03:53Ito yun, yung RA 11.313 or Safe Spaces Act or Anti-Bastos Law.
03:58Ayun, ang daming term para talaga makintindihan ng publiko.
04:01Well, since madalas po hindi po tayo diretso nagsasampan ang kaso
04:06at hinahandle muna ito ng HR ng kumpanya, attorney.
04:09So, ano ang tungkulin at pananagutan ng mga employer patungkol dito?
04:14Sabi sa batas, yung pananagutan ng employer, malaki yung pananagutan niya sa batas.
04:20Okay? Sinasabi sa batas na kailangan yung employer mag-provide ng safe working environment for the employees.
04:26Okay? And if there are cases of sexual harassment, dapat may committee on decorum, may investigation,
04:32na i-create ng employer.
04:33Aside from dito, dapat yung employer nag-create ng conduct or policies regarding sexual harassment
04:40and also information dissemination sa mga empleyado about this law and sexual harassment against LGBTQI play A+.
04:47Ayun. Well, attorney, kung hindi na kaya internally, paano naman makapagsampa ang member ng LGBTQI plus community
04:55laban doon sa ginawa sa kanyang karahasan, halimbawa?
04:57Okay. Internally, syempre, dapat sa HR, di ba?
05:00I-report mo, tas mag-create ang investigation.
05:02But there are instances na nakikaganasan ng empleyado parang hindi na rin safe, di ba?
05:07Na magsumbong ka sa HR mo.
05:09So, you can file cases. Criminal cases. Kasi nakalagay sa batas, pag-vnihilate mo yung Safe Spaces Act,
05:16may kagampatang pag-usak. Criminal case.
05:17Ayun. Bayad at kulong yan.
05:20Bayad at kulong. So, you can file a case before the prosecutor's office.
05:24Attorney, ano-ano mga preceding factor kung bakit may nakaranas na harassment, no?
05:29Siguro, hindi lamang si LGBTQI plus community, pero siguro all genders.
05:33Yes.
05:34Tapos, anong nangyayari? Hindi pa formal na makapag-file.
05:36Okay. May sexual harassment kasi unang-una, nakikita mo na may difference as to the status or hierarchy ng tao.
05:42Okay.
05:43Mayroong mas mataas, mayroong mas mababa.
05:45So, may patriarchal basis pa rin ba?
05:47Mayroong patriarchal basis.
05:49Okay. Ayun.
05:50And pangalawa, of course, lack of respect. Okay?
05:53Naintindihan natin na may iba-iba tayong pananaw sa buhay, but nanggagaling lang ito sa lahat na hindi natin nagka-respeto yung kapwa-tao natin.
06:02Ayun. Attorney, of course, the cabinet,
06:06or the government agency concerning this is the Department of Labor and Employment.
06:10So, ano ba ang gampanin ng DOLE dito para masiguro natin na nabibigyan ng justisya on a certain harassment or violence case
06:18para sa kung anuman gender, specifically for LGBTQI plus community in the workplace?
06:21Malaki yung role ng DOLE for private employees.
06:24Sabi nga natin, nakalagay sa batas, na dapat mag-create ng safe working environment and mandated yun by law.
06:31And sa mga government offices naman, we have Civil Service Commission.
06:34And the Civil Service Commission also adopts the Safe Spaces Act.
06:38So, malaki yung role na ginagampanin ng Civil Service Commission and also the DOLE in terms of implementation and also handling cases violating the Safe Spaces Act or yung sexual harassment acts committed by individuals.
06:54Okay, attorney, since it's Pride Month and syempre, ito ay buwan ng mga LGBTQI plus community, mga mahal natin, mga welcome, of course, and affirm to all genders.
07:04Attorney, we have been, you know, kumbaga, naka-archive na kung kadalasan ang SOGI Bill or Sexual Orientation, Gender Identity and Expression Bill.
07:13Okay, what are your thoughts about this? Should this be passed? Enough ba ang anti-Bastos law? Hypothetically, attorney, what are your thoughts on this?
07:21Okay, SOGI Bill, ang tagalan nating pinaglalaban, of course.
07:27Sana ito yung pinaka-ideal na batas to address all forms of discrimination.
07:31Okay.
07:31Okay, unfortunately, there are a lot of issues surrounding it.
07:35Ano yung attorney? Just because traditionally batay, konservatibo?
07:38Traditional and of course, we have religious also factors.
07:41Eh, di ba nakalagayan sa ating batas? The separation of the church and state shall be inviolable.
07:45Paano ba, attorney, paano ba natin pwede himayin niya at mapaglaban ng SOGI Bill in case?
07:50I'm sorry if I'm applying my biases here.
07:52Sa akin, simple lang naman ang tanong eh. Di ba?
07:55Bilang tao, hindi naman siguro mahal, hindi naman siguro mahirap na magpakapwa tao.
08:01Okay.
08:01I think that's the bottom line of SOGI Bill.
08:05So magandang may pasa ito, attorney?
08:07Yes, magandang may pasa because we're just applying equal opportunities.
08:10Okay. So ibig sabihin ng status ko, wala talagang equal opportunities, lalo na sa vulnerable sectors like LGBTQ plus community.
08:17Exactly. Unfortunately, yun ang katotohanan natin.
08:19Ayun. So, attorney, anong, well, sa ngayon, talagang yung pinaka pwede ilaban for in cases like harassment, anti-bastos loka lang.
08:26Yes, same space as act.
08:27Ayun. Kaya, attorney, siguro, balik tayo. Anong pwede natin maipayo sa mga employers para masiguro nila napantay-litas ang pagtrato sa ating mga LGBTQ plus community people?
08:38Sa mga employer, we have to adopt, we have to be more inclusive.
08:42Okay.
08:42We have to be more inclusive, diverse, and we have to provide equal opportunity to all individuals regardless of their orientation and gender.
08:51So at the end of the day, we're human beings. We just have to respect each other.
08:57As long as a person does not violate the rights of another, hindi niya ini-endure yung kagapatan ng isa, they're free to express who they are.
09:06Ayun.
09:06And at the end of the day, love is love.
09:08Love is love. Yes. Spread love, di ba?
09:11Attorney, mayroon ka ba na-handle ng mga scenarios of cases like this and how it was handled, attorney?
09:16Yes, madaming ganun.
09:17Okay.
09:18And unfortunately, madami din natatakot na mag-file ng case because, of course, retaliation.
09:24Okay. That's one.
09:25That's one retaliation. Natatakot sila na pag nag-file sila, maaaring maka-affect yun sa livelihood nila or balikan sila ng employer or kung sino mang gumawa sa kanila.
09:33And record sa kanila yung kapag sa character references.
09:35Yes, character references.
09:37But yun nga, we have to make sure and to inspire them na may batas tayo.
09:44That will regulate all these things at hindi masama na sabihin natin ang katotohan natin, hindi masama na ipaglaban yung kagapatan nila.
09:52Hindi naman masyadong na-abuso ba yung iba yung paggamit na anti-bastos law?
09:56Hindi naman. In fact, yun sa anti-bastos law, hindi lang siya applicable sa workplace.
10:00Okay.
10:00Mayroon din online harassment, applicable in public places also.
10:04So, for example, naglalakad ka, sinabi ka na bakla o kaya yung babae, sinisipulan, dahil ang sexy, covered ng batas yan.
10:13Basically, lahat ng form ng pambabastos is covered by the same spaces. Kaya anti-bastos law siya.
10:18So, sa ngayon, may mong ordinances na kasi.
10:21Yes, and also there are ordinances adopted by the LGU pursuant to this law.
10:26Alright. At ornyan, that note, thank you so much.
10:29At ornyan Rueli Lagan, sa libreng another legal consultation para sa amin tungkol sa LGBTQIA plus community workplace harassment.
10:36Abangan ang susunod natin pag-uusapan next Wednesday dito sa Legal Ba!
10:42Abangan ang susunod natin pag-uusapan next Wednesday dito sa Legal Ba!
