- 8 months ago
Despite Ivory Scott’s ascension as a much sought-after songwriter, penning hits for Beyonce, Trippie Red, and other artists that span across the diaspora of music, Scott believed that the next greatest hits he had yet to write should be for an artist that he knew best. Emboldened by the story he has not heard and motivated by the ability to create music that connects to a fanbase looking for something real, Ivory Scott set out to transform his trials into a beautiful struggle on his forthcoming debut LP MUD.
Having escaped the ills associated with growing up in an environment that is best known for its murder rate, Ivory Scott provides a sonic journal that measures him as a man. Not as he hopes to be, but of the experiences and the people that have shaped what he now understands, Ivory Scott is the manifestation of the dreams he has refused to defer. Talent aside, Scott embraces the reality of survivor’s remorse and has chosen to pioneer what “those who have the will” can be by becoming the example of what is possible.
“We need role models who come from where we come from that were able to avoid… A lot of artists have been through something but they don’t tell the story. All they see is the big chain, the cars and the things obtained but we forget to tell that story so somebody who is in the situation that we were in can get out of it.”
MUD chronicles the journey of Ivory Scott’s experiences and captures the introspection and emotions of those experiences to help the listener answer the question: Who is Ivory Scott?
As much as MUD provides the soundtrack of his journey, Ivory Scott wants this album to serve as a medium for the journey that everyone is going through. Having stepped to the forefront as the artist, he has only done so to be what he feels the people need. There is a gap for those dwelling in the mud of life who also need a soundtrack to get through. Knee-deep with stains of their circumstances beneath their fingertips, Scott wants to be the mirror for his listeners. Proud of the dirt, Scott wants to show them that they are more than what they think while in the grit of their situation.
“When we are striving in life we got to go through the dirt in order to become something bigger than ourselves. I come from the mud. I come from the struggle. I come from the part of the world that people would be afraid to go but it made me. The lotus flower grows from the mud. Just like the lotus, I’m a flower that came from the concrete.”
Ivory Scott and his debut album MUD are the motivation for what the people need and, most importantly, what they desire from music.
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Having escaped the ills associated with growing up in an environment that is best known for its murder rate, Ivory Scott provides a sonic journal that measures him as a man. Not as he hopes to be, but of the experiences and the people that have shaped what he now understands, Ivory Scott is the manifestation of the dreams he has refused to defer. Talent aside, Scott embraces the reality of survivor’s remorse and has chosen to pioneer what “those who have the will” can be by becoming the example of what is possible.
“We need role models who come from where we come from that were able to avoid… A lot of artists have been through something but they don’t tell the story. All they see is the big chain, the cars and the things obtained but we forget to tell that story so somebody who is in the situation that we were in can get out of it.”
MUD chronicles the journey of Ivory Scott’s experiences and captures the introspection and emotions of those experiences to help the listener answer the question: Who is Ivory Scott?
As much as MUD provides the soundtrack of his journey, Ivory Scott wants this album to serve as a medium for the journey that everyone is going through. Having stepped to the forefront as the artist, he has only done so to be what he feels the people need. There is a gap for those dwelling in the mud of life who also need a soundtrack to get through. Knee-deep with stains of their circumstances beneath their fingertips, Scott wants to be the mirror for his listeners. Proud of the dirt, Scott wants to show them that they are more than what they think while in the grit of their situation.
“When we are striving in life we got to go through the dirt in order to become something bigger than ourselves. I come from the mud. I come from the struggle. I come from the part of the world that people would be afraid to go but it made me. The lotus flower grows from the mud. Just like the lotus, I’m a flower that came from the concrete.”
Ivory Scott and his debut album MUD are the motivation for what the people need and, most importantly, what they desire from music.
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00:00Okay, we're good. Okay. You came back right on time. It just said recording started. Okay.
00:13What's going on? Everyone, this is Big Seth back again, the Industry Cosign.
00:18Got a special guest today, a talented artist. We're about to get into the story.
00:23He just released a debut album, Mud, and as opposed to me giving a full introduction, I'm going to let him introduce himself.
00:31So, everybody, this is Ivory Scott, and welcome to the Industry Cosign.
00:37I appreciate it, man. Thank you, Seth, for having me, man. Appreciate you guys for having me, man. For real, it's always a pleasure of having me with you, for real.
00:45No problem. Let me just – my other computer just gave me a notification. I thought I turned it off, so – okay, that's done.
00:51Okay, so for the people that may not know you, let's give them a little background as far as – actually, you know what?
01:00You just released an album. Let the people know the name of the album, the label that's on, when it dropped, and anything that you want regarding the album.
01:12Yeah, for sure. So, my new album, my debut album, my first album as an artist.
01:16Of course, we know I've been a part of a lot of big songs as a songwriter, but this is my debut album with myself as an artist entitled Mud under Monarch Music Group.
01:26You know what I'm saying? It's been a blast, you know what I'm saying, creating this project. I'm super excited about it.
01:32That's cool. Now, I know you're from Chicago, and I know you have a story because I attended your dinner last week, and I definitely enjoyed it.
01:43As you saw when you first came on, I was enjoying the music.
01:46When somebody asked me who was my next interview, I said – you know, I gave you a name. I said, Ivy Scott. I was like, what I like about him is that he has a good story, and he has good music.
01:58And I hate to say it because I've been in the industry for years. It's either one or the other, typically. It's never both.
02:03And like I said, I did get a chance to listen to some of the songs at night, and for the past, like, half hour, I was listening to more songs so I can get more of a feel.
02:13How do you get inspired – oh, you know, even before we get to that, because you are a songwriter, as you stated.
02:19Yeah.
02:20You've written songs before.
02:21So let people know, like, you know, some of the artists you've worked with and how long you've been actually writing songs.
02:28Yeah, actually, I did my first publishing deal in 2019.
02:37I've written for Beyonce, Ed Sheeran, Chris Brown, Young Blue, Lil Durk, Trippie Redd, Madonna.
02:50I mean, the list is crazy, you know what I'm saying?
02:54Like, I've been blessed to work with some of the greatest artists in the world, you know what I'm saying?
02:58And, you know, I have, like, tons in the pipeline, and I've, like, probably been a part of, like, 40 number one records.
03:05So, like, I'm blessed, for real.
03:07You know, for someone that just started, in theory, I mean, you got two big icons on there.
03:13And, of course – well, actually, three, if I'm correct, because everybody you named is definitely a great artist.
03:19But Madonna – I mean, Madonna is, like, Alton and then Beyonce and Chris Brown.
03:25I mean, being in the midst of people that you – I'm pretty sure that you admire and that you've witnessed their work,
03:33how did it feel for you to actually be within the scopes of actually working with them?
03:38Because I know it's a big difference between, like, working with them and seeing them work.
03:44Yeah.
03:44You know, it's so crazy because it's, like, I work with so many different caliber of artists.
03:50And, like, the biggest artists are always the easiest to work with.
03:54You know, it's like, you know, Madonna pinched my cheek when I met her.
03:59You know what I'm saying?
03:59And, like, it's, like, such a welcoming thing, you know what I mean, to work with artists of that caliber
04:04because you know that they've worked hard, man.
04:07They really put it all in.
04:10And I felt likeliness.
04:11Like, you know what I'm saying?
04:12I felt like I belonged in those type of rooms.
04:15Whereas, like, I might go in with an artist that might have one hit and their head is bigger than the room.
04:22But, you know what I mean?
04:23But, like, all of my experiences, personal experiences with those artists, man, was, like, heavy.
04:30Like, for real.
04:31Now, as we've already acknowledged, this is your debut album.
04:37Since you've been writing songs for other people, how was the process for you actually writing for yourself?
04:44Very personal.
04:45You know, like, when I write records for other people, like, I'm diving in.
04:50You know, it's probably a 30-minute conversation before I write any words because, you know,
04:55I want to be able to give, you know, their fans what they want from them.
04:59You know, where it's, like, when I'm writing for myself, it's personal.
05:03You know, if you listen to my album, you know, I speak about a lot of things that I actually went through in my life for real.
05:08Like, not, like, you know, making things up and just saying, yo, you know, I did this, I did that.
05:13Or, you know, that's why a lot of the music on there, it just hits the heart because it came from the heart.
05:18It came from a real place, you know, things that I've actually went through and experienced in my life.
05:23So it's very personal, you know, when I write records for myself.
05:27Yeah, that was going to be, like, one of my questions as far as, like, the inspiration for the songs.
05:32Now, when you were working on your album, did you already have songs that you had prepared?
05:37Or did you write it specifically for the album?
05:39Or was it a combination of several factors?
05:42Yeah, it was definitely a combination of both.
05:45Like, I've been working on this album for, like, the past two years.
05:48The first record that I got for this project is Mud Trauma.
05:53And the album actually wasn't titled Mud when I came up with Mud Trauma.
05:58It was just a record that I did specifically for myself coming from a place of, you know, a person coming from struggle.
06:05Whereas, like, some records, like, might have been intentional.
06:07Like, I went to this project, actually, executive produced by Hitmaker.
06:12So, like, my brother.
06:14Like, so we, I went to Miami and we did a bunch of records for the project.
06:17And then there were records that, like, I just did, you know, dolo.
06:21You know what I mean?
06:22So, it's been, like, a combination of, like, intentionally working on the album and also just records that I feel like once I come out the booth, I'm like, I'm keeping this one.
06:33You know what I mean?
06:33Because when I go in the booth, I'm going to be 100% honest with you.
06:37I have no idea what I'm about to say.
06:40Like, I don't, I haven't written a song down, I don't think, ever.
06:46You know what I mean?
06:47Like, I go in the booth and it comes straight from the hip.
06:51You know what I'm saying?
06:51Like, when I wrote Baddest for Chris Brown and Young Blue, like, was the first, the first words that came in my mouth was the hook to the song.
06:59So, I don't know.
07:02Like, the process is crazy.
07:05So, you don't have a particular process.
07:07It's just a matter of what comes to you.
07:09Yeah, what comes, what comes natural.
07:11Like, you know what I'm saying?
07:12And I feel like somebody told me this a long time ago, and I hate that I can't remember who it was, but your first idea, most of the time, is your best idea in music.
07:22Because it's coming from a more natural place without, you know, real thought.
07:27Like, you're not really trying to overthink it because music is a feeling.
07:30It's more than what you hear.
07:32It's how you feel it when you hear it.
07:34So, you know, I've been successful at that.
07:36You know what I'm saying?
07:37Like, shooting from the hip.
07:38And my experience and my life experience helps me to be able to do that.
07:42You know what I mean?
07:43What I've been through, you know what I'm saying, what I've experienced in my life, it helps me to regurgitate it much easier than, you know, the average person.
07:51I'm a former music producer, so I get it from the music angle as far as, like, the feeling and things of that nature.
07:59Now, what led you to have a career or pursue a career in music?
08:04Man, like, I've always been super inspired by songwriters and people behind the scenes, like, to start off.
08:14Like, I was so inspired by, you know, The Dream.
08:18I was so inspired by Neo.
08:20I was so inspired by my love, my mom's love for Babyface.
08:23You know what I mean?
08:24Like, I was so inspired, you know, by people that were behind the scenes because I felt like, you know, those were the real talents.
08:31Those were the people that were really coming up with ideas.
08:34It's so crazy because I realized the day before yesterday, because, you know, I've been doing a lot of interviews and I was like, I get this question a lot.
08:42Like, when did I really fall in love with the idea of writing a song?
08:46And it's crazy because I remember watching The Five Heartbeats and watching the little, the brother writing with his little sister.
08:58And, like, they were in the room and he's, like, writing the lyrics down and he's, like, balling it up and they're trying to come up with the perfect song.
09:06You know what I mean?
09:07And I was, like, I was so, like, my mom used to play that movie, like, all the time, bro.
09:12Like, and I used to just be, like, man, I want to write a song, you know?
09:15And I just fell in love with it.
09:17I just, I don't remember when I started, but I know for a fact, like, that was one of the pivotal moments, for real.
09:24Now, you did mention at the dinner that, like, I want to go into, because I know it partially inspired you as far as your family.
09:37And I know that you don't have the idea, like, story that people are like, oh, this, this, that, and the other came with this, that, and the other.
09:45Yeah.
09:45I want you to let people know, like, what you told us the other night, as well as how does that drive you to write the type of songs that you write when the type of thought comes to your mind?
09:58Because I know everything in the past.
09:59Yeah, you know, for sure.
10:01Like, you know, growing up, you know, as a child, you know, in poverty, you know, on the south side of Chicago, you know, my dad, you know, was an active drug user.
10:11You know, my mom was in and out of my life, you know, like, I had so much turmoil, you know, in my life where I had no structure.
10:19And, like, music was, like, my happy place, man.
10:22Like, I would, like, put the headphones on, teach myself how to play the piano, put the headphones on, and tap into, you know, my favorite music artist.
10:30Because it was my escape from reality.
10:33You know, my reality a lot of times was no dinner.
10:35You know, my reality a lot of times was no lights.
10:39You know, my reality was, like, sleeping in my coat because it was too cold and we ain't had no heat.
10:43You know, my reality, you know, was walking to school and slides and four inches of snow.
10:48Like, you know what I'm saying?
10:49Like, that was my reality, you know.
10:52But music allowed me to express, you know, different parts of within me and different parts of happiness in me.
10:58And it just helped me, you know what I'm saying, to be able to, like, really, like, express.
11:03And it's just, you know, a lot of times, you know what I'm saying, like, looking back at my life and what I've been through in my life, you know, I know for a fact that, you know, God has had favor on my life, bro.
11:15Like, you know, there's no way I could be where I am or where I'm going, you know what I'm saying, if it wasn't for the grace of God.
11:22Because most people that come from where I come from either end up dead or in jail, you know what I'm saying?
11:27And even my brothers are an example of that, you know what I'm saying?
11:31And so I'm just, you know what I'm saying?
11:33Like, it's favor, man, on my life.
11:37Yeah.
11:37And the reason why I wanted you to touch on it, because I want to give you props, because as you definitely know, and I know from, you know, my upbringing, and, like, my life has been great.
11:48So I'm not even going to try to claim that, like, I had that type of upbringing, but I have friends and family that have that took a completely different direction.
11:58So from, like, I was touched when you mentioned that the other night, because I'm like, you took whatever it was and made it work for you, as opposed to using it as an excuse.
12:06And I definitely, like, honestly, like, it's so, even though, like, you know, my upbringing was so, you know, dark and, like, just, like, you know, hurtful and a struggle.
12:21You know what I'm saying?
12:22Like, I'm so grateful.
12:24You know, I can't even express how grateful I am to have went through something.
12:29You know what I'm saying?
12:29Because it made me who I am.
12:31It made me see things the way I see things.
12:33It made me more sharper.
12:35You know, it made me more paranoid.
12:37It made me more, you know what I'm saying, like, sufficient.
12:40It made me more hungry.
12:42You know, I don't feel like if I didn't go through any of the stuff that I went through, I don't know if I wouldn't be the same person.
12:48And I feel like sometimes, you know, God, you know, puts you through things and allows you to go through things in order for you to become a light for someone else.
12:59You know what I'm saying?
13:00Like, you know, it's a young black kid, you know, somewhere going through exactly what I was going through not too long ago.
13:08You know, it's somebody without heat right now.
13:10Right now.
13:11You know, it's somebody without lights right now.
13:13You know, it's somebody that's struggling, don't know when their next meal's coming.
13:17Don't know, you know, where they're going to sleep.
13:20You know, and it's like if I could be a voice for those people alone, you know, I'm happy.
13:26I feel like, you know, that's my purpose in life.
13:28So I'm going to use this music as the gateway to get my voice and to be heard in that aspect.
13:35And I applaud you once again.
13:37Now, I know there are some people here that probably don't know what mud means because, you know, we all grew up in different neighborhoods.
13:44Everyone has different expressions.
13:46And the name of your album is mud.
13:47So let the people know why you named it mud and what the mud mean, your interpretation.
13:54Because, like I said, there are people in different sections of the country that might not have the lexicon of mud within them.
14:01So you can let them know.
14:03Yeah, you know, mud is, you know, it's coming, you know, it's about coming from the struggle, you know, getting out the mud, you know, turning dirt into diamonds, you know.
14:12You know, I think of like when I think of mud, you know, I think of, you know, the letters M-U-D, you know, I think of like, you know what I'm saying?
14:19It's like motivation under duress, you know what I'm saying?
14:21Motivated under duress, you know, I had to like strive for something, you know, under duress, under, you know, stress, under, you know, turbulence.
14:30And, you know, that's what mud, you know, really means like to me.
14:34That's cool.
14:36So now that your album is out and I'm pretty sure that you're still working, what goes through your mind when it comes to still working as a songwriter
14:49and now officially, not to say that you weren't a recording artist before, but a recording artist with an actual project out.
14:57So what goes through your mind now because now it's like you're on a different level, not saying higher or lower, but because now you have a good role now.
15:05Yeah, I mean, it's, you got to, I feel like, you know, an important thing with anything is like you got to find a common balance.
15:12You know, it's like, you know, everything is like a chapter and I'm not saying that like songwriting was a chapter and it's like over.
15:21When I get so busy as an artist that I can't go do sessions and write records for other artists, then that time will come.
15:29But as of right now, I still, you know what I'm saying, I still probably got 50 songs in the pipeline to come out, you know, as a songwriter.
15:36You know what I mean? Like, there's so many different energies, you know, within me as a writer that like a lot of times I couldn't express, you know, as an artist because it don't match with my image, it don't match with who I am.
15:50But I could definitely get into those bags. I can write for Madonna, you know, I wouldn't drop a record as Ivy Scott, a Madonna record as Ivy Scott.
15:58So it helps me channel that energy. So I'll always write songs, you know, you know, as long as I can, you know what I mean?
16:05But, you know, only God knows.
16:08You mentioned image. And I know that one of the things you stated at the dinner was that you appreciated working with your label because and as you've heard and as there's many, many stories over the years where artists are like they wanted me to be this artist or they wanted me to be this way.
16:24But you acknowledged that you were able to be who you are. How does that feel knowing that there were other artists that can't do that, that have a certain talent that a record label kind of dictates, but you said you had the freedom.
16:40How did that make you feel when it came to your approach with recording the album and just songwriting in general?
16:45Yeah, I feel like honestly, bro, like I feel so free. You know what I mean?
16:51Like, it's like I've always like ran into situations where I've always ran into situations where I couldn't like fully be myself, where it's like, you know, people say, give me the rapper tag.
17:05Oh, he's a rapper or they give me the tag. Oh, he's an R&B artist or give me the tag.
17:10Like, you know, there was a time where I was doing pop rock music. You know what I mean?
17:13Like, so it's like I don't ever want to be put in a box and I feel like no artist should be put in a box.
17:20I feel like, you know, Picasso was never put in a box, you know, but somehow because we created genres to monetize it and to separate it, it's like it breaks the artist up to say, yo, I can't be.
17:33You know, I always say I want to be the first artist that's number one in all genres because, you know, I can't, you know, it's not like I'm faking like I could, you know, rap.
17:43I'm not faking like I could, you know, do R&B. It's like it's really what's coming from me.
17:47It's really what I'm inspired by. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, that's that's that's super important to me.
17:54And I, you know, I'm so grateful, you know, I'm saying like to my label, you know, to J.Y. seeing it in me.
18:01Like I said, like I was signed off demos. You know what I mean?
18:04Like I got my my artist deal off of him listening to my demos and saying like, man, this kid needs to be an artist.
18:11And most, you know, execs would look away instantly and say, hey, he's all over the place.
18:18You know what I mean? But I feel like I captured in this project a lot of elements.
18:23I'm not going to say all the elements, because, like I said, art is art.
18:27But I captured a lot of different elements that I found a way to mesh it and make it seem seamless.
18:32And I feel like that was important for, you know, being accepted, you know, as an artist that is very diverse.
18:39As a songwriter, do you have any people that you not necessarily look up to, but may look for inspiration as far as fellow songwriters?
18:49Even if it's no one you know or from the past, are there any that come to mind?
18:56Yeah, for sure. Like, it's so crazy because, like, a lot of my peers, like fellow songwriters, like Hitmaker, Christian, Derek Milano, London Jay.
19:07Like a lot of the artists that I work with, you know, I mean, the songwriters that I have worked with, you know what I'm saying?
19:14Like, hold on, bro. A lot of the songwriters that I do work with, that I have worked with is, you know what I'm saying?
19:21Like, we all, like, are cohesive, you know what I'm saying? But I learned a lot from, like, them as far as their, the rate that they work.
19:29You know what I'm saying? I've sharpened my sword based off, like, the things that they've done, the things that I've seen them do.
19:35Cool. What, if, for somebody who's looking at you right now and wants to be a songwriter slash artist,
19:42what advice would you give them in order to, for them to become successful or at least get a head into the game?
19:52Man, honestly, the best advice I can give any songwriter is to outwork the opposition, you know?
19:59Like, I didn't wake up one day a great songwriter. You know, I write 10 songs a day, bro. Still, today.
20:06Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm in the studio right now. Like, you know what I'm saying?
20:08Like, you have to outwork the opposition. Like, I've been a part of so many big records, and I just, you know,
20:14it's like when a producer sends me a pack of one beat, you know, it lets me know, tells me everything I need to know about them.
20:21You know what I mean? Because it's like, you have to be able to outwork, you know, this is competing.
20:27This is a sport, you know? So, if, you know, any advice that I can give them, you know what I'm saying?
20:32Keep your head down, and also be authentic. You know, people connect with real more than, you know, fake any day.
20:40You know, be truly who you are, and be authentic in your music, and it'll shine through.
20:45Let me go back to the album for one second.
20:50Several questions.
20:52Yeah.
20:53Who else is featured on the album?
20:55I got my brother, 2 Chainz, Young Blue, my sister Tink, Queen Nyjah, my brother Kevin Gates.
21:04It's, you know, I got, it's pretty heavy, bro. I'm blessed, bro. I can't, like, for this to be my debut album, it has such heavy features.
21:10Exactly. Exactly.
21:12Man, crazy.
21:15So, I've spoken to artists in the past, and I know they hate this question, because they probably get asked this all the time.
21:22What are your favorite songs on the album?
21:26Oh, my gosh.
21:28Oh, man, dude, I change every day.
21:33Like, it's so crazy, because, like, sometimes I might wake up, and I might just be in a mud trauma mood, or I might be in a believe mood, or I might be in a money money on his mood.
21:44I might, so it changes every day, bro.
21:46But the one thing that I could say, you know, about this album is it's a song for every day.
21:52It's a song for every mood that you could possibly be in.
21:55You know what I'm saying?
21:55You might not feel like, you know, being all motivated.
21:58You know what I'm saying?
21:59You might feel like just having a good time.
22:01It's a record for that.
22:02You know, you might be vibing with your girl.
22:04You might just need a record to vibe with your girl.
22:06It's a record for that.
22:07You know what I mean?
22:07So it's a record for every type of day, and that's what I wanted my first project to be.
22:12You know, I feel like as I grow as an artist, I'll zoom in more to certain topics and have certain projects that are focused, you know what I'm saying, on certain things.
22:21But I feel like this was a taste, you know, for everybody to be like, man, this dude can really play in all courts.
22:27Not to put pressure on you, but what would you consider to be a success as far as your career within 10, 15, 20 years?
22:41Like what – I'm interviewing you 20 years later.
22:45Like what have you done or what is it that you see on your plate?
22:50And, of course, we know in life things can go in any different directions, but we also have goals, inspiration, dreams of that nature.
22:56Where do you – what would you label success if you can look 20 years ahead of time and know that you've done so much or done certain things?
23:06What would – and I know it's a hard question.
23:08No, it's actually an easy question.
23:10I'm not going to lie to you.
23:11It's an easy question.
23:13You know, I feel like, you know, what I see success as is putting, you know, not just the people around me in position,
23:22but affecting generations, changing lives outside of my own circle, changing lives.
23:28You know, that's success.
23:29You know, the accolades, man, I have so many plaques in my house, so many awards, so many trophies.
23:35You know what I'm saying?
23:36And it's great.
23:37You know, I remember there was a time in my life where I was like, man, I just want one plaque.
23:42I just want one platinum plaque or one gold plaque.
23:45And when I think about it, I can't even order plaques fast enough right now.
23:49You know what I mean?
23:50And it's like – so the awards and the trophies and the money and all the accolades, they're going to come regardless.
23:57But, you know, success to me is being a general and being, you know, the person to put people in position.
24:06You know, so when I sit back and I'm looking at, you know, all the people that I've put in position to change their lives
24:12and change generations and families and break generational curses and things like that, like, that's success to me.
24:20That's success to me.
24:22I know I have limited time with you.
24:24I just – wait.
24:26I have so many notes, and I just skipped over something I saw.
24:28I was just about to ask.
24:30Oh, now we know in this industry that sometimes you either have to or you want to do a different or another hustle.
24:39Is there anything that you would want to do outside of music, whether it's acting, whether it's fashion, whether it's construction?
24:48Is there anything that you can see yourself doing as your career?
24:53Because, like I said, we all know people that have multiple things going on.
24:57Have you ever thought about doing anything outside of music?
24:59Not besides music, but outside of music.
25:01Man, I think about doing everything.
25:05Like, honestly, bro, acting – I mean, look, this is what I always say.
25:10If one man could do it, I could do it.
25:12You know what I mean?
25:13So I don't put no limitations on my life, man.
25:16I could become – like I always say, like, when I retire, I want to be a pilot and fly planes and shit like that.
25:24But, like, so it's like I don't – as long as I'm on this earth, I'll forever try new things and I'll forever, you know, explore, you know, because I feel like that's what we're here for.
25:33So there's no limitations, bro.
25:35Beyond music, who knows what we might be doing next, man.
25:38We might be on the moon.
25:40Cool.
25:40Okay, well, any suggestions, advice, words of wisdom, anything you want to give your audience or just to say before you go?
25:53Yeah, man, keep God first.
25:54Everything else will follow.
25:56Definitely.
25:57I definitely appreciate your time.
25:59And like I said, I enjoyed the music.
26:02I enjoyed your presence.
26:03And one thing, because I've been in the industry for a couple of years, and I usually vibe off of energy outside of talent because we have a lot of people in this industry, so I don't want to be involved.
26:17And I immediately wanted to talk to you because I felt your vibe and I felt like – I felt the positiveness that we need to experience as well as the talent.
26:30And I'm happy that, you know, less than a week later I was able to talk to you because sometimes, you know –
26:35I'm glad we did, for sure.
26:37Exactly.
26:38I'm glad, bro.
26:39I appreciate much luck in everything you do.
26:43Hope the album does what it needs to do.
26:45I hope the next 17 songs you do outside the album will become platinum hits.
26:50And like I said, that you get everything that you want to get and enjoy life, you know?
26:57I appreciate it always, bro.
27:00I appreciate it.
27:02No problem.
27:03Once again, big sad.
27:06And out.
27:09If I can find the button.
27:13Peace, people.
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