- 8/7/2025
🟡El Gripen C/D es empleado como avión entrenador por Suecia y Brasil. En este vídeo analizamos si España lo puede utilizar para entrenamiento y lo comparamos con el Hürjet.
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00:00Hello, thanks for your question and welcome to my channel, Buscadores Surriman García, the military defense analyst.
00:08Today we have a very interesting topic to try to adapt in today's report.
00:14It is about the possibility of using the Gripen, which you already know is the favorite of the channel and many of our followers,
00:22as a training aircraft for Spain, which is a question I have been asked several times and I found it interesting
00:29to analyze, although it is true that Spain has the Gurjet as a future training aircraft, about which we talked in a video yesterday
00:36on the advantages and disadvantages of its acquisition for the Spanish Air Force,
00:42But it doesn't hurt to evaluate other options and we will check in this video, according to our knowledge,
00:51If possible, if it is feasible to use the SAP Gripen, specifically the CD version, as an advanced trainer aircraft for the Spanish Air Force,
01:03compared to the Turkish Tai Gurjet, evaluating the advantages, disadvantages, opportunities and risks of each option,
01:11considering the current and future training needs for Spain.
01:15Well, it should be noted that the SAP Gripen is a fourth-generation multipurpose vehicle with CD and EF versions.
01:23Before continuing with the video, it should be noted that in part of this report we have the collaboration of the great Alfonso X,
01:30who already participated in a video of the channel providing us with his great knowledge for the development and acquisition of Spanish AWACS,
01:41that we covered this topic in depth in a report on the channel.
01:45As for the basic characteristics of the Gripen CD, it has a total length of 14.9 meters,
01:51a total width of 8.4 metres, with a maximum take-off weight of 14 tonnes.
01:57And its propulsion plant has a maximum thrust of 80.5 kilonewtons, with 8 anchor points.
02:07And in-flight refueling equipped with a 27-millimeter Mauser BK cannon,
02:14among all types of air-to-air weapons that the Gripen C can have,
02:20which can be equipped with a large number of weapons and POPs from the United States and Europe
02:25for various types of missions, from agile long-range and short-range air-to-air missiles
02:30to heavy air-to-surface missiles and guided bombs for a precision strike with minimal collateral damage.
02:37The aircraft possesses an inherent precision strike and standoff capability
02:42and new weapons are integrated easily and economically,
02:45ensuring that the C-D Series Gripen always has great training flexibility,
02:53offering an exceptional and different air combat system,
02:57against which pilots can hone their combat skills
02:59to fight and win against an advanced enemy threat, the manufacturer reveals,
03:07needing to use advanced combat tactics against opponents of their level.
03:11And that's an advantage, it offers a unique combination of high performance, emission flexibility
03:17and availability combined with a low life cycle cost offered by the Gripen C-D.
03:27Although it is primarily a fighter aircraft, its design and the existence of a B-1 Plaza variant
03:32making them suitable for advanced training roles.
03:37In fact, the Swedish Air Force and also the Brazilian Air Force already use the Gripen C-D for this purpose,
03:45because it was formerly used as trainer aircraft models by the Swedish Air Force,
03:53the famous SK-60, which had almost 60 years of service.
03:59It had a fairly long service life, but as Sweden has not acquired another trainer aircraft,
04:04It occurred to them since their fleet is made up of Gripens and the most logical option is to use the Gripen C-D
04:10as a training aircraft for E-F variants.
04:14It is worth noting that SAP offers a comprehensive training system that includes advanced simulators,
04:20which facilitates the transition of pilots to this type of high-performance aircraft.
04:26Regarding the Gurjet, we already talked about it yesterday in a video on the channel,
04:28But in short, it is a training aircraft, advanced jet and light combat,
04:33specifically designed to accommodate older trainers
04:36and prepared the pilots for fifth-generation homes.
04:40It is a single-engine, two-seat aircraft with supersonic capabilities.
04:44Spain showed significant interest in the Gurjet,
04:47With these agreements that have been signed between Tai Arbus and the Spanish Ministry of Defense
04:51for the acquisition of 28-30 Gurjet aircraft,
04:54with an approximate amount of 1.375 billion euros
04:59in order to train them in the Spanish training system.
05:05And we must look at the training needs of the Spanish Air Force,
05:10which, as I just mentioned, is in the process of modernizing its training fleet
05:14to replace the veteran Northrop F-5,
05:18who have served as advanced trainers for decades.
05:21Now let's see the advantages in our comparative analysis,
05:25the strengths that Gripen has, specifically CD, as a coach,
05:29because the EF version is very expensive, it would cost between 85 and 100 million dollars per unit,
05:34then he is not profitable as a coach.
05:37Strengths.
05:38First, versatility.
05:39And to make a multi-role fighter, the Gripen offers a training platform
05:43which can simulate real combat scenes,
05:46preparing pilots for a wide range of missions.
05:49Second, approved technology.
05:51Since the Gripen is a mature aircraft and is in service with several air forces,
05:55such as the Versilian,
05:56which guarantees approved technology and established logistical support.
06:01Third, comprehensive training system.
06:05SAP offers a complete training package,
06:08including state-of-the-art simulators,
06:10which facilitates pilot training and reduces the need for actual flight hours in the initial stages.
06:17Fourth, interoperability.
06:19A NATO fighter jet, the Gripen ensures interoperability with allied forces,
06:24a crucial factor for Spain.
06:26Weaknesses.
06:28Operational cost.
06:29Being a fighter jet, the Gripen's cost per flight area is significantly higher
06:34than that of an aircraft designed specifically as a trainer,
06:36which could impact the training budget,
06:40What is wanted is for the cost per flight area to be lower,
06:44because it takes quite a few hours from day to day of training and simulation
06:49to properly train a pilot.
06:52So, it is important that the platform has low costs,
06:57which is not the case with the Gripen, because the Gripen is a fighter jet.
07:01Excess capacities.
07:03Some Gripen combat capabilities could be redundant
07:06or unnecessary for a purely training role,
07:09which translates into an additional cost without a direct benefit
07:12for the training of Spanish pilots.
07:17The third point of advantage is availability,
07:20since the production and delivery of the Gripen for training roles
07:23could be subject to the demand for fighter jets,
07:25which could affect acquisition times,
07:28that this is an important point.
07:30Now let's see the opportunities that Gripen would have as a good coach.
07:34for Spain, unlike Gurge.
07:37Fleet standardization.
07:39Here would be the very positive point, as Brazil does and as Sweden has,
07:44that is, if Spain considers the Gripen as a future fighter jet,
07:47which we already talked about years ago in a video on the channel,
07:50Its use as a trainer could simplify logistics
07:52and maintenance by standardizing part of the fleet.
07:55Here it would make sense to have Gripen CD as coach.
08:00It would be the perfect combo, because you can also use it
08:03for combat missions without any problems,
08:07because it has secondary combat capabilities,
08:09since in case of need, the Gripen CD used for training
08:13could be quickly reconfigured for combat missions,
08:16offering reserve capacity.
08:18There would also be the possibility of technology transfer,
08:22since the acquisition of the Gripen could open doors
08:24to greater collaboration with Sweden in the field of defense
08:26and technology transfer.
08:28It would be the perfect combo, but of course,
08:30If we had Gripen as our main combat fighter,
08:33which is what we have with Eurofight.
08:36Now, threats.
08:38Competition from dedicated coaches,
08:39like the Gurge or the T7 Red Hot,
08:42that Sweden also wants him as a video coach
08:45It is the T7 Red Hot, which SAG participates in
08:48and is also the channel's favorite trainer plane.
08:52And in fact, the Gripen CD is a temporary solution.
08:54until having this aircraft,
08:56that trained aircraft are cheaper to operate
08:59and are optimized for pilot training,
09:01which the Gripen CD does not.
09:03Then, the high costs associated with Gripen
09:05could rely on funds from other critical areas of defense
09:08or modernization programs.
09:10Also, dependence on a single supplier,
09:12an over-reliance on SAG for training
09:15and support could generate long-term vulnerabilities,
09:17although we also see this as complicated
09:19because there could be Spanishization and SAP
09:21and Sweden into a reliable partner.
09:23SAP is a company with a good reputation.
09:26Now we go to the Gurge.
09:28What advantages does it have?
09:29Strength, specific design and maintenance,
09:31since the Gurge has been conceived from scratch
09:34as an advanced trainer
09:36and light combat aircraft,
09:38which optimizes its performance and costs
09:40for the training of pilots.
09:41It also has a reduced personal cost.
09:44Being a lighter aircraft
09:45and with a less powerful engine than a fighter jet,
09:48Gurge is expected
09:49have significantly lower operating costs,
09:52which is crucial for training programs
09:54on a large scale.
09:55Also preparation for fifth generation houses,
09:58since its design and aircraft and that they are oriented
09:59to prepare the pilots
10:00for the complexities of next-generation homes
10:03like the F-35
10:04or even sixth generation like the F-CAS.
10:06Then collaboration with Airbus
10:08and several Spanish companies,
10:11in total about 15,
10:12participating in the Gurge program
10:14for Spain.
10:15They could facilitate integration
10:16in the European defense system
10:18and ensure robust logistical support
10:20and local production potential,
10:22since collaboration could open the door
10:24to the production of components.
10:25Well, the production of components
10:26It's already in...
10:28because the Gurge
10:29It already has basic Spanish components
10:31like sticks
10:32for the pilots
10:34built by the Spanish company Airtificial
10:36or even the final assembly in Spain,
10:40boosting the national defense industry.
10:43Now let's see the Gurge's weaknesses
10:44that, being a recently developed aircraft,
10:47The Gurge does not yet have an operational history
10:49tested as excessively as the Gripen,
10:51which could generate uncertainty
10:52in terms of its reliability
10:53and long-term maintenance.
10:55Less combat versatility,
10:57because although it has light combat capabilities,
10:59His main role is that of coach,
11:01which is the opposite with the Gripen.
11:03It has advanced combat capabilities,
11:05I'm referring to the Gripen CD,
11:07but his coaching ability is limited.
11:09And dependence on Türkiye,
11:11although it is true that the Gurge
11:12is going to be Spanishized,
11:14but he's going to get involved
11:16a technological dependence
11:17and logistics from Türkiye,
11:19which could be a factor
11:20to be considered in international relations.
11:22Then, opportunities,
11:23we just commented on another video,
11:24boost to national industry,
11:26strategic positioning,
11:28training optimization,
11:29since it is a specifically designed aircraft
11:31for training
11:33and that can offer a curve
11:34more efficient learning
11:36than the Gripen CD.
11:38As for threats,
11:39there may be developmental delays
11:40Being a relatively new program,
11:43what could affect
11:44to the modernization deadlines
11:45from the Spanish training fruit,
11:46unconfirmed performance,
11:48This is the main vulnerable point
11:50that has the Gurge
11:51and also political precision,
11:53since the acquisition of material
11:54Turkey's defense
11:55could generate certain considerations
11:58political or diplomatic,
12:00such as
12:01the Greek issue.
12:04As for the technical aspect,
12:06and here we have cooperation
12:07of the great Alfonso X,
12:09the Gurge,
12:09one of the advantages it has
12:10as coaches
12:11its supersonic speed
12:12from match 1.4
12:13and aircraft systems and how advanced,
12:15like the Class Cockpit,
12:16radar to that development,
12:18which allows replicating similar scenarios
12:20to those of Eurofighter
12:20or the future FKs,
12:22with the ability to adapt
12:24light attack wheels
12:25and patrolling,
12:26offering flexibility
12:27for practical operations.
12:29At a cost too
12:30per unit
12:30quite cheap,
12:32between 40 and 45 million euros,
12:34not 75 or 90 million
12:36as I've heard around here.
12:37If you consult the sources
12:39you can see it,
12:40unless they have been
12:42falsified the data,
12:44that we believe not,
12:44because they are official sources,
12:46there you have the amount
12:47of the Gurge
12:49and it's not 90 million euros
12:50per unit,
12:51fortunately.
12:52Apart from the fact that we have
12:53industrial return,
12:54also the Gurge
12:55has open architecture
12:56to integrate new sensors
12:58and software,
12:59key to adapting
13:00to technologies
13:01sixth generation.
13:02Also,
13:03regarding
13:05to the Gripen,
13:06has compatibility,
13:07one of the advantages,
13:08as Alfonso X reveals,
13:10is that it has compatibility
13:11with weapons
13:12air-to-air
13:12and air-ground,
13:14useful for missions
13:15of attack.
13:16The cost per unit
13:17it is relatively cheap,
13:18it's more or less
13:19like the Gurge,
13:20That must be recognized
13:21with an advantage
13:22which has the SAP Gripen CD,
13:24but it is less advanced
13:26that the Gurge
13:26in terms of avionics
13:27and sensors,
13:29requiring updates
13:30to simulate houses
13:31fifth generation,
13:32which does not happen
13:33with the Gurge,
13:34with the Gripen
13:35you can't train yourself
13:36for an F-35,
13:38For example,
13:39or for an F-CAS,
13:40apart from the fact that it has
13:40increased consumption
13:41of fuel
13:42and logical complexity
13:43that the Gurge,
13:44raising operating costs
13:45in the long term.
13:48So,
13:49in our opinion
13:50of the channel,
13:52the Gurge
13:52has some advantages
13:55superiors
13:56relatives
13:57to the Gripen
13:59in his role
14:01as a coach,
14:01to the Gripen CD,
14:03because you have to have
14:03into account
14:04that Sweden
14:06and Brazil
14:06they are doing it
14:07because they don't have
14:08a trainer plane,
14:09in fact,
14:10As I mentioned before,
14:12the objective
14:13of the strength of the Swedish
14:14is to acquire
14:15the T-7 Red Hot,
14:16which participates
14:17in the Swedish company,
14:17SAP,
14:18because it's a plane
14:19pure coach
14:20and hard.
14:21The Gripen CD
14:22It is a solution
14:22transient
14:23because the SK-60
14:25had to resign
14:26because I had
14:27a useful life
14:27very long,
14:28almost 60 years,
14:29almost arrived
14:29to number 60.
14:32AND,
14:33so,
14:33besides,
14:34in the case
14:34from Sweden and Brazil,
14:35as they have
14:35as the main house
14:36the Gripen,
14:37yes, it is profitable for him
14:38for the pilot,
14:40even,
14:40it's almost better
14:42that a plane
14:42pure coach
14:43and hard
14:44have the Gripen CD
14:45as training
14:46because the systems
14:47are similar.
14:48But for Spain
14:49No,
14:49because also
14:49Spain wants
14:50country houses
14:51or sixth generation
14:52and with a Gripen CD
14:53you can't train
14:55to a pilot
14:56for an F-35
14:57or for an F-K,
14:59They are generations
15:00different
15:00and apart
15:02does not contemplate
15:03all variables
15:04of training
15:04because it is a
15:05combat house
15:06pure and simple.
15:08Although it is true
15:09that can,
15:09as a supporting role,
15:10be an airplane
15:11coach,
15:12It is not his specialty.
15:14So it is a factor
15:15limiting
15:16and Spain
15:19apart
15:20does not have Gripen
15:20like home
15:21then you're not going to get
15:22no benefit.
15:23The only advantage
15:24that the Gripen CD has
15:25if I had it
15:27Spain
15:27to a good coach
15:28It could be that
15:29a combat house.
15:32You would have a combat house
15:33if it existed
15:34a conflict
15:35you could mobilize
15:36quickly
15:36to a fleet
15:37of 28
15:38to 30 Gripen
15:39for battle.
15:39That's a plus.
15:41But of course,
15:42you don't want to have Gripen
15:43although in the channel
15:43we have always defended
15:44the Gripen
15:45but if you don't want to
15:46buy the Gripen
15:46it is not profitable
15:48no matter how much we theorize
15:49here on the channel
15:51and reality
15:52is another.
15:53The Gripen is not of interest
15:54for the Spanish Air Force
15:56at least for now.
15:58Let's hope so
15:58in the future
15:59be contemplated
15:59or the FlySystem
16:00if in the end
16:01develops
16:02the Swedish house
16:03fifth generation
16:04that too
16:04we discussed it
16:05in a video from the channel.
16:06It is true that the Gurdjet
16:07has the problem
16:08that must be demonstrated
16:09its reliability
16:10and performance
16:10long term
16:11in a real operating environment.
16:13That's true
16:13that Spain
16:14there he has run a risk
16:15but in all
16:17the other points
16:18is superior
16:18as a training aircraft
16:19significantly exceeds
16:21to the Gripen CD
16:22and as for its cost
16:25although it is similar
16:26must be taken into account
16:27that the Gurdjet
16:28is designed
16:29for in theory
16:30to be able to train
16:32to pilots
16:33for houses
16:34fifth generation
16:35I reiterate it
16:36which the Gripen CD
16:37No
16:37so
16:38the Gripen CD
16:40as a training aircraft
16:41It is up to us to decide
16:42discarded
16:43unless
16:44that we acquire
16:45the Gripen
16:46as a combat house
16:48major
16:49or some variant
16:50like the FlySystem
16:51that has similar systems
16:52to the Gripen
16:53so
16:53is profitable
16:55have this house
16:57as a training aircraft
16:59and that can serve us
17:00its capacity
17:00fighting
17:01superior to the Gurdjet
17:02obviously.
17:04What do you think then?
17:05from the Gripen CD
17:06as a training aircraft
17:07for Spain
17:08unlike the Gurdjet?
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