Ghislaine Maxwell Wants A Pardon From Trump

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TYTurks News Channel #TYT #TheYoungTurks #BreakingNews  According to Michael Wolff, the White House thinks Ghislaine Maxwell’s family leaked Jeffrey Epstein’s “birthday book” to the Wall Street Journal. Ana Kasparian discusses on The Young Turks.   CHAPTERS:  0.00 Maxwell's INSANE Demands  3.00 Who's Behind The Birthday Book?  5.00 This Would Be An Admission Of Guilt  8.00 Americans DO NOT Want This  10.00 Giuffre's Family Says NO PARDON  "NEW: Michael Wolff reveals the White House believes Ghislaine Maxwell’s family leaked Jeffrey Epstein’s “birthday book” to the Wall Street Journal to let Donald Trump know she has dirt on him. This is why the DOJ frantically met with her to find out what else she has on him and why he’s considering pardoning her. "  #TYT #TheYoungTurks #BreakingNews  TYT is the largest online news network in the country. It presents news, context and analysis. We have dozens of on-air hosts on half a dozen major channels on almost all the platforms. We also have a live 24-hour news channel that features all our shows.  #TYT #TheYoungTurks #BreakingNews

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00:00Would you consider a pardon or a commutation for Ghislaine Maxwell if you cooperated?

00:04It's something I haven't thought about.

00:06It's really something I'm allowed to do it, but it's something I have not thought about.

00:12Well, as the Epstein drama continues to unfold, Americans are wondering whether

00:18President Donald Trump is serious about potentially pardoning a convicted pedophile groomer,

00:24Ghislaine Maxwell. Now, Maxwell has been urging the Supreme Court to overturn

00:29her conviction, and I don't think the Supreme Court should do that either. And now she's making

00:35an insane number of demands in exchange for her testimony before the House Oversight Committee

00:42on the Epstein files, which members of Trump's administration promised they would release

00:47and then reneged on that promise. So her demands include a grant of formal immunity.

00:53The interview cannot happen at the correctional facility where she's serving her sentence.

01:01She's also demanding to prepare adequately for any congressional deposition and to ensure

01:05accuracy and fairness. We would require the committee's questions in advance.

01:11Surprise questioning would be both inappropriate and unproductive. Who the hell are you, bitch?

01:15Okay, there's more. The interview would be scheduled only after the resolution of her Supreme Court

01:23petition and her forthcoming habeas corpus petition. Listen, the second, if I were Ghislaine Maxwell,

01:33the second I hear that people close to Trump are gonna come to the prison I'm being held at to talk

01:39to me about the Epstein files, I'd be worried about getting killed. Okay, but this woman's making all

01:45sorts of demands. She's feeling pretty good. Now, the question is, will Trump actually pardon her

01:52eventually? And will Congress cave to her demands? Congress has pushed back. They're kind of disgusted

01:58by this whole idea of pardoning her. Maxwell's attorneys have stated that if the demands are not met,

02:04she'll have no choice but to invoke her Fifth Amendment rights. But now there's a twist to the story

02:08because according to Trump biographer Michael Wolfe, the White House is seriously on edge

02:15because they think Maxwell might have dirt on Trump. Now, look, I don't know what kind of evidence

02:23Michael Wolfe has to push this theory, but he is pushing this theory. And he even says that Maxwell's

02:30family leaked Epstein's birthday book to the Wall Street Journal. At least Trump thinks that that's

02:37what happened. In fact, why don't I not put words in Michael Wolfe's mouth? Why don't you hear it

02:41for yourselves? In the White House, they believe that the story in the Wall Street Journal about

02:51the birthday greeting that Donald Trump, the salacious birthday greeting that Donald Trump

02:58sent Jeffrey Epstein in 2003 on the occasion of his 50th birthday was a leak from the Maxwell family.

03:09And in the White House, they regarded this as, quote, a shot across the bow. So a threat,

03:16that Ghislaine had damaging material on Donald Trump. So Donald Trump's lawyer, who, as it happens,

03:30is also the number two in the Justice Department. But principally is Donald Trump's own lawyer went down.

03:42And I expect to try to figure out exactly what Ghislaine Maxwell has.

03:51Now remember, Ghislaine Maxwell perjured herself through her trial. She's not to be trusted. I don't

03:57think we're going to get any new relevant information from her. Just release the files. Release the evidence

04:04that was used to convict her and the evidence that was used to go after Jeffrey Epstein. Why is this so

04:09difficult? But I'm curious what you think, Kate. Do you think that there might be some value

04:13in interviewing or hearing from Ghislaine Maxwell?

04:18No, probably not. I think it's probably a waste of time. I mean, we have thousands of documents

04:24that aren't released yet. Presumably, she had some contribution to those documents in the first place.

04:30So why are we, why do we need to talk to her again? Like the idea that everyone in the country is so

04:37concerned about the Epstein case, and to resolve that, we're going to pardon his co-conspirator.

04:45It was like, what's, that's literally not what a single person is asking for.

04:49And I honestly don't think that he's going to. I think he would if it was just up to him.

04:54But I think someone will tackle him before he gets the chance to pardon her.

04:59Well, pardoning her, in my opinion, is almost like an admission of guilt, right? It's almost like,

05:06let me do a favor for this horrible person who should not be freed into the general population.

05:14So she doesn't release anything about me that might make me look bad. And by the way, Trump's been doing

05:21press conferences where reporters don't even bring up the Epstein files. He just brings it up himself.

05:27It's like, are you, are you stupid? Like, what are you doing? You want the story to go away,

05:32but you're bringing it up yourself. And it also doesn't help that he's made a number of creepily

05:38supported, supportive comments about Ghislaine Maxwell in the past, like wishing her well.

05:44Mm-hmm. And he also said that he was not looking for anything bad for her.

05:49Really? A groomer? Like the person who recruited

05:52minors who were then raped by Epstein? And by the way, sometimes herself as well.

05:58Yeah.

05:59Disgusting.

05:59I mean, so many of the victims have said that she, in their minds, is worse than Epstein because

06:07they trusted her.

06:09Yeah.

06:09Because she made them feel comfortable and they thought, you know, nothing bad is going

06:14to happen to me with this creepy older man because this woman is here. And so, you know,

06:18I must be safe. And, you know, Virginia Giuffre said that Ghislaine Maxwell was the one to molest her

06:25first. So, in no world should this woman be allowed out of prison. The fact that he's even

06:32entertaining it is heinous. I mean, it's, I can't believe it. And he keeps saying all of these

06:38just blatant lies about his relationship with Ghislaine and what happened with Virginia Giuffre,

06:45like things that can be easily fact-checked. Like his whole story about how Epstein poached

06:51Virginia from him. And that's why they fell out makes literally no sense.

06:57Yeah.

06:57He was on the Mar-a-Lago registry until 2007.

07:01And allegedly, Virginia was poached in 2000. So what happened? Like I thought you guys had

07:06a point out. There's just so many things that don't add up. And he needs to stop talking about

07:11it because every time he speaks, it makes it clear that he's covering something up.

07:16Yeah, 100%. I mean, I kind of went, because I've been open about why I care about this story,

07:21right? It goes beyond the co-conspirators. Well, actually, I really want to know the

07:27co-conspirators. But it goes even beyond that. For me, it's not just about Trump. I wasn't really

07:31focused on him potentially being one of the predators implicated in this. I was worried that

07:38this is legitimately a blackmail operation carried out by a foreign government to control our foreign

07:45policy. And that's concerning, very concerning. But now, because of Trump's public statements and

07:51his behavior, I'm like, oh, I think he might be implicated in the Epstein files. He's acting

07:57very strange. And by the way, it's a generous way of describing it. He's acting like someone who's

08:03guilty. So look, if he does decide to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell and go down this path, it could

08:12really hurt him politically because most Americans are not about it.

08:17They are not in favor of pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell. According to a new poll from

08:20The Economist and YouGov, a majority of Americans do not want Trump to pardon Maxwell.

08:26And that includes 64% of all US citizens. What's up with the ones who want to pardon her?

08:33What's going on? Are you implicated? Okay. 75% of Democrats surveyed said they do not want her

08:40pardoned. Meaning what? I can't believe that 5% of Democrats want her pardoned. What's wrong with

08:50these people? And then you have 59% of Republicans who do not want her pardoned. Amazing. Okay.

08:59So that's the situation. And so the poll comes at a time when we're seeing Trump's approval rating

09:04continuing to hit historic lows for other reasons as well. So for the last two weeks,

09:1055% of Americans have disapproved and 41% of Americans have approved of his performance in

09:15office. And for the two weeks before that, 53% disapproved and 42% approved. And Trump stated,

09:25or I should say Trump started his second term with a 49% approval, 43% disapproval. So you can see that

09:33the numbers are starting to go down. And then in addition to most Americans not wanting to see

09:40Ghislaine Maxwell freed, you also have the woman that you referenced earlier, Kate, you have Virginia

09:46Giuffre, who is begging or her family essentially begging Trump to not pardon Maxwell. And if you

09:54recall earlier this week, Trump admitted that she was stolen by Epstein from Mar-a-Lago.

10:02So let's take a look at the next video. People were taken out of the spa, hired by him. In other

10:09words, God. And other people would come and complain, this guy is taking people from the spa.

10:16I didn't know that. And then when I heard about it, I told them, I said, listen,

10:20we don't want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa. I don't want him taking people.

10:25And he was fine. And then not too long after that, he did it again. And I said, out of here.

10:32Does that include Virginia Giuffre?

10:36I don't know. I think she worked at the spa. I think so. He stole her.

10:44I think you sound like you're covering something up on this. I don't know. I think so. Maybe.

10:482009 was when Virginia Giuffre decided to sue Epstein and made her claims public in 2015.

10:56Other survivors have stated that her courage gave them the strength to share their stories as well.

11:02And tragically, she allegedly committed suicide earlier this year.

11:07So she was working at Mar-a-Lago at the time that she met Maxwell and Epstein. According to

11:12the New York Times in the year 2000, court records show Maxwell struck up a conversation with her

11:17outside a locker room at Mar-a-Lago. Giuffre was only 17 years old at the time. And she was a spa

11:25attendant at the club, having gotten the job through her father, who worked there as a maintenance man.

11:33And according to Giuffre, Maxwell offered her a job on the spot as a masseuse for Epstein after

11:39seeing that she was reading a book about massage, telling her that she did not need to have any

11:45experience. She said that when she was brought to Epstein's Palm Beach home, she found him laying

11:50naked on a table. Maxwell, she claimed, instructed her on how to massage him. And in a statement to

11:56the BBC, Giuffre's family is essentially begging Trump not to pardon Maxwell. Okay, Sky and Amanda

12:07Roberts and Danny and Lynette Wilson wrote, Ghislaine Maxwell is a monster who deserves to

12:13rot in prison for the rest of her life. She must remain in prison. Anything less would go down in

12:19history as being one of the highest travesties of justice. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison.

12:25So there is a possibility that if she doesn't get pardoned, there will be a day when she's released,

12:30which upsets me. But I don't know, maybe I'm a little too tough on crime.

12:35But final thoughts on this whole debacle, Kate?

12:39Yeah, I just, I mean, the statement from the family is, I mean, pretty gut-wrenching. I mean,

12:46these poor people have already lost their family member, I mean, presumably to suicide just earlier

12:53this year. And now they're getting, I mean, I can't even imagine seeing every day the whole world

13:00talking about this case again, and being put through all of this again, and having to worry that

13:07the person who assaulted and groomed your child or your sister is going to be freed by the President

13:14of the United States. Because he might be implicated and he wants to make sure everything,

13:19like he's doing everything he can not to have that come out. I just, it's just a disgusting

13:25situation. I feel so awful for them. I do too. And I didn't get a chance to watch,

13:32there was apparently some stream that Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes did where they were

13:38skewering Trump. I don't know if you watched any of it, but I'm wondering if the topic of discussion

13:44was the Epstein files. Yeah, I believe it was. I think they were. Yeah. And Trump was not happy

13:52that Alex Jones was criticizing him. And so people in his administration contacted Alex Jones,

13:59according to him, and asked him what he wanted in exchange for shutting up about it.

14:05Wow. Wow. That's incredible. I didn't know that. Well, there you have it. Looks like Trump is

14:11definitely engaging in a cover up here. It's so pathetic, especially when he used the Epstein

14:16files as a political attack against Bill Clinton and other Democrats. I guess he didn't expect that

14:24this might turn around and actually bite him in the ass. He's been playing with fire forever and he

14:28never suffers consequences for it. And for the first time he is, and he's shell shocked. He doesn't

14:34know how to handle it. It's amazing. All right. Well, we got to pay close attention to Alex Jones's

14:40behavior to see if he listens to Daddy Trump and shuts his mouth. I'm hoping he won't,

14:46but we'll see. Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets his swings.

14:50Totally not true, but it does keep you updated on our live shows.

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