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President Trump Meets meets with the President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen in Scotland.
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00:00Well, thank you very much. It's a beautiful Sunday in Scotland. And we thought we could cut things short by and certainly travel distance by having our meeting here. So we discussed options. And I just it's an honor to have the president of the European Union with us.
00:24Russell has been really done a terrific job for them, not for us. But she's done a great job. And she's highly respected by us also. And we look forward to talking to see if we can do something. We've had a very good relationship over the years, but it's been a very one sided transaction, very unfair to the United States.
00:49And I think both sides want to see a bit fairness. But it's been a very, very one sided deal than it shouldn't be. And so we're here with her very brilliant staff and hopefully we'll resolve a few issues.
01:04But it's a great honor. You know, we just built this ballroom and we're building a great ballroom at the White House. The White House has wanted a ballroom for 150 years, but they never had a real estate person.
01:15You know, nobody, no president knew how to build a ballroom. But this just opened, you know, relatively short time ago. And it's been quite the success.
01:23And I think I was just saying I could take this one, drop it right down there and it would be beautiful. This is exactly what they've wanted. But it's an honor to have you at the new ballroom at Turnberry.
01:33And thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. President. Thank you very much for inviting me here. Indeed, it is today about trade between the European Union and the United States.
01:49We're together the two largest economies worldwide. Right. If you look at the trade volume, it's the biggest trade volume globally with $1.7 trillion among us.
02:02And if you look at our markets, it's a huge market, 800 million people, if you take the United States and the European Union.
02:10So I'm very much looking forward to the discussions we will have now. Our staff have done some of the heavy lifting,
02:18but now it's on us. And you're known as a tough negotiator and dealmaker.
02:27But fair. And fair. And what is in front of us. That's less important.
02:32If we are successful, I think it would be the biggest deal each of us has ever struck.
02:37So I'm very much looking forward. Ever struck by anybody. That's true.
02:41That's true. Right now we have that. That honor goes to Japan.
02:45We just struck a deal with Japan, as you know. And we're very close to a deal with China.
02:50We really sort of made a deal with China. But we'll see how that goes.
02:54And we have numerous other deals. And mostly I'm just going to charge tariffs.
02:59And, you know, it's not a deal per se, but people are going to pay tariffs.
03:02And we're doing them at the low end, not the high end, because we don't want to hurt anybody.
03:05And pretty well. But you and I both figured this is this is really the biggest trading partnership in the world.
03:14So we should give it a shot. Right.
03:16Yeah. I'm much looking forward to that.
03:19Thank you very much. I do, too.
03:21Any questions, please?
03:22I'm actually not in a good mood, but I will tell you, I think the chances are, yeah, I think Ursula would say probably 50 50 of making a deal.
03:42I hope I'd like to make a deal. I think it's good for both. But that's a 50 50.
03:47We have three or four sticking points. I'd rather not get in. We'll be discussing them.
03:54But I think the main sticking point is fairness.
03:59Please.
04:04No, the golf was the golf was beautiful. It's golf can never be bad.
04:09Even if you play badly, it's it's still good.
04:12If you had a bad day on the golf course, it's OK.
04:14It's better than other days. But no, I think I look forward to this meeting.
04:22You know, we've had a hard time with trade with Europe.
04:27Very hard time. And I'd like to see it resolved.
04:32But if it isn't, well, you know, have tariffs and they'll do what they have to do.
04:36But we have a good chance of getting it resolved.
04:38We'll probably know in about an hour. Shouldn't take that long.
04:42You know, it's complicated, but not really complicated when you get right down to it.
04:46Right.
04:49No, no. The August 1st is is there for everyone.
04:53The deals all start on August 1st.
04:56Most of the deals other than steel and aluminum, which we've been getting 50 percent tariffs from, I guess, just about everybody.
05:04And those have come in. And we've taken in, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars just on steel and aluminum.
05:11You've seen the numbers. We had a tremendous amount of money coming over the last month.
05:17And it's coming in, you know, very rapidly, which is fair.
05:21We have a lot of steel mills and plants, aluminum mills and plants being built.
05:25We have a lot of AI being built.
05:27And we have a lot of auto plants being built or going to be built because they don't want to pay tariffs.
05:33So, you know, if they don't want to pay tariffs, the best way to do it is just build your plant in the United States.
05:39Yes, please.
05:39Sir, what do you expect from the Europeans in terms of opening their markets to American products?
05:46Well, they have to open up to American products.
05:48You know, we're open to European products.
05:50And we have been for forever.
05:52I don't think we have.
05:53We just about don't have any.
05:55I don't think we have any product we say you can't sell.
05:57I guess you could get a little bit cute with chips.
06:00But that's, you know, a little bit different category, too.
06:04Now, you know, Europe is very closed.
06:06We don't sell cars into Europe.
06:09We don't sell essentially agriculture of any great degree.
06:12They want to have their farmers do it.
06:14And they want to have their car companies do it.
06:17I'm just I'm not saying anything that nobody knows.
06:20We have a rough situation.
06:22If we want to sell cars in Europe, we're not allowed to.
06:26And as you know, they sell millions and millions of cars.
06:30Mercedes, BMW, so many different Volkswagen, so many different cars and so many millions of cars.
06:39I would imagine number one.
06:40I didn't look at that, but I would imagine number one by far more so than even Japan.
06:44Japan sells a lot of cars, too.
06:47But the Japan deal worked out very favorably, you know, very good.
06:50I think I hope for them, too.
06:53And that's what we want to do.
06:55Make everybody happy.
06:56Yes, please.
06:57Mr. President, should Israel be doing more to allow food into Gaza?
07:00Say it.
07:01Should Israel be doing more to allow food into Gaza?
07:05What did you say?
07:06Israel.
07:07Should Israel be doing more to allow food into Gaza?
07:10Well, you know, we gave $60 million two weeks ago, and nobody even acknowledged it for food.
07:19And it's terrible.
07:22You know, you really at least want to have somebody say thank you.
07:25No other country gave anything.
07:27We gave $60 million two weeks ago for food for Gaza.
07:32And nobody acknowledged it.
07:35Nobody talks about it.
07:37And it makes you feel a little bad when you do that and, you know, you have other countries not giving anything.
07:44None of the European countries, by the way, gave.
07:46I mean, nobody gave but us.
07:49And nobody said, gee, thank you very much.
07:51And it would be nice to have at least a thank you.
07:53And I took a lot of heat.
07:54You know, when I do that, a lot of people aren't happy about that because they say, well, why are we doing it and nobody else?
08:01But I think we had a humanitarian reason for doing it.
08:05What's going to happen?
08:06I don't know.
08:07I can tell you that Hamas, as I said, would happen at the end.
08:12You know, we've gotten back a lot of hostages, a tremendous number of hostages, most of them.
08:17Now we have dead hostages, and the mothers want them back.
08:22And we have 20 people, approximately, that are living.
08:26But we have a lot of bodies, and the parents want those bodies as much as they would want their child if that child were alive.
08:35I was, I met with parents that were, it was so sad.
08:39Sir, please get my son back.
08:42How is your son doing?
08:43Well, he's dead.
08:44But they have his body.
08:46And it's so important.
08:47It's more important.
08:49And it's almost like more, but it's as important as if the child were living.
08:53These people were, I mean, they're devastated.
08:58And I said, when you get it down to a certain number, you're not going to be able to make a deal with Hamas.
09:03Because once they give them up, then they feel that that's going to be the end of them.
09:10And what I said is exactly true.
09:12You know, they had a routine discussion the other day, and all of a sudden they hardened up.
09:16They don't want to give them back.
09:18And so Israel is going to have to make a decision.
09:23I know what I do, but I don't think it's appropriate that I say.
09:26But Israel is going to have to make a decision.
09:29Mr. President, when you were in the Middle East, you talked about the images coming out of Gaza and starving kids.
09:35Those images are still going.
09:37Many of them are much worse.
09:39Thinner children, starving.
09:40What do you see or feel when you look at those images today?
09:44Well, it's terrible.
09:45You know, when I see the children, and when I see, especially over the last couple of weeks,
09:50and people are stealing the food, they're stealing the money.
09:53They're stealing the money for the food.
09:56They're stealing weapons.
09:57They're stealing everything.
09:58It's a mess.
09:59That whole place is a mess.
10:02The Gaza Strip, you know, was given many years ago so that they could have peace.
10:08That didn't work out too well.
10:10When Israel gave that up, whoever was the prime minister at the time, who I know who it was,
10:18but it was not exactly a very clever thing to do.
10:21Because that was given so that they'd finally have peace.
10:24And it's actually made the situation worse.
10:27But we'll see what happens.
10:29I think Iran is acting up.
10:32I think that we have a lot of people acting up.
10:34We have Venezuela acting up in a different way.
10:37They're sending, they continue to send people that we rebuff to our border.
10:42They continue to send drugs into our country.
10:44Venezuela, they've been very nasty.
10:48And we can't let that happen.
10:51And we have other countries too.
10:53We do have, and this is just getting a little off subject, but we have now the safest border we've ever had.
10:58And I think in many respects, we probably have the most successful, and I say it all the time.
11:03Every leader, when I went to NATO the other day, every leader said, you have the hottest country in the world.
11:09We have the hottest country in the world now.
11:12We're taking in hundreds of billions of dollars.
11:14We have the highest stock market we've ever had.
11:19We have the best numbers we've ever had.
11:21But we have hundreds of billions of dollars pouring into our country.
11:25And I think it's the hottest.
11:27And by the way, one year ago, our country was dead.
11:31We had a dead country because of an incompetent president and incompetent Democrats.
11:37All they know how to do is talk and think about conspiracy theories and nonsense.
11:42If they'd waste their time talking about America being great again, it would be so much nicer, so much easier.
11:49Be very successful.
11:51But we were a dead country, and now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world.
11:55Yeah.
11:55Any other questions?
11:56President Trump, on this particular deal, if you manage to do a deal today,
12:01will that be the end of the matter, or could there be more tariffs coming particularly on fire?
12:05No, if we do a deal today with the European Union, that will be the end of it.
12:10Yeah, we'll go, I guess, a number of years at least before we have to even discuss it again.
12:16No, that would be the end of it.
12:18And this is the biggest deal.
12:19People don't realize this is bigger than any other deal.
12:22We have great countries, great countries.
12:27I'm familiar with many of them.
12:29So are you.
12:31And this is really the biggest deal.
12:32This is the, I guess, we're the biggest out there, and they're the second.
12:37And when we come together, this will be the biggest deal.
12:40If that happens, then it could happen.
12:42Should happen.
12:43Okay?
12:45Will pharmaceuticals be part of today's?
12:47No, it won't.
12:48Pharmaceuticals will be, I mean, could be, we'll do something.
12:51But basically pharmaceuticals won't be part of it because we have to have them built, made in the United States.
12:58And we want them made in the United States.
13:00And I think it's easy to say, and I think it's important to say pharmaceuticals are very special.
13:07We can't be in a position where we don't have, where we're relying on other countries.
13:11Now, Europe is going to make pharmaceuticals, drugs, and everything else for us, too.
13:15We're going to do a lot, but we're going to have also our own.
13:18A question for President Mondawai, please.
13:19Yes.
13:20Can you give your assessment of what you feel the chances are a deal of?
13:24The President just talked about 50-50 chance and the biggest obstacle of being fairness.
13:28What would you say are those things for you?
13:30I think the President is right.
13:32We have a 50 to 50 percent chance to strike a deal.
13:36And, indeed, it is about rebalancing.
13:38So you can call it fairness.
13:40You can call it rebalancing.
13:42We have a surplus.
13:43The United States has a deficit, and we have to rebalance it.
13:47We have an excellent trade relation.
13:48It's a huge volume of trade that we have together.
13:52So we will make it more sustainable.
13:54Mr. Trump, can you do better than a 15 percent tariff rate for the EU?
14:00Better meaning lower?
14:01Yeah.
14:01No.
14:02Mr. President, to return to Gaza, you're going to meet the British Prime Minister tomorrow.
14:06He's going to ask you to consider again peace talks between Israel and Hamas.
14:10Are you now saying there's no point in time to receive?
14:12Well, we're meeting about a lot of things.
14:14We have our trade deal, and it's been a great deal.
14:17It's good for them and good for us, I think.
14:21You know, the UK is very happy.
14:23They've been trying for 12 years to get it, and they got it.
14:26And it's a great trade deal for both.
14:29It works out very well.
14:30But we are discussing, we'll be discussing that.
14:32I think we're going to be discussing a lot about Israel.
14:36They're very much involved in terms of wanting something to happen.
14:39And he's doing a very good job, by the way.
14:41Also on Gaza, sir, did you speak with Prime Minister Netanyahu this weekend about getting more aid for Gaza?
14:47I talked to him, yeah, I did.
14:49I talked to him about a lot of things.
14:52I talked to him about Iran.
14:54I think Iran's been very nasty with their words, with their mouth.
14:57I think they've been very nasty.
15:03They got the hell knocked out of them, and they, I don't think they know it.
15:08You know, I actually don't think they know it.
15:09They really do.
15:10The whole thing's a con job.
15:12We have a lot of con jobs going on.
15:13But Iran was beaten up very badly, for good reason.
15:22We cannot have them have a nuclear weapon.
15:25But they still talk about enrichment.
15:27I mean, who would do that?
15:28You just come out of something that's so bad, and they talk about, we want to continue enrichment.
15:34Who would say that?
15:35How stupid can you be to say that?
15:37So we're not going to allow that to happen.
15:40We're not allowing that to happen.
15:41Did you talk about more aid into Gaza?
15:44Will I do more aid?
15:45Yeah.
15:46The U.S.
15:47The U.S. is going to do more aid for Gaza.
15:49But we'd like to have other countries participate.
15:52We're going to mention that to the European Union today.
15:56You know, that's an international problem.
15:59It's not a U.S. problem.
16:00It's an international problem.
16:01And we're giving a lot of money and a lot of food and a lot of everything.
16:05If we weren't there, I think people would have starved, frankly.
16:09They would have starved.
16:10And it's not like they're eating well.
16:13But a lot of that food is getting stolen by Hamas.
16:17You know, they're stealing the food.
16:18They're stealing a lot of things.
16:20You ship it in, and they steal it.
16:23Then they sell it.
16:23Mr. President, you said that Europe is being crushed by mass migration.
16:29And I wonder if your friends on the inside of the room agree with you on that.
16:33Well, I'd let you respond to that if you'd like.
16:36So, we have been working intensively on the topic of regular migration.
16:41And we have, from the very beginning, said that migration is a European challenge that needs a European answer.
16:49As Europeans, we will fulfill our international obligations, as we've done in the past, also in the future.
16:57But we, as Europeans, are the ones who decide who comes to the European Union and under what circumstances, and not the smugglers and traffickers.
17:06That's the principle in which we are working.
17:08I will say this, you know, they did ask me when I got off the plane.
17:15Immigration Europe has a tremendous problem, and we do too.
17:19But we've sealed our borders.
17:20We have nobody coming in, and we have hundreds of thousands of people being taken out, and the bad ones first.
17:27And I think we're doing a very good job of that.
17:29But we had, I mean, it literally registered zero people last month.
17:33You probably saw that.
17:34Nobody.
17:36And Europe has a very similar problem.
17:40I think they're going to end up in the same place.
17:42You might as well go there quicker.
17:44And the other thing I say to Europe, we will not allow a windmill to be built in the United States.
17:50They're killing us.
17:51They're killing the beauty of our scenery, our valleys, our beautiful plains.
17:57And I'm not talking about airplanes.
17:59I'm talking about beautiful plains, beautiful areas in the United States.
18:04And you look up, and you see windmills all over the place.
18:07It's a horrible thing.
18:09It's the most expensive form of energy.
18:11It's no good.
18:11They're made in China, almost all of them.
18:15When they start to rust and rot in eight years, you can't really turn them off.
18:20You can't bury them.
18:20They won't let you bury the propellers, you know, the props, because there's a certain type of fiber that doesn't go well with the land.
18:28That's what they say.
18:29The environmentalists say you can't bury them because the fiber doesn't go well with the land.
18:34In other words, if you bury it, it will harm our soil.
18:38The whole thing is a con job.
18:39It's very expensive.
18:41And in all fairness, Germany tried it, and wind doesn't work.
18:46You need subsidy for wind, and energy should not need subsidy.
18:49With energy, you make money.
18:51You don't lose money.
18:52But more important than that is it ruins the landscape.
18:55It kills the birds.
18:57They're noisy.
18:59You know, you have a certain place in the Massachusetts area that over the last 20 years had one or two whales wash ashore.
19:08And over the last short period of time, they had 18.
19:12It's driving them loco, it's driving them crazy.
19:17Now, windmills will not come.
19:19It's not going to happen in the United States.
19:22And it's very expensive.
19:24And I would love to see.
19:25I mean, today, I'm playing the best course, I think, in the world, Turnberry.
19:29Even though I own it, it's probably the best course in the world, right?
19:32And I look over the horizon, and I see nine windmills, like, great, at the end of the 18th.
19:39I said, isn't that a shame?
19:40What a shame.
19:42You have the same thing all over, all over Europe in particular.
19:45You have windmills all over the place.
19:46Some of the countries are prohibited.
19:49But people ought to know that these windmills are very destructive.
19:55They're environmentally unsound, just the exact opposite.
19:58Because the environmentalists, they're not really environmentalists.
20:01They're political hacks.
20:03They're, these are people that, they almost want to harm the country.
20:09But you look at these beautiful landscapes all over, all over the, you know, the world.
20:13Many countries have gotten smart.
20:15They will not allow it.
20:17They will not.
20:17It's the worst form of energy, the most expensive form of energy.
20:21But windmills should not be allowed.
20:24Okay.
20:28I did.
20:30Are they doing enough to stop the time?
20:32I hope so.
20:33You're talking about Cambodia and Thailand?
20:36So I had an interesting time.
20:37We're dealing with Thailand, and we do a lot of trade with Thailand and with Cambodia.
20:43And yet, I'm reading that they're killing each other, you know.
20:46They're fighting.
20:47They're in a war.
20:47And I say, this should be an easy one for me, because I've settled with India and Pakistan
20:53and Serbia and Kosovo was going at it, you know, but they have for a long time, in all
20:57fairness, right?
20:58You know about that.
20:59And, and others, the Congo.
21:04And, you know, what's, what's gone on there?
21:06That's been a horrible thing with Rwanda.
21:10That's been a horrible thing.
21:11In 31 years, 7 million, 8 million people killed, machetes, machetes all over the place.
21:19It's a terrible thing.
21:21We, we got that one solved.
21:22And we did five of them.
21:25And I was saying, you know, we have a trade deal.
21:28We were working on another, we finalized another trade deal yesterday.
21:31And I asked my people, I said, how are we doing with Cambodia and how are we doing with Thailand?
21:37And, and they say, they're going to be coming in at some point to talk.
21:41I said, well, let's call them right now.
21:43So I called the prime ministers of each.
21:45And I said, we're not going to make a trade deal unless you settle the war.
21:49A lot of people are killed.
21:50You know that in a short period of time, the border, they're fighting pretty like wild.
21:56And I spoke to both of the prime ministers.
21:58And I think by the time I got it off, I think they want to settle now.
22:02I know they, they're meeting today or tomorrow and we're, we're going to work with them.
22:07Marco Rubio is working with him also, his people and him.
22:11I think we're going to get that.
22:13That would be a great thing, but that's going to, that would have turned out to be a bad one.
22:17And I will tell you, India and Pakistan, they were really getting ready to go at it.
22:23And so getting those things settled, if I can do it, and if I can use trade to do that, it's, you know, it's my honor.
22:29But I had great talks with two very good people that, um, I, they both really would like to make a deal.
22:36So we'll see what happens.
22:38Okay.
22:38How about one more, two more?
22:39Mr. President, Europe is now spending a lot more on defense next to you.
22:43They are.
22:43Should they get a fairer deal on trade and exchange?
22:46Well, they're spending a lot on defense, but we're spending a lot more.
22:49And, you know, and we've been very generous to NATO for many, many years.
22:55And, uh, no, but we had a terrific meeting with NATO.
22:59I'd love to do as well.
23:01We had a meeting where they put up 5% instead of 2% and they're going to pay it instead of not paying.
23:08Because, as you know, many people didn't pay the 2% or anywhere near it.
23:11And the 2% was too low.
23:13And, uh, we're going to be sending now, uh, military equipment and other equipment to NATO.
23:19And they'll be doing what they want.
23:21But I guess it's, for the most part, working with, uh, Ukraine.
23:25But we, uh, we had a fantastic meeting.
23:28I guess it's now almost four weeks ago.
23:31Uh, one of the best meetings they've ever had at NATO.
23:33And the spirit and the coming together was incredible.
23:37And I stood and I listened to almost 30 speeches.
23:42That was a lot.
23:43And I was really late and I had to leave.
23:46But I didn't want to leave before those last 10 spoke.
23:49Because they'd go home and they'd tell their wife, Trump left.
23:53And they were so nice to the United States.
23:55They were all mentioning the United States.
23:56And me.
23:57But they were mentioning the United States to be here.
24:00It's such an honor.
24:00You know, et cetera.
24:01And I thought it would have been inappropriate, but I did stay.
24:03It was very hard because I was extremely late for something else that was, you know, pretty important.
24:09And we had a tremendous NATO meeting.
24:13I'm sure you heard that, too.
24:14It was great.
24:16There's some great people that you deal with on two fronts, right?
24:20But you deal with on primarily the trade front.
24:24But I will tell you, they came together and the relationship is really good.
24:29That was a great, an interesting question because you probably have reported it that way.
24:35It really, we came together and they went from 2% to 5%, which nobody would have thought that was even, who would even think that?
24:44Because they didn't want to be a 2%.
24:45All of a sudden, they're a 5%.
24:47And that's, that's the right number.
24:50And so it was, it was a great honor.
24:53I got to know the heads of those countries really very well at that meeting almost a month ago.
24:58Okay.
24:59Thank you very much, everybody.
25:00We'll let you know what's happening.
25:02We'll be visiting your Irish club course anytime soon.
25:05I will.
25:06I love Duneberg.
25:07I'll go.
25:08Not in this trip, but I'll go soon.
25:10Okay.
25:10Thank you very much.
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