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00:00I thought it was good. I mean, to be able to go out in the sixth, you know, line up like that.
00:06So, you know, had to go get him, but he only gave up three hits.
00:10His fastball he spotted a lot better, which is going to be really important for him.
00:14You know, you can feel sometimes teams sitting on his changeup just because it's kind of well advertised before he goes out there.
00:19Same thing as last outing.
00:21So spotting his fastball today using his off-speed pitch too, and then all of a sudden he was getting swings and misses with his changeup.
00:27So in a game like this, you know, it's a big game for us to have to try to win a series, and he was right at the forefront of it.
00:33Now, back to Willard and Dibbs on 95.7 The Game.
00:39All right, it's Willard and Dibbs here on this Tuesday.
00:42And tell you what, it was a rough goal for the Giants last night, but not the game before that.
00:49The game over the weekend, really good and really exciting to see Carson Wisenhut get his first Major League victory,
00:57and he joins us now on the River Island's guest line.
00:59Carson, how are you doing, man?
01:02I'm doing great.
01:03Hey, nice job in New York.
01:05How did that feel?
01:07I appreciate it.
01:08I mean, it felt great.
01:09Good to get the first win, you know.
01:11Had the debut a little bit before that and got all of that.
01:14So, not out of the way because, I mean, it was a great time, but the hype of it, didn't have to worry about that anymore.
01:20And, I mean, just got to go out there and enjoy the game and have fun.
01:24Yeah, did that affect you a little bit in the home game?
01:27Like, how would you compare the two outings so far?
01:32I wouldn't say it was, like, anything crazy, but, I mean, definitely the first inning out there during the debut.
01:38Adrenaline gone, nerves were gone a little bit.
01:40But, after that, settled in, and, I mean, made a couple bad pitches in the debut that I wish I could take back.
01:46But, it is what it is.
01:47But then, you know, against the match, I felt really comfortable, really confident in everything I was throwing.
01:54So, I mean, I didn't ask for anything better.
01:56Back to the debut, just for a moment, about just the butterflies and the family.
02:01I know your dad had to fly from, I don't even know how many time zones away, 11, 14, 17, whatever it was.
02:07And, you know, you finally get all your people there, and now you have to go out and pitch?
02:12The nerves must have been, like, on a million.
02:17At first, they were, whenever I figured out that he was in the Philippines and not back at home with my mom and the rest of the family.
02:24So, trying to figure all that out.
02:25But, good thing, mom handled the rest of it, and I didn't have to worry too much about it.
02:30Carson Wisenhut joining us here on Willard and Dibs.
02:33Carson, I'd love to hear, kind of, the mental gymnastics that you've gone through the last couple seasons.
02:41Is he going to come up?
02:42When's he going to come up?
02:43Like, even Bomell, when you came up, sort of made the statement, like,
02:47we thought maybe it was going to be last year, but it turned out to be this year.
02:52What has that whole experience been like for you?
02:55I mean, it's been great.
02:59Obviously, I wanted to come up here last year and everything, but ran into some things, working on some stuff.
03:06Had a couple setbacks, but kind of trying to just not overthink things this year, trying not to do too much.
03:14So, like, this year was a lot simpler.
03:15Didn't really push too far into things like that and didn't really overthink it.
03:20I just went out there, did what I needed to do, and tried to enjoy it as much as I could.
03:24Is it frustrating having to try to show out in a league like the one that you play in in Sacramento,
03:30where it's Reno Altitude and Albuquerque Altitude, and Sacramento's 107,
03:34and so your numbers are going to be higher than they normally would be?
03:38Does that play on your mind at all?
03:41I wouldn't say it plays on the mind.
03:43Like, you definitely, it's a thought.
03:46I mean, we're in altitude pretty much in every park we play in, so, I mean, the ball flies a little more.
03:50But, I mean, it kind of teaches you how to pitch a little bit better, too,
03:54because, I mean, if the ball's going to fly, it kind of shows you, hey, keep the ball down,
03:59try and get it on the ground, don't let them hit pop flies.
04:01So, what pitches can I use in these counts to help myself and help the team?
04:06So, it's kind of a learning curve all the way around, and it's a helping factor as well.
04:11So, Carson, I know it's only been 10 innings, but so far, what's the difference with big league hitters?
04:19I would say they all have an approach.
04:23I mean, they're not all the exact same approach, but they stick to it very well.
04:27So, it's kind of you're playing that cat-and-mouse game back and forth,
04:31kind of seeing what they're looking for, and then adjusting as what I'm seeing.
04:35So, like, kind of just little things like that would probably be the biggest thing that I'm noticing so far.
04:42Do you have to change your approach as a pitcher?
04:44Because the book on you is that you have a great change-up, and now there's tape on you and film and whatnot,
04:49and so the hitters are going to kind of sit on the change-up.
04:52Does that make you think about approaching at-bats a little bit differently?
04:58I wouldn't say it would change the thought process on that.
05:02Like, it's definitely brought up in conversations, but it's more just attacking each hitter with my best stuff
05:10and kind of also knowing what their weaknesses are and, like, locations and things like that.
05:14So, like, even if they know I have a good change-up, like, that's fine, I'm still going to throw it,
05:19but I just got to pick the right times and then pick the right locations as well.
05:24So, there's a little bit of that, but not too much.
05:27Carson Wizenhut of the Giants is with us here on Weatherton-Dibs 95-7 The Game.
05:31Carson, you landed in the big leagues at, I'd say, quite an interesting week.
05:36You know, you come up and everybody's like, okay, this series is everything,
05:41and then the series doesn't go well, and the next thing you know,
05:45guys are on their way out the door at the trade deadline.
05:48How have you been able to navigate what clearly is an emotional clubhouse that you entered into?
05:56I mean, it's a little different.
05:58All these guys have been together pretty much the whole year.
06:01I'm the new guy coming in, so it's, like, it's easier that I've played spring training with most of them,
06:07so I know them pretty well, able to talk to them.
06:10But at the same time, like, yeah, we lost Raj, Stoovy.
06:14Like, it's tough because, I mean, they had a connection with everybody.
06:19They were throwing well, playing well, all that stuff.
06:21I mean, Yaz has gone great outfielder, but at the same time, it's kind of just adapting to those changes as quickly as we can
06:28and still finding ways to win.
06:30Is it a little comforting to be alongside guys who you played with earlier this year,
06:34whether it's, you know, Matos or, you know, Ragsdale, who was here for a while,
06:38and Seymour, who's back up with you?
06:40Does that make it a little bit more comfortable to be up here with the big club,
06:43knowing that you've got teammates who know you from earlier?
06:46Most definitely.
06:48It makes it easier.
06:49I mean, I played in spring training.
06:52I was around all these guys, but it's kind of split time.
06:55They're doing their stuff, getting ready for the season, things like that.
06:57I'm doing what I need to do, and then now we're all up here.
07:00So you get more time together.
07:02But having Seymour around that I've played with the past two years, I mean, Matos,
07:07I've been around him plenty, but definitely makes it a little more comforting, a little easier.
07:11Tim's mentioned it earlier, your change-up is, you know, according to the reports and whatnot,
07:17this is your big pitch, right?
07:19So take us through the evolution of that pitch.
07:21When did you know that you had something special, and then how has it evolved?
07:27I would say in high school was when I realized, like, it was a pretty decent pitch.
07:34And so it was – I've had the same grip from my freshman year of high school to now.
07:39But getting into college was whenever seeing metrics, numbers, different things on it like that
07:47was when I realized it was a solid pitch, and, like, I knew I could throw it pretty comfortably
07:53whenever I wanted to, depending if it was a lefty or righty, it didn't matter.
07:57So it was kind of just one of those pitches that I trusted probably the most.
08:01And so I never really thought about it or tried to do too much with it.
08:05I could just go out there, like, catch with it, throw it, not think about it,
08:08and I tried to tweak with it, and I knew out of hand what the difference was
08:12between a good one and a bad one.
08:16Never really changed a whole lot from high school on with that grip
08:21or anything like that, honestly.
08:23Yeah, pun intended, never changed a lot.
08:25I wonder if you had a change-up role model because, you know,
08:28Trevor Hoffman might be a little bit before your time.
08:31He's known as one of the great change-up throwers of all time.
08:34Did you look at a pitcher as you were coming up and say, yeah, that change-up,
08:38that's what I want?
08:40Honestly, no.
08:42The deciding factor, so, like, when I was before high school,
08:47I wasn't allowed to throw a curveball or a slider.
08:50So change-up was always my out pitch.
08:52I never really mimicked anybody or watched video on anybody else.
08:56It was, hey, let's find a second pitch that I can throw to get out.
09:00And it was a change-up, so it kind of stuck.
09:02So I just kind of learned and got comfortable with it the more as I threw it
09:06and tweaked it as I got older.
09:08It turned into what it is now.
09:10So, Carson, like, no influences or people that you patterned your game after.
09:15I don't know if you know this, but Kyle Haynes from the organization last week,
09:20we had him on the day you were about to start.
09:22And he goes, you know, if you squint real hard,
09:26you could maybe hope that Carson would develop into a career like Cole Hamels
09:30or Johan Santana.
09:33How does that grab you?
09:34Or are there other names you look at?
09:37I mean, Cole Hamels, I've watched him pitch plenty of times.
09:42I mean, growing up, Kershaw was one of those guys.
09:44I mean, Robbie Ray.
09:47Favorite pitcher growing up, obviously, I mean, was Randy Johnson.
09:50But I never really mimicked anything that they were doing other than kind of like mindset
09:55because, I mean, they all just went out there.
09:57Even if they didn't have their best stuff, they were attacking the zone,
10:00trying to get out, trying to help the team win.
10:02So that's kind of the main focus that I was looking for.
10:05You mentioned Robbie Ray, and you're also pitching alongside Justin Verlander,
10:09who probably was a major leaguer when you were a newborn.
10:13What's it like, you know, pitching alongside a couple of guys who are veterans
10:17and who have been doing this a long time?
10:19I mean, it's great.
10:20Obviously, like, growing up, Verlander, I mean, I think he debuted in 2005,
10:26something around that time.
10:28I mean, I would have been four years old when he was debuting.
10:31So I grew up watching him pitch.
10:33I mean, same thing with Robbie.
10:36I mean, it's great being able to talk with them, kind of pick their brain
10:39and see how much the game's changed over the years.
10:41And we were talking about that the other day of, like, just how different the time frame is now
10:48compared to, like, what it used to be with guys and how they kind of approach the game.
10:52Carson Wisenhut is with us on Withered and Dibs.
10:55All right, Carson, you know, when people think of crafty lefty,
10:59immediately what comes to mind is that, you know, they're half a cup of crazy.
11:04I mean, do you lean into that?
11:07Do you have some quirkiness to you?
11:09Or do you not like that kind of labeling?
11:14Honestly, I don't really dive into that too much.
11:17It doesn't really bother me.
11:18I've had that said a couple times about me, but I don't think I am.
11:25It's pretty much I'm just – when I'm out there on the mound,
11:28it's a completely different mindset for me.
11:30So, like, I don't realize most of the time.
11:33But I kind of just try not to focus on anything but the game
11:37and try to help the team win.
11:39How would you describe the mindset?
11:41Dom Smith was on with our morning guys today,
11:43and I heard him talking about the starting pitchers
11:46and what they do getting ready for each day.
11:50You know, and that Logan Webb's just like, let's play music for everybody.
11:54Verlander might be headset on, totally locked in.
11:57How do you do it, and what's your mindset?
12:01I mean, before games, I try to lock in about an hour before.
12:09Like, any time before that, I'm just hanging out,
12:11talking with the guys, trying to relax.
12:13But then about an hour or so before the game is kind of when I turn that switch
12:19a little bit and it's kind of time to focus
12:21and not really talk as much, so to speak, with the guys.
12:27But any other day, it's just a normal day.
12:30So, I'm hanging out, talking, stretching, doing all my stuff.
12:34So, I mean, the mindset changes a little bit once it's time to, like, play catch,
12:38get ready for the games and anything like that.
12:40But I don't really dive too much into all that.
12:44Are you a music guy when you're going to make the start?
12:46And, you know, when you get out of the mound, what's the song that you want to hear
12:49as you trot out from the dugout and you get the ball and you start to go through your warm-ups?
12:55Yeah, I mean, I listen to music.
12:57I really only listen to country music, though, so it kind of depends.
13:00But I'm not very superstitious.
13:03Like, whatever's on in the locker room, it's kind of what I'm going to listen to.
13:07It doesn't really matter.
13:08But if I need to, I'll put in my headphones or whatever and go into the weight room and do it that way.
13:15But for the walkout song, I use Whitehorse, but I think I'm going to change it.
13:21I haven't decided what I'm going to change it to yet, but I've got a couple options.
13:25But we'll see which one I land on.
13:28Carson, who are your artists, and do you know that you missed the Morgan Wallen show
13:31here in the Bay Area over the weekend?
13:35I did.
13:36Wish I could have been there.
13:38But growing up, I listened to kind of older country.
13:43So, I mean, my favorite artist is Travis Tritt.
13:47So, I mean, you've got George Tritt, all those guys as well.
13:50I mean, you've got a lot of great older artists.
13:52But, I mean, the new guys, I don't listen to a ton of the stuff.
13:55I mean, Cody Johnson, Zach Topp, all those guys.
13:59Like, there's a couple other songs that I'll listen to.
14:02But, I mean, I kind of just mix in different things here and there.
14:05All right, Carson, we're going to let you get ready for the game,
14:08but we want to get to know you a little bit before you go.
14:10You ready for the big finish here?
14:12Let's do it.
14:13Okay, two categories.
14:14You pick one, and then we'll ask questions off of that.
14:18Do you want to do Wiz-Erd of Oz or change it up?
14:26Change it up.
14:27Change it up.
14:27Okay.
14:28What is the most radical hairstyle or facial hair you've ever gone with?
14:35Oh, man.
14:36Okay.
14:38So, what year was that?
14:40It would have been in 23, I want to say.
14:46I had a goatee, and we were in low A at the time,
14:53and I had a bet with somebody.
14:55It was about a number of strikeouts or however many innings I went,
14:58but I ended up losing the bet,
15:00and they got to pick whatever my facial haircut or my haircut was going to be,
15:04and I would keep it.
15:05And they were like, hey, we're going to shave out the middle of the goatee
15:11and just leave the handlebar mustache.
15:15And so, I had it.
15:16Well, then I had, like, a month or a couple weeks stretch where I threw really well,
15:21so I couldn't cut it.
15:23And then I ended up getting called up to high,
15:25and I still had the same goatee, like, mustache look going,
15:29and I was like, yo, I've got to shave this off.
15:32And they told me I wasn't allowed to until I threw, like, until I had a bad outing.
15:38And so, I get up to high, and I took my first picture with that mustache,
15:44and I was like, yo, this is a terrible look.
15:48Well, there is a Giants legend, Rod Shooterbeck, rest in peace,
15:52who had that exact same look, a Giants closer from back in the 90s in the 00s.
15:57Oh, yeah, I mean, as soon as I got to high and everybody saw that picture,
16:02that's the comments that I started getting was comparing to him.
16:07And I was like, I mean, it's pretty cool, but at the same time, I was like,
16:10yo, this has to go.
16:11I look terrible.
16:12Right.
16:13It's almost to the point where you're looking to give up six runs in the second inning
16:17just to trim that.
16:19Question number two, how big of a change is it to go from North Carolina to California?
16:24I mean, it's a drastic change, but, I mean, I've been out in California area for,
16:32what, three years now, and I've kind of gotten used to it.
16:36It's a little different, but, I mean, I keep the same kind of thoughts
16:40and everything I do about North Carolina.
16:41I mean, I still wear jeans and boots around, all that kind of stuff.
16:44So, I mean, you kind of get used to it, but at the end of the year,
16:47I'll go back to North Carolina and still get my fix of that side.
16:51All right, Carson, last one.
16:54Carson Wisenhunt is with us here.
16:56What rule in baseball, or any other sport for that matter,
17:00would you most like to see changed?
17:04Wow.
17:06I kind of wish pitchers could hit again.
17:11I like that.
17:12Yeah.
17:13Were you a good hitter?
17:14I mean, I want to say I was.
17:19Well, and I don't think I was that bad.
17:21I don't want to max prep stock you, but I was looking at your numbers.
17:24It might have been your senior year, but you had three homers
17:27and an OPS of 1,000 for a team that was nationally ranked in high school.
17:32Yeah, I mean, it wasn't terrible.
17:36I mean, I would love to hit again.
17:37And, I mean, truthfully, I don't think I would get a hit off of what these guys
17:41are throwing now, but I'd still like to get in the box and try.
17:45I mean, once upon a time, a left-hander from North Carolina
17:47became a pretty famous giant.
17:49He could hit the ball a pretty long way.
17:51I'm sure you know who Madison Bumgarner is.
17:54Oh, I do.
17:55Yeah.
17:56So, I'm just saying, I feel like we should get a chance at that again.
18:01How do you feel about the idea of robo-umps, though,
18:03while we're at the idea of change?
18:05I mean, it's kind of a love-hate relationship.
18:10I understand the thought behind it, but at the same time,
18:14it's taken away the art of catching and things like that.
18:19I personally would rather just do the challenge system.
18:23I mean, if you're going to do it with a robo-ump,
18:25it kind of takes away the point of having a catcher other than people running.
18:31I'm not a super fan of it, if I'm being honest.
18:35I think that's a fair answer.
18:37Carson, great to get to know you a little bit.
18:39Thank you so much for the time.
18:41Congrats on the first win, and we look forward to more.
18:45Absolutely.
18:46I appreciate it.
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