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Darnell "J.D." Williams is an acclaimed American actor, cultural contributor, and storyteller, widely recognized for his nuanced portrayals of emotionally complex and socially resonant characters across film, television, and stage. A Newark, New Jersey native, Williams emerged from the city’s rich cultural fabric and performing arts community—attending the prestigious Newark Arts High School—before launching a career that has spanned more than two decades and earned him status as a vital voice in American television and cinema.
J.D. Williams is perhaps best known for his unforgettable roles in two of HBO’s most revered series. In The Wire, he played Preston “Bodie” Broadus, a loyal but conflicted foot soldier in the Barksdale Organization whose arc captured the human cost of urban decay, mass incarceration, and systemic neglect. His performance in The Wire was both subtle and shattering, earning him critical acclaim and cementing his place in television history.
Prior to that, he portrayed Kenny Wangler, a hot-headed teen inmate on HBO’s Oz, offering an unflinching look at youth caught in the prison-industrial complex. Together, these roles demonstrated Williams’ extraordinary ability to bring empathy, grit, and authenticity to the screen.
In recent years, Williams has continued to push his craft forward. He currently stars as J-Pusha on the STARZ hit series BMF, a gritty and layered role that expands his legacy of portraying multidimensional characters entrenched in the realities of the streets. His portrayal adds another textured chapter to his career—one that remains in constant evolution.
Outside of his signature HBO roles, Williams has appeared in a wide array of film and television projects, including The Good Wife, The Following, Law & Order: SVU, Manifest, The Night Of, and Bounce TV’s Saints & Sinners, where he held a main cast role as Jabari Morris. His film work includes roles in Surviving Family, Blood Brother, An American in Hollywood, Falling Awake, and the indie short One Sweet Night, among many others.
J.D. Williams' connection to music and street culture also runs deep. Between 2002 and 2005, he became a familiar face in the music video world, appearing in videos for artists like R&B legend Alicia Keys, and rappers like Nas, Mobb Deep, and Tupac Shakur (posthumously), among others. These collaborations helped bridge the gap between hip-hop and television, further solidifying his status as a cultural mainstay.
In addition to acting, Williams has a strong background in theater, having starred in stage productions such as A.M. Sunday, where he explored themes of identity, race, and family dysfunction. His approach to character work is immersive, often rooted in real-life observation, and reflective of his deep respect for the communities and stories he represents.
A true artist of the people, J.D. Williams uses his platform to champion authenticity, advocate for overlooked narratives, and give voice to the voiceless. Whether
J.D. Williams is perhaps best known for his unforgettable roles in two of HBO’s most revered series. In The Wire, he played Preston “Bodie” Broadus, a loyal but conflicted foot soldier in the Barksdale Organization whose arc captured the human cost of urban decay, mass incarceration, and systemic neglect. His performance in The Wire was both subtle and shattering, earning him critical acclaim and cementing his place in television history.
Prior to that, he portrayed Kenny Wangler, a hot-headed teen inmate on HBO’s Oz, offering an unflinching look at youth caught in the prison-industrial complex. Together, these roles demonstrated Williams’ extraordinary ability to bring empathy, grit, and authenticity to the screen.
In recent years, Williams has continued to push his craft forward. He currently stars as J-Pusha on the STARZ hit series BMF, a gritty and layered role that expands his legacy of portraying multidimensional characters entrenched in the realities of the streets. His portrayal adds another textured chapter to his career—one that remains in constant evolution.
Outside of his signature HBO roles, Williams has appeared in a wide array of film and television projects, including The Good Wife, The Following, Law & Order: SVU, Manifest, The Night Of, and Bounce TV’s Saints & Sinners, where he held a main cast role as Jabari Morris. His film work includes roles in Surviving Family, Blood Brother, An American in Hollywood, Falling Awake, and the indie short One Sweet Night, among many others.
J.D. Williams' connection to music and street culture also runs deep. Between 2002 and 2005, he became a familiar face in the music video world, appearing in videos for artists like R&B legend Alicia Keys, and rappers like Nas, Mobb Deep, and Tupac Shakur (posthumously), among others. These collaborations helped bridge the gap between hip-hop and television, further solidifying his status as a cultural mainstay.
In addition to acting, Williams has a strong background in theater, having starred in stage productions such as A.M. Sunday, where he explored themes of identity, race, and family dysfunction. His approach to character work is immersive, often rooted in real-life observation, and reflective of his deep respect for the communities and stories he represents.
A true artist of the people, J.D. Williams uses his platform to champion authenticity, advocate for overlooked narratives, and give voice to the voiceless. Whether
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00:00okay it's all right it's all right oh we're good okay recording good afternoon what's good my my
00:09my um fellow black man how's everything going doing great doing great blessed man i can't come
00:16well i could complain but it ain't gonna help so everything is all right brother no doubt i
00:20appreciate you taking the time to do this and um let's get right into it now um you have you have
00:27a lengthy career you know congratulations like your success then going forward you you're probably
00:35mostly known for you know the wire and you know you can do things in between now you're on the fourth
00:42season of stars bmf so right what is your role and what can people anticipate when they watch the show
00:51well uh this year on uh bmf i play in jay pusher uh st louis hustler uh down to the bone gold fronts
01:04southern accent or midwestern heavy midwestern accent let me put it that way um you know i'm enjoying
01:11playing him uh he's a hustler through and through always looking to make make some money um i'm
01:18fortunate that the writer jasmine darnell brown you know had me in mind and considered me for the
01:24for the role i'm having a great time and i think that when everybody you know when it's all said and
01:29done and they finish watching it this year because people kind of not really recognizing me because of
01:34you know the static so that's kind of fun too i'm gonna say that too yeah you know
01:43yeah yeah yeah yeah so go ahead and kill that this year and i had a great time shout out to uh bmf stars
01:52fifth you know heather so yeah we did it we did it big this year okay so like when when you did get
01:59the role what thought process did you have because like as i stated um i don't think that's your
02:05typecast but people are familiar with the type of characters you play so of course um for those that
02:12haven't seen it or or who was about to see it they'll probably recognize that you know what you're
02:16doing when you're playing these type of roles what goes into it and i know you grew up in newark
02:21i'm from the bronx so we're like neighbors so how how do you feel that your upbringing in newark
02:27prepared you for the type of character that that you've been known to play in recent years
02:34well yeah well like you said even when people think of typecasting but it's a lot of thing
02:40when there is a range you know a range of people everywhere right so it just you just got to find
02:46that nuance so you know brick city there's you know genius thugs you know like out here so you never
02:54know what kind of person you're going to get you know it'd be like a a straight fiend that can like
03:00build an atomic bomb or something like that you know and it's so you never underestimate uh you try
03:07to give people the proper respect and it's always into the i think it usually goes into really getting
03:16to learn and you know study people and i think you know me as an as an actor that's what i'm supposed to
03:20do anyway you know supposed to you know get a little bit into psychology you know and and how
03:27people be in behavior basically i think i think that's what most good actors do you know at a at a
03:34surface level at least um but yeah it was so much around here from north irvington east orange you know
03:42orange so much so much to absorb you know especially if you paying attention which you better you have
03:50you know yeah so if you're paying attention you're going to see like the nuances and different people
03:55whether it's men women kids but yeah i i definitely draw i draw from essex county i draw from new jersey
04:02for all the characters that i do you know so far so far so um i mean like i said i i grew up in the
04:09bronx and i've been in the industry for years so i've come up with a few actors and producers and
04:14i do know that sometimes people don't fit the standards that they that they that they um that
04:19their roles are are people surprised that you aren't bode or you're not you know this particular person
04:25based on your mannerisms because they might feel you're a certain way but you're actually not the way
04:30to portray yeah sometimes sometimes it depends but like i said there's these nuances like in some
04:38characters people can say oh i can see your i can see how you think you know how that relates so i
04:43can see you being you being smart ass here and i see why you like that i can see why you why you play
04:48this character so energetic so it's like pieces of me there but you know either it's not as extreme or
04:57you know it's more purposeful you know i can be a very hyper person but i usually reserve that for
05:03a get hyper for a reason if i can you know but sometimes you play a character that's just always
05:10amped up you know so a lot of times yeah a lot of times i have to put a little bit of myself in
05:16the characters enough to make it believable but then i just let the rest of it let rest of the character
05:21character take over the rest of it and that's the thing i tell some tell my students all the time
05:26that usually that you get typed you get cast against your type you know the the people that play the
05:33bad guys and the mean people they usually the nicest people in the world for real and the people that
05:39play the sweetest people on tv is jerks in real life you know what i'm saying so usually that's what
05:47happens you know like it goes that way it's rare that you know you meet somebody that's kind of you know
05:53balanced but you did you you gave a perfect segue because you said your students because i was going
06:00to ask you about um like your your roles outside of acting you mentioned students so people may not
06:06know but you're an acting coach right yeah yeah i went i graduated from arts high okay i know that yeah
06:16when you do when you do interact with your students the people that are learning the craft what type of
06:20advice do you give them in order to give them the edge to become successful in what they're trying
06:25to do oh so you're trying to get free the free class you're going to give me nah i'm trying to get
06:31them to encourage them to come to you to find out specifically nice it's cool no seriously but um no
06:37what it is what i do with uh first and foremost i give a quick um defining lesson of the different types
06:46of acting that there are and the difference between those you know what's the difference between
06:52stage acting theater acting commercial acting television acting movie acting modeling voice acting
06:59you know so i i make sure that my students first understand the differences and the differences in
07:04techniques then we go over like the history of the techniques you know what the differences are meisner
07:11stanislavski uh practical aesthetics you know so we go we go all those things and then it gets to
07:18what the main thing is to get to your question is you have to tell i tell each student that they have
07:24to find their style you know it can be like it can be like a martial art like your body might not be
07:31necessarily designed for you know a particular discipline so maybe you need to go to from karate to
07:38taekwondo you know what i'm saying or maybe you need so i try to teach my students to basically
07:45figure out what style works best for them and then improve and branch out on that you know some
07:51people like to do method acting method acting don't work for everybody you know what i'm saying because
07:56it gets too it gets too personal or it'll lock them into it where they now they can't act without
08:02actually having the actual thing in front of them you know it has to be real you they're like they're the
08:08type of people that's on set and they're like no slap me slap me for real really slap me you like bruh
08:14i shouldn't have to slap you you know so but so so it's actually first i tell my students the first
08:23thing i do is i i ask them to pick a style of acting that they feel like they are really interested in
08:30what they're really already kind of good at and then branch out from there you know i'm glad you said
08:37it because um when you mentioned the different types of acting i know that there's like some
08:42people think that you have to be a certain actor to become this actor this actor and that which of
08:46course isn't the case but it seems as if like a lot of a lot of actors who acted on television and
08:53movies got their start doing theater now i know that's not traditional but some people actually think
09:00that that is what are your thoughts on um theater acting versus art in comparison to acting tv and
09:09movies and i know well i think i will so i get it i love i love i i grew up doing theater i love doing
09:18theater number one um every time if i whenever i get a long enough break i usually end up going to do a
09:25play you know because it keeps you busy it keeps you sharp it keeps you playing with other actors
09:32you know like it's like sparring or training all day you know like i said i really i really do like
09:39to liken acting to you know a martial art or discipline because you do have to practice you do have to
09:45sharpen your skill you do have to compete against other people you know you need a you need a teacher
09:52a sensei you need somebody to help you get better you know you need practice dummies so there's a lot
09:57of that that goes on and that goes into uh just improving as an artist as a as an actor so i think
10:05that that that's what it that's what it takes you know you have to i love theater like i said um i've
10:12done some great plays i've done broadway uh at the roundabout theater and i've done uh uh first stage
10:21down in baltimore and i've done the boston theater house you know so i've done some big venues and and
10:28some great plays with some great directors but yeah uh theater is the truest most purest form you know
10:35so if you can train if that's your base then almost everything else is pretty much easier than that you
10:43know so i would say theater is good is great theater is great as a base because it helps you
10:50get rid of a lot of fear you know it helps you get rid of a lot of hesitation and doubt because
10:56if you got to do it one time you only get one chance to do it on stage you know so either you do
11:01or you don't and you got to keep moving on and that's good that's a good thing to apply
11:06to other uh types of acting you do because a lot of times people get caught up in their head and
11:13end up stopping or messing up somebody else's performance because you don't feel like yours was
11:18what you wanted it to be you know so there's a lot of that that has to be uh sussed out uh but theater
11:26definitely is i think like i said it's the purest form and it it can prepare you i think for any other
11:33professional setting that has to deal with acting now you mentioned now i know that there are times
11:40when specifically anything with the arts sometimes you have down periods when you have your down periods
11:47um i know some people either get frustrated or depressed or they take the break when you do have
11:54a down time what makes it better for you when you do have your down time regardless of whether it's from
12:00theater acting or just to relax like how does it make you feel when you have your down time
12:05you get anxious do you wonder what your next role is like what do you go through when that happens
12:11well i've been well i've been doing it long enough that i still do have that that bug where it's like
12:18okay this job is about to be over and i got to start looking for the next job
12:24but i also have enough you know experience and enough time into this that i kind of got like a
12:31average you know like so like i like maybe like every three to four months i'm gonna book something
12:38you know something's gonna come something's gonna happen so i don't let myself get too you know
12:44depressed or too nervous because i know you know a job is gonna come my agency is great i'm always
12:50auditioning so that's always encouraging but uh yeah a lot of times it does happen like you said
12:57a lot of i know a lot of actors they do get you know depressed and and it's always this anxiety and
13:03then because you know another thing about this type of career particularly depending on what you really
13:09planning on doing with it you have to kind of keep a momentum and you kind of have to keep building on
13:14it and sometimes that's that's what that's what is usually the most discouraging thing to actors is
13:20when when you have that love and it's like damn now i'm either people gonna be thinking i'm falling
13:25off or now i gotta start all over again or people gonna forget my last project so now it's gonna be
13:32like oh because you got to keep building you have to keep building on it you know i think i've been
13:37fortunate enough to been be doing it so long and in enough consistent projects that i'm kind of
13:45i'm i'm pretty much in there you know i still gotta audition i still gotta go and look for jobs i still
13:51gotta improve on myself however i don't have that uh that anxiety as far as like can i do it because
13:58i feel like i already did it you know i just need to do it again now i know like i know i have you for
14:04a limited amount of time i have like 90 questions but what i want to actually want to do is i know you
14:11always get this question anytime you speak to anybody because it's just natural but it has to
14:16do with the wire now my question to you from working on the wire why do you think that so many
14:23people love the wire so much and up including me like i'll still watch the wire today as if
14:29it's like on for the first time why do you think that the wire had the type of appeal that it had
14:34when it was on well i think that number one let's let's get the obvious out the way of course it's
14:41great writing great directing great acting right but as time goes on i'm starting to realize that
14:50it's an investment like to watch the wire is an investment an emotional investment a time investment
14:58a memory investment because you get introduced to so many different layers and so many different
15:02characters so that's what it is people really feel like a part of the show because you have to care
15:10about it enough to even start to analyze it you know you got to deal with the police who deal with
15:15the streets who deal with the politicians who deal back with the police you got to remember who did what
15:20to who maybe i seen people that really watch the show and they both watch it but they'll be correcting
15:27each other nah nah nah that was so-and-so man he saw him over here oh yeah and then some and these
15:32people know the show they know it but it's so layered and it can be so deep sometimes but that's
15:39part of the fun of it it's almost like a it's almost like being a comic book nerd it's like i remember
15:44that i know that you don't know this but i knew this you know so i think that that's the main the major
15:51that's like a component of it that's getting bigger and bigger and bigger just
15:56this because every year some people say they watch it every year you know so it is like there's so
16:03much investment emotional time investment people keep recommending it to other people you know you're
16:10putting your reputation on the line telling people no it's the greatest go watch it you know so there's
16:15so much investment in the show that that's what i think really is drives uh keep that that's what
16:24drives the love for the show you know like i said of course the writing acting directing you know all
16:30of that is superb that's what keeps that's what keeps people in and that's what keeps from coming back
16:36but i think the investment that people put into it is what they really really uh uh value you know
16:44people value that time they value the fact that they cared about this person like they hated me
16:51this time but then by the end now you love me like that matters to people you know the arts and all
16:56of that so it was a lot of a lot of i think it's a lot of emotional investment in the show mostly involved
17:02yeah so we know you have a long story career and i know people hate the this type of question
17:12which role was your personal favorite and why was it your personal favorite just for sometimes it's
17:20not as obvious as we might think that's the reason why i put that question in that way
17:26um i mean well you know that well you've heard this kind of answer before sometimes it's like it's like
17:35your kids you know it's hard to like choose between your kids but i'll say this i usually say that when
17:42i was playing bricks on oz that was more so like my high school years and when i was doing the wire that
17:51would have been like my college years you know so and then it's like other characters that i got to play
17:58but i'm gonna have to give it to like i said and even the character i had on saints and sinners i had a
18:05bunch of fun with that character jabari so i like characters that i get to spend a lot of time with
18:11i like characters that grow or have a good arc um so but i guess at the end of the day i'm gonna have to
18:23go with i guess i'm gonna have to go with bowie for now you know only because like i had those those
18:32years were so formative for me you know it's on screen and off screen that you know yeah i i think
18:39that's a safe bet that's a safe bet for now until i until i get into marvel or dc or something like
18:44that and end up flying around or something well one thing i can definitely give you credit for because
18:50um like i i've like every character i've ever seen you play i'm the type that i don't follow you as an
18:58actor per se but your word speaks for itself so even when i got the opportunity to speak to you now i'm
19:05like yeah i want to talk to because i like every character even if the character wasn't an idea
19:10character you played it in such a way where it's like people can't become attached to it so when
19:18people if people have told you that before like how does that make you feel and how do you encompass
19:23the character that you end up becoming um well one of the things and i think i learned this from like
19:31agent cinema mostly like watching it and seeing how you can be a bad guy but you can have integrity
19:40you know what i'm saying you can be a bad guy but you can have compassion and so i really appreciate
19:46that my audience or the people that watch it that they can they see those things in the characters that
19:51i play you know a lot of times dudes go in and they they play the tough guy and it's just a tough guy thing
19:56and they don't know why that there's no layers to it but me i always think about all right i know
20:04if i'm if i want you to hate me i want you to be conflicted about hating me i want you to be like
20:09damn i hate him but i want to like him you know instead of just oh i hate him because that that's
20:14that's what makes characters forgettable you know what i'm saying like it is so i'm always thinking about
20:22what really makes a character and this sounds corny as hell but what really makes a character human
20:29you know so you know because i'm already going to be doing something extraordinary at some point
20:37right i'm going to be shooting somebody at some point and get away with it or jumping a fence or
20:42something whatever i'm going to high speed chase or something i'm going to be doing something
20:47extraordinary but what's the the small realistic thing that people going to be like oh oh that's a
20:53that's a real person you know so and i learned that from arts high i learned that from my my drama
20:58teachers that there's always little spaces little room to fill up even when you're not saying something
21:06that makes the character more real and and that's the thing too the audience people watching you
21:12they see and they're feeling more than just what they see that's why you have to give them more
21:18than just what you are you know you always have to be present you always have to be you know looking
21:24at the other person in a certain way that's saying something you know or you know moving around in a
21:30certain way that's saying something but everything has to be for the story everything has to be for the
21:37audience you know so that's the main thing about me i just try to make sure that and i think i do a
21:43good job at it but then like i said i think that goes back to the theater work where you try to put
21:48layers you try to put layers on a thing that people can see you know and on theater in theater in live
21:55action you know people feel that it's live so it's more visceral to them you know but what happens on on film
22:01i mean or whatever on tv or movie you know let's do the screen and the screen can be like right in
22:08your face like this so even just a look like this they'll pick that up you know what i'm saying like
22:14you can't do that on stage because nobody can see your eyes like that on stage you have to turn your
22:19head you know so there's these different things that are always you know but for me as an actor that
22:26i'm always thinking of how to fill in the space how to connect to the audience and like you said how
22:31to make sure that without saying it that people can see more dimensions in the character than the
22:39writer actually wrote for me you know so and and yeah so that was perfect and i think body was a
22:46perfect example of that because i did i did not like the character at first i'm like oh he's just
22:51gonna be just some rowdy dude i think the cops gonna probably shoot me up on top of a cop
22:56car at the end of this like i'm like damn i just came from playing a bad guy and now i'm a worse
23:00guy but then as it went on they started showing how he was growing up into a man he did have ambition
23:07and you know he was he had honor and he had responsibilities and he knew how to do this and
23:12do that and he then then it got to the thing where he's like yo i'm actually you know a good employee
23:17i'm a soldier i follow orders i do this then then he wasn't getting appreciated so it was a whole arc
23:23that you know i really appreciate it and i got a lot of chances to do so much within that growing
23:31up with him and so that's that yeah that's that's just the main thing man you just gotta the theater
23:36acting and the theater academy is always looking for those those little nuances to always put out
23:44and usually like i said i'm very grateful that usually a lot of times people pick it up yeah exactly
23:50like i said i'm doing to your characters not because of i mean not because of not because
23:55of you but because of how you play the character so like that's why you do a great job because like
24:01you said you just play a character to be playing a character but i'm gonna wind it down like i said
24:05i know you got things to do um i'm curious what movie role that you've never like what role period that
24:15that you that you that you that you haven't played that when you see it on screen whether
24:19it's a movie or tv that you felt you could have played a better job than the actor who did it and
24:25no shame to whoever it is but like i said i don't want anybody feeling offended if it's somebody you
24:32actually know or you know like what movie role or what tv show where you looked at somebody like you know
24:40what i would have done that role but i would have probably done it better honestly um most of the
24:48time when i think about those things and i compare myself most of the time i'm usually comparing myself
24:53to people that i think are better actors than i am so yeah because i like to study i like to study a lot
25:02and improve a lot and push myself when it comes to acting so i would like to i mean like it's a lot of
25:11a lot of leonardo dicaprio roles i would have liked to try i wouldn't mind giving a shot to gilbert greek
25:18i wouldn't mind giving a shot to wolf of wall street you know revenant it's a lot of it's a lot of
25:25stories that he tells that i'm like yeah like that will push any actor like if you're trying to act do that
25:33because you can tell that you know at some point he really hurt himself you know no pain no gain so
25:40you know something like that or you know uh maybe one of the old tom cruise classics
25:48you know something like that like maybe an old but see that's the thing like i wouldn't want to take
25:52away those classic performances i'm just saying that i would like to i would like to do those also so
25:58like if it was something like a risky business or you know any one of the any one of the mission
26:04impossibles i would have had a ball doing that too so but that's tom cruise but you know obviously i'm
26:10not an actor that i i want to play i want to um be in mission impossible as well
26:15um is there anything that you're working on at you or do you plan on working on that you'd like to
26:20discuss that you want people to look out for whether it's now or in the media whether it's now or in the
26:25in the future well hopefully i mean i can't it's certain things i can't say too much about yeah
26:32that's what that's because yeah we we're trying to get some rights we're trying to get some deals going
26:36on but hopefully i get to do a nice little run of a couple of historical figures soon
26:42soon i would really like to do some uh biopics really soon um we had a reverend out here named
26:49reverend ron that's very famous out here in north did a lot for the city and he had a great story
26:56a life story people said tell me all the time i look like them and they want me to so maybe we might
27:00be able to get that off the ground um i would like to do a garrett morgan movie if i could find the
27:05rights and his family to talk to them i would love to do that um people been talking about me and trade
27:10possibly trying to do a mob v movie or biopic that would be good or even if um if these people
27:18just wanted to do like uh just a prodigy one i could hook that up for them too you know because
27:25i i had a chance to break bread with p a couple of times um so yeah well there's a couple things but
27:31i wouldn't mind doing a couple of biopics for right now and then uh like i said eventually getting
27:37into either a superhero franchise or a family sitcom that's what i would really like to i would really
27:43like to settle into a family sitcom as like the the goofy dad or something like that like a live
27:48action homer simpson i would love to do that that would be interesting um i guess i've taken up enough
27:56of your time i do appreciate you know getting the chance to talk to you and you know good luck with
28:02every any and every project you have going forward and like i said i'm i'm a bmf watcher so i've
28:07definitely tuned in as well and congrats to you like the aesthetics of who you are that way people
28:15don't see bowie they see and look at the character's name already um jd wait jd whatever the character's
28:22name in bmf um like i said j j pusher j pusher i should have thought about your name it's all right
28:30they push it yeah it's all right it's early in the it's early because like by the time this is
28:36over nobody's gonna never forget his name yeah exactly so like i said i appreciate you taking the
28:42time um and good luck with everything and um i'm a judge too so maybe i'll see you somewhere just
28:50happen to be somewhere and you know i'll say hey brother thank you man i appreciate you um anytime
28:56i own a shop on uh 53 university avenue called fortress of solitude it's a comic book shop so
29:02anybody want to go through there please come through and support uh it's called fortress of
29:06solitude 53 university avenue um my homeboy also owns a restaurant which which we got together it's
29:12uh it's called the rouge it's downtown dork on broad street la rouge great food great atmosphere
29:20if you ever get a chance go down there tell them i sent you you know tell them tell them jd sent you
29:24and you interviewed me and we have a good time but i want to thank you again my man thank big set i
29:29appreciate you um hopefully i'll see you again soon with the next project but just keep me in mind
29:35yeah i'm 20 minutes away from you so you might see me one day you know at one of those stores so
29:39you know for sure be safe out there until until we speak again thanks i appreciate that same to you
29:46brother peace and love peace big set mr co-sign we out if i can find the end stream button that's it okay
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