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00:00A CIDADE NO BRASIL
00:30I'm after the person that did this. This is personal.
00:33And later, a convicted sex offender is on the run.
00:38He's a sociopath. No child or woman needs to be put through what he puts people through.
00:45And he's using social media to go on the attack.
00:50I'm not a pedophile. And I know that.
00:52Every word that's ever come out of that guy's mouth, he's lying.
00:55Going so far as to say I don't exist. Wow, what a slap in your face.
01:00MUSIC ROGERS
01:29Eu sou John Walsh, e esse é In Pursuit.
01:38Olivia Vigil era um sonho, um fotógrafo, nascido em México,
01:42e decidiu ser um cidadão estadunidense, uma das primeiras em sua família.
01:47E na noite de 22 de junho de 2014,
01:51essa mulher 21 anos foi apenas semanas atrás de perceber o sonho.
01:56Instead, a família woke up to a nightmare.
02:07On June 22, I remember waking up to my mother,
02:11asking me if I could wake up my sister,
02:14because it was almost time for her to get ready to work.
02:19I went to my sister's room, and I knocked on the door.
02:22And I didn't get a response.
02:27My first thought was that maybe she was trying to ignore us in order to sleep in more.
02:33So I went back to sleep.
02:38A few hours later, Olivia's mother, Blanca, returns to check on her daughter.
02:43Blanca and Karina try Olivia's door, but again, they're met with silence.
03:14When we didn't get a response, I started getting worried.
03:18We had the idea of taking the back door and going around the house to the backyard
03:25to look inside her room.
03:28When we approached the window, the first thing I noticed was that the AC unit was in her window,
03:34and the curtains were off.
03:39Me acerque yo a la ventana y vi a mi hija recostada en la cama.
03:45Como yo la vi recostada en la cama, pensé que solo estaba dormida.
03:48We decided to push the window open to get into the room and try to nudge her.
03:55My mom was just trying as hard as she could to get some kind of response.
04:07My mom couldn't stop crying and yelling.
04:19She had no idea what had happened.
04:23And I had to step back because deep down in me, I knew it was a bad sign.
04:29Karina and her mother immediately dial 911, desperate for help.
04:57When we were on the phone call with the responders, they instructed us to do CPR on her.
05:06But I knew that it was too late.
05:09We were just in shock.
05:14We just wanted to know that it wasn't real.
05:17It hadn't happened.
05:18When first responders arrive, it's clear there's nothing they can do.
05:25They immediately call in homicide detectives.
05:28When I first arrived on the scene, the house is a little disarray, but nothing unusual.
05:33But as soon as you open Olivia's door, there was the smell of bleach.
05:37Almost like somebody just smacked you in the face with it.
05:40Her body had been covered by a towel, but it was obvious that she was nude underneath.
05:47There were pillows tossed about the room, as well as just an overall disarray.
05:52Alivia had an abrasion on the left side of her face, as well as another small abrasion near her forehead.
06:03She had some white foam around her nose, which she told me it was dyslexia.
06:08Somebody had choked her.
06:08Upon learning that someone deliberately killed Alivia, her family is in a state of shock.
06:19It didn't make sense to me.
06:21I didn't think it could have been so close to our family in our own home.
06:30I'm sorry.
06:31And when word gets out about Alivia's murder, her community is heartbroken over a loss of life with so much promise.
06:46My sister, Alivia, was born in Monterrey, Mexico, but at the age of four, she moved to Houston with my mother.
06:54My sister, Alivia, was an artist, and her goals were to travel, to take pictures.
07:04Alivia was in the process of obtaining her appointment to arrange her papers.
07:14Alivia's goals were to earn that citizenship in order to be more independent.
07:20She was looking forward to growing up.
07:22As the family tries to come to terms with their loss, homicide detectives begin processing the scene.
07:32So I look at Alivia. Hair is messed up, looks almost wet.
07:36We knew there was bleach on the body. Bleach is known to destroy DNA.
07:40Whatever happened to her, somebody tried to cover it up.
07:43She was left naked and defamed in this manner for her family to find.
07:48And that's what it hit me. This is personal.
07:54The initial questions that we started to ask ourselves were who were her relationships with and who were the last people that she was seen with.
08:03It doesn't take long for police to come up with a name.
08:09Detective Ferguson and I, we were given Carlos Torres' name as Alivia's on-again, off-again boyfriend.
08:15June 21st, I remember Alivia telling me that she was going out with Carlos and she just said that they were just going to go out.
08:27And then I got invited to go out with friends.
08:31When I got home, I could see Carlos' charger parked in the driveway.
08:37Her lights were still on and I assumed they were still in there hanging out.
08:42That morning, Carlos' car wasn't there.
08:46The first person in my mind we got to talk to is Carlos Torres.
08:50Last one seen with her, last one with her.
08:53When detectives contact Torres to deliver the news that his girlfriend was murdered, his reaction is anything but ordinary.
08:56When speaking to him on the phone, he told us that he was eating dinner and watching a football game and that he would get back to us later.
09:17I can't imagine why that would take precedence over trying to help us solve his girlfriend's death.
09:25So that certainly rang the alarms.
09:30Later that night, Carlos makes an appearance at headquarters and confirms he was with Alivia that evening.
09:38It's our job ultimately for them to tell us a story.
09:41I personally don't care what story it is.
09:43And my job is to find the evidence and either prove that story or disprove that story.
09:48Carlos informed us that he and Alivia, they had dinner together, went out for a night of drinks with friends of his, and they bar hopped until last call was made at 2 a.m.
10:06He originally says that he gets back to her house around 3 a.m.
10:10Bars close at 2 a.m.
10:13From Midtown to her house is no more than 20, 25 minutes.
10:17First flight.
10:18Timelines don't match.
10:20Carlos tells us that he had already arranged with his friend Eder to go to his house after dropping off Alivia.
10:28Carlos said he got to Eder's house at 3.45.
10:30It was suspicious that he omitted what appeared to be approximately 40 to 50 minutes that he could not account for.
10:41It came off completely unconcerned, not only of the fact of him having two homicide detectives talking to him, but really unconcerned on Alivia's death.
10:52It's at this point, I knew who I was going after, just didn't have the evidence yet.
10:58Carlos Torres may be investigators prime suspect in the murder of Alivia vigil, but there's a hitch. He appears to have an alibi.
11:19Carlos said he got to Eder's house at 3.45, and so the first thing we're trying to do is check alibis.
11:26So we contact Mr. Eder, and he backs up his story.
11:29Meanwhile, detectives look into Carlos's background and find it's pretty clean.
11:36At the time, we uncovered only a relatively minor arrest for reckless driving.
11:43There was no history of violence, but Carlos and Alivia definitely had a rocky relationship.
11:54According to Alivia's family, Carlos was extremely controlling.
12:00It really affected Alivia.
12:02She always had to keep a distance between her and other people.
12:06It always seemed like he just wanted her to himself.
12:09He would control her Facebook, her Twitter, her Snapchat. He'd make her close her accounts.
12:16To a trained detective, that screams a control freak and a possible abuser.
12:24Just two months before her death, Carlos and Alivia had broken up, and according to Alivia's family, in a horrifying way.
12:33He told her to kill herself just because he didn't want to see her anymore.
12:36When Alivia did break up with Carlos, I was relieved.
12:41I'm not sure what she saw in him.
12:46But that relief is short-lived.
12:49On June 21st, Alivia starts seeing Carlos again, just hours before she's brutally murdered.
12:55I recall telling her, like, how is it you're talking to him again?
13:00She just said that they were just going to go hang out.
13:03I was kind of in shock.
13:05But again, I was never one to tell her what to do.
13:08With each detail detectives uncover about Carlos and Alivia's relationship, the more certain they are they've found their killer.
13:18We started evaluating, going back through witness statements, setting up our timelines.
13:23And that's when we're like, no, we need to talk to Carlos again.
13:26Something's not right.
13:28And when they get Carlos back in the chair, his story begins to change.
13:34In the second interview, we learned that he dated her for over 20 months.
13:38He was engaged to her.
13:40And I'm getting no feeling from him.
13:43Nothing.
13:45And that tells us something.
13:46Initially, Carlos told us that he was inside the house for five minutes, and then Carlos changed it to 15 to 20 minutes.
13:56So we were getting an ever-evolving story from him.
14:02In October 2014, investigators finally get Torres' phone records, and they blow his alibi right out of the water.
14:11And all of a sudden, I see phone calls to Etter's number.
14:15415 to 505, 507.
14:18Well, hold on.
14:20Carlos said he got to Etter's house at 345.
14:23So if I'm at your house, why am I calling you?
14:32We call Etter back up.
14:34Etter goes, okay, I'll come and talk.
14:37And I looked at Etter, and I said, you lied to me.
14:39I said, now, if I want to be a real problem, I would have just got a word for your arrest and put you in Harris County Jail.
14:46But I'm not after you.
14:48I told him, I'm after the person that did this.
14:51And I showed him a picture of Alivia.
14:53And then Etter told us the story.
14:57He was asleep with his wife in his house.
15:00Got up, and saw five missed phone calls from Carlos.
15:04Picks up the phone, and Carlos tells him, I'm in trouble, I'm in trouble, I need to come over.
15:06I said, okay, so you let him over, so what happens?
15:09Well, I meet him outside like I always do.
15:12He comes up to me, he gives me a hug, and says, I killed her.
15:17Carlos lays out the whole story to him.
15:20When they get home to Alivia's house,
15:24while she's in the shower, Carlos tells Etter that he accesses Alivia's phone
15:28and sees some pictures, a text, of another male while they were broke up.
15:38An argument ensued,
15:41and Carlos strangled her to death.
15:43He told Etter to cover up his tracks, he poured bleach over her body,
15:53and he snuck out of the room via the window,
15:57and ran through the backyard and to his vehicle.
16:00Another action that Etter was upset about, that he told us that was damning for Carlos,
16:10was that Etter found two cell phones that he was unaware of who they belonged to,
16:17inside the toilet tank of his residence.
16:20He described them as a black phone and a blue phone,
16:25and we know through talking with Alivia's family that she had a baby blue phone.
16:30He also found a Canon camera, which he described as looking professional.
16:36We can only believe that that belonged to her,
16:40and that Carlos had planted that camera there.
16:44Etter, calls Carlos.
16:47Say what, did you put these?
16:48Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I put those there, and I put her camera in the garage.
16:54And Etter says, well, you better come pick them up.
16:57Carlos came over and took the items, and fled with them to an unknown area.
17:04After speaking with Etter, we knew that we had our man.
17:10On December 10, 2014, members of the Gulf Coast Violent Offenders and Fugitive Task Force
17:15were able to take Torres into custody and charge him with the murder of Alivia.
17:23HPD homicide detectives had learned that a possible sexual assault had occurred during the murder,
17:30and so they were able to enhance his murder charge to a capital murder.
17:32But it's not enough to keep Torres behind bars.
17:38Carlos's bond was raised to $200,000, but the family was able to raise enough collateral to get him out of jail.
17:46As a condition of his release, Carlos is required to wear an ankle monitor with GPS.
17:53He must surrender his passport.
17:55mi hija ha muerto y lo ha hagan soltado.
17:59vale más el dinero que pudo haber pagado para salir libre que la vida de mi hija.
18:05minha filha. Não posso acreditar que o dinheiro seja mais importante que a vida de uma pessoa.
18:12Não é possível que ela esteja vivendo, comendo, dormindo.
18:22Tardaram um mês para me entregar o corpo de minha filha.
18:27Já não era minha filha o que me entregaram.
18:32E o único que ela queria era conhecer o mundo e viajar.
18:39Nós fazemos a nossa própria mente que ela está viajando por o mundo.
18:44E por isso não nos chama porque ela está conhecendo o mundo.
18:50.
18:57.
18:58.
18:59Shockingly, despite the capital murder charges, Harris County prosecutors offer Torres a 60-year deal.
19:07He has a month to accept it.
19:09On February 15, 2016, Carlos was expected to attend a plea hearing where he was expected to accept a plea deal.
19:19But everything changes with one phone call.
19:22On February 15, I get the phone call 3, 3.15 a.m.
19:32Carlos Torres cut off his ankle monitor.
19:35Around 7 p.m., he fled in his father's vehicle, a Nissan Xterra.
19:41He had an eight-hour head start.
19:47Investigators also learned Carlos made a pit stop at the home of the Star Wars.
19:52His friend, Eder.
19:54Eder's house is broken into.
19:56Their alarm goes off around 9 p.m., but there was no one home.
20:01God forbid, somebody would have been home at that house.
20:05God forbid, Eder would have been home at that house.
20:08Possibly, there was plans to silence the witness.
20:12His dad's vehicle is found abandoned a few days later, but Carlos is long gone.
20:18The missing car had actually been recovered only a few blocks away from Carlos Torres' father's home.
20:25The task force, what they're able to do is utilize various technology as well as resources to locate Torres.
20:32And we were informed that he was last located right on the border of Texas and Mexico in Laredo.
20:40And at that juncture, we believe that he crossed the border.
20:46Carlos is cold.
20:48He's calculating.
20:49I have no doubt in my mind that if a female crosses him or makes him angry, he'll do it again.
20:55I always feel that somehow he'll come back and probably hurt our family.
21:01I just want him in jail.
21:04He has a way with words, with people.
21:08If he somehow has met people and made friendships, just know that he's also lying to you.
21:15He's not who he seems to be.
21:17No es justo para ningún padre, ninguna madre, haber perdido a su hija de la forma que la perdí yo.
21:30A lot of us wish we had more time with her.
21:35I might not ever get over it, but I'll feel better knowing he's been apprehended.
21:42This is the kind of case that I should never have to talk about.
21:51Here's a perp with a brutal capital murder charge within a stone's throw of the Mexican border with resources to run.
21:59And a judge somehow thinks he's not a flight risk.
22:03This monster murdered Olivia while her family slept in the next room.
22:09And this family still lives in fear.
22:10He needs to pay for what he's done before he kills another beautiful young woman.
22:22Everybody remembers that feeling of hearing something thump in the basement.
22:28In this particular case, it was actually true.
22:32It was dark. It was horrible.
22:34It was one of the worst experiences of my whole life.
22:36I had never encountered anything like this.
22:40It's like something out of a horror movie.
22:42It's a Halloween murder show scene in there.
22:46Brand new The Real Murders on Elm Street starts the 31st of October on ID.
22:51Now, in 2006, the U.S. Congress passed the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act, named in honor of my six-year-old son, Adam, who was abducted and murdered by a pedophile in 1981.
23:08The law forces sex offenders to register every time they move to a different area or state.
23:15In our next case, my son, Callahan, heads to Utah to track down a pedophile who's been flagrantly ignoring that law for years.
23:25In 2015, fugitive sex offender Bill Brockbrader posted a video that he recorded from an undisclosed location.
23:55The video is a rambling attempt to distort the details surrounding his conviction for sexually assaulting a minor.
24:12It was also the last time anyone has seen him.
24:18Brockbrader served his time for that assault, but has since violated the conditions of his release and is now wanted by the U.S. Marshals.
24:26Deputy Marshal.
24:27Hey, how you doing?
24:28How are you?
24:28Good.
24:29Cal Walsh.
24:30Good to meet you.
24:30Nice to meet you as well.
24:31The deputy tasked with hunting him down has requested we not reveal his name in connection with this case.
24:38How did you first get involved in this case?
24:41I've been on it for about a year and a half, but the Marshals as a whole have had this for about six years.
24:46What can you tell me about Brockbrader's background?
24:48He grew up in Utah, and when he was in his early 20s, he was having sex with an 11-year-old girl, which was his sister-in-law.
24:57And the family was made aware, and then the Navy was made aware, and he was arrested in 1997.
25:02And in 1998, he gets convicted in military court.
25:07William Brockbrader was dishonorably discharged and sentenced to 11 years in the Naval Brig Prison in Miramar,
25:15but was released after only three years for good behavior.
25:21After the three years, he gets out, and where does he go from there?
25:26When he gets out in 2001, he moves back to Utah, registers as a sex offender in Ogden, Utah.
25:32And then he's bouncing between Utah and Las Vegas, Nevada.
25:36So he's there in Nevada. Is he doing regular check-ins somewhere?
25:40Once a year, you have to go to a local sheriff's office and get a new picture and fill out a complete registry.
25:45And he gets arrested eventually in 2011 for failure to register in Nevada.
25:51But he beats that charge, and then sometime after 2011, he goes up to Garden Valley, Idaho.
25:57And that's when the marshals get involved, because he's crossing state lines and not registering as a sex offender in the new state he's going to.
26:05That's a violation of the Adam Walsh Act.
26:08William Brockbrader was arrested again in 2012, and served another 30 months in federal prison in Seattle, Washington.
26:16But after his release in September 2014, he still refused to register.
26:23And in March 2015, he disappeared.
26:26So the last image that we've seen of Brockbrader was a video that he posted online himself?
26:33Correct.
26:34It's kind of like a goodbye video.
26:35He's constantly trying to portray himself as this hero, this freedom fighter.
26:41I'm trying to make the world a better place.
26:44What's this guy really like?
26:46He's a guy that sexually abused an 11-year-old for three years.
26:51He's a monster.
26:52In reality, he's a pedophile.
26:55He's the exact opposite.
26:59But the new law, the 2006 Adam Walsh Act, dragged me into the registration system, and I fought, and I fought, and I fought.
27:09And said, you know, this is punishment, not prevention.
27:16Do you see that typically with these type of sex offenders that are looking for others to feel sorry for them?
27:26Completely.
27:27First of all, there's a huge disconnect with reality.
27:30He's delusional.
27:31At one point, he does say that he had a sexual relation with her.
27:35He minimizes it by saying it was consensual, very painful to watch.
27:40Do you think this guy could offend again?
27:43If you look at his initial crime, he's raping his sister-in-law, who's 11 years old.
27:49If he's willing to do that, what's he not willing to do?
27:52Where does he draw the line?
27:54We need to know where he's at.
27:55He needs to be wearing the orange jumpsuit.
27:57Bill Brockbrader grew up in the small farming community of Hooper, Utah, where he met his future wife, Tana, and her younger sister, Jana Lynn, his first victim.
28:12It was their father, Dale Spaulding, who took Bill into his home at an early age.
28:19Mr. Spaulding, Cal Walsh.
28:21Hello. How are you, Cal?
28:22Great. How are you?
28:25So, tell me about the time when Bill Brockbrader first entered your life.
28:30Tana and Bill started dating in high school?
28:32Yeah.
28:33Seemed like a nice enough young man.
28:35He was having some problems at home and asked if he could stay, and so we allowed him to stay.
28:43And your daughter and Bill married pretty young, correct?
28:47Yeah, after high school.
28:49And then Bill joined the Navy, and that was when they moved to San Diego.
28:56Was Tana happy with her marriage and moving to San Diego?
29:00I believe she was, until after the birth of their son.
29:05And that's when things began to come apart.
29:12In 1993, Dale and his wife agreed to send Tana's 11-year-old sister, Jana Lynn, down to San Diego to help out with the baby.
29:22The trip would soon become a yearly tradition.
29:26Did Jana Lynn seem, at first, she liked visiting her sister?
29:29She seemed to be comfortable with it, but then at some point, I started to notice that she just wasn't herself.
29:36We'd gotten her a Barbie dream house for Christmas, and all of a sudden, she was taking it down, putting it away.
29:45And I remember thinking at the top, I guess she's not a little girl anymore.
29:53How were you able to get Jana Lynn to talk about the abuse that she suffered?
29:58She was a writer.
29:59She loved to write, and she did little bits of poetry and just little writings that she'd do for school and things like that.
30:09And she was very, very good at it.
30:12And so I used that as a key for something that she would be familiar with.
30:19And just write a letter to yourself, where you're at, what's bothering you, and so forth.
30:27And so she did that.
30:29It was one of those late-night situations.
30:34We had to sit down at the kitchen table, and I remember holding her hand, and I said,
30:41What is troubling you?
30:43And I told her to write a letter to herself.
30:47And it was just heart-wrenching to read the letter and begin to feel the pain and understand the pain that she was dealing with.
31:01We found out about the abuse and that he did the abuse on my daughter when she was only about 11 years old on the day of my father's funeral.
31:11While we were dealing with the whole community upstairs, he had Jana Lynn in the basement, fiddling with her.
31:22That was beyond devastating.
31:24Brock Brader's rape and abuse of Jana Lynn was a shocking revelation to her family.
31:36But it also exposed a second victim overlooked for so many years, Bill's wife, Tana.
31:43Thank you for taking the time.
31:48You know, I apologize for some of the tough questions.
31:50When did you first meet Bill?
31:53In 1989.
31:55Um, we met in high school.
31:58Yeah, what was he like back then?
32:00He was very charismatic, very smart.
32:04He just was so sure of himself and so confident.
32:09And you don't find that in a lot of teenage boys.
32:12He just would make a young girl melt.
32:16And how did his behavior change over time?
32:19Our relationship started to change right after the birth of our oldest son.
32:24He would tell me that I was too fat, that I was ugly, nobody would ever want me.
32:30He was becoming distant, and then I think he was frequenting strip clubs.
32:36And I would find, like, porn magazines around the house.
32:40Then he started to ask me to do things that I was not comfortable with.
32:46One of them was a threesome.
32:48What was his response to you not wanting to go along with his requests?
32:52He would just throw a fit like a toddler.
32:54Did he do other weird things around this time that you started to notice?
32:58Yes.
33:00One day, I get a videotape out that I think is my boys opening their Christmas presents
33:08because my friends at work wanted to see my boys open their Christmas presents.
33:12I take it with me to work, and I put this video in,
33:16and it's this friend of mine taking a shower.
33:20He had the video camera up in a vent in the bathroom.
33:25It was clear that my friend did not know that she was being videotaped.
33:31And we were both just appalled.
33:36Repulsed by her husband's deviant behavior,
33:39Tana returned to Utah, where she learned the full extent of her husband's perversion.
33:43My parents sent me down the Saturday that I got there
33:49and told me that my sister was being sexually abused by my husband
33:54and that he was molesting and raping her.
33:59And what were your first thoughts?
34:01I was just sick to my stomach.
34:05I was sleeping next to the bathroom so that I could throw up
34:10because I would start thinking about things that he had done,
34:13and it would make me sick.
34:15In 1998, Brock Breider pleaded guilty to sexually abusing Jana Lynn.
34:22He was dishonorably discharged from the Navy
34:24and sentenced to 11 years in prison,
34:27but was paroled just three years later.
34:31When he was released, did you believe that he was reformed at that point?
34:36They gave me a parole list of things that he had to do with his parole.
34:41One was to not be around children.
34:45But yet he brought a young girl to his first meeting with his boys.
34:52That's a clear violation of his parole.
34:54Correct.
34:55He's a sociopath.
34:57No child or woman needs to be put through what he puts people through.
35:07On ID.
35:15It was after Tana's meeting with Brock Breider in 2001
35:18that he began bouncing around the western U.S.,
35:21from Utah to Nevada to Idaho.
35:25He also bounced from one relationship to another,
35:28each ending in disaster,
35:30as his true nature and criminal history came to light.
35:34Then, in 2012, he suddenly appeared online with a whole new persona.
35:45He created a new narrative about his naval record
35:58and his status as a registered sex offender.
36:00I said, I'm not doing the bombings anymore.
36:04And then, lo and behold, all of my legal problems came up.
36:08Using the charade to erase his criminal history.
36:12But Brock Breider's videos caught the attention of a real Navy SEAL
36:18named Don Shipley.
36:20Mr. Shipley.
36:23So, Don, tell me a little bit about your background.
36:28I went in the Navy at 17, come from a big military family,
36:32and became a SEAL in my 21,
36:36and retired after 24 great years in the Navy.
36:39I loved every minute of them.
36:41I met my wife in the Navy,
36:43her father, our son's a SEAL, son-in-law's a SEAL,
36:47and I just take a lot of offense to this phenomenon,
36:51these phony Navy SEALs.
36:53I owe everything to the Navy.
36:55And just, my son was badly wounded as a SEAL,
37:00and son-in-law got his bell rung pretty good.
37:03It's just some of the sacrifices the guys have made,
37:07and I just won't.
37:08That, I don't have that in me, you know?
37:10Now, I'm not as tough as I used to be
37:12and fight the way I used to,
37:14but I will nail you with a keyboard.
37:16I'm good at that, and I just go after him.
37:18I don't like it.
37:19When did Brock Breider first get on your radar?
37:23January of 2012.
37:25It was the interview we called Project Looking Glass,
37:28an interview with an ex-Navy SEAL.
37:30He talked about this crazy stuff with SEAL Team 9
37:33and these double strikes, but it's all made up.
37:37Tell me about SEAL Team 9.
37:39Is that a real thing?
37:41No, absolutely not.
37:42I was able to research all this.
37:44I just look your name up.
37:46It's a constant maintained database
37:47and has been for 77 years.
37:49If your name is not listed,
37:51no, you're not a SEAL.
37:53We got his complete records.
37:54He was a fire control technician.
37:56So I immediately did a video to counter that video,
38:01the SEAL Team 9, the Tomahawk strikes.
38:04But when you started to confront him online,
38:05was it just about the Navy SEAL claims?
38:08It was a bit of everything
38:10because he's using those claims specifically
38:14to cover up his sexual deviant past.
38:18Nothing that comes out of that guy's mouth is the truth.
38:21In 2012, Shipley sued Brock Brader
38:27in civil court for defamation.
38:30Shortly after, Brock Brader was arrested in Idaho
38:32for failure to register
38:34and sentenced to 30 months in federal prison.
38:39But after his release in 2014,
38:42he broke parole and was a fugitive once more.
38:46He also started posting new videos.
38:49He focused on the one person
39:05who thought she was free of Brock Brader forever.
39:08Well, she kind of told me that I was the object
39:12of, you know, a good majority of her fantasy material
39:16that she used.
39:17And, you know, how do you respond to that, really?
39:23In 2015, Brock Brader's last video post
39:26called out his original victim,
39:29a girl who was only 11 years old
39:31at the time of the abuse.
39:33Janeline, I need you to understand something.
39:36You got used the first time at the court, Marshall.
39:40You got used again at my trial.
39:43He claimed she was a liar,
39:45that she pursued him and fantasized about him,
39:48and even made thinly veiled threats
39:50to try to keep her silent.
39:53I am going to make a video of all the details,
39:59but it's not going to be published
40:03unless it needs to be to clear the record.
40:07Now, with Brock Brader on the run,
40:12Janeline wanted to set the record straight
40:14once and for all.
40:16He's already put you through the worst,
40:17but yet comes out and continues to victimize you.
40:21That sent me back into therapy for a while
40:24because it brought up a lot of old demons.
40:28I had my day in court,
40:29and I felt such a relief after that.
40:32And, yeah, later on you find out
40:34about these YouTube videos
40:35and put a slap in the face.
40:38And so can you tell me in your own words
40:41how he took advantage of you?
40:44It started really young.
40:46He kind of tried to, like,
40:48be that big brother kind of, you know,
40:50Mr. Cool Guy that then, on a dime,
40:54could turn and just be a bully.
40:58And at what point did he cross the line?
41:01My grandfather's pain room.
41:03It had been a long day,
41:04an emotional day, obviously.
41:07And I was in our basement,
41:09and he had come down.
41:12And he played it off as,
41:14how are you doing?
41:15I know everybody's upset.
41:17You were close with Grandpa.
41:18But he somehow started to kind of, like,
41:22you know, rub your back.
41:24And then he started to touch me.
41:29And his hands are down with my pants,
41:33and this is not okay.
41:34And I completely froze.
41:37He had manipulated me to be on top of him.
41:40And that's when I was like,
41:44could you please stop?
41:45Mm-hmm.
41:46And he said, oh, oh, you know,
41:49oh, my God, I'm so sorry.
41:51And, you know, this won't happen again.
41:54And I was really naive.
41:56My mom was only 11.
41:59Did it escalate over time?
42:01It did.
42:03It would be disguised as playful or tickling,
42:06but, you know, he'd maybe grab my butt or a breast.
42:11And then I went to go babysit in San Diego.
42:16And that eventually did lead into sexual abuse
42:20a few days before my 12th birthday.
42:22When the abuse did continue,
42:27what were you telling yourself then?
42:29Um, I actually, I checked out a lot mentally.
42:33That's when I started to, like, get into drugs
42:36and the wrong crowd, poor grades, things like that.
42:40How were you able to finally tell your parents
42:43what had been happening all these years?
42:46Talking with my dad, um, and he's like,
42:50so I want you to sit here and write a letter
42:54to what you would tell your daughter
42:58if she was in this same situation.
43:02And I give my dad a lot of credit
43:04to pick up on little pieces
43:07and follow up with that.
43:11Like, okay, so what's this about?
43:13And what happened here?
43:16What do you think you've lost through all this?
43:18And obviously, by childhood,
43:22um, my innocence had been taken.
43:28So, can't get that back.
43:34Brock Brader has now been off the grid
43:36and on the run for six long years.
43:39Bill Brock Brader is a very manipulative person.
43:44person, what you're seeing is not what you're getting.
43:47And what you're hearing is not, uh, the truth.
43:50The abuse and the violence
43:52is something that I have to deal with every day.
43:55He's very much a danger to society.
43:58He needs to be caught.
44:00Now, one thing I can tell you for sure
44:06is that sex offenders don't change.
44:09Once a pedophile, always a pedophile.
44:12This guy is violating the Adam Walsh Act
44:14because he wants to fly under the radar.
44:17And if he keeps refusing to register,
44:19he can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:22He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:23He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:24He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:25He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:26He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:27He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:28He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:29He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:30He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:31He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:32He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:33He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:34He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:35He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:36He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:37He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
44:38He can only imagine what he's doing in secret.
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