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A confrontation between INDIA bloc Members of Parliament and the Election Commission of India unfolded on the streets of Delhi concerning the special intensive revision of voter lists. A protest march from Parliament to the EC headquarters was obstructed, leading to detentions and instances of MPs scaling barricades. The Opposition alleges widespread irregularities in voter lists, framing it as a constitutional struggle and a fight for 'one man, one vote'. The conflict centers on the EC's demand for a signed affidavit to authenticate data presented by the Opposition, a condition Congress has declined, asserting the data originates from the EC itself. This issue has become a focal point for opposition parties following a press conference by Rahul Gandhi. The allegations against the Election Commission regarding voter data irregularities escalated into a debate between the BJP and Congress. The discussion involved opposition claims of compromised electoral rolls and their call for an EC press conference, countered by the BJP's challenge to substantiate claims via affidavit, citing potential legal consequences under Section 31 of the Representation of Peoples Act 1950-51 for false declarations. Discrepancies in states including Karnataka, Maharashtra, and Bihar were raised, while the BJP noted Congress's lack of objection in states where they secured victories despite similar voter list deletions.
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00:00What a day it was, viewers, mostly outside the Parliament.
00:04Chaos, loganeering, jumping over barricades, detention, sit-in protests.
00:10Today's showdown between the opposition and the election commission played out right outside the Parliament
00:15where the opposition attempted to stage a protest march to the election commission.
00:21The strife between the EC and the opposition continues to intensify
00:25while the BJP undettered in backing the coal body.
00:30The face-off between the opposition and the election commission played out on the streets of Delhi on Monday.
00:54Escalating the showdown over the special intensive revision of voter list in Bihar
00:59which will soon be implemented across the country.
01:11India Bloc MPs took out a march from Parliament to the election commission headquarters.
01:16But the protest led by leader of opposition Rahul Gandhi was blocked by Delhi police.
01:20Despite the police barriers, several MPs, including SP chief Akhilesh Yadav, scaled the barricades.
01:34Some protesters, including TMC MP Mahua Moitra, fainted.
01:40The police later detained several MPs foiling their march.
01:43The government hit back at the opposition, calling the allegations of rigging baseless.
02:09The恐竿 – Khitash Yadav who coincided against the court,
02:13Do you know that?
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02:32We will not give time for the time of the country and the country, so we will not give time for the bill of Mehtaapur.
02:47With assembly elections in Bihar approaching, the stakes are high and the standoff between the opposition and the election commission is far from over.
02:57With Piyush Mishra, Bureau Report, India Today.
03:02Well, high drama where this protest was concerned, while there were sit-in protests, there were a few MPs that the heat got a bit too much for them.
03:15We'll play those visuals out. Mahua Moitra, TMC MP, fainted.
03:20And you had Rahul Gandhi who was actually feeding her a biscuit, some water.
03:25You had Lok Sabha MPs like Akhilesh Yadav jumping over barricades, like I said.
03:32Lots of drama, but the face-off ensues between the election commission and the Congress, which now is not just the Congress there, viewers.
03:41As you can see, the entire opposition has been galvanized by that one press conference of Rahul Gandhi.
03:48Rahul Gandhi had said that I'm going to detonate an atom bomb.
03:51What it has at least done is, somewhere down the line, got the opposition together on a rallying cause.
03:58I want to cut across right now to my colleague Rahul Gautam, who follows the Congress very closely, Aishwarya Paliwal, who tracks the election commission.
04:05Rahul, you know, it's come down to a very basic question.
04:09And I want to understand from you, what is the reason why Rahul Gandhi refuses to sign on that affidavit and undertaking,
04:19which the EC wants Rahul Gandhi to sign before it takes any investigative action?
04:24Well, the most basic reason that has been put forward by Congress party is this, that Rahul Gandhi is merely quoting election data.
04:38Why don't the election commission also, you know, organize a press conference and give a point-by-point rebuttal to all the issues that has been raised by Rahul Gandhi?
04:46Now, we have to understand, Preethi, that when was the last time when we saw Achilles Yadav jumping across, you know, a barricade?
04:56Clearly, you know, the entire opposition is up in arms.
04:59I myself spoke with Samajwadi party MPs and they said that we have already given 1,800 affidavits, you know, pertaining to 22 assembly polls of Uttar Pradesh.
05:10And we haven't got any responses from election commission.
05:12Opposition is convinced that there is a, you know, vote-chory happening and mandate is being stolen from opposition bloc.
05:19So, they are pretty convinced and therefore Rahul Gandhi and Congress party, and remember, election commission had also asked them to come and join for a meeting at 12 noon, you know, this afternoon.
05:32They asked for 30 names from opposition bloc. Now, but this meeting never happened.
05:36Malika Arjun Khargay himself said that, you know, we wanted every MP to go and have a discussion with the election commission.
05:45Now, government is saying that this is not humanly possible. How can we allow 150 MLAs inside a room of a chief election commissioner?
05:51So, clearly it seems that they are up in arms and you can expect that this is only going to escalate.
05:56We have, you know, session pending. Expect that this is again going to rock both the others in the parliament as opposition is pretty convinced that the election commission is working at the behest of the BJP to give undue advantage to the ruling party.
06:10Now, before I let you go, I want to ask you one quick question. So, what's the plan now where the opposition is concerned?
06:16Because at one end, of course, there was a bit of an embarrassment of a Karnataka minister, Mr. Rajanna, who practically said that the onus also lay on the Congress.
06:24He was asked to step down. But away from that, what's right now for the Congress and the opposition? Is it limited to this march today or the days to come?
06:35They're going to see more protest, the opposition only ramping up what they call is vote chowdhury.
06:41Preeti, the issue of voter list malipunition and SIR have become a sort of a rallying point for opposition parties and they've come together. There's no doubt about it.
06:54You can expect that the kind of data that was shared by Rahul Gandhi will now be coming in from various other states as well.
07:00For example, as I was telling earlier also, Samajwadi party would likely or would maybe having a press conference and they would also be putting such documents in public domain.
07:11Similarly, other political parties will also be doing the same thing. The idea is very simple.
07:15Put evidence in public domain and let election commission to respond to these allegations.
07:21We are not going to sign any affidavits. We are not going to give any signed oath to election commission.
07:26It is election commission data. Let them come on board. Let them come, you know, and not via these public sources.
07:33They should come in a public press conference. They should give rebuttal to each and every point which has been taken or which has been raised by opposition parties.
07:41That's the only escape route you can say or that's the only option election commission has now because otherwise there's going to be relentless attacks on election commission
07:51because the opposition bloc clearly believes that the 2024 mandate has been stolen from them.
07:58So therefore there seems to be no middle ground where you can see some consensus happening between election commission and opposition bloc.
08:05All right, Rahul, appreciate you joining us. I want to bring in my colleague Aishwarya Paliwal also, who covers the election commission very closely.
08:14Aishwarya, what is the take of the EC? Why not hold a press conference like the one which Rahul Gandhi had in point by point,
08:20demolish every allegation that the Congress has made?
08:24Karpiti, let me tell you what the election commission is saying. The election commission says, okay, fine, Rahul Gandhi is an MP.
08:30He has given out certain data, but if we accept the data that has been given by him, then this will open us to other data also.
08:37Then random people will also come out and say that they also have certain data. All that they want the Congress party to do,
08:42and they are saying it's not necessarily that Rahul Gandhi needs to sign anyone from the Congress party.
08:47Even a BLA can sign and give them the data. All that they are saying is that the data has to be signed by someone and then has to be handed over to the election commission of India.
08:56Only then will the formal investigation in everything that Rahul Gandhi has said will begin. This will happen under Rule 20.
09:02They are also saying that if Rahul Gandhi does not want to sign it, then anyone else from the Congress party or the larger opposition party can actually sign it and hand it over to us.
09:10Because at the moment, it seems like if we start to sue a Mutu case, it will be like finding a needle in a haystack.
09:16We need an authentication from the Congress party or anyone from the opposition saying that, yes, we are the ones who are giving you this data.
09:22Otherwise, it seems like a cocked up data. Otherwise, it seems like they have just garnered data from anywhere.
09:28And then that's the reason why no one is willing to sign it and to hand it over.
09:33So this is a tug of war that we are seeing, Piti. Seems like status quo will remain for times to come.
09:38But you know, Ashwin, I want to ask a question in terms of the data which is in contention.
09:43Does the EC contest the data which Rahul Gandhi is quoting as not their data? Is that a contest?
09:50Well, definitely. They are saying it's not their data. In fact, let me tell you though, Karnataka CEO also gave an example and said that this lady, Shakuntala, her example was given by Rahul Gandhi.
10:00And when the election commissioner officers asked her, she said, no, she's only voted at one place.
10:05So looking at one lakh people across India, and if those people turn around and say that, no, what Rahul Gandhi is saying is not true, then what will happen?
10:13Will there be multiple FIAs that will be filed? And who will take the responsibility if that happens?
10:17Also, let me tell you very quickly, Piti, if you give out fake data, if you actually track people who are voting, then it is a punishable offence, imprisonment up to seven years.
10:26So that's also a clause that the election commission at the moment is looking at.
10:29I appreciate both Aishwarya and Rahul for joining us to give us either sides of the story.
10:35One, of course, is the Congress, which is now not just the Congress, it's the entire opposition.
10:40Because in a very long time, the opposition has found a big rallying cause, which was provided to them by the Congress by the virtue of what they call a deep investigation into one particular seat of 2020 for Lok Sabha elections, Bangalore Central, where 2024 elections were concerned.
11:00On the other hand, you have the point of view of the election commission, which says that first sign an affidavit, only at the back of that affidavit will be go ahead and launch a full investigation.
11:10To which the Congress says that Rahul Gandhi is already under oath and this is EC data.
11:16That is what the EC is contesting, which is saying that this is not our data.
11:20So interesting how it all is playing down, but let me quickly cut across because on the sidelines of an EC versus Rahul Gandhi battle is a massive political blowout which is playing up between the Bharatiya Janata Party and the opposition.
11:34And I want to cut across to our guest this evening for our political face-off.
11:37Joining me, Sanju Verma, National Spokesperson, Bharatiya Janata Party, Dr. Shama Mohammed, National Spokesperson, Congress.
11:44I'd like to begin with Dr. Shama Mohammed, primarily Dr. Mohammed, there are some grave allegations which your parties made.
11:50It's a question that I'd asked you earlier as well and let me turn around and ask you the same question.
11:55I just want to understand for the benefit of our viewers, because there might be many viewers today who are trying to figure out that,
12:01OK, the Congress has seemingly made very, very damning allegations.
12:04The opposition seems to believe that.
12:06And we want, let's say, prima facie, the EC to investigate.
12:10The larger question that people want to know, Dr. Mohammed, is why then the apprehension in signing that affidavit which the EC wants?
12:19What is the reason?
12:20If it's one signature, sign it.
12:22Let the EC conduct an investigation.
12:24Why isn't Rahul Gandhi or anyone from the Congress signing that affidavit?
12:29OK, so let me make these couple of points which you've asked me very clear.
12:33Is it you have to understand one thing is that the onus right now is on the Election Commission.
12:38We have Rahul Gandhi has done a press conference alone showing all the discrepancies.
12:44See, if it is in one assembly alone, yes, an affidavit can be signed.
12:49But if it is all over India, how can you do that?
12:52There are multiple cases where we have shown.
12:55One, of course, is the Mahathepur assembly.
12:57Then you have people in Karnataka, the same name with the voter ID.
13:02The names change.
13:03They will be in Karnataka.
13:05They will be in Odisha.
13:07Then they will be in Uttar Pradesh.
13:08Now, there was this case from Bengal.
13:11Mohammed Islam from West Bengal had the same epic ID of a lady called Sonia Devi in Haryana.
13:17So let's understand that.
13:19Then there are many houses which you go.
13:21There isn't a house.
13:22There are 210 people.
13:23It's a small house.
13:24No 210 people are there.
13:26So there are multiple things.
13:28The data is from the Election Commission.
13:30We ask them to give us the digital data.
13:32Now, when they say you go online, when you go online, you don't have photographs.
13:36So then they say, you know, we can't store it.
13:40We can't give you footage, the CCC footage after 45 days.
13:44It used to be there before, after we questioned them about Maharashtra after Haryana election,
13:49CCC footage after 45 days would be erased.
13:52Now, the Election Commission says, if we keep those footage, you will take 36 years.
13:56Now, this is highly stupid on its part because all over the world, we can keep footage in drives
14:02and we put the date of what we want and go to that particular date and we get that information.
14:07So why are they scared?
14:08So when you look at it, they are scared, not us.
14:12Simple thing, Maharashtra, 8.98 crore voters in 2019.
14:18In 2024, they become 9.28 for the Lok Sabha.
14:23So there is an increase of 31 lakh voters.
14:26But 2024 Lok Sabha, in May to October, there is an increase from 9...
14:32Dr. Mohamed, your fader is going to go down, your two minutes are up, we are going to of course come back to you.
14:37Same question again, Dr. Mohamed, because you know, just as a journalist and a lot of viewers who are watching,
14:43the basic understanding is why not sign the affidavit?
14:46Because you have already claimed and alleged that the Election Commission is compromised.
14:51The onus might be on the EC, but you've already alleged that it's a compromised body.
14:56So sign the affidavit and give them no elbow room but to investigate.
15:01That's the question which people are asking today.
15:04Who might be buying into each of your allegations?
15:06But the question remains the same.
15:08And I'll come back to you with that question.
15:10But I want to bring Sanju Verma into this conversation.
15:13Sanju Verma, the BJP has nothing to do with the Election Commission.
15:17It's an argument you have made ad nauseum on my show as well.
15:21It's an argument on the basis of which SIR today is not being discussed in Parliament
15:26because the EC is a constitutional body, has nothing to do with the Bharatiya Janta Party.
15:31Then why is it that the Bharatiya Janta spokesperson, Sanju Verma, is sitting on this chat show
15:36and defending the Election Commission, which now is facing grave allegations from the entire opposition?
15:43You know, Preeti, I'm so glad you asked me a pointed question.
15:46And my pointed rebuttal to you is this.
15:48The BJP has nothing to do with the Election Commission.
15:51Sanju Verma has nothing to do with the Election Commission.
15:53But what does Rahul Gandhi say?
15:55Election Commission is a handmaiden of the BJP.
15:59Bharatiya Janta Party or Election Commission
16:01He has repeatedly brought the Prime Minister into this entire fractious debate.
16:10He has brought in Amit Shah into this fractious debate.
16:12And he has openly declared 2020 for election.
16:17Bharatiya Janta Party has the election commission
16:22has every right to defend not just the party's standpoint,
16:27but also the election commission.
16:29Because the election commission has been dragged into this dirty narrative
16:32by a deadwood called Rahul Gandhi, point number one.
16:35And point number two, Preeti, before being the Bharatiya Janta Party spokesperson,
16:39I am a bona fide citizen.
16:41Nothing stops me from rebutting the allegations of lost machine Rahul Gandhi
16:46if he continues to demonize our institutions.
16:49I don't need to be a BJP spokesperson to defend the election commission,
16:53to defend the Supreme Court.
16:55Each time Rahul Gandhi makes reckless allegations.
16:57And I wish some journalists did the same.
17:00I am not pointing at you, but people from your cabal,
17:03who are called the Pidi journalists.
17:05Like you have Godi media, as termed by Rahul Gandhi and Cabal.
17:08But let me come to the important point.
17:10We had 64 crore people who voted in Lok Sab elections.
17:14We had 55 lakh EVM machines.
17:17We had at least 11 polling stations,
17:20assuming two BLOs per polling station.
17:23We had 22 lakh BLOs on the ground.
17:26We had 1.2 crore police officials, including CRPF, CAPF, what have you.
17:32We had 1.5 crore election commission officials and volunteers.
17:37We had 1.84 crore first time voters who took part.
17:41But Rahul Gandhi lost machine.
17:45Your fader's gone now.
17:48We won't be able to hear you.
17:49I don't know what your, my cabal is ma'am, because you said your cabal.
17:53I would reckon my cabal is a journalist who will ask questions both ways,
17:56which I agree is a rare breed nowadays.
17:58Something that many spokespersons don't encounter, especially on national television.
18:02I would reckon that's what you meant.
18:04I want to go back to Dr. Shama Mohammed.
18:06Dr. Mohammed, I'll come back on that question.
18:09Because once again, you know, there's a reason why I'm asking you this question again.
18:12Because even in the newsroom, outside, even if there are people, voters who believe all the allegations that you have made,
18:20are thinking, why don't they sign it then?
18:23Because the sheer fact that you are dithering to sign that affidavit gives reason to doubt your allegations as not your data.
18:31Because the EC says this is not our data.
18:33Because you had the CEO, election commission officer from Karnataka, who came out and, as per him, debunked the Shakun Rani example,
18:43which was given by Rahul Gandhi as a voter.
18:45So sign that affidavit.
18:47Okay, so now I have my time. First and foremost, she called my leader Deadwood.
18:51Let me tell you, the Prime Minister of India is a cartoon, who even Trump does not respect.
18:57Because Trump says, you know, instead of getting our tariffs down, every other South Asian country has it down, we have it 50%.
19:03You know, so that is what, what is Narendra Modi? A cartoon, Prime Minister of India.
19:08So don't you dare call my leader Deadwood.
19:10Now, a couple of points, which I have told you again and again.
19:12When it is one, if just, it is Mahadevpur, yes, one can sign affidavits.
19:16When it is all over India, you cannot sign.
19:18And like Rahul Gandhi said, he's already said under oath in Parliament.
19:23And the owners, again and again, is on the, why can't they do a press conference?
19:26The Election Commissioner of India sees that there is a huge amount of cheating happening.
19:31They come out and do a press conference.
19:33Like I told you, in Maharashtra, in five years, there was an increase of 35%.
19:37It was an increase of 31 lakh votes.
19:39In five months, it was 41 lakh.
19:41After 5pm, 76 lakh voters, which has never happened in the history of elections happening.
19:47SIR in Bihar, look at that.
19:49EC, the Election Commission tells Supreme Court, we will not give you the names of the 66 lakh voters who are deleted.
19:56And we will not tell you why.
19:58What is wrong with the Election Commission?
20:00The BLOs in Bihar are going back and saying, these ones are deleted.
20:05What do we do?
20:06They say, the Election Commission tells them Form 6.
20:09How can you use Form 6 when it is for new voters?
20:11So, there are a lot of discrepancies happening in SIR itself.
20:15We have understood that.
20:17So, the point here is that, why is the Election Commission of India not giving us the digital
20:24vote, voter base?
20:25Why are they scared of everything?
20:27And let's also understand the Bhatia Janta Party is the party who got in this law in which the Chief Justice of India has moved out.
20:36And they have put in the cabinet minister, the prime minister and the leader of opposition.
20:41So, they can decide who will be the Election Commission.
20:44And what we feel right now is the Election Commission is not coming out to prove what they are doing is wrong, but they just want to
20:51criticize Rahul Gandhi.
20:53Mr. Mohamed, your time is up.
20:54He won't be able to hear you.
20:55I will come back to you again.
20:56But Viyoz, I am going to just take 10 seconds and put one point out there.
20:59Both our spokespersons can use this time to personally attack each other or their leaders of respective parties.
21:05I just want to say that.
21:06Where that comes down to the prime minister of the country, he is our prime minister of the country.
21:10Where it comes down to the leader of opposition of the country.
21:12He is our leader of opposition of the country.
21:15And I would reckon we would like to respect both entities and I would expect both of you do the same.
21:21But it's your call.
21:22You can use this time whichever way you want.
21:24I want to go back to Sanju Verma right now.
21:27And Sanju Verma, the point that you were making earlier that as a citizen, you can take this on.
21:33But the fact is, Sanju Verma, you are not here as a citizen of this country.
21:36You are here as a representative and the spokesperson of the Bharatiya Janta Party.
21:41By the virtue of that fact, if you are defending the EC now, then the government doesn't have a claim in parliament to not debate SIR.
21:50Then debate SIR in parliament.
21:55Preeti, let me make one thing very clear to you.
21:58Please do not equate Rahul Gandhi with Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
22:02Leader of the opposition is not a constitutional position.
22:05And I am not saying this for you because sometimes you get defensive.
22:08But most journalists do not even know their basic homework.
22:11They say, oh, if EC is a constitutional body, even the leader of opposition is a constitutional body.
22:16So we should respect Rahul Gandhi.
22:18EC is a constitutional body.
22:19Why article 324 of the constitution?
22:22NAP is not a constitutional body.
22:24That is the first point I want to make.
22:26So Rahul Gandhi cannot just shoot and spoole.
22:28Point number two.
22:29You know why Rahul Gandhi fails to sign an affidavit?
22:32It is because for false declaration, Rahul Gandhi can face imprisonment under Section 31 of the Representation of People's Act 1950-51.
22:41Rahul Gandhi for false evidence can face imprisonment under Section 227 of the Bharatiya Nyaya Sangeeta.
22:49So I repeat, Rahul Gandhi is not just a deadwood. Rahul Gandhi is a kair. Rahul Gandhi is a bad workman who always blames his tools.
23:00And let me tell you, today you said, let's not pass, you know, personal remarks at each other's neta.
23:06Last Friday I was with the same Congress panelist who is there on your show today.
23:10And she said, Modi and Amit Shah are used to giving hate speeches.
23:15And you did not interject her.
23:17So please don't be holier than Dao Preeti, though I have tremendous respect for you.
23:21My final point is this, Telangana 22 lakh voters were deleted.
23:26The Congress party won Telangana. Rahul Gandhi had no problems.
23:304.28 lakh voters were deleted in Karnataka Assembly elections of 2023.
23:34Congress won BJP loss. Rahul Gandhi was absolutely fine with 4 lakh plus voters being deleted in Karnataka.
23:4047,000 voters were deleted in a small state like Himachal Pradesh, where the BJP's total loss margin was only 37,000 votes.
23:48BJP did not try on Preeti Chaudhary's show.
23:50But Rahul Gandhi was fine with voters being deleted in Himachal Pradesh.
23:54Basically, Rahul Gandhi wants to scape both the election committees.
23:59Alright ma'am, your time is up.
24:00You know, I'm quite sick of lectures coming in from either side, so cut it where both of you are concerned.
24:05On my show, I would recommend that nobody be insulted, whether it's a constitutional post or it's a statutory post.
24:13The leader of opposition is a statutory post.
24:16And I would like the Prime Minister of my country to not be disrespected, neither the leader of opposition.
24:22There is something called precedence as well.
24:24I'm going to leave it at that, because what I like never quite cuts on the show, and I reckon both of you understand that.
24:30So let's leave it at that.
24:31I want to bring in right now Dr. Shama Mohammed into this conversation.
24:34Dr. Mohammed, let's hark back what's happened over the weekend.
24:37You've had somebody from Karnataka, who is the Election Commission CEO, the Chief Election Officer,
24:42who has debunked an example given specifically by Rahul Gandhi, where it came down to the misuse of Form 6,
24:51where he named Shakun Rani somebody who registered twice within a month and then voted twice.
24:58That example was debunked where you've had the Karnataka CEO say that, listen, this is not our data.
25:06This is not our data.
25:08This woman in question who herself came out and said I voted only once.
25:12So leads to a larger question, Dr. Mohammed, when you don't sign an affidavit, that could very well mean that you've practically cooked up this data.
25:20No, no. See, in terms of this lady, for example, it is, for us, the EC and the Bhatia Janta Party are one.
25:28Who would have threatened her?
25:29Said, listen, you need to say you've only voted once. How do we know?
25:32Do you have any evidence of that, Preeti, of them not threatening?
25:36These people are used to doing whatever they want to win an election and all of us know about it.
25:41So, of course, they've threatened her.
25:42We have given you examples from West Bengal.
25:45We have given you examples from Haryana, from UP.
25:48Let them check all this.
25:49My question today is why are they not providing us video footage?
25:54Why are they destroying it in 45 days?
25:56Can you give me an answer, Preeti?
25:57Can this lady who sits across with her hair like this give me an answer about that?
26:01She can't.
26:02What is my question again is why is the EC being so defiant?
26:05If there is a suspicion on the EC, which is a body which is supposed to be independent and not an arm of the Bhatia Janta Party, then it's true.
26:15She talked about hate speech.
26:16It is the truth.
26:17It is the truth.
26:18Didn't he say that Muslims are termites?
26:20Tell me that.
26:21Of course he said that, Amit Shah.
26:23Isn't that a hate speech?
26:24Isn't that insulting me?
26:25So don't you dare talk because you're not worth it to sit over here and speak.
26:36My issue is that when you're signing an epidemic, it is only for one assembly.
26:40That is what the Representation of People's Act say.
26:42When it is all over India, you can't sign an epidemic.
26:45An investigation.
26:46Look what is happening in SIR.
26:47This is the beginning.
26:48This is how they start off.
26:50And they went into SIR.
26:51Tell me, why are the booth level officers when they're going and complaining, they are saying five from six.
26:58Why is the Election Commission telling the Supreme Court, we will not tell you the names of the 66 lakh voters deleted.
27:04We will not tell you the reason.
27:05Is this how the Election Commission of India is supposed to function?
27:08What about those addresses?
27:09The proof Rahul Gandhi has shown which happened to be a brewery in one of the cases where 86 people are there.
27:15Do people live in breweries?
27:17We have shown evidence by evidence.
27:20Let them come out with a press conference if they have the guts and revet Rahul Gandhi word by word.
27:27All right, ma'am, your time is up.
27:28You know, once again, stay clear from personal attacks.
27:30I think Sanju Verma's hair looks rather nice as yours, as does yours.
27:34So let's leave it at that.
27:35But I want to bring in Sanju Verma back into this conversation.
27:37Sanju Verma, your two minutes time.
27:39You know, the question can also be, let me turn this around, Sanju Verma.
27:42You're going out, the BJP is going at a lengths to defend the Election Commission.
27:48You know, it could very well have served your purpose as well.
27:51You thought you were going to get 370.
27:53What if there was voter?
27:54It doesn't really need to benefit the BJP.
27:57It could have been detrimental as well.
27:59Why are you assuming it benefited the BJP?
28:04You know, Preeti, I respect you and you said, let's not get personal.
28:07But you know, the Congress spokesperson said, you know, this lady who sits with her hair like this.
28:12I love my hair.
28:13I love my complexion.
28:14I love the way I dress.
28:15And by the way, you've gotten the Hindu-Muslim angle into this debate.
28:19Let me tell you, not Sanju Verma, not the BJP, the United Nations says,
28:249 out of top 10 terror organizations in the world have a radical Islamist DNA.
28:30So Shama Mohammed, radical Islam is a threat to global society.
28:34So please shut up next time before bringing in a communal angle into a debate,
28:38which did not need a Hindu-Muslim angle to start with.
28:41You suffer from inferiority conflicts.
28:44Now let me tell you, you're the same woman who abused Rohit Sharma.
28:47And then you started crying.
28:49Why didn't you delete your tweet?
28:50You rabid, you know, hate-monger.
28:53Now let me tell one thing, Preeti.
28:55The moot point is this.
28:57Rahul Gandhi spoke about Mahadevpura.
29:00He spoke about Bengaluru Central, which he says BJP won Dhule Assembly,
29:06Dhule Lok Sabha constituency to be precise.
29:10The BJP was leading in five out of six assembly constituencies of Dhule Lok Sabha during Lok Sabha 2024.
29:18But what happened?
29:19Finally, just in one seat in Dhule Lok Sabha, Mahadevpura Central, the Congress got 1.99 lakh votes.
29:25And the BJP lost Dhule Lok Sabha with a poor margin of 4,700 votes.
29:31Did we cry?
29:32No.
29:33And let me tell you, Preeti.
29:34In the last so many years, 14 out of 17 elections in Rai Bareilly have been won by the Congress Party.
29:4317 out of 20 elections in Ameethi have been won by the Gandhis, you know, between Rai Bareilly and Ameethi.
29:51From Indira Gandhi, Sanjay Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi, to even their acolyte Satish Sharma.
29:58Everybody won elections from these two constituencies.
30:01We've never shed tears on your show. Rahul Gandhi, learn to be a sport and stop.
30:07You know, I'm going to give both of you one one. Sometimes you think you bring in just two senior, and I'll underline that.
30:13Senior spokespersons from each party, they'll have a meaningful debate. Boy, you can be terribly wrong.
30:17But I'm going to give both of you one minute each. Feel free to attack each other and not talk about the topic at all.
30:22Dr. Mohamad, your time begins now.
30:24And with any other of the spokespersons, the Bhatia Janta Party, I do not speak in certain manner.
30:29She's a woman who keeps abusing, abusing my leader, abuses me. Just now she's a rabid hate monger.
30:35I mean, what sort of languages? She says, I'm a terrorist. What sort of language is this?
30:39I mean, I'm upset that you bring such a lady to your debates.
30:42First, you should cut her out and tell the Bhatia Janta Party that this sort of hate monger should not be got into the debate.
30:47Now, my question today, and finally, I am again saying what happened in Madaipur Assembly, where in one six we were leading.
30:55In one, suddenly they have more than one lakh votes. So there are lots of discrepancies.
31:00It is the election commission of India who should come out and give a press conference.
31:05Today, members of parliament were marching. Why did they stop them? Let them go. We are a democracy.
31:09Why is that before 2014, they could march for Nirbhaya, could be there all over the place in Delhi.
31:15We did not stop them because we believe in democracy. Here, farmers cannot march inside Delhi.
31:20Farmers were kept at the borders. And not a word of condolence by the Prime Minister of India.
31:25Now he says, I love my farmers. Ma'am, your time is up. Ma'am, your time is up. That's it. One minute.
31:30Ma'am, I'm just upset that we had to embarrass our audience to subject them to this debate, which I thought would have been a meaningful debate.
31:36One minute, Sanju Verma. Your time begins now.
31:38You know, Preeti, I just want to say one thing. If you abuse my prime minister, the whole minister, the Supreme Court, the election commission, you know, the enforcement directorate, and then you want a free pass on debate, Sanju Verma will not give you that.
31:53And Ma'am leadership does not have to take feedback of inferiority, complex-oriented Shama Mohammed, who does not have the guts to condemn radical Islam.
32:03Radical Islam, jihadi mentality to condemn karna sikhyeh, and stop making those clownish faces. You look like a fool on national television.
32:11My final point is this. The election commission has, you know, completely unraveled the lies of Rahul Gandhi, be it with respect to Aditya Srivastava, be it with respect to Shakun Rani.
32:23And my final point is, Congress has 17,549 DLAs in Bihar. It is now 11 days. Why has not a single DLA from the Congress party filed an objection to the SIR process in Bihar that shows Rahul Gandhi…
32:39All right, Ma'am, time is up and that's all the time that we have for now. Each of you have gotten exactly the same time where we began.
32:45We're sorry for our viewers. The debate clearly derailed. We're going to try and do better tomorrow with maybe something more meaningful.
32:51Thank you for joining us.
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