mean
01:31you can send the medicals but they haven't yet they haven't no you can't you can't do they you
01:37have to execute the trade just like what happened with max crosby yep and then after the trade is
01:43but it's all can't you do a little hush hush behind the scenes we've already done the trade
01:47i just there then there's rules violations and that's just uh you know i would think that would
01:51be a no-no right i have they already negotiated the the compensation that's the question yeah and
01:58can they do that like and also he's a star player anytime there's a star player that's available
02:04teams are going to fight each other for him it's not just a given that y'all just because
02:08everyone's been talking about the patriots the only team in the nfl that wants him exactly so
02:11tommy kern was on with jones and keith today uh worth a listen if you go back on the odyssey
02:15app
02:15at 11 o'clock but they asked him about this and he said basically the gm community is so small
02:20and
02:20he took a shot at their heights they're legitimate heights since they're short guys but they're such
02:24a tight short that nobody wants to piss anybody off so howie roseman would never do elliot dirty like
02:31this and i don't know man if you get a better deal you got to do your job your job
02:36is to get the
02:36best deal for your team so i don't buy that i don't buy that he's got to you know stick
02:41the honor
02:41the code the unwritten nod and wink if you've got another team coming in that's willing to offer
02:46you more than the patriots are you absolutely go for it or you got people to answer to but this
02:51is
02:51if they did that this is huge that swips everything around i want to hear this report that you've got
02:56so this is from who jesse who's so so kay adams had jesse palmer nfl insider on her show i
03:02believe
03:02this morning said you got this yet um and they talked about a.g around and by the way jason
03:07lock
03:07conformer was the first person to say it's not a done deal he's not quite trusted all the time he
03:12kind of throws some stuff at the wall yeah my guy uh john mcclay down houston he says uh yeah
03:16that's
03:17jason no conformer but but i think jesse palmer is pretty well respected right he is very much
03:25nothing can be i mean you're a fool oh that's a good excellent quote nice job catch all that
03:34all right i think nothing can be put in place this isn't like a release where you can designate a
03:39guy
03:39post june one with trades it has to happen it has to become official after june one anything right now
03:45is just a wink and a nod kay right in terms of an agreement and we all know how he
03:49rose we know how
03:50how he works he can obviously be yeah i think we should you know get the negotiations up and going
03:55and they had negotiations they haven't really had any to my understanding like recently but there's
04:00been some offers there's been some talk with the pats for sure but if you think howie rosen for a
04:03second is not going to be calling every other team and i mean not just taking calls but making calls
04:09to other teams on aj brown i mean you're a fool and also so true that is frightening these reports
04:15too don't you think that these reports are come out as well because when you're getting close to
04:20a situation where even though you may have like a wink and a nod with the patriots
04:24put floating this stuff out there doesn't that raise the price for the patriots like even even if
04:31this is all artificial and it might be those guys trying to get it out there that there is more
04:35interest
04:36in scaring the patriots into thinking that other teams might be in on it that's what you do that's
04:41roseman's job is to create an air of uncertainty or you're going to give him an offer that might not
04:47be maximized in your eyes wow you don't think that it's i just the way it feels is is though
04:52i mean
04:53they're but what these teams are going to be doing joint practices in the summer right i i just i
04:58feel
04:58like i hear what you're saying uh i just can't imagine they would make the patriots i don't bargain
05:03against themselves too too much right you know um go to price just went up but here's what's scary so
05:09burt breer had a report that the chiefs are a favorite to land stefan diggs which makes sense
05:13because diggs is unsigned and right so he would be good there so perfect for them but now today
05:17rushy rice violated his probation he tested positive for weed so he's got to serve 30 days in jail so
05:22he's going to miss their otas hang on people are still getting punished for weed not in the nfl but
05:26i
05:27i guess this was his part in kansas city i don't know he was on probation so he probably had
05:31like a
05:31no drug alcohol condition what the hell is going on so that's dumb so do you think the chiefs would
05:38say
05:38boy rushy rice we can't count on him let's call howie roseman and talk about a.j brown like if
05:44and that is like the afc wars are back you know so that scares me i think you got you
05:49got to factor
05:50in what does a.j brown want and i i think look i think he wants to play for the
05:57patriots so i think
05:58that's a big feather in the cap for that deal getting executed grow up a pats fan right right so
06:03i mean
06:04i can't see him things looking at the opportunity baby play with patrick mahomes as being a bad thing
06:09either i was about to say but it's got to be a team like the rams i'm guessing with matthew
06:13stafford or patrick mahomes that can't you know for him to maybe think about uh you know maybe
06:19spurning the the patriots and going and playing somewhere else palmer mentioned jacksonville so
06:23obviously trevor lawrence pretty good quarterback i mean he'd probably consider that right yeah jacoby myers
06:27teamed up with uh uh who they got parker washington and now you would throw him in the mix
06:32a.j brown no true state tax down there that's kind of nice yeah yeah yeah no that's true that's
06:37true i i i but i do think his where he wants to go is going to factor in as
06:41well so the teams that
06:43are going to negotiate with philly are i think are teams that uh are going to have good quarterbacks
06:47that are ready to win now because that's the only team he would sign on to how many more wins
06:51does
06:51this team have if it has a.j brown this season i feel like i've it's funny you say that
06:55i was thinking
06:56about this today i think he's i think he's two wins i think he's worth two wins like wow
07:00playoffs or not i think he's that important i think he's and that's huge right i think you know
07:04drake's worth seven or eight which is a lot but i think i think aj is worth two because he
07:11just
07:12opens up everything uh you can do running game that sucked last year uh the intermediate passing
07:18game the play action game that sucked last year he opens all that up and it would be so much
07:23more
07:23improved than they were last so if drake's worth eight tommy cutlet starts the whole year
07:27they're two and 15 yeah they're screwed man can i ask you something uh ted and ken all right so
07:33i've seen a lot of people talk about the patriots this year and i've heard a couple people say you
07:39know what they're a borderline playoff team looking at their schedule i think this is a team
07:44that most likely would make it in but i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't how is it that a
07:50team
07:50that got to the super bowl and not only had not only had that success last year but had one
07:57of the
07:58best off seasons you really especially if they get aj brown you really couldn't do much better which
08:02everyone is expecting how is it that they are all of a sudden getting off the hook when it comes
08:09to
08:09people's expectations for next season it's it just seems to me like there's a lot of people who are
08:15just like not putting their nuts out there and going you know what yes last year was such a fluke
08:21and this team really does stink they might not make the playoffs all they've done is gotten older drake's
08:26going to be a better quarterback we know that they've got another year with the coaching staff
08:30and they've added great pieces literally a's almost every rating you've seen from their offseason
08:36and that's before you even had aj brown so how is it that all of a sudden everyone has lowered
08:43the expectations for this team to the point where they won't even make the playoffs i think the
08:46super bowl had a big part of that i mean look i was going into the super bowl i said
08:51they're on the
08:52doorstep of a dynasty which may have gotten over my skis a little bit oh but you had the coach
08:56who's a
08:57top tier guy teddy and i believe and you had the quarterback who we believe is a top tier guy
09:03so then the game happened and i think everybody started to believe cam newton was right
09:07and nothing much has changed except for aj brown i mean they had a good draft and a good offseason
09:11but they kind of swapped some pieces so i correct me if i'm wrong ted that seems to be where
09:15we are
09:15who would have ever thought that cam newton it has fool's gold written all over it look we didn't
09:22we didn't want to say and my favorite is middle of the mall but cubic zirconia middle of the mall
09:26that is elite that was pretty good i'm not gonna lie but it was it was a last place schedule
09:31they
09:31had the it was the softest schedule rich in 50 years right this schedule is it's not just the
09:38opponents they play this is the first place schedule it's where they play them and when
09:43they play them uh the fact that there's eight games in a row without a one o'clock start the
09:48all the traveling they got to go to germany they got to go to la they got to go out
09:53to seattle they
09:54got two thursday night games brutal though i mean it is a brutal brutal schedule and so it's not
10:02surprising that people are going to come down uh you know three four five games but it isn't you make
10:07a
10:07good point though rich like if they're this good if you if drake's this good if he's elite then why
10:11are you not why are we nine wins ten wins yeah i don't get that like in the middle of
10:16the mall
10:16is there any team that has a top tier quarterback that isn't expected to make the playoffs instantly
10:23like think about it like how many teams out there that has a have a top tier quarterback well jones
10:28and keith did their tears they have two top tier quarterbacks josh allen and patrick mahomes
10:32that's it josh allen yes and the patrick mahomes thing i would put it up there but i love ted's
10:36theory that it's all downhill from here with patrick mahomes their second year was lamar jackson
10:41i would say they're they're probably super bowl or bust right stafford with the rams yes burrow yes
10:47and they put in jayden daniels and baker mayfield i don't know if i would have them in my top
10:50tier
10:51jayden daniels in the second tier yeah i mean i like baker he was when he was healthy he was
10:56really
10:56good yeah i like baker but he's never gonna win a super bowl like baker's baker's got grit and i
11:02and i
11:02i like the way he does will his team to win sometimes he says get on my back i like
11:06that
11:06but i just don't think that he's i got enough but you're right though rich all those teams are super
11:11bowl or bust it doesn't really feel that way for this year's patriots team no it seems like people
11:16are letting them off the hook there's there's a whole lot of people just going you know what
11:19i just i think if they make the playoffs it'll be a successful year how can you say that when
11:23they
11:23just were in the super bowl and you got better and you have a tier one quarterback according to
11:29almost every ranking except for jones and geef and you have a coach of the year what's the what's
11:35the roster is it was it tier what roster so you're gonna have if you have a.j brown and
11:40you have drake
11:41may you are one or two you have a tier one or two you have to you have to agree
11:47with that right
11:47well they were an elite defense last year right or are they not against the cupcakes i mean it was
11:52you beat herbert all right well then you beat uh stroud really that offensive line horrible for
11:58the chargers you beat stidham please i share it i i i'm big fans of you and your family but
12:04no
12:05you have one of the best corners in the game uh-huh they they are you know what the patriots
12:09are they're
12:09not like they don't have elite a lot of elite elite players but they are very deep with good players
12:13when you say that it's a very well-rounded team they have a lot of i would say this roster
12:17is an
12:17average roster really oh yeah i just how can you have one of the best quarterbacks in the league
12:23potentially one of the better receivers in the league and um and just think it's an average roster
12:28i i think the offensive line's got a lot of question marks well that's true i mean everybody
12:32would agree with that so it doesn't matter but let's go throwing let's go position by position
12:36the secondary let's not i don't want to go real quick real quick okay above average secondary
12:40uh with gonzalez okay above average linebacker core you love spillane yeah i do but they it's
12:48across the board that's an average group i agree if you include draymond jones and harold landry
12:52pass rushers sorry not that's a little below average milton williams and durden in the middle
12:57and barmore uh barmore way overrated mil is is a stud so i think at the end of the day
13:02that
13:02defensive line is is above average just a little above average okay so that's but no elite pass
13:07rushers yeah that's their that's a that's a problem but i still feel they're above they're an
13:12above average roster to me across the board generally speaking you're you're right o-line has
13:17questions i put i put their roster like maybe 15th 16th in the nfl you know geez man even with
13:24they were they were they were 27th last year 28th in their roster they've improved a lot yeah that's a
13:30lot they've improved a lot and they have an elite quarterback which immediately ascent makes your
13:35team ascend and i just and if they have aj brown i i don't understand i just don't get why
13:40we're
13:40letting the patriots off the hook and people are thinking that if they make the playoffs it's a
13:45successful year because then you have to reevaluate what you truly think about drake may if you think
13:50that last year's schedule was so bad do you really know how good drake may is uh yeah oh yeah
13:55yeah i
13:56can still see how good he is okay so you still think he's great even though it was a cupcake
14:00schedule
14:00yeah and he was going up against bad defenses you think that drake may is still that good with the
14:06he probably had one of the worst offensive lines in the nfl and in a receiving core that was below
14:12average yeah that's fair that is fair what are your expectations rich like do you feel like they
14:16should be super bowl um i think that they should at least like be contending for the afc i mean
14:22if
14:23you can't make the super bowl the year before and i don't even care what the schedule is and get
14:26this
14:26much better and have drake may a young by the way isn't it year three that usually these quarterbacks
14:31ascend we saw it with by the way i'm using the word yeah i got the weed on the mind
14:36but josh allen
14:37on the third day he ended our third year he ended up being josh allen because the year he became
14:42it
14:43and i just think also this whole vrabel thing believe it or not i believe is going to galvanize
14:48it's going to galvanize there we go now we're talking i'm not kidding you look at this team
14:52when they have hit in a lot of teams when they end up hitting controversy in the offseason if they
14:57are a strong team with strong leadership which i think vrabel is they're going to rally around him
15:02and they're going to come out pissed boy they're going to need it because three of the first
15:06four games on the road you play the defending super bowl champs on the road with the opener
15:11but you they have the first four opponents are all playoff teams last year the first four
15:16opponents there was only one playoff team i mean it's such a night and day different schedule you're
15:21right rich this is afc title game robust the the bar has been raised you made a super bowl i
15:25believe
15:26so so get back to the afc title game otherwise if they win 11 games i'd say this is a
15:31it was an
15:32unbelievable success this year with this schedule 11 games yeah well well listen maybe 11 games gets
15:38him in yeah yeah but but i mean that's fine but they gotta they gotta get at least make it
15:42the afc
15:43right now you have experience now you should be better drake should be better prepared to handle
15:47the postseason better line definitely improve the o-line yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean we'll see
15:52have they improved i mean vera tucker definitely if he goes i think vera tucker is a big big if
15:58he pays
15:58off yes then that's a big big upgrade big upgrade all right teddy is pessimistic it is weird are we
16:05letting the patriots off the hook this year are our expectations that much lower and should they be
16:10lower when you had a very successful offseason if you get aj brown there's almost no excuses for you
16:16not to be in the afc championship with a guy like drake may and a team hopefully rallying around mike
16:20vrabel god willing he's still on the team but are we letting him off the hook 617-779-7937 we'll
16:26take
16:26your calls next
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