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PEOPLE MAGAZINE INVESTIGATES SURVIVING A SERIAL KILLER S01E01- SURVIVING THE DATING GAME KILLER
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00:53Ela deveria ter morto, mas ela era um combate.
00:56Essa mulher deixou sua história secretaria por 50 anos,
01:01até que ela percebe que não era a única survivor.
01:23A CIDADE NO BRASIL
01:53A CIDADE NO BRASIL
02:23I had a hard time in school because I was timid and shy
02:27and was always just kind of on the edges.
02:30Morgan Rowan's home and school life
02:33is conservative in the mid-60s,
02:36but she and her friends would soon discover
02:39a different side of Los Angeles.
02:43It's my old neighborhood, where I lived, where I played.
02:47By 13, I was really branching out, and from here, you just walk onto the corner, and you're
02:54right on the other side of the mountain from Hollywood, and Hollywood was the place to
02:58be when I was a teenager.
03:00All the teenagers went there.
03:02It was very easy for us to just go up there, hitchhike, and go across the canyon.
03:07And I think going into Hollywood was kind of a way to convince myself that I'm not a
03:12Catholic schoolgirl.
03:13It was really a pretty innocent time, and it just got in my blood, you know.
03:21This, at one time, was the Hullabaloo Club.
03:24It was probably the biggest nightclub for teenagers.
03:28They didn't serve alcohol, so people of all ages went there.
03:32Everybody who was ever famous in the 60s pretty much has played at the Hullabaloo Club.
03:38It was a place to be.
03:39The club was a completely different experience for her.
03:42It was all free love and friends, and so it was a lot different than what she was used
03:47to, compared to that strict upbringing she had.
03:51But Morgan soon discovers that it's not all about love, peace, and harmony.
03:58It took me 50 years to finally tell this story.
04:02It was a tough decision, but it's important to me.
04:10When did you first meet Rob?
04:11When I first met Rob.
04:15I'll check it.
04:16I was 13 when I first met Rob.
04:29That day, we'd gone down to the Hullabaloo Club to watch the bands come in.
04:45We were standing in the parking lot, and there were two older guys there.
04:50My friend said, hey, that's Rod.
04:53He was very charismatic.
04:56He really drew people to him.
04:58He was tall, attractive, laughed easily, told stories.
05:03Young girls loved him.
05:04They just loved him.
05:06I never saw that as dangerous, but actually it was.
05:10He kept looking over at us, smiling, winking, playful, and eventually he kind of waved us
05:19over, and after a few minutes, my girlfriend saw somebody that she liked, and she kind of
05:24took off and said, I'll be back.
05:27I wanted his attention, so I kind of lightly scratched his arm with my fingernails, and he
05:36put his arm around me, hugged me tight, smiled, and laughed, so a couple minutes later, I did
05:42it again, and then he didn't think it was so cute at that time, and he kind of hugged me
05:47harder, like, stop, and said, you know, don't do that again.
05:51I was 13 and stupid, so I did it again, and he grabbed my arm and dragged me into an alley
05:59at the back of the club.
06:00I think he slammed my head against the wall because I was unconscious.
06:07When I woke up, I had something pressing hard against my chest.
06:13What it was was a big industrial dumpster.
06:17He had put me behind it and pushed it against me.
06:22I ran and pounded on the door, and the owner of the club called his wife.
06:26She helped me and put ice on my head and cleaned me up a little bit.
06:32After that, I would make sure I stayed away from him.
06:37Over the next three years, Morgan is sure to steer clear of Rod until one night in early
06:43August of 1968.
06:45So, when I'm 16 years old, I found out that we were moving back to New York.
06:52My father's job was done, and we would be transferring back.
06:57I was so upset by it.
07:00I didn't want to leave my friends.
07:02I thought moving from Los Angeles to New York was like moving back 20 years.
07:07Four days before she said to move back to New York with her family, Morgan and her friends
07:13decide to go celebrate on the Sunset Strip.
07:18Huge crowd of people, and Rod just suddenly appeared in the crowd.
07:23And I was absolutely creeped out.
07:26Maybe an hour or so later, my two friends came up and said,
07:31Come on, we're all going to IHOP.
07:32You want to go?
07:34So, we got in a car.
07:37My friend Mike was on one side.
07:39My friend Evie was on the other.
07:40I was in the middle.
07:43Then suddenly, Rod got into the driver's seat and just took off.
07:49He kept looking up in the rearview mirror, and just with this weird look on his face,
07:54which was disturbing.
07:56So, we went in the restaurant, and he pretty much ignored me.
08:03I got up, and I went to go to the bathroom, and I passed a pay phone.
08:08And my dad always taped a dime inside all of my shoes, so I'd be able to call for help
08:14if I was in trouble.
08:16So, I took the dime.
08:20And I just kind of stood there thinking about it.
08:23I have four days with my friends, and I wanted to be with my friends.
08:26And I didn't call my dad.
08:28If I could go back, I would have called my dad.
08:35When I turned around, Rod was just standing there watching me, and he said,
08:39You know, we're ready to go.
08:40I'll take you back.
08:41So, I got back in the car.
08:44We were driving back towards the strip, and he suddenly made a turn
08:48and drove a couple blocks, stopped in front of the house.
08:51And he said, Come in, guys.
08:53I've got pot.
08:55My friends thought that was great.
08:56Everybody was sitting around, loud music, people talking.
09:04I was anxious to leave, and I didn't want to sit down, so I just paced.
09:09As I walked into the other room, Rod grabbed my arm and threw me into a bedroom.
09:17And when I turned around, he was holding a metal bar.
09:21He had brackets on both sides of his door.
09:25They dropped the bar down into the bracket, so he couldn't open the door.
09:29I started to know I was in trouble, and I kept backing up until I was against the wall.
09:38He took his belt off and wrapped it around his fist.
09:42I tried to be brave, and I said, You know, you can't keep me here.
09:48And he just punched me between my eyes as hard as he could.
09:54And my head hit the wall, and sparks just flew.
09:59I dropped to my knees.
10:01I was seeing stars.
10:04He had a knife, and he cut the tie off of my neck.
10:09I could feel blood start to flow down my chest.
10:13And I remember thinking, He cut my neck.
10:16I'm going to die.
10:17The sadistic monster, Rodney Alcala, tortured and posed his victims.
10:29Alcala faces charges in the brutal slayings of four women in L.A. County.
10:33He's going to act like an animal that is trying to get his prey.
10:38In early August of 1968, inside Rodney Alcala's bedroom, Morgan is fighting for her life.
10:46His face was red and swollen, and his eyes were glassy, and he was just out of control.
10:54He just looked like an animal.
10:57He took the belt, and he folded it, and he pushed it in my mouth.
11:01And it blocked my airway, and I was fighting for breath.
11:05And he started punching me in the stomach until I could feel my ribs breaking.
11:13Then he took the knife and cut the rest of my clothes off, and he stood up to take his pants off, put the knife down.
11:24And I could see it next to me, and I kind of fixated on it.
11:28And I kept thinking, if I can move to where I can get on top of the knife, he can't pick it up and kill me with it.
11:40And he raped me.
11:43I fought really hard.
11:45I was a virgin.
11:46This was...
11:49...betterstating.
11:51I couldn't get up.
11:52I couldn't move.
11:54I couldn't even find reality anymore.
11:56I started to feel like I was falling down a well, just a really long, dark well.
12:05Despite the loud music and partying, Morgan's friend Mike and her other friends noticed that she and Rodney are missing from the living room.
12:15He was on me.
12:17And then there was a lot of commotion, and my friends were pounding on the door, but I kept slamming up against the metal bar.
12:24And then suddenly there was a feeling of cool air and glass breaking and noise, and my friend Mike had broken through the window.
12:35And he got off of me then.
12:37He went to the door, took the metal bar off the door, and he stood there, my blood all over his shirt, and he just said,
12:46take her, take her, take her.
12:49If my friend Mike hadn't broken the window, I would definitely not be here today.
12:53He was definitely going to kill me.
12:55There was no doubt in my mind that he was going to kill me.
12:58I ran out of the house.
13:01I had just a ripped blouse on, nothing else, and I just couldn't take it anymore, and I just walked out in the middle of the street and walked in front of a moving car.
13:09The car screeches to a halt with a man and woman inside, and Morgan and her friends force their way into the car, and they all drive off.
13:20I really don't know where we went.
13:22The woman just held me, and I think she was praying.
13:27I looked up in her face, and it's just a pain in her eyes, you know.
13:33I just, I could just see my mother.
13:36At that moment, I just knew I could never, ever tell my mother or my father.
13:42I could never do this to my mother, ever.
13:46My mother was fragile.
13:47My mother would not have been able to handle it.
13:51My friend Michael took me to his apartment out at the beach.
13:56I called my parents, told them I'd be home in time to leave, but I wasn't coming home.
14:01I didn't tell them why.
14:03Michael's neighbor was a male nurse.
14:05He helped me cough the blood out of my lungs and wrapped my ribs in tape and butterfly clothes.
14:13All the open wounds.
14:16Michael took care of me for four days.
14:20He really saved my life.
14:21She eventually goes home, and her parents are outside in the driveway, just ready to drive back to New York.
14:31And so she climbs into the backseat of the car, and then they drive seven days back to New York.
14:36When I got to New York, the person I had been was gone.
14:43I was morose and quiet and troubled.
14:47I couldn't sleep at night, and I would sleep next to my parents' bed at night.
14:54This was the only way I could sleep.
14:56My parents just thought, you know, that I was sad from leaving California, and I was upset.
15:01Morgan does her best to forget the assault, holding all of the horror of it secret.
15:09But just a few weeks later, back in Los Angeles, Rodney Alcala will show what a monster he really is.
15:18Why did you feel compelled to tell your story?
15:21I believe that people need to know the truth about what goes on.
15:33For the first time in more than 50 years, Donald Haynes is publicly sharing his story of what happened on September 25, 1968.
15:45In 1968, I was a sales representative, and I drove a lot.
15:52That day, I drove up to Hollywood, and I was going along Wilshire Boulevard, and I wanted to turn around.
16:00But there was a car in the crosswalk.
16:06Inside was a man, and he was talking to a young girl, evidently on her way to school.
16:12And he was smiling and talking to her, just fixated on this little girl.
16:19That disturbed me.
16:21He sees this little girl getting into the car with this man.
16:26He had that little girl in the back seat.
16:29All the warning signs were there.
16:32He didn't like what he saw, and he got worried, so he ended up following the car.
16:37Donald Haynes follows the car a few blocks until it pulls over on the side of DeLong Price Street.
16:46Donald watches the man and the girl exit the car and enter a house.
16:50And I thought, what the hell do I do now?
16:56You may have a gun, who knows?
16:58And so I thought, well, I'll go find the pay phone, and I'll phone the police.
17:02In 1968, I was right at this intersection, and I received a call to see the man about a possible
17:14kidnapping at Las Palmas and Sunset.
17:18There's a gentleman right on this corner waving me down.
17:22Donald tells the LAPD officer what he saw, and then he shows him where the house is.
17:29Two backup officers arrive, and Officer Camacho approaches the front of the house.
17:36I'm knocking out the door.
17:37I hear somebody inside, then finally coming to the front door.
17:41He pulled the covering aside enough that I could see he was completely naked.
17:46He had a rage in his eyes.
17:49I told him, open the door, get some clothes on.
17:52He said, give me one moment.
17:53I put my ear to the door, and I'm hearing moaning.
17:59Within seconds, I kicked in the door.
18:05As I entered, the first thing I saw was a little girl laying on the floor with blood around her.
18:12There was a bar across her neck.
18:14She had a white dress, white shoes, white socks.
18:17She was unresponsive, that kind of violence.
18:23It still haunts me.
18:29With no sign of the attacker anywhere in the house,
18:33the officers returned to the little girl who isn't moving.
18:37I went back into the kitchen to check on the little girl.
18:42There were three officers.
18:44We all thought she was dead.
18:45The bar was still on her neck.
18:48I removed that bar from her neck,
18:51and that's when we heard the little girl starting to gag for breath.
18:55An ambulance rushes the child to the hospital as she clings to life.
19:00As we're searching the house, I found a wallet on an end table,
19:05and I picked it up, I opened it.
19:07I found ID belonging to a Radyacola.
19:11Back in New York, I got a letter from the girl that I had been with that night.
19:21I went up to my bedroom, shut the door.
19:24When I opened the letter, a newspaper clipping fell out on the floor,
19:30and I picked it up, and it said that Rod had raped and tried to murder an eight-year-old girl in the same house.
19:42And I was overwhelmed.
19:45It was my fault.
19:46I hadn't done anything.
19:48I could have stopped it.
19:49I should have told my parents I should have done something.
19:53I should have gone back to that house and killed him myself.
19:56I just fell to my knees and, by God, to forgive me, it was my fault.
20:11I fully felt that it was my fault, that I should have done something.
20:14So I tried to call back to L.A., tried to get a hold of somebody to see if she was alive.
20:30I didn't even know if she was alive.
20:32No one could tell me because of privacy, because of her age.
20:36So no one could even tell me if she was alive.
20:39And it broke me.
20:41I had a real hard time after that.
20:48I dreamt about her all the time.
20:51She had no name, no face.
20:53She was just kind of a ghost.
20:57This is 1968.
20:59So Roddy James Alcala has no arrest record with the LAPD.
21:02And when police start looking at his background, they find that he grew up in Monterey Park.
21:06He went to Cantwell High School.
21:07He was actually a successful student.
21:09Gone to UCLA Film School.
21:11And they also learned that he was previously in the Army.
21:16And they diagnosed him as a antisocial personality disorder.
21:20But they also realized that he had a very high IQ of 135.
21:24So they learn a tremendous amount about Rodney Alcala, except what they didn't learn was where he was.
21:30Alcala is in the wind.
21:32He's gone.
21:32We have no idea where he is.
21:34He's left the neighborhood.
21:36He's probably left the city.
21:38We're not finding him.
21:39So we needed help.
21:40We need to get this guy on the FBI's Most Wanted.
21:43Soon, wanted posters of Alcala are hanging in every police precinct and post office in the country.
21:52In New York, I thought about that eight-year-old girl all the time.
21:57I would go to the library and look up LA Times on microfilm and look for anything that told me whether she lived or not.
22:06Fast forward now, it's 1971.
22:10You have two girls that are attending an all-girls summer camp in New Hampshire and go into a local post office.
22:16And they look up on the wall and they see one of their camp counselors, Mr. Berger.
22:21Only the name is different.
22:22And the name is Rodney James Alcala.
22:25They immediately alert camp counselors who immediately alert police.
22:29And next thing you know, Rodney Alcala is arrested in the state of New Hampshire and extradited back to Los Angeles.
22:35Rodney Alcala is prosecuted for the attack on the eight-year-old girl.
22:40But the prosecution takes an unlikely turn.
22:43Rodney Alcala is originally charged with attempted murder, rape, kidnapping.
22:47But when the prosecution learned that this eight-year-old girl would not be availed to testify, they decided to give him what is known as a plea deal,
22:54where Rodney Alcala agreed to take a reduced charge of a simple child molest in exchange for receiving a sentence of one year to life in California state prison.
23:05Around that time, I went down to the library and looked it up.
23:09And it said that the eight-year-old girl had been unable to testify.
23:13And that broke my heart.
23:15I thought that she was badly brain damaged.
23:18I didn't think she would have a life.
23:19I was really, really hurt.
23:24At the time in California, your sentencing was up to the parole board.
23:28And after 34 months in prison, a psychiatrist deemed him no longer a threat.
23:35So the parole board released him after 34 months.
23:39Rodney Alcala manages to evade the LAPD for the next several years.
23:57That is until June of 1979.
24:00June 20, 1979, Huntington Beach, California, about 3 o'clock in the afternoon.
24:06Robin Samso is on the beach with her friend Bridget, and they're right about 12, 13 years old.
24:12And they get approached by a man who says, hey, I'm a photographer.
24:15You're beautiful.
24:16Let me take your picture.
24:17This is the type of thing that Rodney Alcala would do.
24:21He would seek out girls and convince them that he was a legitimate photographer, and he was going to do a magazine layout.
24:30And one of the neighborhood moms sees this, and it doesn't look right to her.
24:35So she comes over, and this photographer kind of scurries off.
24:40Robin is late for her ballet lesson, and she had to go home, jump on her bike, and she was riding to her ballet lesson, and that's the last anybody ever saw of her.
24:50Police asked Robin's friend to describe the man she saw to a sketch artist.
24:55Police released this sketch to every TV station and every newspaper in Orange County and pretty much Southern California.
25:03Twelve days after she was abducted, Robin Samso's animal-ravaged body was found in the foothills of Sierra Madre.
25:12A knife is found next to her body, and police believe she's been murdered.
25:16So we have the composite sketch.
25:19Everybody is trying to figure out who the suspect is.
25:21And Detective Jenkins with the Huntington Peoples Police Department gets a phone call in the late afternoon from a parole officer who says,
25:29Hey, I've got a parolee who looks awfully similar to that composite sketch.
25:34You need to look at him.
25:35His name is Rodney Alcala.
25:37So this is towards the end of the day.
25:39These police are working 18-hour days, if not longer, and Jenkins needs a break.
25:44So he goes home, sits down on his couch, and turns on the TV, and there's a rerun of The Dating Game,
25:53and there is Rodney Alcala on TV winning The Dating Game.
25:58He's a skydiver, so he's got a lot of nerve.
26:00He's into motorcycling.
26:01He's also a fine photographer.
26:03Say hello to Rodney Alcala.
26:06You can't make this up.
26:08And she actually picks him to go on a date with.
26:11I'll take one.
26:12Number one.
26:13That's your number one.
26:14All right.
26:15Rodney, come on and say hello.
26:20Unbelievable that this guy could have the huevos rancheros to go on TV.
26:27I mean, you talk about ego.
26:32We're going to have a great time together, Cheryl.
26:35Authorities arrest Alcala at his mother's house and search it.
26:39They don't find any forensic evidence linking Rodney Alcala to the murder of Robin Samso,
26:46but they do find a receipt for a storage unit in Seattle.
26:52They get up to Seattle, they open it up, and it was a bonanza of evidence.
26:57What they find are hundreds and hundreds of photographs of young women, girls, and boys in positions of vulnerability.
27:09When you look at those photos, I mean, you're talking about legions of people that are unidentified,
27:15that are almost certainly victims of Rodney Alcala,
27:17and you realize the prolific nature of Rodney Alcala and how many victims he must have.
27:23Investigators also find a silk pouch that's filled with jewelry.
27:28Police immediately realize that these are Alcala's trophies.
27:34These are items that a serial killer has taken from his victims.
27:39And they show them to Robin Samso's mom.
27:43She immediately identifies two gold ball earrings that Robin Samso was wearing when she disappeared.
27:48They didn't have any DNA evidence at that time,
27:50but now we have something that links Rodney Alcala to Robin Samso.
27:56In 1980, Rodney Alcala is tried and convicted and sentenced to death for kidnapping, raping, and murdering Robin Samso.
28:06There's been a gross miscarriage of justice for being found guilty of something that I didn't do.
28:11Over the next two decades, his conviction is reversed twice.
28:16Each time he's retried, he's convicted and given the death penalty.
28:21Until the case is reversed again in 2003, which is when it was assigned to me.
28:30As soon as it landed on my desk, he was clearly a psychopath.
28:34Clearly, he killed multiple people.
28:36We just didn't know who yet.
28:39Alcala's DNA is already in the CODA system.
28:41So they compare it to DNA and forensic evidence from other unsolved cases
28:47around the time of Robin Samso's murder.
28:50And there are several matches.
28:54Jill Barkham was a young woman from New York who came to Los Angeles like millions of others
28:59to pursue her dreams.
29:01And she smashed her face in on a rock.
29:04On December 16, 1977, Georgia Wickstead's body was found in her apartment in Malibu.
29:09She had been beaten to death and raped with a blue hammer that was found next to her body.
29:14Charlotte Lamb was a legal secretary whose body was found on June 24, 1978, in an apartment complex in El Segundo, California.
29:22She had been raped and strangled with the lace of her own shoe.
29:28They also link Rodney Alcala to the murder of Jill Parenteau.
29:32She was a 21-year-old key punch operator who was living in Burbank.
29:38Her killer had left his blood on the windowsill.
29:41And so that blood was eventually traced back to Rodney Alcala.
29:45Charlotte Lamb and Jill Parenteau were posed in this knee-to-chest position.
29:52Jill Barkham was also posed in almost the exact same position.
29:56There's no doubt in any of our minds that after Rodney Alcala completed those murders,
30:00he was taking photos of those women.
30:02We took Rodney Alcala to trial, and this time it wasn't just for one murder.
30:05It was for five murders.
30:06In 2010, Alcala is convicted of all five murders.
30:12And during the sentencing phase, there is one witness called whose presence shocks the courtroom.
30:19It's the eight-year-old girl who was attacked in 1968 but managed to survive.
30:28It was the first time I ever had a name for her, first time I'd ever seen her face.
30:34And it was pretty overwhelming.
30:35Like, I was just so happy to see her alive.
30:41My name is Talia Shapiro, and when I was eight years old, I survived a serial killer.
30:51In 1968, I live in Los Angeles, and I am eight years old.
31:00Growing up in Los Angeles, my father was in the music business,
31:04so we had a lot of colorful characters in and out of our house.
31:08Mama Cass, Jim Morrison was one of my mom's best friends, so he was always around.
31:13Lenny Bruce introduced my parents.
31:15Just a slew of colorful characters.
31:17Tali and her family lead a very Hollywood lifestyle, but in 1968, a fire leaves them without a place to call home.
31:28When the house burnt down, we moved to the Chateau-Mermont, and I was supposed to take the public bus to school,
31:35because it was only blocks away, but I didn't like taking the public bus by myself.
31:39Tali is a precocious and resourceful kid, and on September 25th, 1968, as she's walking by herself to school,
31:48she crosses paths with a serial killer.
31:53A car approaches me, so he had his window down.
31:57I'm on the sidewalk, and I'm talking him through the passenger window.
32:01He tells me he knows my parents, which is totally possible.
32:06There were so many people in and out of my house.
32:07It was Grand Central Station, so it's quite possible.
32:10He says he wants to give me a ride to school.
32:13I got in the car.
32:14At that point, he says he would like to show me a poster that he has, because he's a photographer.
32:19And we headed off to his house.
32:23I followed him in, and that's all I remember.
32:27There's nothing else to remember.
32:29I mean, he obviously hit me over the head right after that, so that was it.
32:33By some miracle that day, Donald Haynes sees her get into the car and follows her to that house.
32:45I saw it, and so I couldn't just drive away and forget about it.
32:50I just thought that if it was my kids, I'd want somebody to do something about it.
32:56After her attack, Tali Shapiro was in a coma for 32 days.
33:09I woke up at the Chateau Marmont.
33:12I do not remember being in the hospital.
33:15At this point, I don't realize I've been raped.
33:17I don't realize I had been in a coma.
33:20My parents never spoke about any of this, and neither did anyone else.
33:25Two and a half years later, Tali's parents refused to let her testify in Rodney Alcala's trial and further traumatize her.
33:36I'm so grateful my parents did not have me testify.
33:40None of this was my knowledge, and I didn't need to know about those things.
33:44You know, knowing about them years and years later, I could digest that, because it's not part of me.
33:49I didn't have to live with it, but it would have totally messed up my childhood.
33:53In 2010, Matt Murphy contacts Tali Shapiro and asks her whether she would be interested in testifying during the death penalty portion of Rodney Alcala's trial, and she agrees.
34:08Years later, I didn't have any feelings except of duty and of justice.
34:14We, the jury, determine that the penalty to be imposed upon defendant Rodney James Alcala to be death.
34:24I never once looked his way.
34:27I consciously didn't want to give him any energy whatsoever.
34:30I didn't glance at him.
34:32I didn't acknowledge him.
34:33I never spoke his name.
34:35I wasn't going to give him any satisfaction.
34:36But there is someone at court that Tali has been waiting to meet for a long time.
34:43I was with a group of people, and she came running up to me and said, Mr. Haynes, Mr. Haynes.
34:51And I said, who are you?
34:53She says, I'm Tali Shapiro.
34:57And I said, oh, I'm so glad to see you.
35:00She said, you're the only reason I am here.
35:05And that, that was really, really something that got to me.
35:14How come you survived this?
35:17God's will.
35:18I mean, I had some guardian angels around me.
35:21The good Samaritan, and I had the policemen.
35:25Without those two people, I would not be here today.
35:27Following his conviction, we made the decision to release 120 photographs to People Magazine
35:34and to the Orange County Register of various unknown people and photographs that were found
35:40in Rodney Alcala's storage locker.
35:42People Magazine publishes numerous photos of these potential victims.
35:48And the magazine is actually able to locate some of these people and confirm that they are,
35:53in fact, alive.
35:54But there are many more that still remain unknown.
35:57And as a result of that, we got tips and phone calls from across the United States.
36:03In 2010, it's been 42 years since Morgan was attacked.
36:07And she's still haunted by it.
36:10Rod's face was on the news, and I started to have a panic attack.
36:15It was so startling to hear serial killer.
36:18I told my husband what had happened, told him the whole thing.
36:27I blamed myself for so long, and then I finally could see that nothing I was going to do was
36:33going to change what happened.
36:35As Morgan comes to grips with the horror of her attack, she feels that there is one big thing she has to do.
36:45I wanted to contact her, but how do you say to somebody we were both raped by the same guy in the same house.
36:59I mean, just, I felt so much guilt.
37:02I thought she'd hate me.
37:03I spent a couple days trying to write the perfect thing to just apologize to her, you know.
37:19And I sent her the letter.
37:21She let me know that she had great regret and sorrow, that she held and carried this guilt.
37:31I said, there was nothing to forgive.
37:34I don't hold you responsible for anything that happened to me.
37:37I mean, and I don't think that there was anything either of us could have done to have changed the way things happened.
37:46Tali saying she forgave me changed everything.
37:51It was definitely a huge step to my recovery.
37:57When I went to see her, I told her, you know, I said, for years I've wanted to hold you.
38:02And are you okay with that?
38:04And she said yes.
38:06Just grabbed her, you know.
38:08And I just tugged her.
38:09I couldn't let go.
38:10It was just wonderful.
38:12We spent a couple days together, and we were like sisters.
38:18She cares for me immensely.
38:20I love her.
38:21We just have a bond.
38:22It's just, I can't explain it.
38:24And she became very important to me.
38:27A very important relationship for me.
38:29The so-called dating game killer died early this morning while still awaiting his execution.
38:37When Rod died, I cried, and I couldn't stop crying.
38:46And I always thought when he died, I would laugh and dance and sing, you know.
38:51It was never more real to me than that day.
38:54I don't know why.
38:55I couldn't stop thinking about all the darkness and all the pain he had brought into the world.
39:03When evil touches you, it changes you.
39:06But evil will never own you.
39:09I try very hard to live that way, that I just will not let evil own me or change my decisions.
39:18Both Morgan and Tally beat the odds.
39:25They've survived a serial killer.
39:27They've gone on to have productive lives.
39:31They were very lucky.
39:32It doesn't, you know, just doesn't happen.
39:34Will I forget?
39:37No, never.
39:40Sometimes when I close my eyes at night, he's still there.
39:44But I'll be okay.
39:48We have cleared multiple cases since Rodney Alcala was convicted.
39:53There's nine absolutely that he committed, but we know that he's responsible for many, many more.
39:58He was prolific.
39:59If you see something, say something.
40:02I mean, thank goodness or I wouldn't be here today.
40:06The world is always a better place when citizens get involved.
40:11When as a society, we put blinders and walk away.
40:15That will be our downfall.
40:18I want to share my experience so that maybe another 16-year-old girl doesn't bow to peer pressure
40:26and go someplace she shouldn't be.
40:28and she calls home for help.
40:32You know, Rod brought so much darkness into this world.
40:35I just, I really want to bring a little light into all that darkness.
40:40I just want to make a difference.
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41:02A CIDADE NO BRASIL
41:32A CIDADE NO BRASIL
42:02I survived a serial killer.
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