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President Trump's attempt to distract his MAGA base with a fake scandal about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama Russia scandal. Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola and Michael Shure discuss on The Young Turks.

CHAPTERS:
0.00 Is Trump Leading On MAGA??
3.00 MAGA Hoax Gets DEBUNKED
7.00 How Durham Fixed His Report
9.40 This Is The Best You've Got?
12.30 A Big Bag Of Squirrels

"The Trump-era special counsel who scoured the Russia investigation for wrongdoing gathered evidence that undermines a theory pushed by some Republicans that Hillary Clinton’s campaign conspired to frame Donald J. Trump for colluding with Moscow in the 2016 election, information declassified on Thursday shows."
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00:00Republicans want it like tomorrow. I want to see Barack Obama dragged out of his
00:03Martha's Vineyard mansion in handcuffs. We all know that President Trump has an
00:08insane sense of humor. He likes to troll, and we all know that.
00:13He's the master at that. Could that, in a way, mislead the base thinking that that's
00:20going to happen? I think there's a chance that that could happen, because people will see that
00:25and go, it's gonna happen next week. When it doesn't, they get a little disappointed.
00:29And many of them, of course, are already disappointed, which is probably why people
00:34like in that first clip Newsmax host Rob Finnerty are suddenly frothing at the mouth of the possibility
00:38of people who haven't held political power for years and years and years being arrested.
00:43A lot more fun to focus on that as a MAGA person than on the fact that Donald Trump isn't doing
00:47a great job. But in the second video, you saw Brian Glenn. He's the White House correspondent
00:52for Real America's Voice. More importantly, he is Marjorie Taylor Greene's boyfriend.
00:57It's more important because that's how he got his job, of course.
01:01And he accurately points out that when Trump promises over and over effectively with his
01:06memes and with his deep fake videos that Barack Obama is gonna be arrested and
01:10Oprah Winfrey is gonna be arrested and Beyonce is gonna be arrested.
01:13If it doesn't actually happen, which it's not going to because that's
01:17cuckoo for cocoa puffs, they could end up being mad at him as a result of that.
01:22But meanwhile, some stuff has been developing around Hillary Clinton at the very least,
01:27tangentially Barack Obama as well. And some of the new reporting kind of throws a wrench in
01:32the works of the idea that ignore the Epstein thing, Hillary Clinton and Russia is the real scandal.
01:38So we're gonna get to this, all the details, the new reporting. But Cenk,
01:42are they ever gonna give up on trying to arrest these people?
01:45So look, dare not. And Donald Trump's a giant fraud, we all know this.
01:53We're gonna show you in this story, there's two parts of it in particular that I'm gonna point
01:58out that are deeply ironic, given all the things that they've said. Just hold all politicians
02:06accountable. If you're taking your politician's word for it, whether they're a Republican or a Democrat,
02:12you're nuts, okay? If a politician's talking, there's an excellent chance they're lying.
02:17So in this case, the lie is super obvious. And of course, they tried to frame it as the
02:23exact opposite of what's true. Exactly, and so here we're talking about
02:27the thing that Tulsi Gabbard came out with suspiciously close to MAGA blowing up in anger
02:32at Donald Trump that, we got Hillary Clinton and Obama on Russia, Russia, Russia.
02:37In some way that nobody can explain in a fashion that a rational person would consider to be serious.
02:46Now, the issue is the New York Times, as I said, is poking some more holes in the story.
02:50So they have the reporting concerns two emails from July 2016. The first said that Hillary Clinton
02:58had approved a campaign proposal to tie Trump to Russia to distract from the scandal over her use
03:04of a private email server. If you're new to American politics, it used to be that you'd have a big
03:10scandal about a private email server. It's fairly quaint at this point, but at that point, it was
03:16considered very serious. The second claim that a Clinton advisor was proposing a plan to demonize
03:21Putin and Trump, adding later the FBI will put more oil onto the fire. And those emails were attributed
03:27to a man named Leonard Bernardo of the Open Society Foundations Network. That is the organization behind
03:33George Soros' philanthropic efforts. So it's basically like a perfect storm of a conspiracy
03:40if you're from the right. There's an issue though. So he denies sending the emails,
03:44which you might say, well, he has an interest in lying about that.
03:48But evidently, the special counsel at the time, John Durham concluded that the Russians had
03:54probably faked the key emails, which is almost like a perfect Ouroboros of like,
04:00they're gonna accuse the Russians of being tied to Donald Trump. So the Russians strike back by
04:07creating a scandal that also takes the shadow of the suspicion off of them.
04:13It's kind of perfect at this point. But in that report by John Durham, he says their best assessment
04:19were that the emails purported to be from Bernardo were ultimately a composite of several emails
04:24that were obtained through Russian intelligence hacking of the US-based think tanks, including
04:28the Open Society Foundations, the Carnegie Endowment, and others.
04:32So at the same time, the Trump administration is claiming that that annex, that report,
04:38proves the exact opposite. And we can jump ahead to Graphic Six, where Kash Patel, director of the FBI,
04:43for some reason, writes that the annex revealed a highly classified piece of the Durham report,
04:48evidence that the Clinton campaign plotted to frame President Trump and fabricate the Russia collusion
04:54hopes. Which is again, the exact opposite of what the guy in charge of the report is saying in plain
05:00English. And by the way, even if the emails were authentic, I don't exactly know why you would look
05:08at this and think, well, obviously Clinton is gonna rot in jail for the rest of her life.
05:11Like, let's say she was worried about the private email server. And she's like, you know what we
05:16should do? We should distract from it. We're gonna tie him to Russia. We're gonna demonize Putin and
05:22demonize Trump. That just sounds like a campaign, baby. That doesn't sound like they broke the law
05:28necessarily. Now, if they're manipulating evidence or if they're forcing FBI agents to do their bidding,
05:33then that would be serious. I mean, imagine if you had someone in the White House who had
05:38turned like the DOJ into just their private lawyers and all that. That would obviously be a scandal.
05:44I hope that never happens. So I don't necessarily understand it.
05:47I know that they have to pretend they have something to distract from the Epstein thing.
05:52But this is less than a nothing burger at this point.
05:54Yeah, it's not less, it's more, it's worse.
06:00So Durham, the guy who did the report,
06:02he was supposed to be the hatchet man for Trump. The problem is that if you just flat out lie in
06:09court proceedings, you could get disbarred and it could ruin your career. It has happened to
06:14some of Trump's lawyers in the past like Rudy Giuliani. So when he finds absolutely no evidence
06:19of Hillary Clinton or anyone creating this thing just to bury Trump and it's all a secret plot
06:28against him, etc. So he's like, okay, there was no plot, okay? But he says,
06:32because he's got to put something in the report, otherwise Daddy Trump's going to be super mad.
06:36He suggests that Hillary Clinton might have insinuated that Trump was working with Russia.
06:43First of all, I agree with John, for either side, isn't that just politics? Here, I'll insinuate it.
06:50I think Hillary Clinton was working to help Israel during that campaign and so was Donald Trump. Wow,
06:57what a big deal, okay? So okay, fine though, she's outrageous, how dare you say that, right?
07:02About Hillary, turns out he put in the appendix, by the way, there's actually no evidence to that
07:08effect. And there's actually overwhelming evidence that she was not doing that. Even though I think
07:14she's perfectly within her rights to do that, Durham knew and he released the report but didn't
07:20release the appendix. And in the appendix was the real evidence that she did not, her campaign
07:26right or wrong, did not try to connect Trump and Russia. So when he then insinuates that she did,
07:33he's a giant liar, and he was hired to lie. So now his lies have been revealed.
07:40But will Trump supporters look at that and go, wow, man, I didn't know that, okay.
07:45So I guess they didn't try to smear him that way, no chance. I often talk about the Trump voters,
07:52their giant spectrum, hardcore mega to independents, etc. For the overwhelming
07:56majority of Trump voters on this issue, they won't see straight. They'll just go, no, no, no,
08:01Russia, Russia, Russia, Hillary's guilty. I don't care what the appendix says.
08:06I don't care what the evidence is, but the evidence is overwhelming.
08:09There's, and I'm gonna read you a quote in a minute, but Michael.
08:12Well, first of all, I mean, there's so much here. The notion, and John was so, first of all,
08:17John, I love when you said, Kash Patel, who for some reason is the head of the FBI.
08:22That was really funny. Just what John said is true. She was running for president. That's what
08:29you do when you're running for president. You associate, you tie, you get people, you insinuate.
08:34They did it with Barack Obama and a minister. They did it with, Nixon had it happen.
08:40He did it with McGovern. I mean, it's just part of running for president. As you say,
08:46Trump and Putin are bedfellows here, right? And you wanna tie them together. You wanna associate
08:51with them so you can beat them, right? You wanna associate themselves with one another for that
08:55reason. And the notion that there was something nefarious is really drummed up here. This is what
09:05John Durham, who you remember, as Cenk pointed out, was put there as Trump's hatchet guy.
09:10And he even concluded that the emails were faked and that later on that they were probably compiled
09:20from different places. And the fact that you got these people going after
09:27Obama and Clinton and saying they need to be arrested.
09:30His was the campaign that said lock her up. He's been doing it forever. And meantime,
09:36the only person who's been found guilty in court who had to turn themselves into the authorities
09:41is Trump himself. Yeah, this is just, I mean,
09:44like they've had now like a month of this Epstein thing. And I just, I feel like they're calling like
09:50sleepy Joe, like sleepy Trump, sleepy Maga, like you haven't come up with anything better than this.
09:54This is the best you've got. Now, I understand they don't, for some, they don't need to do any better.
10:00They do this, the stumbling bumbling thing on its face, it contradicts itself.
10:05And still representative Andy Ogles can be like, all of them need to be arrested. Obama, Clinton,
10:10Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Biden, they went after Trump for nothing. It's time we go after them for
10:15everything. Because that email was already in his drafts, okay? He was like, whatever they release,
10:21I'll just say this. It doesn't matter if it's convincing, it doesn't have to be.
10:25The point of putting out each of these details is so that Charlie Kirk has plausible deniability.
10:31Well, I would talk about Epstein, but I gotta talk about this. I mean, it's so much more important.
10:37Think about it. Do I seem like an outsider? Do I seem like I'm holding powerful people accountable?
10:42Follow the question, Charlie, where are the Epstein files? Because he still hasn't released them,
10:46seems kind of suspicious. Why hasn't he released those damn feisty files?
10:50And so that's all this is. And for any regular MAGA people out there,
10:55the ones who are not, they didn't get their house paid for them by billionaires or whatever,
11:00don't be bought so easily. At least demand an interesting distraction,
11:05some actual red meat with real meat on the bones. This is pathetic.
11:09Yeah, and to be fair to a lot of the guys who voted for Trump, mainly the independent podcasters and
11:15stuff. They've been calling him out left and right on many other things, including by the way,
11:20overstepping on immigration and too many abuses and cruelty, etc. But stuff like this,
11:26this is core MAGA. I'd be shocked if they changed their mind. If they did, I mean, that goes to show
11:33enormously open mind. But has it happened yet?
11:35I think this is like the first time I've ever had to give them credit for anything.
11:39Matt Walsh, I think identified this story as a distraction perhaps seen. Interesting.
11:43He also talked about how the renaming the Washington Commanders was an obvious distraction.
11:48And he's like, I know you guys are gonna get on me. He's worried about his audience, right?
11:53But come on, it's an obvious distraction. So hey, like a tiny, tiny sliver of honesty broke out there.
11:59So Matt Walsh is a deep right winger. He's not independent. He's not one of the pie.
12:04He's not in the Rogan camp. He's in the deep right camp, right? So those are different camps. I want
12:09to get back to something in a second, but Michael. Andy Ogles is a crazy person.
12:14He's a member of Congress. He's a nut. He's the person who thought the DEI was involved in that
12:19crash over the Potomac. If there weren't DEI, then there would be a better pilot in the army
12:24helicopter. He's someone who wanted Obama and arrested and Biden arrested for treason.
12:30And he's still to this day, still talks about the 2020 election being unfairly decided.
12:37He's a nut job. So when you hear from these people, there's not a serious strain to it.
12:42These are the extreme real nut jobs. Yeah, but I think it's also
12:47purposeful and strategic. So this is a bag of squirrels. So
12:52what do they do? I mean, we're talking about distracting from the Epstein files,
12:55but the Epstein files in the beginning were also part of the bag of squirrels.
12:59So what would Republicans do? Republicans would say, culture wars. My God,
13:03dude, transports, this, that, the other thing. How M&Ms are dressed, everybody panic, right?
13:09And then the second thing, Epstein files, all the Democrats are hiding it because of
13:13Bill Clinton. When we get in charge, we're going to release Epstein files.
13:16It was just meant to distract you. And then the third thing is this, Dems bad, right? Obama and
13:22Hillary Clinton are the devil and they do something in a pizza basement and we got to get them, right?
13:28By the way, the Democrats have their own version, Trump bad, Trump bad.
13:32Okay, so what are they trying to distract from? Well, one of the stories we're going to cover
13:35later in the show is a good example of it. Every year, both sides have been giving $35 billion a year
13:44to oil and gas companies in subsidies straight out of our pockets to the richest corporations in the
13:50world. Now multiply that by 200 because every giant donor class is getting paid, right?
13:57So Andy Ogles doesn't want you to see the robbery. He's one of the criminals who take the donor money
14:03and goes, yeah, here's all this stuff. You know what they did? They added another $18 billion to
14:08oil subsidies. We complained about $4 billion going to Israel. So 35 billion is going to the oil companies
14:13every year. Now all of a sudden, Jesus, $53 billion going to the oil companies. Why, why? The very last
14:20thing corporate Republicans and corporate Democrats want you to do is to focus on the actual robbery.
14:27So they distract you in 100 ways. Finally, I want to go back to that quote that I mentioned
14:33that we read to you. That a Clinton advisor was proposing a plan to demonize Putin and Trump,
14:39and they say that it was just made up. They figured out that was actually the Russians,
14:44right, who were saying that. Again, demonizing your political opponent is, first of all, Trump 101,
14:51Republican 101, and honestly, politics 101. I mean, what is that? Well, that's not a chart.
14:57Anyway, but that's not the funny part. The funny part is, later the FBI, this is supposed to be a
15:02quote from a Clinton advisor, but obviously written by somebody who was a foreigner. Let the FBI,
15:08later the FBI will put more oil into the fire. Put more oil into the fire is not a saying that
15:18we say in America. Okay, that's guy doing Google Translate. Yeah.
15:22Come on, at least higher guy speaks English. It's like when the end wokeness Twitter account
15:28talked about warm water ports on Twitter. It's like, that's not how Americans talk, dude.
15:33It's too obvious. Every time you ring the bell below,
15:36an angel gets the swings. Totally not true, but it does keep you updated on our live shows.
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