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00:00:00Good evening and welcome to the 12th regular session of Kenton City Council and tonight we'll have the roll call to start us off.
00:00:12Joel Althauser. Present. Sue Fox Barroker. Present. David Beasley. Present. Steve Walter. Present. Chad Miller. Present. Peg Wren. Present.
00:00:23Onda Tudor. Present. Robin Jones. Here. John Schilmer. Present. Lynn Webb. Here. Cindy Murray. Present. Thank you Emma. I'd ask all who are able to stand. Steve will say the prayer and then we'll have the pledge of allegiance.
00:00:40Okay. Lord we just ask that you continue to give us the knowledge and the ability to lead this community in the direction you wish to be led for the better of the community itself and Lord we just continue to pray that you look over us in this community, you look over each and every one of us and you continue to bless us. Amen.
00:00:59I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
00:01:18Welcome everyone. We'll move right on with the approval of the minutes from the last meeting. Are there any additions or corrections to those minutes?
00:01:29Hearing none, they'll stand approved and submitted.
00:01:32We have no citizens on the agenda tonight requesting time to speak. I know we'll have somebody toward the end.
00:01:40Thought there real quick. I know we've got two representatives from Rumpke here.
00:01:48Do you guys have anything you want to chat about real quick with the rollout?
00:01:51Yeah.
00:01:54Sorry if I told you.
00:01:55Just figured I'd follow up on my visit from a few weeks ago.
00:01:59We talked about a lot of things and there were a lot of, I think we'll do this unless we do that.
00:02:04So I just wanted to come back and kind of give you guys some confirmation on how we'll be running service in your community.
00:02:10Both trash and recycling, we'll be running the same exact routes that Republic is running.
00:02:15So the trash should be picked up on the same days and recycling should be picked up on the same days.
00:02:19We tinkered with the idea of moving all the recycling to one week.
00:02:25But after we kind of sat down and thought about it a little more, there's probably a reason Republic was doing it the way they were.
00:02:30So we're going to run half the community one week, the other half the other week like they've been doing now.
00:02:35For residents that need an extra card or extra item, something like that, we recommend calling the city to set that up and the city can let us know.
00:02:52That's not to say if the resident does call us, we'll get it taken care of, but for billing purposes and with the city sending us a house count of what each house has each month,
00:03:01it's easier if the city has the running list as opposed to us receiving a call and then having to send the city saying,
00:03:07hey, we received this, we received a phone call from this address saying they needed a card or they needed an extra whatever it is they needed that week.
00:03:16So if people ask, we recommend getting in contact with the city.
00:03:21I have a list of contact information I'll get to, I guess, Angelica, Emma, probably need a few other people just for who they can call or who,
00:03:32once they call the city, who, Angelica or Emma, whoever it is, they can forward that information to them and we'll get it taken care of.
00:03:38This is Tim Groff. He's our operations manager. It's his team that will be doing the day-to-day work.
00:03:44I thought I'd bring him so I could introduce him.
00:03:48His team is, I'd put them up against anybody in the state or the country for that matter.
00:03:53They're really good at what they do.
00:03:55If you have any questions or concerns, I think Tim brought a stack of cards so he can help you guys out.
00:04:01Yeah, the information that he has on there would be my personal cell phone number.
00:04:06I'll give him my company card and my email and everything on it.
00:04:11I answer whether I want vacation, in the middle of the night, it doesn't matter, I'll answer no matter what.
00:04:17I'll tell you, my team leads the east area, which would be the whole state of Ohio minus Cincinnati, in misses per 10,000.
00:04:27So, in other words, for every 10,000 customers, we have the least amount of misses in the whole east area for Rumpke.
00:04:34We take a lot of pride in doing excellent service to our communities.
00:04:38We just did a tip-in-city cleanup, no complaints, no problems.
00:04:42And just so you know, what that involves is every resident gets to put five items out to the curb.
00:04:48It's my team's responsibility to collect them on the day of their service.
00:04:52It's a huge, daunting task for us every single year.
00:04:58We don't look forward to it, but we do those times.
00:05:02And we get it done every single time.
00:05:04And if there's anything I would say, I would place bets against anybody on my team.
00:05:09I have faith in that we'll get this done.
00:05:11We might have a few bumps in the beginning, but I will tell you one thing that my team does is they take bumps and they iron out.
00:05:17So, if you bear with us, if you communicate, all I ask is you communicate to us.
00:05:23If there's issues, sit down and talk to us.
00:05:25We will figure it out.
00:05:26We will result in problems with everything we can to give you the best service you've ever had.
00:05:31Yes, sir.
00:05:32I have had a few of our, let's see, special needs customers, elderly, that we currently go and pick up from the door.
00:05:42We have that list, and we intend to continue doing exactly what it is.
00:05:47There are 70 customers that we receive that we consider backdoor service in the garage, behind the house.
00:05:54We've got a list of where they're at and everything.
00:05:56We've already given that to the two gentlemen that we've picked to be our drivers for this area.
00:06:01They're looking at it.
00:06:02They're looking, they're marking them on a map.
00:06:05They're noting where these backdoor services are already.
00:06:08This Saturday, they're going to come down in a company pickup truck and drive around to the company area to get an idea of it.
00:06:13We've made maps.
00:06:14We've given them maps.
00:06:15We're doing everything I possibly can think of.
00:06:18If you have an idea, I'll gladly listen to it, because I will tell you, I don't know everything.
00:06:23I know a lot of things, but not everything.
00:06:25We were sure that you would.
00:06:26We just wanted to make sure that piece connected.
00:06:28We got it.
00:06:30All the carts, or every home should have received their carts last week.
00:06:35If they already had additional trash or recycling carts, those should be getting delivered sometime this week.
00:06:43One thing about the carts, we've been told Republic will be removing their carts starting with service tomorrow.
00:06:50So if you get a call from a resident and they say, well, Republic took my, or the company took my cart and I haven't received my Rumpke carts yet, please let us know.
00:07:01We will put that straight to the top of the priority list.
00:07:04We don't have any residents having an interruption service.
00:07:07But everybody should have received their carts.
00:07:09I think we had three or four homes that, for one reason or another, refused carts or said they didn't need them.
00:07:16Aside from that, I don't think we had any issues.
00:07:20Any other questions you guys have for us?
00:07:23We're excited to get started in the community.
00:07:26Appreciate you both being here.
00:07:33Communications.
00:07:34We did receive the Council on Aging, Hardin County Council on Aging, June-July newsletter.
00:07:41I think there's just one that came to the main office, so if you'd like to see that, I can pass that on around.
00:07:48I just want to make certain it gets back to Emma.
00:07:53Anyone else have communications they'd like to share?
00:07:58Okay, petitions.
00:07:59I'm aware of none.
00:08:01I'm not aware of any.
00:08:02So we can move right on to administration reports.
00:08:07We'll start with police chief, my sir.
00:08:10I'll allow it to the end, that's all right.
00:08:12Okay.
00:08:13Chief Donnelly?
00:08:15Nothing.
00:08:15Okay.
00:08:17Anything on economic development we want to talk about?
00:08:22I don't think so.
00:08:23I see that the Casey's thing hit Facebook, and we touched about it on state of the city address.
00:08:32Again, the reason they said that the bid came in too high.
00:08:38Again, it was private.
00:08:40We worked with Casey's through setbacks, utilities.
00:08:44Everything was green light on our end.
00:08:47It was just their business decision.
00:08:49I'm saying we'll see what happens next.
00:08:58No reports from income tax, auditor, anything you guys want to talk about?
00:09:04Thanks, sir.
00:09:05Nice to see you here, Christy.
00:09:07Sorry to have to drag you out there and eat.
00:09:10Good to get you here once in a while.
00:09:14Hopefully they're not too hard on you.
00:09:18Treasure law director, John?
00:09:20Nothing right now.
00:09:21Okay.
00:09:22So, Cindy?
00:09:23No, the only thing that I, well, we can cover it when we get the puppy for Tony.
00:09:28Okay.
00:09:29All right.
00:09:30Lynn, anything now?
00:09:33Yeah, I'm going to touch now that Trash was just talking.
00:09:37Remke was talking.
00:09:38I know some of the concerns were and comments have been and asks of me were about our private haulers in town.
00:09:47Um, so, you know, I talked extensively with Burrell, who works for the city, but he also is the owner of SV&E, which they are the largest in the county private hauler.
00:09:58Um, and I asked him what that would look like, and he's like, there's no way.
00:10:04There's no way, cost-wise, to take that on.
00:10:07The recycling part is kind of really what that, you make no money on that.
00:10:13It's a wash.
00:10:14You'd probably lose money.
00:10:16He would, you'd have to bring in more trucks.
00:10:19You would have to bring in mechanics.
00:10:21Um, your liability, your insurance would go up.
00:10:25Um, so it's a big factor.
00:10:27I've never had, since we've changed over, I've never had a private hauler even once come in and say, hey, we'd like to take a shot at this.
00:10:37So, it's just the way it works, you know, recycling, you'd have to, you're running out of town, or you can dump out here.
00:10:46But you're paying, you're also paying that kind of fee, too.
00:10:49So, you know, it's just come to this time of, this is how you do business anymore with the bigger haulers.
00:10:57But, Burrell really set it into place about what it would be, why private haulers don't take, don't take it on.
00:11:06So, I just wanted to clarify that.
00:11:08And, I'm just going to follow up just briefly.
00:11:13Some of the questions I know I've been getting, I think you probably have, too.
00:11:17I think maybe all of you have.
00:11:18Not just, why not a private hauler, but why not anyone pick whoever they want?
00:11:23But, I mean, simple answer, beyond the North Central Ohio Solid Waste District, the federal government basically said, thou shalt not do that.
00:11:34I mean, when we were looking at the bids clear back when Mayor Manns was playing with us doing it ourselves, having a city, creating a new enterprise, which I applaud Randy for at least looking at it.
00:11:53We had asked that question also, are the requirements still in place that required us to reduce our output as a city?
00:12:07And, the folks from North Central Ohio said basically yes.
00:12:12If we were to, today, call up North Central Ohio Solid Waste District and say, yeah, we're not interested in having that anymore.
00:12:21We're going to, I guarantee you, we would have three to four people here at the next council meeting and probably the next day in the Mayor's office.
00:12:31If you recall, we had three or four people from North Central Ohio Solid Waste District here when we were working on this four years ago.
00:12:40So, I don't know, is that the right way to say it, John?
00:12:43I mean, it's basically a cost to doing business of a, even a village the size of forest, you can't just open it up and say, whoever you want to take the trash, you can take the trash.
00:12:56Because the incentive is supposedly to reduce the amount of tonnage.
00:13:02So, everything that's done incentivizes you to reduce output.
00:13:07And, also, on that note, just that reminder, Blake said, it starts tomorrow, so put out all your Republic totes so they get picked up.
00:13:20So, that will be second ward, Tuesday pickup.
00:13:23Also, if you are close to or you know someone that's close to a vacant house or one that your neighbors are on vacation or make sure you get those out, too, we'll have our summer help go around and start looking at some other houses, too, that might have them stuck behind.
00:13:45But, if you can help out your neighbor, that would be outstanding.
00:13:49And both totes?
00:13:49Both totes, yeah.
00:13:52Yeah, regardless of your schedule, put out both totes this week.
00:13:55Both Republic totes.
00:13:56And is one on Monday?
00:13:59Yes.
00:13:59First ward is on Monday?
00:14:02The next Monday?
00:14:03Yes.
00:14:03Yes.
00:14:04The last day of the month.
00:14:05The last day.
00:14:05You all still have yours today.
00:14:07They didn't pick up, they'll pick up one on the next day.
00:14:11So, second ward will be Tuesday.
00:14:14Third ward will be Wednesday, fourth ward will be Thursday, and first ward will be next Monday.
00:14:19Put out your both Republic totes.
00:14:23After that, you will go to the Rumpke totes.
00:14:29July 1st.
00:14:30Okay.
00:14:33Cindy Lynn, thank you.
00:14:36Knock on wood.
00:14:37So far, I think it's gone pretty smooth.
00:14:41Okay.
00:14:42Reports of standing committees.
00:14:46Finance, anything to report?
00:14:47Finance did have a meeting this evening, and there were several items discussed, which will be forthcoming in legislation over the next couple of sessions.
00:14:56Anything from MOP?
00:14:58No.
00:14:58Okay.
00:14:59What about public utilities?
00:15:02There will be a meeting on July 16th at 3.30.
00:15:06Okay.
00:15:10Okay.
00:15:10Streets always sign books.
00:15:12Meeting on 25th at 3.30.
00:15:15Yeah.
00:15:16And the legislation looks like 25th as well.
00:15:19Well, we're going to cancel that because we had a meeting last week.
00:15:24Yeah.
00:15:24Last Wednesday.
00:15:25Anything to report on from that?
00:15:27You'll see the legislation.
00:15:28All right.
00:15:32Councilor, anything regional planning?
00:15:35I don't think I'll say there depends for the city at this point.
00:15:39Parks and Rec, any updates there?
00:15:42Oh, wait.
00:15:43Pioneer Park, the Lions, have got a new piece of playground equipment.
00:15:48They were dragging and leveling that area today, and they're going to be setting that in.
00:15:52It's a really nice swing set.
00:15:54I think it cost them about $17,000.
00:15:57Wow.
00:15:57So they're really working on Pioneer Park.
00:16:00They're very passionate about that park and what they're doing down there.
00:16:04So thank you to the Kent Lions.
00:16:06Can I add a thing?
00:16:08Sure.
00:16:08I want to thank Emma and Whitney and all the volunteers for coordinating an excellent event on Friday, the longest day of play.
00:16:22It was well received.
00:16:23Nothing but positive and thank yous from parents for putting it on.
00:16:29So I think it was very successful.
00:16:31I'm glad you did because I was going to ask if you had any updates or if Emma wanted to talk.
00:16:36Let's talk, Emma.
00:16:37No.
00:16:37Yes.
00:16:38Okay.
00:16:39So I've got my list of thank yous.
00:16:41It was a really good turnout.
00:16:43We started off kind of slow.
00:16:45If you don't know what we did is like every hour on the hour throughout the day, we would switch events that we did.
00:16:52Some of the hours we switched parks.
00:16:56So I think that fishing and disc golf and probably the Gaga pit and the firefighter agility test were
00:17:07the biggest ones for us, but I just want to give a big shout out to Kenton High School Athletic Director Brett Purcell.
00:17:17He made sure that the track was unlocked for us to do our morning walk and then we used the tennis courts for pickleball.
00:17:24Deb and Don Purcell, they did the pickleball and then they also went out to Boy Scout League and helped with the fishing out there.
00:17:34And then we finished off the night out of the quarry with a walk and a movie.
00:17:38Jason Howe was out helping with fishing and he also brought the fishing poles for the kids to use and bait.
00:17:46And then we had the assistant boys basketball coach and a couple of the players were there to help the kids with that.
00:17:55United Methodist Church, Marsha Watkins and Lori Ortega provided a lunch for the kids.
00:18:01We gave away over 50 lunches.
00:18:03And then Kenton Fire Department, Chief Donnelly, Bob Wilson, Danny Folk, Jax Stiegel, and then KPD's Dylan Carter and Luke Broadman were all out at Wharton Park to do the agility test.
00:18:18Mike Steyer and Jeff and Michelle Bloom were out to help with disc golf.
00:18:22St. John's Evangelical Church did the dinner for everybody at Fellowship Hall.
00:18:28And then we've got Elizabeth and Kenley Howe and Donna Martin and all of the pool staff.
00:18:34You know, as you guys know, that was the first super hot day of the year.
00:18:38They had already been open their regular hours, 1 to 6, and not only did they stay an extra hour so that we could play,
00:18:45but they actually extended their hours until 9 o'clock.
00:18:48So a big thanks goes out to them.
00:18:51Lions Club, Joe Burbacher, Bill Keller, Brad Bailey, Judd Robinson, and Michael Hunt were all at Pioneer Park
00:18:57for the Gaga Ball.
00:18:59Deb Phillips helped several places throughout the day, and then she did the walkout to the quarry.
00:19:06Middlefield Bank donated popcorn for the movie Hempi Water, and then, of course, the Hardin County Community Foundation.
00:19:13Big thanks to Robin Jones, who was also with us all throughout the day.
00:19:17Popsicle lady.
00:19:18Popsicle lady.
00:19:20Yep, she's a popsicle lady.
00:19:22The kids knew whenever they saw Robin they were getting popsicles.
00:19:24So Chad Miller stopped out to see us down in his ward at Wharton Park.
00:19:30And then a big thanks goes to, of course, my right-hand woman, Whitney.
00:19:35Couldn't have done it without her.
00:19:37And then Cindy was nice enough to cover the office so that we could go out and play all day.
00:19:41So just thanks to everybody.
00:19:43We're looking forward to next year, it being bigger and better.
00:19:46So if you want to volunteer, get on the list because it's going to be on a Saturday.
00:19:51So it'll be big next year.
00:19:53So they need the fire.
00:19:58They need the five-time utility tests, right?
00:20:01Any of them you got to hire in?
00:20:04What is a God-God pit?
00:20:08Oh.
00:20:09It's a dodgeball.
00:20:11In an octagon.
00:20:13In an enclosed pit, but you can't throw the ball.
00:20:16You have to bat the ball.
00:20:18It's intense.
00:20:19It was intense.
00:20:20Very, very serious.
00:20:22Cindy was playing.
00:20:24Cindy was playing.
00:20:24That's how intense it was.
00:20:25I was playing, yeah.
00:20:27Sounds like that was a very great event.
00:20:31It was a great day.
00:20:32Congrats to everybody.
00:20:40Grove Cemetery, anything, Steve?
00:20:41Sue, anything?
00:20:42I'm not until the end of July, July 23rd.
00:20:45BKP, Matt, don't really have anything to report.
00:20:50Any old business or new business?
00:20:55Okay, then, let's get right to the meat of it.
00:20:57You saw at your station and you received an email.
00:21:01You have an additional resolution, 026-25.
00:21:06That has been added and the agenda updated.
00:21:10So any objections to that?
00:21:14Okay, then, Emma, if you want to go ahead.
00:21:18Ordinance number 25-007, an ordinance authorizing the city of Kenton to enter into a highway improvement project with the Ohio Department of Transportation and declaring an emergency.
00:21:30My knowledge is this can be read again, right?
00:21:33Yes.
00:21:33Anything you want to talk about with it, Cindy?
00:21:37All I know is it's state route 309 and it costs the city.
00:21:44Oh, wow.
00:21:45Any questions on that as you look through it?
00:21:56Okay.
00:21:56Well, then, if there are no objections, we can read that again in two weeks.
00:21:59All right.
00:22:03Ordinance number 25-008, an ordinance submitting the question of selecting a commission to frame a character to vote of the qualified electors of the city of Kenton, Ohio, and declaring an emergency.
00:22:16So I guess I'll refer to the city of Kenton or legislation.
00:22:26Chat.
00:22:27Chat.
00:22:29Who wants to chat?
00:22:30Well, so I was asked to draw this.
00:22:36You know, of course, you know, of course, we had a meeting there last year with Burke and Graydon on kind of advising council some of the ins and outs of charter.
00:22:48So I've been asked to draw this up.
00:22:50We cannot pass this tonight, even if you so choose, because it's outside of the window that under my read of when this actually can be passed.
00:23:01It would be more than 120 days before the election.
00:23:03But it could be possibly passed at the next meeting.
00:23:08That gets us within the window.
00:23:12You know, I tried to find – I am blind, blind on this.
00:23:16I've never done it.
00:23:16I tried to find ordinances.
00:23:19Couldn't find any.
00:23:20So Sunbury was the only one I could find, and I think some things have changed on that.
00:23:26So I've tried to map that as best I could.
00:23:28If you want to guarantee that this gets on the ballot, I would advise you having Bricker look over the ordinance.
00:23:37But if not, we can go ahead and try.
00:23:39Obviously, we don't want to get into a lot of expense until we know the voters have decided to task a panel to work on a charter.
00:23:49But once that date's set, I will say you need legal counsel that is used to working with these things.
00:23:58Because the problem with chartering, if you go back to the presentation, there is a lot of litigation on what charter cities can and can't do that's sometimes extending beyond the powers permissible.
00:24:11Whereas, you know, the statutory cities, it's all kind of defined in the revised code.
00:24:17So we want to do this in a way that is lawful, but more importantly, that we can live with.
00:24:27Because any time we change the charter materially, you're going back to the voters through the whole process.
00:24:33So it's cumbersome to change some barriers going through that process right now.
00:24:41There's certain aspects that they determined was not workable in their initial charter.
00:24:47So they're going back to the voters here in the fall.
00:24:49And it's just, I have no idea what kind of cost it would be.
00:24:56But, you know, obviously, there would be a significant legal fee in working.
00:25:01And then the time commitment also.
00:25:03You have the 15-panel member.
00:25:05And, of course, once we pass this, petitions will have to be circulated to get people to serve on the charter commission.
00:25:14Okay?
00:25:14And they would also go on the November ballot.
00:25:17Obviously, if the issue passes, then there's no charter.
00:25:20But if the issue passes, it takes the top 15 vote-getters.
00:25:25Any position that's not filled could be filled by city council.
00:25:29Okay?
00:25:31But it would be advisable, you know, to get people we feel that's going to work with the city.
00:25:37And that's, you know, one of the worst things I feel about this is, you know, again, as you guys know,
00:25:44city council cannot sit on this.
00:25:47But it's getting folks familiar with what works and what doesn't work here in town to make sure when we're framing this charter,
00:25:57it works with our community, our community needs.
00:26:00There's several different kind of methods, if you remember, on the presentation, different plans of charter.
00:26:08But those are just generalizations.
00:26:10I mean, it can be tailored extensively where, you know, you really aren't going one of the three methods.
00:26:18It's more of a blend of all of them.
00:26:20So that would be very important working with the administration.
00:26:24But I will say this, that is going to be a very time-consuming task.
00:26:28So whoever is a part of that needs to roll up their sleeves.
00:26:32And we need to have some engagement, whether city council is on those meetings.
00:26:37There's nothing to prohibit a committee or a city council to be at those meetings.
00:26:41You're just not a charter committee member.
00:26:44But, again, if we sit back and just let the commission take over, I don't think we're going to be happy with the results.
00:26:51Even if we do a firm that's a law firm that's very familiar, it's, again, what's going to work for the city of Kenton.
00:27:01And that's, so that costs, I have no idea.
00:27:06We may want to get a ballpark quote on what they typically see.
00:27:12Because, again, the bulk of the work starts, if this is voted in on November, that's when the work starts.
00:27:20And we've got to get it on within a year.
00:27:23Right.
00:27:24Right.
00:27:24Or it goes away if you don't get the second issue within a calendar year.
00:27:31And then the work's not done because our codified ordinances, a lot of our ordinances need to be changed.
00:27:41And that's where we also have to work through the whole administration, employee section.
00:27:47That's thrown out the window.
00:27:48But there's a lot because our codifieds are based upon the general framework of a statutory city.
00:27:56You pull that out, the appointments, everything, a lot of that changes.
00:28:01We may need a lot of job descriptions, at least some job descriptions change.
00:28:06So, again, I have emergency language on this, so it can go into effect upon passage if we get the requisite vote.
00:28:16But we do not want to waive and read this tonight because it's outside of the window.
00:28:21So, where we go with this, that's kind of my take on it.
00:28:29I'm not saying this would be a bad thing.
00:28:32This could be a good thing.
00:28:33But it will be a lot of work, and there will be expense involved.
00:28:37And I just don't know how to quantify that without getting more information, getting quotes on what they think it would look like.
00:28:47I think we need to give a quote.
00:28:50I know in January when they've done their presentation.
00:28:54I know for me, like, they gave a ballpark.
00:28:57I mean, I don't want to speak on that because that was in January.
00:28:59That could change it, you know, with the tide, so to speak.
00:29:04I would like to kind of add one thing.
00:29:07I know, John, when me and you were speaking, like, we would be in the window of the 120 days to be, to declare our, like, November 4th election.
00:29:18But just through our conversation, we kind of come across, as far as the commission and being allowed in people that window,
00:29:27if we read it three times, so to speak, we would be at the end of July.
00:29:35And the commission, the members that would want to file a petition to be considered for the commission,
00:29:43would need to have their petitions submitted to the Board of Elections.
00:29:47Or tighten their window along the way.
00:29:49But technically, I think, like, within that 75-day window, which would put it August 20th.
00:29:57So if we, I guess, we have to kind of consider that, too, if we want to consider getting into that window of declaring for November 4th.
00:30:06But also, like, at the next meeting, I'll just use them as an example.
00:30:09If we was passed in, we would be in that window.
00:30:12And we would allow more time for people that wouldn't want to be petitioned for the commission.
00:30:20They would have that extra two weeks, so to speak.
00:30:22I think that's kind of an overlap of the 120 to their 75 days.
00:30:29If we do read it three times, we are going to be up against basically a 20-day period or so of having people file their petition.
00:30:41So, I mean, for me, that's one concern of allowing people to do it if we decide to do it and whatnot.
00:30:51So, but I'm sure we can get numbers from, you know, the law firms on their involvement and what's not.
00:31:02A little earlier this evening, I asked about legislation, and we said that meeting's being canceled because we just met, right?
00:31:11So was this on that committee's agenda?
00:31:14This was.
00:31:15So is there a report from that committee, even if it's just an off-the-cuff verbal report right now?
00:31:21Regarding.
00:31:22I mean, the whole committee was basically just on that topic and presenting it to council.
00:31:31I mean, that was the outcome was to present it to council.
00:31:34Okay.
00:31:34So that's why John was given that task.
00:31:37The committee said, yep, we are.
00:31:39Were you on that committee?
00:31:42Excuse me?
00:31:42I was just curious.
00:31:43I don't know off the top of my head who's a committee.
00:31:46So Robin is the chair, myself and Honda.
00:31:51And so the committee, that's fine.
00:31:53Just wanted to make certain all the council was aware of that, that that committee then recommended at least to go forward with looking at it as far as drawing up the legislation.
00:32:03That's why John's got that task.
00:32:05Okay.
00:32:06Any of the committee members?
00:32:08Chad, if you have more to say?
00:32:09I would just say as far as like within the next two weeks, you know, like I've had a conversation with John, work at getting numbers and really, you know, what we can provide more information or I can provide more information from whether it's Brick or Graydon or whoever it may be as far as their support.
00:32:31I know even the legislation, that it reads all right.
00:32:35I mean, I'm sure I could submit it, email it to them and have them review it and whatnot to make sure it reads correct.
00:32:43I think you pulled it from Sunbury, right?
00:32:46I mean, it was the language and the verbiage they used on theirs.
00:32:51Right.
00:32:52Yeah, but there were, there were a couple other things on there that I just, you know, like mandating the Board of Elections that I don't know that you need a mandate that has to be presented in a way that the public can understand.
00:33:07I mean, that's, and just because we make a general statement like that, does that make it any clearer for the, so there are a couple of things like that that I felt didn't make sense.
00:33:19And then the biggest component that I see is we have the general timeframe of which we have to get the valid issue before the election, but those windows on committee members, on the commission, on their deadlines, I see no statutory requirements for those.
00:33:41So I presume it's something that, you know, we just put forth in our ordinance and that's the way the committee has to go because I see no deadlines.
00:33:50It just, the, it's all in two sections of the constitution.
00:33:54There's not a whole lot there.
00:33:56There, there's, there's, all it states is the 120 versus the 60 and then it basically, I believe, gives the discretion to city council to basically put the rest of the rules because I don't see anywhere else.
00:34:11And so that's, I kind of went with the timeframes that they had set forth there.
00:34:17Okay then.
00:34:19So, seek out members from the legislation committee and ask them questions.
00:34:27This is one of those moments where, situations where council's going to have to do a little, I guess, research to, possibly do some research to sharpen your position so you know.
00:34:45Are there any objections then to reading this again in two weeks?
00:34:48Okay then.
00:34:56Resolution number 026-25, a resolution authorizes by the safety service director of the city of Kenton, Ohio, to enter into a professional services agreement for Detroit Street Phase 2,
00:35:09Street, Sidewalk, Curve, Restore, with choice one, Engineering Corporation, and declaring an emergency.
00:35:14And this is the one we've got to, hopefully council will take a look at tonight.
00:35:20Cindy, what do you want to?
00:35:21I just want to say, we're behind on this.
00:35:25This is the one where, this is, goes on North Detroit Street from Eliza to the corporation limits.
00:35:33We're behind on this.
00:35:35I'd like you to consider passing this tonight.
00:35:37We have the money for this year, I think, that's left over from our North Detroit Street project.
00:35:47We are behind.
00:35:49This is Dave Ball, due to me.
00:35:52Okay.
00:35:54So this is the next section.
00:35:56This is the streets, and yes, this is the next section that will be constructed in 2028.
00:36:01And this is just the streets, curbs, sidewalk portion, because we've no water sewer.
00:36:10We're separating that out so that when we do the escrow, it is for streets.
00:36:18We don't have that whole problem of having to pay all the water and sewer to ODOT.
00:36:24Yep.
00:36:28Questions on it?
00:36:29Councilor, I'd move to suspend the three-grade rule for resolution number 026-25.
00:36:37Thank you, David.
00:36:38Second.
00:36:38Second by Chad.
00:36:39There's no discussion, so let's vote on that.
00:36:42Sue Fox Broker.
00:36:43Yes.
00:36:44David Beasley.
00:36:45Yes.
00:36:45Steve Walters.
00:36:46Yes.
00:36:47Chad Miller.
00:36:48Yes.
00:36:49Peg Wren.
00:36:49Yes.
00:36:50On the shooter.
00:36:51Yes.
00:36:52Rob and Jones.
00:36:52Yes.
00:36:53Okay, that passed at 7-0, so we can move it.
00:36:55Mr. President, I move for the adoption.
00:36:58Second that.
00:36:58Thank you, David.
00:36:59Second by, was that Peg or Robin?
00:37:01Peg.
00:37:02Peg.
00:37:03Any discussion?
00:37:06Okay.
00:37:06David Beasley.
00:37:07Yes.
00:37:08Steve Walters.
00:37:09Yes.
00:37:10Chad Miller.
00:37:11Yes.
00:37:12Peg Wren.
00:37:13Yes.
00:37:14Amma Tudor.
00:37:15Yes.
00:37:15Robin Jones.
00:37:16Yes.
00:37:17Sue Fox Broker.
00:37:18Yes.
00:37:19All right.
00:37:20That passed at 7-0.
00:37:21We'll move forward with that.
00:37:28Second reading.
00:37:29Resolution number 023-25, a resolution authorizing the Safety Service Director of the City of Kinton, Ohio,
00:37:37to enter into a Professional Service Agreement for Water Treatment Plan General Plan with Wessler Engineering and Economy and Emergency.
00:37:46Does anyone have questions since this was read the first time two weeks ago?
00:37:49Any objections to moving that on to a third reading?
00:37:58All right.
00:37:58Resolution number 024-25, a resolution tentatively awarding the contract for the Water Treatment Plant Repair and Rehab Design and Construction to USG Water and declaring an emergency.
00:38:14Any questions with this since the first reading?
00:38:16I do have some good news.
00:38:18Okay.
00:38:20So EPA announced their 2026 awards and we were given principal forgiveness on this project for half the amount.
00:38:36So for $3,080,000, and the rest of it we were given at a 0% loan.
00:38:46That's good.
00:38:47In perpetuity.
00:38:50All right.
00:38:51Any objections to reading this again in two weeks?
00:38:54So it looks like we definitely have two things on our agenda that will need decided.
00:39:01Okay.
00:39:01Nothing up for third reading?
00:39:04So other matters.
00:39:05Does anyone think of anything that needs to be discussed at this time or would you like to discuss at this time?
00:39:13Comments from the public?
00:39:15This will be your time.
00:39:16You'd like to.
00:39:17And just, would you rather be able to walk or, you know, not be set behind the podium?
00:39:25I'd like to podium.
00:39:27Okay.
00:39:29I'd like to podium.
00:39:35If you need to put that out front a little bit more, that's fine.
00:39:44Yeah, that's all right.
00:39:45I think everybody looked at me, too.
00:39:47Just one people got to get to the podium.
00:39:50Put that out here.
00:39:52It's pretty crunchy, though.
00:39:57Thanks, bud.
00:40:00We're going to, like, 15.
00:40:04You're all crooked.
00:40:05That's fine if I need to be a little more crooked.
00:40:24Greetings, ladies and gentlemen.
00:40:26Thank you, Mr. President.
00:40:29My name is Thad Gardner.
00:40:31Kenton is my hometown for 62 years, and my family has been in the area since before 1847.
00:40:39I live in Ward 2 near Robinson Field in the house inherited from my father.
00:40:48I also own the historic Kenton Vault Company building that I restored in Ward 3.
00:40:56Most important of all, my granddaughter is growing up in Ward 1.
00:41:00I should have three representatives on city council, but Kentonites like me, who believe the primary role of government
00:41:13is to ensure the safety of its citizens by following the rules, seem to have no representation here at all.
00:41:20If I was on city council, the number one priority is the safety of the families, children, and elderly in wards 2 and 3.
00:41:32Being terrorized 24 hours a day, seven days a week, nonstop, for the past half year,
00:41:41by countless thousands of trapped, panicked, and pissed-off truckers,
00:41:46hauling God knows what, hazardous cargo, and our school bus drivers forced to survive this crap twice a day.
00:41:56As a city official and public servant, who actually cares enough to answer emails and public record requests,
00:42:07I'm extremely outraged and angry about the huge number of daily crashes, injuries, and close calls,
00:42:15endangering the lives of my constituents and visitors to Kenton,
00:42:21the mass destruction of millions of dollars' worth of private, commercial, and public property,
00:42:28including countless fire hydrants,
00:42:32and being stabbed in the back by the Ohio Department of Transportation's shameless and brazen dereliction of duty.
00:42:39Has the U.S. 68 truck detour for the streetscape ever been subjected to any competent oversight at all?
00:42:48The answer is no.
00:42:52A long-term, extremely expensive, and very complex truck detour
00:42:57on a busy two-lane Federal Highway commercial truck route,
00:43:02riddled with errors and mistakes featuring incorrect and missing and non-compliant signage,
00:43:09violating a slew of state and federal laws,
00:43:12including Article 4 in the 11th Amendment of the Constitution.
00:43:19How can ODOT justify so many blatant screw-ups
00:43:24any freshman civil engineering student could see?
00:43:28The act of installing the wrong signs for a detour
00:43:32is generally considered an act of negligence rather than an intentional act
00:43:39unless there is evidence suggesting a deliberate intent to cause harm and mislead drivers.
00:43:47Excuse me, everybody.
00:43:50With a show of hands, who reads any of the information I present to council?
00:43:54If you did, you would understand why Freshman State Representative Ty Matthews
00:44:00and numerous State of Ohio Public Safety Agencies,
00:44:06even Congressman Jim Jordan,
00:44:09Senator Bernie Moreno,
00:44:11and the Federal Highway Administration have all been unable to help.
00:44:16There is no record of this detour on file with ODOT headquarters,
00:44:20and it cannot be found on GPS mapping applications.
00:44:24A disaster is an event that causes substantial harm
00:44:29to people, property, or the environment,
00:44:33and the affected community cannot manage the situation on its own.
00:44:40If I was on city council,
00:44:42I would immediately contact Mary Burroughs,
00:44:46the Office Director of Engineering for all federal highways in Ohio,
00:44:52at the Federal Highway Administration Office,
00:44:57Ohio Office in Columbus,
00:44:59and I would urgently request emergency technical assistance
00:45:04to correct the defective U.S. 68 truck detour
00:45:08before there are any more injuries and fatalities.
00:45:12She and her staff will politely and professionally identify
00:45:18and replace all of the non-compliant,
00:45:22missing, and illegal temporary traffic control signs for you at no charge.
00:45:28One simple phone call is all it takes to end this man-made disaster.
00:45:33Her office phone number in the staff directory is 614-280-6890.
00:45:44I motion that Pastor Walter and Safety Director Murray
00:45:48make the call together as soon as possible.
00:45:51The only silver lining I can find in the U.S. 68 truck detour disaster
00:46:02is that engineers, contractors, consultants, and liars
00:46:08do not enjoy any sovereign immunity.
00:46:11When someone is killed at our downtown railroad crossings,
00:46:16ODOT engineer Kylie Skrimsky should be indicted for manslaughter,
00:46:21then sued in civil court for gross negligence
00:46:24and extreme disregard for safety.
00:46:27Her boss, ODOT District 1 Deputy Director Chris Hughes,
00:46:33a fiduciary who tells lies to get a contract signed
00:46:39causes more harm to society than a thousand drunk drivers.
00:46:44I challenge ODOT's so-called registered professional engineers
00:46:48to visit Kenton and appreciate the sensational success
00:46:53of their 19th century solutions for 21st century problems
00:46:57shoved down our throats.
00:46:59And then ODOT can straighten me out in public right here
00:47:03in city council chambers in front of everybody.
00:47:09But cheaters and liars make a career of ducking all accountability
00:47:14while ignoring every crash, ambulance ride, emergency room visit,
00:47:20hospital admission, and funeral they cause.
00:47:23I predict when my father's friend, Coach Jim Trestle,
00:47:29finds out the truth of what these feckless idiots did to us,
00:47:33they're going to wonder what fell on them.
00:47:35Oh, here, this is yours.
00:47:44I think you'll set it back up.
00:47:45Yeah, okay.
00:47:48Any questions for Mr. Gregg?
00:47:56Yeah, since you're here, Mr. Gardner,
00:47:58you had emailed members of council and the administration
00:48:01about a purported spill up on Garfield.
00:48:06Is that correct?
00:48:09What's it to you?
00:48:10Well, I was included in your email, so that's...
00:48:13Never heard from you, so forget it.
00:48:16Mr. Gardner,
00:48:17you did get an official response from the city of Kenton.
00:48:25You have besmirched the members of this council
00:48:28and this administration over and over and over
00:48:32with your opinion.
00:48:33Give me an example of my opinion.
00:48:37Hey, do you mind standing at the podium or...
00:48:38Give me an example.
00:48:41I recommended Vivek Ramaswamy for governor
00:48:45was my only opinion I've ever shared.
00:48:48And that was in the Kenton Times.
00:48:49Everything else has been fact-based on federal law.
00:48:53You cited here the fourth article of the Constitution.
00:48:57Yeah, Google it.
00:48:58I did.
00:48:59Yeah, well...
00:49:00While you were speaking, could you share with me why...
00:49:02Google it.
00:49:02It's right on the wall.
00:49:04Would you share with me...
00:49:05Google it.
00:49:05I did.
00:49:06Google it.
00:49:07And show me how illegal detour signs
00:49:09comply with the Constitution.
00:49:11Show me how they don't.
00:49:14Fuck this.
00:49:19That's very rational.
00:49:22That, Mr. President,
00:49:24is an example of the abuse
00:49:26that this council has endured
00:49:27from baseless accusations
00:49:32on more than one occasion.
00:49:37And I find it vile and reprehensible.
00:49:40Mr. Gardner is welcome here
00:49:42when he has facts to share.
00:49:44When he does not,
00:49:46I don't care to hear from him.
00:49:47He likes to bluster and challenge,
00:49:55but when he is challenged himself,
00:49:57he cannot endure the process.
00:50:00Anyone else for public comment?
00:50:06Well, I'm not going to be quite as dramatic as that one.
00:50:13I just have some questions that we always have come up.
00:50:27I just have some questions that we always have come up.
00:50:29If you, sir, if you could, please,
00:50:31we give your name and...
00:50:33My name is Bill Jones,
00:50:34and I believe I'm in the fourth ward, I think.
00:50:40But I live here in Kenton,
00:50:42and, you know, every morning I'm at a,
00:50:46usually at a coffee shop someplace,
00:50:48and we always bring up things.
00:50:49Well, one of the questions that has been coming up lately is,
00:50:52what was the need for the trees to be cut down
00:50:56on Detroit Street?
00:50:59Now, if there was a firewood sale someplace,
00:51:01I could see that.
00:51:03But I don't think there would,
00:51:04because it's too hot today.
00:51:06But, you know, what was the reason for that?
00:51:09Yeah, Lynn, I think you, or one of you want to...
00:51:14I think part of the project,
00:51:16we brought in ODNR on this whole project,
00:51:21and they did an inspection of the trees,
00:51:24and a multitude of them are not.
00:51:26They've lived their life.
00:51:28I think we have 53, 52 replacement trees
00:51:32that will be replanted.
00:51:35They will be replaced?
00:51:36Yes.
00:51:36If you saw some of them,
00:51:38when they cut them down,
00:51:39they were hollow on the inside.
00:51:42The ice storm did their number on them,
00:51:44and I think what we all are seeing and witnessing is,
00:51:48you know, this is kind of the big reset.
00:51:51Kind of a...
00:51:53It's tragic, yeah.
00:51:55It's the future,
00:51:56and we're excited about it,
00:51:58but that's how that's being determined.
00:52:01And with the utilities,
00:52:03sidewalks,
00:52:04making sure of that.
00:52:07Yeah, we didn't want to go tearing up all...
00:52:09putting down all new sidewalks
00:52:10with old tree roots still there.
00:52:12Okay.
00:52:13And then rip...
00:52:14They'd be...
00:52:16You know, the roots would damage those sidewalks
00:52:18within five years, ten years, so...
00:52:20Okay.
00:52:21Most of your sidewalks,
00:52:22where they're heaved up,
00:52:24are due to tree roots.
00:52:26Okay.
00:52:27Most of the time.
00:52:28So they're going to be replacing sidewalks
00:52:30and everything.
00:52:31Yeah.
00:52:32Yeah.
00:52:32So...
00:52:33I think the tree commission,
00:52:37and Sue can speak on behalf of the tree commission,
00:52:40they grade and score trees.
00:52:42The ODNR,
00:52:43her name's Stephanie Miller,
00:52:44I believe,
00:52:45and she comes,
00:52:46she's an arborist,
00:52:47and she comes,
00:52:48and she grades trees.
00:52:50You know,
00:52:50like the ones that are immediate,
00:52:52and then the ones that maybe can go
00:52:55another however many years.
00:52:56But it's nothing that the city decides.
00:52:59We depend on them and their knowledge
00:53:02to help us move forward
00:53:04with what trees are liable to,
00:53:07like, fall into the street,
00:53:08liable to fall into somebody's home.
00:53:11So I think that's just kind of where we are
00:53:13with that process.
00:53:15We did walk that whole corridor
00:53:18with Stephanie,
00:53:19and she identified which ones
00:53:21could possibly stay,
00:53:23but most of them were marked to come out.
00:53:27Okay.
00:53:28One other thing that I think a lot of people
00:53:31have been discussing
00:53:32was the intersection at Ohio Street and Maine.
00:53:38You know,
00:53:39I was going through there twice today,
00:53:41and you sat there for quite a few minutes
00:53:43hoping to get across.
00:53:45Is there any possible way
00:53:47that you can have a four-way sign put there?
00:53:50Make everybody stop and go.
00:53:52I don't know how many accidents
00:53:54have already happened.
00:53:55I know there have been some.
00:53:58You know,
00:53:59the new parking
00:54:00has created
00:54:02a big problem,
00:54:04it's seen,
00:54:05at least to your left,
00:54:07if you're facing east
00:54:08on Ohio.
00:54:09You just can't see cars coming
00:54:14until you get right out there.
00:54:17And so many of these,
00:54:18and one thing I wanted to bring up also
00:54:21was, you know,
00:54:22most of us have probably come into Kenton
00:54:25on some of the state highways,
00:54:26and you see the signs that say
00:54:28no through trucks,
00:54:30but it seems like there's more through trucks
00:54:33going through town now
00:54:34than there ever was before.
00:54:35Can't they be stopped somehow?
00:54:39I mean,
00:54:40there's way too many.
00:54:43I've seen
00:54:44at the intersection of 701
00:54:46and 309,
00:54:49a truck will be heading west
00:54:51on 701.
00:54:53Well, you'd think
00:54:53they would want to go on
00:54:54towards Lima,
00:54:56but no,
00:54:57they turn left
00:54:57to come back in the canyon.
00:54:59So he just defeated
00:55:0020 miles
00:55:01that he shouldn't have had to do.
00:55:03I don't know,
00:55:04it's just like he said,
00:55:06the signs do not help
00:55:09at least truck,
00:55:11well,
00:55:11for one,
00:55:12truck drivers can't read
00:55:13because they don't speak English.
00:55:15That's the biggest problem
00:55:16we have today.
00:55:19But,
00:55:19you know,
00:55:20that's one,
00:55:20those two concerns right there,
00:55:21Ohio Street
00:55:22and Main Street.
00:55:25They've got to be,
00:55:26I think,
00:55:27at Main Street.
00:55:28Yeah.
00:55:28Right,
00:55:28and I think
00:55:29even before the project,
00:55:31Ohio Street
00:55:32and Main Street,
00:55:33it's always been
00:55:34that struggle
00:55:35since,
00:55:36I can't remember
00:55:37when that light went out.
00:55:39Oh, wow.
00:55:40It's felt
00:55:40not long.
00:55:42No,
00:55:42I've been here five years.
00:55:44It was in the middle of,
00:55:45it was struck.
00:55:47It was before we were here.
00:55:48I knew the person
00:55:49that struck us.
00:55:50I know,
00:55:50I know the lambo's.
00:55:52But that's been,
00:55:53and it was not replaced.
00:55:56I know it's,
00:55:57I mean,
00:55:58I travel it every day too
00:55:59just so I make,
00:56:00I know what we're dealing with.
00:56:02I also,
00:56:03and I know that's,
00:56:05I think one of the things
00:56:07when we're thinking safety
00:56:08is,
00:56:09like I tell my mom,
00:56:11go to Walnut Street,
00:56:12go to Decatur Street,
00:56:14and make the turns.
00:56:16You know,
00:56:17it isn't a good intersection.
00:56:19I will agree with that.
00:56:20I don't know
00:56:21if it does any better
00:56:22with the fire department
00:56:24right there
00:56:25that we continue
00:56:26to back up
00:56:26in front of them.
00:56:27I think that's a scenario
00:56:29we have to look at
00:56:30on the factors of it.
00:56:34And,
00:56:34I think that intersection
00:56:36has always been bad.
00:56:38Whether this kind of parking,
00:56:40because the parking
00:56:40really didn't change.
00:56:43The only thing
00:56:43I can tell you,
00:56:45the line of sight is bad,
00:56:46but you've got to remember too
00:56:48that the road
00:56:49is a little bit lower
00:56:50than the parking spaces
00:56:52right now.
00:56:52And when it's all said
00:56:53and then a raise it up,
00:56:54I don't know
00:56:54if that will help it at all.
00:56:56We've discussed
00:56:56the line of sight
00:56:57with the...
00:56:58What's the,
00:57:00is there actually
00:57:01an end date
00:57:02to this section
00:57:03of the project
00:57:04right now?
00:57:05I mean,
00:57:06what's,
00:57:07is there any date
00:57:07that the contractor
00:57:09has to be done?
00:57:10Or is it just,
00:57:12is it just an open date?
00:57:14No.
00:57:14There is a date.
00:57:15There was,
00:57:16it should be done
00:57:17at the end of August.
00:57:19So if he's not done,
00:57:21what's he going
00:57:21to be penalized?
00:57:22No.
00:57:23No, that's not
00:57:23part of the contract.
00:57:25And they're,
00:57:25well, they're working.
00:57:27They work very diligently.
00:57:29We're not behind.
00:57:30They're,
00:57:31they're not behind?
00:57:32No.
00:57:33It just,
00:57:33maybe it just seems like it is.
00:57:34It is.
00:57:35I mean, just,
00:57:35I think the silver cells
00:57:37take a long time
00:57:38to put in.
00:57:39That takes a long time.
00:57:41We're now getting into that
00:57:43now that they got
00:57:44the road taken out.
00:57:45We're rebuilding
00:57:46that whole road.
00:57:47It's a whole new style road
00:57:48to be able to handle
00:57:49this type of semis
00:57:52and the weight
00:57:52because they,
00:57:53they were never built
00:57:54for this kind of weight.
00:57:55So it's,
00:57:56they're building
00:57:57Detroit Street up
00:57:57to handle that.
00:57:59So I think,
00:58:00I think in a couple weeks
00:58:01we'll start seeing
00:58:02cement being poured.
00:58:03Yes.
00:58:04So that,
00:58:05once that gets gone,
00:58:07I think you'll see
00:58:08things move along
00:58:09faster.
00:58:10But I,
00:58:11I can't commend
00:58:12Helms and Son enough.
00:58:13I mean,
00:58:14they're here 12,
00:58:1514 hours a day
00:58:16nonstop.
00:58:17So I don't think
00:58:19there's a penalty
00:58:20on,
00:58:22you know,
00:58:23over here,
00:58:24we kind of ran into weather.
00:58:25You'll see these
00:58:26bump outs
00:58:27getting cement soon.
00:58:29So.
00:58:29Well,
00:58:31when I'm at the,
00:58:32at the Midway
00:58:32tomorrow morning,
00:58:34what I tell people
00:58:35is this,
00:58:36Canton Surplus
00:58:37came down,
00:58:38there's a Target
00:58:38store going in,
00:58:40and they cut
00:58:43the trees down,
00:58:45they're going to
00:58:45put in solar panels.
00:58:47So,
00:58:47thank you.
00:58:48Thank you very much.
00:58:50Well,
00:58:51anyone else
00:58:52would like to
00:58:53speak this evening?
00:58:59Okay then.
00:59:01Tim,
00:59:02anything
00:59:02news media-wise?
00:59:04No follow-up there?
00:59:09Okay,
00:59:10comments from
00:59:10Council Members
00:59:11Administration.
00:59:12Chief Messer.
00:59:13Yes, sir.
00:59:20I have a couple
00:59:21positive things to share.
00:59:23It's kind of
00:59:24a detour in here,
00:59:25but,
00:59:25first I want to
00:59:28in light of
00:59:30this evening's
00:59:30meeting,
00:59:31I want to
00:59:31point out
00:59:31a couple
00:59:31of things.
00:59:32Number one,
00:59:33there's been
00:59:34no injury accidents
00:59:34and no fatalities
00:59:35because of detour
00:59:36signage.
00:59:38None whatsoever.
00:59:38We've had two
00:59:39accidents at these
00:59:40intersections down
00:59:41here in Ohio.
00:59:42They were both
00:59:43cited for driver error.
00:59:44In other words,
00:59:45failure to deal.
00:59:47We've had a lot
00:59:47of property damage
00:59:49from semis,
00:59:51for sure.
00:59:54A lot of those
00:59:55semi-drivers
00:59:56have been cited.
00:59:57One was even
00:59:58ripped out of his
00:59:59cabin and put
00:59:59in jail.
01:00:02The vast,
01:00:03vast majority
01:00:04of the problem
01:00:05traffic comes
01:00:06from 68 north.
01:00:09And we have
01:00:10put signage
01:00:10as far north
01:00:11as I-75
01:00:13and 15.
01:00:15And I've got
01:00:16to tell you,
01:00:16the honest,
01:00:17English-speaking
01:00:18truck drivers
01:00:18that I've spoken
01:00:19to have told me
01:00:20flat out,
01:00:21I ignore them.
01:00:23Because,
01:00:24to quote one of them,
01:00:26I do that shit
01:00:26all the time.
01:00:27And I usually
01:00:28find a way around it.
01:00:29But,
01:00:30you got me this time,
01:00:31so,
01:00:32you know,
01:00:33that's what it is.
01:00:34Swift drivers
01:00:35will flat out
01:00:37tell you,
01:00:38if they get off-route,
01:00:39their dispatch
01:00:39will contact them
01:00:41immediately and see
01:00:42that they're off-route
01:00:42and question their
01:00:44reasons for getting
01:00:44off-route.
01:00:45if they're seeing
01:00:46something on the map
01:00:46that the driver
01:00:47isn't seeing,
01:00:49if it takes more
01:00:50time to make
01:00:50their delivery,
01:00:52more miles,
01:00:53whatever,
01:00:53it's a problem
01:00:54for them.
01:00:54So,
01:00:56if they see a detour,
01:00:58a lot of times
01:00:58they think it's going
01:00:59to be a 10 or 20
01:01:00mile detour.
01:01:01And they will do
01:01:01everything they can
01:01:02to get around it
01:01:02and that's just
01:01:03the way it is.
01:01:04So,
01:01:05I realize that
01:01:07it's painful
01:01:07and I sympathize
01:01:08with this gentleman.
01:01:09I live here in town
01:01:10too,
01:01:10right up the street.
01:01:11I want to punch
01:01:13myself in the face
01:01:14all night long
01:01:15with my windows
01:01:16and listening to
01:01:17the truck traffic
01:01:18and the horns
01:01:21and the jake brakes
01:01:22and it's maddening.
01:01:24But I think people
01:01:25get it in their head
01:01:26that when you do
01:01:27things like this
01:01:28it is somehow
01:01:30supposed to be
01:01:31painless
01:01:32and not cause
01:01:33some sort of
01:01:34inconvenience.
01:01:35And,
01:01:36again,
01:01:37when I see some
01:01:37of the commentary
01:01:38out there
01:01:38about the traffic
01:01:40in Kenton,
01:01:41I have to wonder
01:01:41if a lot of these
01:01:42people have ever
01:01:43ventured outside
01:01:43of Arden County.
01:01:45I've driven all
01:01:46over the world
01:01:46and I've got to
01:01:47tell you,
01:01:47the traffic in Kenton,
01:01:49it's not so bad.
01:01:52It's an inconvenience
01:01:53sure,
01:01:53but I think
01:01:55some people would
01:01:56benefit from thinking
01:01:57big picture.
01:02:00But,
01:02:00anyways,
01:02:01we're going to have
01:02:04a number of events
01:02:05coming out.
01:02:06Emma can fill you
01:02:07in on that.
01:02:09I think the closest
01:02:10one is...
01:02:11Saturday.
01:02:14Yeah,
01:02:14the market on May
01:02:15with lemonades
01:02:17together and whatnot
01:02:18for,
01:02:19you know,
01:02:19first responders,
01:02:20which,
01:02:21if people want to
01:02:22meet some of the
01:02:22first responders
01:02:23and buy some
01:02:23lemonade,
01:02:24they'll be up there.
01:02:25July 15th,
01:02:29if the fire department
01:02:31can somehow formulate
01:02:32a group of guys
01:02:32that can swim,
01:02:33we're going to have
01:02:34a swim meet.
01:02:36So far,
01:02:37they've got nobody.
01:02:38They don't have a single
01:02:39person willing to
01:02:40take us on.
01:02:40But,
01:02:41they can even wear
01:02:43floaties.
01:02:43challenge throw
01:02:48no cow.
01:02:50Yeah,
01:02:50a swim meet
01:02:51and then eventually
01:02:53a softball game.
01:02:54I don't recall the date
01:02:55on the softball game,
01:02:56but that'll follow
01:02:56the swim meet.
01:02:59Yeah,
01:02:59September.
01:03:01So,
01:03:01just putting that
01:03:04out there.
01:03:04And you don't necessarily
01:03:05have to be a first responder.
01:03:06You participate.
01:03:07Family,
01:03:08friends,
01:03:08everybody's welcome.
01:03:12So,
01:03:12all the money
01:03:13generated from it
01:03:14is going to go
01:03:14to charities.
01:03:17We have a young lady,
01:03:19Tori McDaniel,
01:03:20that is helping us
01:03:21with some of our
01:03:21event organizing.
01:03:22She's one of our
01:03:24officers,
01:03:24better halves.
01:03:26We're better.
01:03:28He's a big guy,
01:03:29so better third
01:03:29or better quarter.
01:03:31Probably be a better
01:03:31descriptive.
01:03:32But,
01:03:33so she's doing
01:03:34a great job
01:03:35along with Emma
01:03:36and Whitney
01:03:37and getting this stuff
01:03:37put together.
01:03:38So,
01:03:39that's all I got.
01:03:40Thanks,
01:03:40Jeff.
01:03:43Bruce,
01:03:43anything?
01:03:46I think a minute
01:03:48ago you didn't
01:03:49have anything.
01:03:50No.
01:03:51Well,
01:03:52I guess I just
01:03:52wanted to say
01:03:53thanks to Emma
01:03:53and Whitney
01:03:54for kind of
01:03:54putting the things
01:03:55together for last
01:03:56Friday and stuff.
01:03:57And just glad
01:03:57the guys were able
01:03:58to do something
01:03:59to kind of participate.
01:04:00And,
01:04:01I mean,
01:04:01it was kind of
01:04:03a mini agility test.
01:04:04I mean,
01:04:04it was actually
01:04:05a dummy drag,
01:04:07a hose drag,
01:04:07and so
01:04:08in carrying equipment.
01:04:09So,
01:04:10I mean,
01:04:10that's actually
01:04:11three of the phases
01:04:12that our guys
01:04:13have to go through
01:04:13too through the
01:04:14testing process.
01:04:15So,
01:04:15we're glad to be
01:04:16a part of that.
01:04:19I just wanted
01:04:20to say thanks
01:04:21for that
01:04:21and everything
01:04:23that they've put
01:04:24together for this.
01:04:25And so,
01:04:26and I'll let the guys
01:04:26know that the challenge
01:04:27has been thrown at them.
01:04:29So,
01:04:30we'll see how things
01:04:31can go from here
01:04:32on that.
01:04:32So,
01:04:33but,
01:04:34no,
01:04:34I just wanted
01:04:34to say thanks
01:04:35for that.
01:04:36And,
01:04:36like I say,
01:04:37we'll probably
01:04:37keep seeing us
01:04:38out and about.
01:04:39And,
01:04:39I guess the other
01:04:41thing too
01:04:41is kind of a PSA
01:04:42with the heat
01:04:43and stuff.
01:04:45Be careful
01:04:45about there
01:04:46with this heat
01:04:46and stuff.
01:04:47Check on your
01:04:48neighbors,
01:04:48all that kind
01:04:49of stuff.
01:04:49And just
01:04:50be safe,
01:04:51stay hydrated,
01:04:52and if you
01:04:53don't have to be
01:04:54out,
01:04:54I'd say just
01:04:55stay inside
01:04:55in the air
01:04:56conditioning.
01:04:56So,
01:04:57that's all I got.
01:04:59Thank you,
01:05:00to you.
01:05:03There's two
01:05:04and last.
01:05:06Anything?
01:05:08Okay.
01:05:10No pressure.
01:05:12I guess
01:05:13we're to
01:05:14Sue.
01:05:16Okay.
01:05:20Seeing a lot of them.
01:05:21Longest day
01:05:21in play
01:05:22was
01:05:22like
01:05:24so much fun.
01:05:25had to be there
01:05:27to appreciate
01:05:27all the effort
01:05:28that Emma
01:05:29and Whitney
01:05:29put in.
01:05:29But,
01:05:30Whitney has
01:05:30three little
01:05:30kids,
01:05:31and the baby's
01:05:33three months old.
01:05:34And that girl
01:05:34didn't miss a beat
01:05:35the whole day.
01:05:36The whole day
01:05:36from 8 o'clock
01:05:37at night
01:05:38until 12 o'clock
01:05:39at midnight.
01:05:39She loaded up
01:05:40her kids
01:05:40and drove off.
01:05:41So,
01:05:42these two ladies
01:05:43are responsible
01:05:44for a great day
01:05:45for our community,
01:05:46and I can't
01:05:47thank them enough.
01:05:50Agreed.
01:05:51John,
01:05:51anything?
01:05:52No,
01:05:52nothing.
01:05:54Well,
01:05:54that's Cindy.
01:05:55And then,
01:05:56last words?
01:05:57Just to go off
01:05:59what Chief Donnelly
01:06:00said about the heat,
01:06:01I know there's
01:06:03a lot of talk
01:06:04with Seton-Catton
01:06:05and their air
01:06:06conditioning's been
01:06:07out.
01:06:08I have talked
01:06:10with
01:06:10the vice president
01:06:12of the company
01:06:13that manages
01:06:15that board.
01:06:18They have been
01:06:19aware
01:06:19they're in an issue
01:06:21where the one part
01:06:22that they need
01:06:23is 8 to 12 weeks
01:06:24out.
01:06:25So,
01:06:25again,
01:06:26they're waiting
01:06:27and they've
01:06:28ordered it.
01:06:28They have tried
01:06:29to expedite it.
01:06:31They have met
01:06:32with the families
01:06:32ahead of time
01:06:34and have talked
01:06:35that they have
01:06:36a cooling room
01:06:39set up
01:06:39with portable
01:06:40air conditioners.
01:06:41I know Robin
01:06:42went out there
01:06:43and checked it out.
01:06:44He has more
01:06:45portable air conditioners
01:06:46coming on Friday.
01:06:48But he has,
01:06:49this was all
01:06:50communicated
01:06:51to the residents.
01:06:53They have
01:06:53water stations.
01:06:56You know,
01:06:57they are thinking
01:06:57window air conditioners,
01:06:59but the
01:07:00electricity pool,
01:07:01they aren't set
01:07:04up for that.
01:07:06But they have
01:07:07been in
01:07:08communication
01:07:09prior to.
01:07:12It wasn't just
01:07:12today.
01:07:13It was like
01:07:13someone.
01:07:14So they've been
01:07:15in touch with
01:07:16family members
01:07:17and all of that.
01:07:18So we have
01:07:20said there's
01:07:21some red tape
01:07:22that they struggle
01:07:23with,
01:07:24so I've reached
01:07:25out to Ty Matthews
01:07:26to see if he can
01:07:27help at that
01:07:29level.
01:07:29Just so in future
01:07:30if we run into
01:07:31this again,
01:07:32but I can assure
01:07:33you that the
01:07:35gentleman I spoke
01:07:36with, and he
01:07:37called me back
01:07:37several times
01:07:38again and updated
01:07:41me, and he is
01:07:42feeling it very
01:07:43personally.
01:07:45He's been with
01:07:46this company for
01:07:4625 years.
01:07:48Again, it's the
01:07:51worst thing that
01:07:51could happen at
01:07:52the worst time,
01:07:53and he's very
01:07:54much involved.
01:07:56So I can assure
01:07:57you they're doing
01:07:58all they can to
01:08:00help the
01:08:01residents and
01:08:02communicate to
01:08:03them.
01:08:06Okay.
01:08:08Anyone else?
01:08:10Alright, so our
01:08:11next meeting is
01:08:12Monday, July 14th
01:08:13right here in
01:08:14Council Chambers,
01:08:147 p.m.
01:08:16If you have
01:08:17questions on any
01:08:20of the ordinances
01:08:21or resolutions
01:08:22we're going to
01:08:22read again,
01:08:24please do a
01:08:26research and
01:08:28find out what
01:08:29you need to
01:08:30find out from
01:08:30who you need
01:08:31to find it
01:08:31out from.
01:08:33With that, we
01:08:35are adjourned
01:08:36until the next
01:08:36meeting.
01:08:37You
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