00:00My ex-wife is dating my wife, and the three of us parent our four kids together.
00:04Mommy and Daddy have a girlfriend.
00:06Being in our throuffle, we get judged. We just do.
00:09Stop putting your weird crap on kids.
00:11They don't want it, and they don't deserve it.
00:13It teaches them to be immoral adults, but that's on these people.
00:17When my mom and dad told me they had a partner, I was shocked.
00:20I'm not gonna lie, I was a little skeptical.
00:22My boyfriend Isaac doesn't really understand my family setup.
00:25Would you guys encourage Jocelyn to try Polly Emery when she's older?
00:30Hey, yo, kids!
00:36Come on!
00:38That's how we do it.
00:39Of course, you're here.
00:41Josh and I have been together for 20 years, married for almost 17.
00:44We have four children and one on the way.
00:47Who's the best cook out of your parents?
00:50Jonathan.
00:54We have Joshua, JJ.
00:58He's 10.
00:59Hannah-Lynn is seven.
01:01Helena, we could call her Nana.
01:03She's 12.
01:04And then we have Jocelyn, who is 17.
01:06And so the two of you were previously married, and you've divorced, but you're still together.
01:14With her, like I love her, I still consider her my wife, but we did divorce.
01:19And then as luck would have it, we haven't left each other's side, and nor do I ever plan on leaving their side.
01:24The love has not been lost, and there's no adjustments there.
01:28It was my idea to open our relationship.
01:31I was the ringleader in everything.
01:33Your partner comes to you and tells you that she's open to like every guy's dream ever, right?
01:41The more she actually wanted a lifestyle instead of an event, then I was like, you know what?
01:46She's serious about this.
01:47I was on Tinder, and that's how I discovered them.
01:51I saw Abby's photo, and I was like, help me, please.
01:53I want this one, help me.
01:54I want her, help me.
01:56To me, it was like it was going to be an experience, but it ended up being so much more than that.
02:01Dad saying he loves mom, dad saying he loves mom, like I do feel that it will affect the children somehow, but I do not feel it has affected them negatively in any way.
02:12I think it's cool having Abby in the family.
02:14She kind of like reminds me of like a best friend more than a stepmom.
02:19She's so nice, even when she's stressed.
02:23I love Abby so much.
02:25She's my favorite person to like hang out with and be around.
02:29A close triad to me is we are polyamorous, but we are closed.
02:33Decisions are made together, intimacy and romantically, and all that is together.
02:41I have a very special bond with Abby that I hadn't had with anybody else, and to have two people love you so much is overwhelming sometimes.
02:55We're trying to have an emotional moment here!
02:57This is our family.
02:58We put the fun in dysfunctional.
03:02A lot of guys are like, dude, that is so cool.
03:05You have two girls.
03:06No, I have two birthdays.
03:07I got two anniversaries.
03:09I got two girls yelling at me.
03:10I have two sets of projects I didn't get done.
03:13It's two, two-edged sword, bud.
03:17Hannah, of course, had to make sure no boys allowed.
03:20Hannah has a rollout bed, and then Jocelyn, Helena, and then JJ has the top.
03:26Then, of course, we cram all of their stuff in the closet and drawer, but we make it work without being too hoardy.
03:32All right, so now let's move on to our bedroom.
03:35See where all the magic happens.
03:38Sleeping arrangements.
03:39Now, typically I'm in the middle.
03:42I'm like the biggest cuddler you will ever meet.
03:45I'll cuddle here, I'll cuddle here, I'll cuddle here, I'll sleep on my stomach and cuddle like that.
03:51The little Lego pieces that say our name, and then the date that we made it official.
03:55Mine and Abby's wedding in Vegas.
03:57It has a few more photos, as well as it has a couple parking tickets in there.
04:02It's kind of a keepsake for us.
04:04We are expecting another little girl.
04:07Her name is going to be Jolene Michelle, and we're choosing Michelle because it's Abby's middle name.
04:12Abby's middle name.
04:13Her little nose.
04:14Her nose.
04:15Her little pursed lips.
04:17So this one was the very first one I bought.
04:19It was the one we announced with, and this outfit's the one we're going to take her home in.
04:24She got the little hot dog one, too.
04:27I do hope to have some children of my own.
04:30I don't plan on having five.
04:31I would be fine with just one.
04:33That I feel would be like magical and special for them as well.
04:38Being in a throuple, like we get judged. We just do.
04:41By all means, give your child a running head start for confusion and relationship problems.
04:46Yes, I wouldn't like this if I were a child having to deal with being raised by these three idiots.
04:51It teaches them to be immoral adults, but that's on these people.
04:55Who decided that this was immoral?
04:56Yeah.
04:57These people are so, like, small minded.
05:00Like, I feel sorry for them, you know?
05:02Maybe that's just what their parents taught them.
05:04But that's not what we're teaching our kids.
05:07I love it.
05:08I love the hate.
05:09I'm like, you know what?
05:10You hate us because you ain't us.
05:12Yeah.
05:13Did you have any concerns about how your kids were going to react when Abby joined the family?
05:18I didn't have any concerns about our kids and how they were going to react because they're fairly open individuals.
05:25Mommy and Daddy have a girlfriend is how we introduce it to the kids.
05:28Come on.
05:29Watch out.
05:30Justin was the first to know that Mommy and Daddy had a girlfriend.
05:34I was a little, I guess, like nervous or worried because it was kind of sudden.
05:39I'm not going to lie.
05:40I was a little skeptical how the dynamics would work and how everything would work.
05:44Justin had known that we didn't want to introduce just anyone to the children.
05:47Like, they had to be exceptional or special, trustworthy.
05:51Abby, she's an amazing person.
05:53She's kind of like a friend, kind of like a built-in parent.
05:56It was a lot at first having three parents, but now it's a very big, helpful thing.
06:02Today, my boyfriend, Isaac, is going to come over.
06:06He doesn't quite understand the family dynamic, so he's going to sit down and talk to my parents about their relationship for the first time.
06:12And my dad especially does not hold back.
06:15Boy, quiet!
06:16So I'm kind of nervous to see how this plays out.
06:19Isaac is from more of a conventional family, traditional household, man and wife.
06:26People look at you and they're just, they give you looks.
06:29He knows not to look at me like that, but I get that side eye, you know?
06:33And I'm like...
06:34Do you believe that it's harder to be in a relationship with you and one other person or with you and two other people?
06:40Definitely two people because you're honestly, you're thinking about three people's emotions.
06:47This is hard.
06:48Like, it's hard.
06:49It's like your relationship on steroids.
06:51I wouldn't say I was shocked.
06:53It was just more like something I'm not used to.
06:55I've also seen people who want to be in a relationship with other people while still being in a relationship with their wife.
07:01By introducing Abby, it did weaken mine and Kat's relationship a little bit.
07:07However, we're stronger than we've ever been.
07:10When you came in, we got like closer and like, yeah, you've done that for like all of us.
07:16She's our unicorn.
07:19Would you guys encourage Jocelyn to try Polly Emery when she's older?
07:24F*** no.
07:26Everything in Jocelyn's life, I want to be 100% out of her doing, right?
07:31If she sought it out on her own, I would encourage, but I wouldn't push her to go.
07:36When we're out in public and we get looks, I know me and babe, we just smile.
07:41Kill them with kindness.
07:42Kill them with kindness.
07:43I wink.
07:44To people who question the way you do things as a family, what do you have to say to them?
07:51I think our setup is taboo to people because it's not the norm.
07:54It's not what society feeds you.
07:56It's not what religion feeds you.
07:58It's not what books, movies, TVs, stories, everything is man and woman.
08:05What's wrong with adding another adult to our family that's going to love everybody?
08:08Why is that a bad thing?
08:10Message I have for people like us is live your life.
08:15Everyone's going to judge you no matter what you do.
08:18I hope that our future holds marriage.
08:21I want them to be married to each other as well as to me at the same time.
08:26I want to die in a bed like the notebook with these two next to me.
08:31I am proud to have poly parents just because they're embracing who they are.
08:35They're living the life that they want to and they don't care what other people think.
08:39And I just, I think that's like the most important thing.
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