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R.M.R (aka Millimetermac) is an MC that has an extensive hip hop history that spans from 1989 to the two thousand and twenties. The Bronx-raised MC started his career in the group NU-SOUNDS with partner Chaz Rich. The two MCs created the album “Mackin” under MCA Records and Strong City Records. RMR under Strong City Records would be label mates with Diamond D, Busy Bee, Grand Puba, and more, which allowed him to sharpen his rhymes skills behind the seasoned MCs before him. During those early years, RMR was able to be on songs with the likes of Sting, Africa Bambatta, Lord Finesse, the Ohio Players, and his future partner Dion Barnes (aka Broadway).
Years later, after NU-SOUNDS disbanded, RMR collaborated with BROADWAY in a new group named STRICKLY ROOTS in 1992, which was the same team of production and management from the NU-SOUNDS group headed by Big Phil and DJ Fashion. RMR and BROADWAY created an EP titled Begs No Friends, which had the self-titled hit Begs No Friends (Remix) with Grand Puba and Fat Joe. Also, the controversial hit Duck Da Boyz In Blue. With this project's success, the group could tour and perform with the likes of Public Enemy, Shabba Ranks, Shine Head, KRS One, Wu Tang, Black Moon, The Notorious BIG, 2nd To None, and more. With the success of this project, RMR and BROADWAY decided to venture off into other projects because they were solo artist that merged together for the STRICKLY ROOTS endeavor. So RMR began to record with Diamond D and separately with GL for different projects under Mercenaries. Unfortunately, RMR and Broadway did not reconvene the journey as STRICKLY ROOTS, and they proceeded on in their own directions.
In 1994, RMR released an EP called Mercaneries with hit songs Rymorator produced by BIG CED, Stick Up produced by Yogi of the group “CRU”; at the same time, RMR featured on the song “TORTURE” with GL of (Phase 2 Black) produced by RMR. One year later, RMR had another success with recording one of only two rap songs for a movie named “The KILLING MACHINE,” which gained critical acclaim. After getting a glimpse of how movie recording and production correlated with the music industry, RMR decided to step away from music and develop a new love for storytelling, filming, and production with his daughter.
Currently, RMR has created MILLIMETERMAC FILMS, a film production that has amassed a collective viewership of over 30 million across streaming platforms such as TUBI TV, AMAZON PRIME, YOUTUBE, APPLE TV, and in independent theaters, still creating music for score.
RMR has won 9 film awards, 1 platinum award for the hip hop version of the song “Unbelievable” with the group EMF, and also his most dear to heart achievement, 1 gold plaque for the song “Begs No Friends” from his group STRICKLY ROOTS in New York and Philadelphia. With 8 seasons of the hit series (JUICY), 3 seasons of the show (BISHOP & CHAINEY), 3 full-length features, one mini-series, and over 100 music videos, RMR has recreated himself
Years later, after NU-SOUNDS disbanded, RMR collaborated with BROADWAY in a new group named STRICKLY ROOTS in 1992, which was the same team of production and management from the NU-SOUNDS group headed by Big Phil and DJ Fashion. RMR and BROADWAY created an EP titled Begs No Friends, which had the self-titled hit Begs No Friends (Remix) with Grand Puba and Fat Joe. Also, the controversial hit Duck Da Boyz In Blue. With this project's success, the group could tour and perform with the likes of Public Enemy, Shabba Ranks, Shine Head, KRS One, Wu Tang, Black Moon, The Notorious BIG, 2nd To None, and more. With the success of this project, RMR and BROADWAY decided to venture off into other projects because they were solo artist that merged together for the STRICKLY ROOTS endeavor. So RMR began to record with Diamond D and separately with GL for different projects under Mercenaries. Unfortunately, RMR and Broadway did not reconvene the journey as STRICKLY ROOTS, and they proceeded on in their own directions.
In 1994, RMR released an EP called Mercaneries with hit songs Rymorator produced by BIG CED, Stick Up produced by Yogi of the group “CRU”; at the same time, RMR featured on the song “TORTURE” with GL of (Phase 2 Black) produced by RMR. One year later, RMR had another success with recording one of only two rap songs for a movie named “The KILLING MACHINE,” which gained critical acclaim. After getting a glimpse of how movie recording and production correlated with the music industry, RMR decided to step away from music and develop a new love for storytelling, filming, and production with his daughter.
Currently, RMR has created MILLIMETERMAC FILMS, a film production that has amassed a collective viewership of over 30 million across streaming platforms such as TUBI TV, AMAZON PRIME, YOUTUBE, APPLE TV, and in independent theaters, still creating music for score.
RMR has won 9 film awards, 1 platinum award for the hip hop version of the song “Unbelievable” with the group EMF, and also his most dear to heart achievement, 1 gold plaque for the song “Begs No Friends” from his group STRICKLY ROOTS in New York and Philadelphia. With 8 seasons of the hit series (JUICY), 3 seasons of the show (BISHOP & CHAINEY), 3 full-length features, one mini-series, and over 100 music videos, RMR has recreated himself
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00:00:00what's good people's big said the industry co-signed back again my friends are better than
00:00:16yours if this is your first time tuning in welcome uh not a brief intro but i typically
00:00:24for the years i've been doing this i've always talked to celebrities and people i don't know
00:00:29or like but i decided to start this this forum because i do have a lot of people that actually
00:00:35are doing some better things than some of the celebrities i've talked to so i started this
00:00:39platform my friends are better than yours because they are you don't have your friends are not better
00:00:44than mine and that you think your friends are better than mine and they're probably my friends
00:00:47but anyway big said i have a um somebody who's actually known me longer than i think you're the
00:00:54first you're you've probably you've known me you're probably the guests have known me the longest
00:00:58outside of maybe west jackson i spoke to west jackson last year but um i can i can tell you
00:01:06that's not accurate well anyway yeah we we we we we anyway we have my boy armar miller miller miller
00:01:15miller miller how you say your name miller mack exactly i'm gonna say yo bro what
00:01:20so just something you can get right into it just introduce yourself and let the people know
00:01:28who you are and whatever information you want to give them to do
00:01:31um
00:01:32all right so uh
00:01:37armar is my rap name uh aka millimeter mack i i made that that extra name just because back in the
00:01:45days um when you could when you had those contracts and you were signed up you couldn't you couldn't
00:01:50jump on features with people man so you had to make another name in order to you know get some extra
00:01:55money on other projects and stuff so i i made that name up so it's armar that i used another meter back
00:02:00too um from the group uh well let's go further back from the group uh new sounds um that was from
00:02:111988 to 1990 i think then uh moved over to strictly roots and mercenaries i guess we'll dig more into
00:02:21that yeah bronx homegrown bronx all day cool my shirt raised in the bronx ah yes sir
00:02:29you know you know we're going to talk about what you do and what you've done anyway so
00:02:35i don't want to continue to torture you to make you say and do everything and we're going to talk
00:02:41about it anyway but like i said we grew up in the same neighborhood right right down the block from
00:02:46each other we i think we thought we were poor you know but we weren't really poor or you know
00:02:55compared to people that live like maybe 10 blocks down no doubt but um and we grew up at a time where
00:03:02crime in in the city was like 3 000 murders a year and like people got murdered during the day
00:03:10midday that wherever and so we came about a time where it was like really gritty and i i've always
00:03:18told people that i miss the grittiness of new york city but not the griminess of it yeah the grittiness
00:03:26as far as like you had to be tough you had to like really know what to do where to go and things that
00:03:30nature and be street smart without actually having to be in the streets so and i've been telling people
00:03:36that where it's like you know but i mentioned that because we came from a time where hip-hop was
00:03:41literally just starting um we grew up near bros river like well within walking distance when we
00:03:47were younger now yeah it's not now that's an uber that's an uber drive we we live close we we live in
00:03:57a soundview area even though it wasn't a soundview but we would tell people soundview area to give them
00:04:03an idea where we were but we were in the bros river area so i i can't really ask you like how did
00:04:10you become interested in hip-hop because like i said we came up the same time around the same
00:04:15atmosphere in the same environment where hip-hop was just there like we didn't grow with hip-hop
00:04:19hip-hop grew with us so it's like it was there and i remember like when um even you know what i was
00:04:27even like okay africa bambada zulu nation um i remember when we were younger when when they used
00:04:38to come over to talk to the older guys in the area you know things of that nature and i would tell
00:04:46people that like so like seeing a figure like africa bambada and then him getting into hip-hop
00:04:53was like kind of natural in my eyes because like hip-hop wasn't what it is now i wasn't even
00:04:59close didn't really start it was like it wasn't even mixtapes or cassette tapes so i always tell
00:05:05people that when we came up we came up at a time where everyone was trying to figure it out because
00:05:09there was no money in hip-hop and it was really a grim time
00:05:13yeah you know i want you see this it's so funny this is why i hate knowing the people i'm talking
00:05:21to because i have 90 different questions knowing the answer but not knowing where to start but what
00:05:28was your real interest in hip-hop not as a culture but as a profession because like i said we can grow
00:05:34up in hip-hop and never dwell into it but like you actually went into hip-hop and became a recording
00:05:40artist and things of that nature so what led you down that path to want to be an emcee um oh to
00:05:48want to be an emcee um that's what i meant like the culture we know is there we we know i'm talking
00:05:53as far as you wanted to pick up a mic and actually do it as a profession oh okay um that's probably
00:06:01gonna be yeah i'm not gonna say probably the reason for me picking up the mic is because um
00:06:08my older sister's uh boyfriend at the time was djing in the parks and doing different things um
00:06:17and a lot of his partners wrapped and stuff like that so i i was i was i was privileged enough to
00:06:23be able to be a pain in the neck little brother so when when all of this was going down i was able
00:06:29to if i could find her in the summertime my mom told me i you know because you got to be in before
00:06:34the light turning off but if you find your sister you're good so i would make sure i bounce her so i can
00:06:40go and all that kind of stuff so i would tag along so i've been in when bam and them used to throw
00:06:45parties at 123 and all that kind of stuff i actually made it to one or two of them joints
00:06:50on those those put those jams in the park i was able to tag along being probably uh i would say
00:06:58probably like eight years old i would say you had you had to be yeah you know yeah i was like seven
00:07:03eight years old and i i seen not knowing what i knew later on like some historic things man so um
00:07:10that's that's kind of what put me in the in the in the realm of wanting to do that because i've seen a
00:07:15a lot of a lot of cats get busy on the mic and i saw how um how the crowd responded to that so i
00:07:20thought it was cool i you know that at that point it was just like i thought it was cool so i think
00:07:25when i first literally wrote a rhyme i might have been like 13.
00:07:30okay because like i said i i i didn't have an interest in writing because back then remember it
00:07:37was break dancing like literally all the the elements of hip-hop um because it wasn't commercial yet so
00:07:44yeah you know i just know i was singing back then because i always was you know i always was
00:07:48into music but i knew that i wasn't going to be a rapper even though i wrote a couple rhymes here
00:07:55and there i knew i wasn't break dancing and definitely wasn't graffiti because my mother would
00:07:59have killed me because you know back then they considered that the facing property so it's like
00:08:03i'm not doing anything that's going to do that but um just being involved and just knowing and then
00:08:09we actually grew up with um uh what was rudy's um brookie boys yeah and i grew up that was that
00:08:19was like my sister's you know he was good friend he was much younger than her but so i used to be
00:08:24around him around him so when all of that was happening i you know i got i was privileged to that
00:08:29too man so i seen all of that happening man he was the first celebrity you know it from from
00:08:35from literally our like we have people in the area but like literally like in lafayette where we grew
00:08:40up like you know for him the fly girl i i remember that time actually i saw rudy last summer in jersey
00:08:46he's a preacher now yeah no no everybody's a preacher now except you and me
00:08:50yeah they ain't gonna allow me to be no preacher
00:08:54that should have burned down but i i grew up in the church though i was the one that people used to
00:09:01tease about you know having to go upstairs and every sunday being in church but you know i'm still
00:09:06around you know so that that's the testimony but i i just mentioned that because like i said
00:09:11you know seeing rudy and seeing people in the area and then hearing like lightning lance
00:09:16different people in the area like we we grew up where the essence of hip-hop was basically there
00:09:23and like you said i couldn't go to the parks my older brother was only 10 months older than me
00:09:27so like so that rule that rule didn't work but you have a justice system you know but it's like
00:09:33he's literally like 10 months older than me so it's like we're we're the same age
00:09:37two months a year so that was right but um i had an appreciation because like i said we grew up in
00:09:46there and then when i got to high school i ended up going to school with slick rig dana dane mc search
00:09:51so it's like you know so i was destined to be involved somehow even though you know i had no
00:09:59interest like i said in rapping but was always a fan still a fan and um i remember when you
00:10:07because my younger brother was in your your first video right he was in the first group that we had
00:10:13before before i even got a contract and everything yeah um i forgot what video was that that's three
00:10:19oh no um what video was it though he was in the begs no friend video yeah begs no friends begs no
00:10:27friends yeah he's the begs no i was so much later like him and i were in like a rap group together
00:10:31in the 80s oh that's right yeah because um what my brother's there mc finster baby finster baby finster
00:10:38we used to call him socket ranch
00:10:40so and i think wait i had already done a video by the time you did your video right
00:10:47yeah yeah definitely yeah i think i was already i think i had already did the mc like video
00:10:52but it seems as if like um you know then i knew you with the mca records you were signed mca records
00:10:59which was big because mca you were strong city records if i'm correct right right and i know that
00:11:05distributed by mca and that was a big deal back then because mca is a major label yeah um
00:11:10being in that atmosphere with so many like the rise of the independence didn't like get to the peak
00:11:16before then but being with strong arm city and mca how did it feel at the time because
00:11:22everybody's trying to rap but like when you had an actual contract with a major like you were
00:11:28literally like the shit because everyone has had independent labels or a boy from down the street
00:11:33or the drug dealer from across the way whatever that that was the thing so what was it like having
00:11:40an actual contract with a major label and you know because back then it was definitely a rarity
00:11:47because you came up literally at the time where it just started bubbling when it comes to major
00:11:53signing independence yeah i mean the funny thing about that is that um
00:11:58because i i came up you know and in uh strong city so i i you know that was like a whole zulu nation
00:12:06situation so i was underneath um the umbrella of a lot of people so um i got i got to actually be
00:12:13standing next to friends with and communicating with a lot of hip-hop legends so i'm i'm considered
00:12:19because i came out 88 80 or 89 i'm golden era hip-hop even though i'm not as old as those cats so
00:12:26you know like me me having a contract was kind of dope um because we got all the amenities of being
00:12:35signed to a major we would be on a lot of some of them were a promotional tour but we would be bls
00:12:42um kiss um got to do a lot of stuff so that at the time i was young i couldn't even sign my own
00:12:49contract i had to sign it with my mother so for me it was just like all right it was kind of dope
00:12:54it was it was it was cool i didn't i didn't even really really understand the you know the dynamics
00:12:59of what it was you know because we got like ten thousand dollars so i was able to buy a whole bunch
00:13:05of nonsense you know what i mean but it was it was a big deal you know what i mean so i for then it
00:13:10was just like yeah that's kind of dope man so and people in the neighborhood didn't really know because
00:13:14i wasn't really in the in the neighborhood like you know i'm an emcee you know what i mean so when
00:13:19it happened it it pretty much happened when they saw me doing videos and i was like i'm doing a video
00:13:24come on pull up and they were like oh this is like for real like they had like you know
00:13:2858 000 hours of equipment out which was a lot back then yeah definitely yeah i remember because like
00:13:37toughie was on video music box i had i was already in the paper thin video mc light uh monie love
00:13:44monie in the middle so it was like um like like outside of toughie like i was like the celebrity of
00:13:51the block i didn't feel that way but that's how they approach but i always tell people that back
00:13:56then videos was movies yeah like to be in a video was a big thing back then hell yeah hell yeah let me
00:14:04tell you when when um i can't remember uh somebody had asked me during the interview about neighborhoods
00:14:14and this and that and i had mentioned you guys because you guys were just a little bit in front of
00:14:18me so i would always mention you when toughie because i'm like yo y'all are the inspiration
00:14:22inspiration for me because as far as i'm concerned y'all were celebrities you know what i mean so
00:14:27i was like yeah i got some celebrities in my neighborhood man you know these guys that are
00:14:31not and it was like oh yeah it's like oh yeah um the um what was the um mc light on paper thin
00:14:37paper thin yeah oh but yeah what what um like she threw you off the train or something like that right
00:14:43something wild like that this is what i hate when people discuss that video the video is like what
00:14:49five minutes long whatever as many scenes as i was in that's the only scene that anybody brings up
00:14:54no question no question it'd be like yo you wouldn't want to get thrown off the train
00:14:58i was i was a boyfriend in the video why wasn't i the guy that got caught with two girls why like
00:15:03everything you could have picked everyone picks you got thrown off the train and i'm like yo
00:15:08that's how some people address because it's like yo i think i just saw you in the video did you get
00:15:14thrown out of the train and i'm like yo like you you you were you were a super celebrity behind that
00:15:21though man yeah that was a big thing and and i can't point like i said since videos or movies like
00:15:26a lot of women found me attractive on top of you know you know plus the video so you know it worked
00:15:34in my favorite definitely they hair cut clean and all that so yeah you know
00:15:39so okay like you were like you said you were like i think in three groups now um a few people
00:15:49noticed i still yeah a couple people know that i started producing and i know you was with begs
00:15:54no friends r.i.p broadway um and then you did new sap i said new sounds um yeah new sounds was first
00:16:07and then strictly roots was that just sickers yes um and then you did you did a solo project which
00:16:12you brought me in on and the funny thing was um i had yeah i had just started producing and yogi
00:16:20who was also down with the bad boy um hitman team at one time right or affiliate something like that
00:16:27he was on death jam crew yeah easy lp right it's like it's like easy lp like we um for people that
00:16:37don't know they we lived like in in like a group of eight buildings and three blocks so i lived on
00:16:44colgate um rmr and easy lp lived on boynton
00:16:50and then yogi lived on morrison so it's like everybody represent like every street was
00:16:54represented somehow and it was a great project because that was my first time my first recorded
00:17:01record my first production yeah i didn't know that i didn't know yeah it was my it was like you
00:17:06know what yeah it was my first one oh no no no i did one before when when my son when my son was
00:17:13rapping they had a little crew i did a track for i forgot the there was a girl that was down with the
00:17:19crew but it was around the same time okay that song never came out but you know with with us it
00:17:26was an independent label yeah mercenary records um and pedro wow pedro so i i appreciate the
00:17:37opportunity to to be able to showcase the talent that i was trying to cultivate and i walked away from
00:17:43because politics you know i did i did a title track on um tracy lee's album i did a couple of
00:17:49joints here there dana there a couple of people but like because of the politics like i just
00:17:54walked away from it plus i was doing other things at the time doing parties and you know doing promo
00:18:00and things of that nature but um the reason why i brought all that up is because i know within
00:18:06this industry whatever we start doing we always end up doing something else as well and i know that
00:18:12you kind of morphed over to what you're doing now which is film now before you did start the film
00:18:19company and doing video and things of that nature you you you are entrepreneur um like so i know
00:18:29sometimes it's hard for an artist to leave what they love to do something else like what was the
00:18:36transition for you and what made you go to like like not to say that you're still not an artist
00:18:42but your main focus became i guess film how did that how did that like morph like how did that happen
00:18:50for you um you know uh i had another interviewer asked me that and i was just kind of like i don't
00:18:58really know but now now i know a little bit right um because that um the duck the boys in blue video
00:19:05that we had done with strictly roots yeah height williams um that was his first video and ralph
00:19:11told me that i didn't even know that because i was interviewing ralph one of them wow yeah so that
00:19:16was his very first music video because ralph was supposed to do it but height wanted to do something
00:19:20so ralph gave that to him and i was able to just kind of like pay attention to what was happening there
00:19:26so i think unconsciously that kind of set in my brain a little bit and then later on it came out
00:19:32because i had been i had been in so many videos i'm liking lord finesse video i'm in i'm in i'm in a
00:19:40ton of videos right so i've seen the production and uh i've seen the good side and the bad side of
00:19:47it so i think uh i guess once i left music um because there was there was there was quite a period
00:19:54in time where i wasn't associated in the industry at all but i was doing other things opening up
00:19:59barbershops and blah blah blah but i always still wrote because i still had it in me to write so i've
00:20:05i've been continuously writing but um i shot a couple of videos for other people i shot like 100 music
00:20:13videos people don't really know that but so i didn't even know that and i just you know i was like
00:20:18hey man you know it seemed like it made sense so i dropped like i'm probably like 10 15 000
00:20:23on equipment i opened up a graphic design company a whole bunch of crap man so i just decided to
00:20:29go that route because i'm like i i can do it i've been in a million videos so
00:20:33and at that point my daughter was a she was a teenager yeah and she was interested in doing stuff
00:20:41so she was doing some writing and stuff so i kind of i really got into film work because of her
00:20:47because she was doing some stuff and i was just supporting what she was doing and then we just
00:20:51went into this this whole other thing man and you know because you still have to score music
00:20:56in movies i i produce also so i've always been attached to it so i you know that just kind of like
00:21:03it was i think it was just like a lateral move kind of because it's not that different
00:21:07so i do like people that um when i was producing like i i would tell people that like songwriting
00:21:17producing or two different things where i would tell people a producer a music producer is like a
00:21:24movie director in a sense where you know i could take somebody else's song and put it in a way that
00:21:31whatever vision i have for that as a producer or if i'm of course if i'm doing my own just like a
00:21:36director can take somebody's script and then put it in their vision right you started directing
00:21:41like oh actually when you first when you first actually got full time into it what direction
00:21:50because i know like producer director writer like what was it that you focused on more so or was it
00:21:58a combination of everything when you first started doing because i know with a lot of independent
00:22:02filmmakers you have to do everything yeah i mean there really was no concentrated area it was just
00:22:09because um if we wanted to make this thing happen my daughter was writing so i laid back off of the
00:22:16writing but i could but she was the one in control of that so i just did all the other stuff so
00:22:20grip film i just learned everything youtube academy and hands-on so i put all the hats on and then just
00:22:29figured it out and editing the movie is the same way that you edit on music i mean music editing came
00:22:36a long way because when we started it was the big reel and they used to cut it with the razor on that
00:22:40machine and you have to put together with the tape so i guess i'm saying yeah so it it just was a thing
00:22:50that that just kind of came to me already like all right i'm i'm already uh inclined to to do a
00:22:57couple of things i you know i do carpentry i've done man i've done a million things in my lifetime
00:23:01blood so you know it there was really no no adjustment it was just like all right i got to
00:23:07do everything so i'll just do it and see what happens and it just started to work out and i just
00:23:11got better and spent more and more money so i know you do a web series like well talk about some
00:23:18your projects and like um you know where people can find it and okay well i guess you can speak
00:23:25if you like i said i know you've been doing this for a couple years and um you know you you've done
00:23:30a couple of things so you know let us know what well we've been um we've been doing this um a little
00:23:38over 10 years now so we've had um in the beginning we had um a miniseries called troubles it was a
00:23:47three-part miniseries um that's on youtube um then we morphed into a full feature called gang gang gang
00:23:57you put that in the independent theater twice um then we moved into juicy which was a web series
00:24:04and we started with that that was a female version of juice and then that continued on so we're we're
00:24:11actually working on season eight right now um that had a spin on from that uh cop show called uh bishop
00:24:19and cheney um and we on the third season of that um we shot another full-length feature about the cops
00:24:25years ago um called troubles i mean i'm sorry uh 12 and now we put in the theater also then we shot
00:24:32another movie just a year and a half ago called way more place that is uh we put in the theater
00:24:41and that's going to be on tubi so we're going to have way more place on tubi juicy the series is now
00:24:46on tubi all seven seasons uh bishop and cheney is going to be two seasons on on tubi and also they're
00:24:55on amazon prime working out some other stuff there's a black independent uh network that we're going to be
00:25:00on soon so that's a lot of stuff what advice would you give someone who wants to follow your lead and
00:25:08wants to just get into filmmaking um like what what if if they had 10 minutes you could talk to them
00:25:16what would you tell them in order to get them started on their road to hopefully success i would say
00:25:23don't focus so much on the top of the line equipment you gotta focus in on the craft you gotta
00:25:32because you gotta have a special thing about you that makes people want to look at your movie
00:25:36right so you gotta have a good storyline you gotta have the energy to want to do it because it's tedious
00:25:42and don't always go right because i shoot other people's movies also i also i'll plug this young
00:25:47lady because she's real cool um there's a woman in philly her name is um um um kiana nicole she's
00:25:55got a three-part series called a body to kill for and she's doing really really good with that that's
00:26:00on tubi so patience networking with people and if you're doing it for the money you usually fail because
00:26:08you don't have the passion for what it what it is and if you don't have the passion it won't work
00:26:13because you'll quit because the dollar amount's not there so you'll skip the loon to something
00:26:16else and go get some money somewhere else so pretty much it man how do you feel about hip-hop these days
00:26:30let me take a sip take a sip real quick
00:26:32let me walk um some of the cats that's in hip-hop are trash right but i understand what it is because
00:26:47it moved away from being um a vehicle uh from being in the street and having something to do now it
00:26:57once again is money so people are aiming for the dollar so they're not putting a whole lot of
00:27:02energy into uh being super creative or passing a good message they're doing what's going to make
00:27:09the crowd move or what's going to be repetitive in the baby's ear because if you got the baby singing
00:27:14the chorus the world must sing the chorus so um a lot of my peers don't like the drill rap and the
00:27:23trap and all that kind of stuff i'll say specifically the drill because i'm new york i don't like half of
00:27:29them and then there's another set of those cats that are dope i think a lot of cats my age don't like
00:27:35those cats because you know they're saying crazy stuff but i'm like man i listen back to my albums
00:27:41man and i'm like oh if black was out in the 80s and 90s bro this would be a prison interview
00:27:49well speaking of since social media is such a thing now how do you think i have an idea about
00:28:01how do you think life would have been with social media when we were coming up in hip-hop in our early
00:28:08days um we had no cameras no witnesses no yeah no anything not to say we've never done anything but
00:28:20right you know cats would have been in trouble man cats would have been
00:28:26this would be a prison interview bro
00:28:28straight up um but you know what i and and i don't want to take away from young people because
00:28:36i don't like to bash them because what's happening in the street right now is a product of us
00:28:42good bad and indifferent those are your children or your grandchildren man so you can't talk too
00:28:47too too terrible about them man because they that's that's us right and they're following somebody
00:28:52yeah and i you know i've not said you know great things on records man because i was talking my
00:28:59talk that's why i don't i don't condemn the drill rappers man because they're saying what they said
00:29:02i said what i said and i ain't back i ain't backpedaling you know what i mean so it is what it is but
00:29:12cameras you know
00:29:15of course that's what i meant yeah you know but nah man i i um i like the young cats i like what they
00:29:21doing they they're expressing themselves because the reality is a lot of these cats are hurt because
00:29:26we talk about a lot of these young dudes not the young young ones but the 30s or 40s those those
00:29:33that's the remnants of people who was on crack in the 80s man so you know some of these cats man
00:29:39when they talk about uh they got a attention deficit disorder and all that kind of stuff yeah
00:29:45man that ain't that ain't that ain't random that's because you know man cats was partying
00:29:49cocaine was a thing that the folks in hollywood used to use like that she was like sugar you know
00:29:55what i'm saying so that that game was crazy and i've seen a uh a tremendous amount of stuff you
00:30:00know cats are cats are in court right now because of that you know what i mean so
00:30:08i was gonna say something but uh you know no
00:30:10hey bro you know yeah i've been to a couple parties myself but yeah but but i have a question where um
00:30:18because you brought up a good point when when we were when we started doing things like i would
00:30:24tell people when i started producing like well even before i started producing because you know
00:30:28toughie and i we had a singing group and we had to buy a reel you know book the studio time
00:30:36and since we were singing we had to practice and by the time we actually got to the studio to actually
00:30:41record then we had to go get it um mixed then get it mastered right right um so it was always a
00:30:49process and there's more dedication nowadays you can literally have your phone somebody can even
00:30:59email you some beats you can do this and within an hour it could be on spotify or it can actually be on
00:31:06the radio yeah i i i say to people that and and i hate to sound like our grand grandparents when we
00:31:14were coming up but i i've always said that i i think that because it's so easy i don't think artists
00:31:22today appreciate it as much as we did because it reminds me of when our parents were like they used
00:31:28to walk two miles of school and we're on the bus and we got it we got it easy right you know like you
00:31:35said we had to slice you have to splice the tape and you know if you make a mistake you have to go
00:31:39back and it was such a thing where like nowadays all you have to do is even even with writing i've
00:31:46been doing my website is 21 years old when i first started i had to code in order to you know the
00:31:52publishing now it's just a matter of like you cut paste you have a um a content management system
00:31:59bang everything is up so i i liken it to like people not appreciating not to take away that they
00:32:06don't do hard work but in comparison i think that like i said we we've become our parents and
00:32:11grandparents where we know what we did and what we went through to get to what we're doing and
00:32:17nowadays if we had those same tools one it would have got we would have probably either gotten
00:32:21there earlier or we probably wouldn't have gotten it because it was just too easy and more people
00:32:25would have been doing it which is another reason why i think we have so many people doing and and
00:32:30and i take nothing away from anybody that's you know taking advantage of their talent but i also think
00:32:36that um like i said i don't know what are your thoughts on that because i guess i just think that
00:32:41um it's not as people feel more um what's the word i'm looking for entitled entitled yes entitled yeah
00:32:50that's what i'm looking for yeah well uh yeah well i'm gonna sound like a grandparent then um
00:33:00because you don't you don't feel
00:33:07so um you're not so proud of what you're doing if you don't have to work that hard for it if you're
00:33:13not breaking your back to do something or it was tedious then you don't you don't have it in you to be
00:33:18like all right i'm gonna make sure this is the best because i put a lot of work and time into
00:33:23this uh when the cats go in the studio like i i hate to do punches when i was in the studio i'm like
00:33:28no no start from the beginning i'm not because jazzy j trained me on this though i i can give this to him
00:33:36that um because because we were working with real real real and tape and stuff like that all that
00:33:41punching and punching but you like hey man nah nah nah do that again man nah i'm not punching that so
00:33:47i learned that you got to learn that whole thing like you said when you went up and you had to
00:33:50master that product before you got to the studio so that you didn't have a you know a whole bunch
00:33:55of time being wasted and i think studio time might have been twenty dollars an hour back then so
00:34:00that was money so it was like nah but because things have advanced so much i think
00:34:07i i think that is cool because cats there's a lot of there's a lot of people who are talented in
00:34:13our community right so and i think they all need to be able to express it i just think that
00:34:19the microwave society where you make a record because if you can make a record right now and
00:34:23then put it out and make money off of it and you and it's good and why not man reach the world because
00:34:28i i did a lot of traveling around the world with them and in my group and all that kind of stuff we did
00:34:33some stuff and the only way you got around the world is to get on a plane there was no my song
00:34:41is in russia like i got cats reaching out to me from russia and france and stuff like that about
00:34:46songs that you and i have done songs that i've done but like
00:34:50sadat x and this other cat cloak for a cloak from the neighborhood um like different things man so i think
00:34:56i think this microwave society thing is cool because people get opportunities that they would never have got
00:35:02got because me getting the contract like you started off this conversation
00:35:06cats wasn't getting contracts when i when i when i told cats i got ten thousand dollars it was just
00:35:11like oh you know what i mean and i guess ten thousand back then yeah you know what i mean so it went a
00:35:16long way too my mother was no fool you know god bless her um you know so yeah i i dig what's happening
00:35:25right now because you know i'm still a part of it like even though i stopped doing music in the 90s
00:35:30late 90s i continued i just continue under the radar i got records overseas and then young cats
00:35:36bring me out to do features every night and then so every every decade i'm out from the 80s 90s 2000
00:35:432010 2020s i'm putting out a project this year with poobah and one of the castle sporty themes and like
00:35:52uh you know i i kept current so if cats look me up on youtube they'll see that i'm i stayed current i would
00:35:59i would have absolutely quit if i thought that i was sounding whack i'd have been like nah this
00:36:04ain't gonna work like andre 3000 say he had nothing else to say so he didn't really want to rap no
00:36:09more if i felt that way i'd have stepped off but i still had a couple of things to say and you know
00:36:15still here you know what i mean it's still in you and it's funny because like you just reminded me that
00:36:20um over the years like two guys have reached at least two years ago because i i contacted you
00:36:26some guy in europe found you know the rhyme orator right right and was like asking me questions like
00:36:33yo i want to do this and wanted to try this i'm like just just amazed because i've always i've always
00:36:40heard that hip-hop is appreciated more outside these states than within the states yeah that's why the jungle
00:36:46brothers left i i should have followed them out there like um me and michael cool uh uh baby ben
00:36:54we we were like three weeks ago yeah i've been seeing them cast in a long long time but they
00:37:01have like 20 years they were smart they they knew because they have been overseas a lot like i i
00:37:07literally i could go over there right now and go make some money but they calling me for strictly
00:37:12rude stuff they call me for new sound stuff and i'm like one of my partners unfortunately has passed
00:37:17away the other one we don't communicate so it's like i'm not going over there to do that if you
00:37:21call me out for something that i did yeah maybe i'll pull up i jump on the plane but i don't want to
00:37:28but still get paid from that stuff that stuff from the 80s still send a check to the post office box man
00:37:34okay like you said the ryan pays why not question with that but i i was just so amazed because he
00:37:42contacted me because um even though i was going by big said you know in the writer credits was like
00:37:48cedric thornton so he found me on facebook they be detectives on that computer only i'm like how did
00:37:55you find me i'm like yo and he was dead serious because you know sometimes and i'm like well you have to
00:38:01be serious because it's not like this is something that i was known for or it was like a sold 10
00:38:07million records so you know you know so and like i said not not to belittle it but i'm just saying
00:38:12that it wasn't where it was recognizable where somebody can just find me right so he either had
00:38:18to be searching or like he just couldn't have just found me just because like the character looked
00:38:23like he may have produced the record that i had heard no you know well what i what i what i had to
00:38:30find out from a cat uh in france um he told me this because i was like man how'd you find me man
00:38:36because the cat you know emailed me like oh you are like yeah and he's like listen man there is an
00:38:43absolute um love for 90s hip-hop like people are studying 90s hip-hop because all the people who've
00:38:52been publicized as the greatest in the 90s the foundation which they not but you know the biggies and
00:38:59all of those people the two pots of course that's all 90s um that's what anyone under 50 is searching
00:39:08for to find out what this is especially coaches that are not ours because they they want to embody this
00:39:14a little because they're studying this stuff in universities and blah blah blah they want to know
00:39:19all right so if jesus christ was in bethlehem we need to find out so they come they take a pilgrimage
00:39:25pilgrimage to the bronx and then they check out everything that the world seems to say is is like
00:39:31the establishment of major major hip-hop which was the 90s so that's why people gonna keep trying
00:39:37to find you you know what i mean because you was part of the 90s so so i i get a lot of stuff man you
00:39:42know especially when when videos come up i swear at least once or twice a month there's an mc light
00:39:51paper thin reference and i'm like oh in the 50th anniversary because you know that's playing more
00:39:58hip-hop showing more hip-hop and it's like pause from people and people was that i'm like leave me
00:40:06alone so so i get it from that point of view and i wasn't i wasn't an artist so that's why i said i
00:40:12could i could kind of understand but it's on a way bigger level was you know because you've been in videos
00:40:19and you've made your contracts and traveled around the world me i was just in the video and people
00:40:24like oh this that and the other i appreciate it of course but you know it's just amazing how as you
00:40:31stated that people still hold on not necessarily here but people around the world hold on to
00:40:38hip-hop from definitely the 90s because that was a great time yeah man i get i get pictures sent to me
00:40:44all the time like i um when when shock g passed away um some cat sent me a picture of me and shock g that
00:40:54that he had because i have a picture with me shock g and the whole crew and all that kind of stuff but
00:40:58he sent me a picture of uh me and shock g together and then uh you know one time i was out in the bay
00:41:06it was that that was when uh tupac was still with digital underground so we got a picture we out there
00:41:10but you know that's when cisco and insane i used to mix that together so the cat was like yeah he
00:41:16don't really want to put that picture out there because we look he was twisted but you know so
00:41:21there's some iconic joints that's out there but it's like you know people really on that man so you
00:41:26know i get i still get love for some things man i you know got some i got some stuff that people
00:41:32don't really really know you know because i i'm just not really really on it like that but
00:41:36you just brought me back because i just realized that we were we were drinking gas back then oh
00:41:44you're streaming straight liquid dust yo
00:41:50and you know i just started drinking since i was like 24 25.
00:41:55yeah because my father was alcoholic so and they said it's inherited and then
00:41:59i won't prove people wrong okay okay i didn't start drinking topic i was 24 25.
00:42:03i haven't stopped since but no so um but but when i started drinking um
00:42:11that was during the ice cube st eyes days um
00:42:17well we was thinking uh coat 45 uh champ champale valentine ale
00:42:26private stock last monkey yeah i was like yo
00:42:30we were literally putting i'm pretty sure you put those things in vehicles it would have ran
00:42:37and we that's probably why people so so crazy back then because i'm thinking about like i'm thinking
00:42:42about it now and it's like we wanted to do that back then though right like we wanted to and the only
00:42:49reason why i drank st eyes which was like premium like a gas well saying i was like i was gonna say
00:42:59saying i was lighter than oe so a lot of people yeah but i was an ice cube fan so when he endorsed it
00:43:05then i endorsed it and i'm thinking about it like you know even when i started like drinking straight
00:43:12liquor 12 ounce drinks 16 or whatever we drank whole 40s individually right we may have shared
00:43:22it every now and then but we all had our own yeah yeah at least you had to have your own joint but
00:43:29remember and and this is this is on your block because we used to go to the deli over that way we
00:43:34used to go get the 40s out of there yeah we used to get uh because i think they were like a dollar 75 or
00:43:39something like that right you would get like 10 to 15 40s and they'd only be like six of us
00:43:45and we yo man we would get busy man then once the cisco came out and we start messing around with
00:43:50that cisco and oe that would have cats passing out in the street man i've never had cisco
00:43:57worst thing you can drink bro it was like how these cats drink lean you see how they'd be looking
00:44:02a little it was like lean that tastes like rubbing alcohol i mean i've never tasted lean it's
00:44:08car syrup but you know yeah that crossed my mind when you when you were talking about the picture
00:44:14you took and i'm like yeah we were drinking like like little gasoline i can't believe like you know
00:44:21that's why we're still alive man all that all that shit in our blood
00:44:26i ain't never had covid i ain't had the flu none of that shit that's because all that
00:44:30fucking water from the fire hydrant insane eyes of oe yo
00:44:39i just had to take a minute because it was like this crazy thinking about that
00:44:43yeah man so what what do you have on deck like is there anything that you that you're working on
00:44:48or that you want to work on um for the near future or uh yeah um
00:44:53um season eight of juicy i'm working on right now um season three of bishop and cheney the web series
00:45:01both of those are web series um i got a new movie that my daughter wrote um i can't tell you i can't
00:45:08see the title yet but we're gonna start working on that um i got a cat that i i i've been cool with for
00:45:15the past few years man dope cat name is um uh kaiser i'm working on his movie it's gonna be called no
00:45:23days off that's actually gonna be a series um uh musically i'm putting together the last strictly
00:45:32moves project because dion and i were actually working on songs so the week that he recorded the
00:45:38song and sent it to me that's when that was a week that he passed away unbeknownst to me and him he
00:45:43he didn't know he was gonna pass he was sick but he didn't know that you know so i'm gonna complete
00:45:48that mission you know what i mean so i got a couple of songs that he's recorded recently and then i got
00:45:53old stuff that no one's ever heard that i'm gonna put on new music so there'll be a strictly
00:46:03you need to go make one so i can put you on that man you know just saying yeah i still got i still
00:46:07have my i still have both my npcs bugger man come on man go in there and make me make me a track man
00:46:13stop playing around man because this one's gonna be all right man i'm i'm really uh i'm keeping it
00:46:19boom back but not the corny boom back like some of that stuff is like yo bro i'm not i don't want to
00:46:23listen to that man um so i got ram poobah on the song i got the cat mikey d i'm from main source uh
00:46:33wow dudes from sporty thieves um i got rock shake with your mama gave me rock on there um he engineered
00:46:42out project yeah yeah yeah yeah um stacks cadero that's a young lady that's been out there for a
00:46:52bit yo i'm gonna say what's funny um t money um he's gonna he's gonna appear on you know one of these
00:47:00days he actually his latest episode i saw stacks cadero on there so he said that i just was talking
00:47:06to him i'm like yo i said love can i did a couple of birthday party for him when i used to do parties at
00:47:11the grill and it's so funny that you mentioned her and it's like yeah you know what's crazy is that i
00:47:17when i when i was working in the barber shop and uh i say late 80s mid-80s not late 80s she um i met
00:47:27her because she lived in that in that area she linked up with one of the catherine neighborhood
00:47:32and uh you know they had a long relationship blah blah blah but i've known her since she was a teenager
00:47:37so she she's been dope as mcn forever man yeah i think um i hate when i see people who i know are
00:47:45dope miss miss a shot and not because of themselves just the opportunity like the door should have been
00:47:52opened a little wider for them to go through because they damn sure would have made it so
00:47:57you know i i hate to see that's why i actually keep going because my daughter every now and then is like
00:48:00girl she's a celebrity now like you know her name is zoe and she out here she doing blah blah she was
00:48:08like with adam 22 in the in the projects the other day on some crazy nonsense like yeah bugged out like
00:48:14you know she she be moving around so she kind of famous in this city man so she embraced a celebrity
00:48:20i told her i never did dion was really bro it was was always the one who was really accepted of that
00:48:26like even when we was performing with shaba and all that the apollo it was cool but i was just like
00:48:30all right let's do it and let's let's move along man i you know because the music was just
00:48:37i like the rap man i like the rhyme i didn't want to be a star though you know i mean that wasn't my
00:48:42thing so you know i i was cool like being on the train yeah in the 80s and 90s when i used to be on
00:48:50the train a little bit cassius would be like what you doing on the train like well i'm on the train man i got
00:48:54a car you know i got a i think that's when hondes first came out late in the 80s maybe 87 88 but i'm
00:49:02like well you know why don't you get on the train like what i'm doing on the train bro you know as
00:49:08long as you don't try to put your hands on me you'll get off too sometimes it's easier taking that damn
00:49:14train yeah so i i always respect the cats like dougie fresh and and the mother dudes that's just been
00:49:21regular cats because yeah them dudes are iconic but they they just you know they keep it smooth
00:49:27man they don't they don't be tripping off the people knowing that you know who they are so i'm
00:49:31cool with that so yeah that's another thing like i said you know people are still human at the end of
00:49:36the day now you have some hollywood cats super you just want to smack them in the face like get away from
00:49:43them you know i got some stories about that too i've been on some planes with some cast like money
00:49:49you still got two hours don't act funny man the pressure will get low in this joint you know please
00:49:56yeah you know i got stories but you know yeah but i do appreciate you taking the time to you know
00:50:03talk to me well man we family man uh i do want to settle this debate though i i am the oldest rapper that
00:50:11i'm almost the oldest i'm the rap i'm i'm a official rapper that you know in the longest
00:50:20i tell you i'll tell you how me and jarvis went to school together we went third grade i met you
00:50:25when i was in third grade so that would put me at nine i was in your house at nine and i was like
00:50:32yo man i thought you were a big guy back then i was like oh pause super pause nah but you know
00:50:43but yeah man i i'm gonna put that stamp down man i i thought it was gonna be wilkes from the
00:50:49legion but i i'm not sure i don't know if y'all's friends for you know no but i think no but i think
00:50:54wilkes wilkes like we grew up there wilkes came i think as a teenager oh see i remember that i remember
00:51:02i remember when they moved in the building oh okay okay we was already there so that's why i was like
00:51:06i think you know it might be a couple it might be like a a year or two but yeah and and rudy but rudy
00:51:16was i think rudy's like a year older than me or so yeah he's not he's probably like he's gotta be about
00:51:2160 right now i think yeah he might be yeah yeah but yeah i mean you're right yeah so you know this
00:51:29this little this show that you got here bro that you know yeah you know your friends are better than
00:51:34others and all that kind of stuff bro i'm i'm the official man i'm og in this spot yeah yeah you're
00:51:40actually a friend because i say that i say to people sometimes you know and and they laugh and i say i'm
00:51:44like i use friends because that's the name of the thing as opposed to associates i can't say my associates
00:51:50are better than yours right right so it's like well like you said we actually like we like we
00:51:55actually came up together and um like and just like when i was talking to wes out when when we talked
00:52:02i was like like there's very few cats that can actually say that they that we grew up together
00:52:09right you know like out of all the people that i've interacted over the years i'm like
00:52:14that's going back like 50 years yeah man for sure i mean i'm not that old but i'm just saying it just
00:52:20goes back 50 years yeah you got a wig on right now when you think about it it's like you know like even
00:52:28like slick rick and dana dame it's like you know i've known him since high school yeah but i've known you
00:52:34since like little literally like eight nine years old yeah i met them in in my teen years yeah so it's
00:52:41like even when um when i'm talking about them when i'm having conversations about like um with dougie
00:52:46fresh daughter like meeting them like at the start of their careers i'm like yeah but i didn't know
00:52:51y'all as youngsters i didn't know y'all as i knew you as who y'all became i may know you personally but i'm
00:52:58like when i met you you were already dougie fresh or well well outside of like slick rick and dana dana
00:53:03because like i said they they didn't start recording yet but i just used them as an example
00:53:08because like i said that was further but you're right um yeah bro we uh we pro kids and cut off
00:53:16shorts with the string hanging off the bottom pro kids and and we my mother my mother wasn't buying the
00:53:24pro kids we was getting the kids oh yeah yeah the joints that used to be in the box in front of the
00:53:28in front of the store in front of uh uh uh not busta brown um what's um damn ah i think you're
00:53:37talking about two i can't remember i was one of the old joints man but i remember pro kids i think had
00:53:43the stripes and kids didn't or something like that yeah i think kids have one stripe but pro kids had the
00:53:48red and blue yeah yeah exactly and remember kids kids had the thing in the back like pro kids but
00:53:54the difference was the side but like you said with the stripes stripes yeah those look like pro kids
00:54:00those are those ain't pro kids shut up rejects on but they were skippies though yeah yeah yeah they
00:54:09weren't skippies but you know they were they were a step above skippies but below pro kids so yeah i mean
00:54:15because yo not and and going back to what you said man we we thought we was kind of poor or whatever
00:54:20but all we had to do was just go across the park and go into soundview projects and be like oh nah
00:54:26these cats is it's a little different over here and not everybody of course but certain cats living
00:54:31a little tough over there monroe it was looking like oh we got security driving around and you know
00:54:38you got to buzz we had we had doors in the building yeah yeah we had lots we near monroe and soundview
00:54:46projects and and yo it was crazy that we wanted to well at least i i wanted to always no we were yeah
00:54:52remember i don't know who came up with lip but it was for lafayette island projects yeah we didn't live
00:55:00in projects though right but everybody wanted to be part of projects well you know it was possible for
00:55:06projects remember that oh yeah posse and then it went to lafayette projects because cats wanted to
00:55:12get a little more gritty with it exactly because you know we were too and like i said i didn't realize
00:55:16that then because i'm thinking that we're poor but then they're looking at us like we're uppity
00:55:24and i'm like how and then like you said going over there it's like oh i never had i never tasted kool-aid
00:55:32until i was 14. and that was i was in the cats house in monroe and he's like you want some kool-aid
00:55:41and i was like um yeah all right and i drank it i was like what is this man i'm like you don't have
00:55:48juice because my balls always had like grape juice or grapefruit juice or something like that i didn't
00:55:54know what that was right and then when i told cats back in the neighborhood they was like yo
00:55:59you sound like a a crazy man i was like i never had kool-aid in my crib man so i don't know and when
00:56:05i tasted it it had crazy sugar in it i was like yo bro what is this the diabetes thought effect
00:56:15that was that was short-lived bro i didn't want to play around with that because i didn't know what
00:56:19that was and then remember chicks used to color their hair with that in the 80s
00:56:22you remember that i remember chicks used to go to dc to get them on them salt and pepper cuts
00:56:31but then when they started to add a little color they were using the kool-aid to color their hair
00:56:35i don't think i remember that wow that's funny that was the part too like i'm not drinking that man i
00:56:40don't know what that is if something you're putting your system can make your hair no that's that's not
00:56:46good crazy crazy yeah we could go on and on and like you know this is baby finster now
00:56:57you'd like to start one off baby finster now let me
00:57:03yeah so but my brother definitely good catching up um me good luck with the future projects and things
00:57:11of that nature and um you know if you need a role of a you know even if i get killed in that you know
00:57:17let's you know just let me know i gotta spot you right now just gotta come up you know gotta pull
00:57:23up man you know you mean you you stuck in your castle and you got the moat around your joint
00:57:30i usually have braids so i have my hair braided so you know see i like i like that look man that
00:57:36that look people they're like yo because when i took their hair they're like yo and i'm like you
00:57:42know especially the women because the women you know but you know my cousin does an excellent job
00:57:48with the braid so i i enjoy and plus i don't have to do anything so i'm supposed to get a personality
00:57:55this way man i think it's more personality this way man yeah yeah i think that's what people enjoy
00:58:01and when i when i did you know when i did a couple of these with my hair out
00:58:05people like yo your hair and i'm like i mean it's my hair do you want me to do and the only one that
00:58:11would tease me or say something like foul would be um people who are like can't grow hair anymore
00:58:20right oh wait a minute i just wait i just got a comment from glaze my girl's sister wait how come
00:58:28i can't see this now my girl's sister back in the day used to color her hair with kool-aid that's funny
00:58:33so i guess you were right like i said i don't remember i'm pretty sure i knew back then but wow
00:58:39that's crazy yeah but you know as long as they're not doing it now because if they're doing it now
00:58:47wait do they even have kool-aid anymore they still have kool-aid right uh what are so many different
00:58:51options nowadays we're about to both lose our black card right now we don't cut it out man
00:58:55cats watching like that you'll be like nah these two bougie bon ton cats man
00:59:02like i said we were blessed and like i said i i definitely thank my parents we were blessed to
00:59:07actually grow up in a nice area even though we didn't even though we didn't think it was nice
00:59:12compared to other areas that's like oh yeah yeah that's home base it was safe you know what i
00:59:18mean go everywhere else and act full definitely yeah but my brother let people know how they can
00:59:24reach you social media are you even on social media i'm on social media but you see uh you know
00:59:31i contact you directly so yeah um yeah so i'm on facebook or whatever uh millimeter mac films on
00:59:40facebook uh millimeter mac films on instagram oh millimeter mac films on youtube and if you're looking
00:59:48for us on tubi you just got to look up juicy the series or bishop and cheney um yeah man if you put
00:59:56a millimeter mac films you can pull up everything except police records and shit like that you know
01:00:01expunge or swiped or wiped or whatever it is you know your man elon
01:00:06um thank you everybody for tuning in if you're still with us big said industry co-sign as i state
01:00:18my friends are better than yours and if you think i'm wrong show me them and i'll prove you wrong
01:00:24until the next time um out i gotta look i do this everything where i gotta look for the end button so
01:00:32that way we can end
01:00:36okay
01:00:50yep that's it bro that's it man thank you i enjoyed that why does it still say recording but it says stop
01:00:58but it's still recording now it says stream ended okay okay yeah so sorry
01:01:08extra extra not because like it does what it wants and i'm like no this is dope man this is dope no thank
01:01:17you like i said you know i just enjoy doing this because like i said half the people i've talked to
01:01:23so far i had like the the the the girl i spoke to yesterday hadn't spoken to her like maybe like 10
01:01:31years so it's always good so when i reach out to people and and and that's the purpose really because
01:01:38it's like to catch up let people know what you're doing things of that nature and then like it just
01:01:44works as opposed to being a surprise or it being like scripted or you know and i i don't usually have
01:01:50questions i'll have like bullet points so that way i can just know what to to rely on or i look at the
01:01:55bio but usually it's however the conversation goes and yeah yeah yeah you know this can go for hours
01:02:03man you know depending on who it is you know what i mean yeah yeah a kid and and it's i actually had
01:02:09one another day last week it was like two and a half wait two longest one i did i think it was like
01:02:14almost two and a half hours but the conversation was so flowing that i could i tell people i'm not
01:02:20trying to be joe budden i'm not trying to be drink champ i'm not trying to like try to have people
01:02:25captivated for three hours but if it happens to be that way and it's still it's still a good
01:02:31conversation yeah i'm with it but yeah yeah but what i'm gonna start doing i i want to start doing
01:02:39like panels different people have a subject and just have everybody just chime in because i think that
01:02:46just getting people with different opinions like we could probably do it would be great to get lp
01:02:52and yogi and like we start by talking about the project and then whatever my lp man you know
01:02:58he was feeling the way about that joint and when i went to talk to him about he was kind of running
01:03:02for me because he thought the old person was going to sit him down
01:03:09you know what i would be willing to do it just so that the air could be clear like yo money uh you know
01:03:13you know because you you know what happened at that time he thought that he was supposed to get
01:03:20more than he was already that you got more than he got it was like something weird but that should
01:03:25have been the like the lead single or whatever and that's when he was dealing with little kim because
01:03:30that's when he made that single at um get money yeah yeah and it was like all right money i respect
01:03:37people for everything that they do and if you and if you're getting up cool but yo money
01:03:40cool out man because we you know we didn't know where they had to run it with biggie and they
01:03:45folks we was in pa one time and it was going to be a thing and it was like yeah y'all with 10 dudes
01:03:50we got 30 and half was right so what's y'all think you're doing but that actually got fixed
01:03:56by deon and his cousin because his cousin got shot by one of his folks because you know when they
01:04:01used to do that party and bullshit record yeah dummies would let off a real ground out back yeah
01:04:06so how we got hitting his leg so after that we was gonna we was gonna tear their ass up bro but
01:04:12wait why does this keep saying it says recording
01:04:15hold on
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