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00:00:00Hi, um, this is eSoup, aka Specific Soup.
00:00:09I so know, I so know that the special extra bits are on the Netflix version.
00:00:16I know, I've confirmed this with the other ones, but it doesn't matter because just in
00:00:20case I'm still going to watch the Yuku special version because it is labeled as the special
00:00:26version so they will not let me down, right?
00:00:31Don't let me down.
00:00:32Don't do that to me.
00:00:34Alright, here we are, we're reacting to the special version of episode 17 of Word of Honor.
00:00:42I can't believe I'm here this soon, but I'm here this soon for my own sanity because I
00:00:49can't wait that long between episodes to finish this.
00:00:53I just, I've gotta, gotta find out what happens.
00:00:58Because every idea I have, every theory, or at least almost every theory seems to be wrong,
00:01:04and then I just like think about it, and then it's like, no, sorry, you're wrong, and you,
00:01:09you know, I'm just, I'm slapped in the face.
00:01:11So um, let's go, let's begin, let's begin before I smoke coffee on myself.
00:01:18Aww, I think that was Tao Weining.
00:01:23I should, I should not pay attention to the intro because there's still clips of stuff
00:01:30I haven't seen yet, I hate that.
00:01:33Oh.
00:01:34Hello.
00:01:35Aww.
00:01:36He was with her.
00:01:37Aww.
00:01:38I love him.
00:01:39That's right.
00:01:40Oh, that's right, he's not very good at fighting.
00:01:43The precious baby!
00:01:44No!
00:01:45No.
00:01:46i love him
00:01:50that's right
00:01:54oh that's right he's not very good at fighting
00:01:59the precious baby
00:02:11he has no idea but i don't
00:02:41um they're gone
00:02:57yeah they left if you really are from the wind whatever sect they left
00:03:03oh oh my god now i see every time i see a guy in a top knot wearing some like gold robes
00:03:18i'm gonna be like uh it's zhao jing no it's just the it's the guy who's in love with beauty
00:03:24ghost and he's helping them out this was another thing that took me off guard but i'm already
00:03:30so past that point now i've realized they've started introducing all of these humans that
00:03:35have relationships with ghost characters and it's like oh okay but when they first like this whole
00:03:43pretend he is
00:03:52i wonder what she actually said
00:03:59i know that probably more ghost backstories will be introduced and there will probably be more
00:04:10sympathetic ghosts but it is interesting at the moment the majority of the ghosts that were like
00:04:16being shown kind of like more stuff to sympathize with are women like besides when kissing himself
00:04:22i think it's been all women where we're kind of like i feel for this ghost especially because
00:04:28there was that situation with the was it something to do with the tragic comic ghost
00:04:33or no it was when guxiang was dealing with the death of all those like maid ghosts and the guy who's
00:04:41like the cannibal question mark whatever his name is he was just being so like crass about everything
00:04:47and so i just i'm finding that really interesting they're humanizing female ghosts mostly and a lot
00:04:55of the men at this point are still just like cheesy jerks but i mean that's some of that might change
00:05:03yeah some of that might change but i'm just it's interesting to see that so far
00:05:08i wonder why guxiang is in the ghost valley if every ghost like did
00:05:38something really bad and then was like relegated to the ghost valley or like decided to go there
00:05:44under certain terms what did she do
00:05:46okay so it did
00:06:03i'm still wondering about the death of his son because i still don't i still don't really understand
00:06:12and i don't know if they're gonna reveal more about that or they're gonna explain it more later
00:06:16i might just have to go back to those episodes because i just don't remember what was going on
00:06:21and i think it was shen shen chasing that guy but i don't remember why but at least at this point
00:06:26it seems like the five lakes did kill that guy and that wasn't a setup by someone else maybe
00:06:34that's what you're telling her about the guy she likes
00:06:38okay oh no she's being nice about it
00:06:44what is
00:06:52there's always a suspicious music sting and all of a sudden i'm like okay what's going on there
00:06:59she is really tough too
00:07:26i think she may prove to be similar to chungling in how she might not have like martial arts
00:07:37training or something it doesn't seem like she does really so she might not be like strong but
00:07:44i think she's going to be very stubborn and hold her ground under like torture if it comes to that
00:07:50i i get the vibe that they have some similarities i had a question in the last episode of if
00:07:56dung dung shuan or dung something that they did like the they like controlled him and they stabbed
00:08:04himself there's a bit where i think some people were trying to take his body and i was like is he
00:08:10still alive i wasn't sure i would love if he turned out to still be alive but that would be quite a
00:08:17feat to like survive such terrible injuries like near death like twice like at that point i don't
00:08:23know to think when these people first showed up i kind of liked them
00:08:30i mean yeah
00:08:39we'll release her why not
00:08:47okay okay
00:08:54she's not going to
00:09:00yeah she she's really strong like the way chungling was
00:09:17oh what are you doing oh he's training with like weighted bags i was like what is this
00:09:27okay oh oh we're on horse up
00:09:33i see what they did the the the parallels between this guy and when cushing at least the personality
00:09:45but now it's like oh he's like you know grumpily accepted the fact that he has to
00:09:52drive the carriage and meanwhile they're like on their own horses
00:09:55i just i wanted to say i wanted to say how like it seems at this point that there's probably going
00:10:03to be over time like more and more i don't know illuminating discussions and things that
00:10:08lynn kushing and joe zishu have but that like because it's not like they've really like
00:10:14reconciled really but i don't know they're just at a point where like partly out of necessity
00:10:20they have to like travel together and do all this stuff because they are both trying to help
00:10:27chungling and all this stuff is going on and i feel like in a way it's been like we accept that we
00:10:34both have to be here together even though we've been having this really big conflict and we haven't
00:10:40exactly fully talked it out yet but also a lot of gay stuff is supposed to happen this episode so i
00:10:45know we'll get we'll get more of that but i was saying this before but the way that joe zishu
00:10:51is so like he gives like so much mercy and like so much leeway and and i do think there's an element
00:11:00when he was like we're walking different paths and he it just seemed like he was just gonna like
00:11:05leave for a while but i think when when kushing once again like showed up to help chungling and help
00:11:13him he like changed his mind on that but i'm sure that like with all the facts laid out in front of him
00:11:20he's still teetering on the edge but i don't know he he like obviously if you look at this situation
00:11:27from a realism perspective he's giving way too much forgiveness and mercy and he should get
00:11:33the hell away from anyone like kushing but like well we're not in reality but it occurred to me also
00:11:41that like in the past in the window of heaven his job was very much to like not ever give anyone mercy
00:11:50if he was supposed to kill someone he was supposed to kill someone and he even you know gave princess
00:11:56jing on you know the option of you know drinking the bad potion or i think if she hadn't done that i
00:12:03think he would have killed her himself and i feel like that moment was like a formative thing for him
00:12:11realizing on top of other innocent people in the past that he's like killed through all his assassin
00:12:17assassin stuff he realized he killed the lover of a friend all because he was like going by these rules
00:12:26and doing what like politically he was supposed to do and he was doing things with no mercy and i
00:12:32feel like maybe that's part of why now giving mercy and giving second chances to when cushing in
00:12:40particular but like i feel like that's why now that's so important to him yeah it's i i think that
00:12:47is i think that it's part of why that's like part of his character because he he like has a chance to be
00:12:54merciful now that he didn't have before in many different ways i don't mean just like choosing
00:12:59to not kill someone but like just extending mercy and relationships in other ways that he never
00:13:06really could have before why why is the writing so good
00:13:14i'm like upset about it
00:13:15i don't talk to him
00:13:31you
00:13:33Oh
00:14:03The way he's like going back and forth
00:14:31That's interesting
00:14:43Yeah
00:14:44It's like he's seeing their current situation
00:14:47Their current relationship
00:14:48Is kind of
00:14:50Well I mean it's in a very testy place
00:14:53And I think he doesn't
00:14:54I think Joe Zishu needs something more
00:14:59From Wen Ka Xing before he like
00:15:01Let's him back in so to speak
00:15:03Like they just have this very like
00:15:05Testy relationship right now
00:15:06Because like we're just
00:15:09Together for x and y reasons
00:15:11And like it's more than that
00:15:12But like they need to talk things out
00:15:15And I think he also
00:15:16Yeah it's so weird
00:15:18It's like he realized okay actually
00:15:20I can't fully trust him at the moment
00:15:23But he's still here
00:15:24And I'm still kind of giving him a chance
00:15:27But kind of because I have to
00:15:29So he's like
00:15:31Keeping his distance a lot more
00:15:33And obviously we get the little joke
00:15:35About like how they're basically married
00:15:37But
00:15:37I know cute things are going to happen
00:15:41In this episode
00:15:42And I just
00:15:43I just need them
00:15:44I just
00:15:46I just need them to happen
00:15:47I don't know
00:16:15And you see us.
00:16:17Look at us.
00:16:19Look at us.
00:16:21Look at us.
00:16:23See you.
00:16:25You are so happy.
00:16:27It is really happy to be a happy one.
00:16:29I am really happy.
00:16:31See you.
00:16:33Why are you all here?
00:16:35Who are you?
00:16:37How do I am so happy?
00:16:39After all,
00:16:41You know what they want?
00:16:46They want to get you the one?
00:16:49They want to have a good thing for me.
00:16:52They want to have some good things for me.
00:16:55Oh, my God.
00:16:58I'm afraid to let our brothers get up, and let them go.
00:17:03What?
00:17:04Are you sure?
00:17:16Okay, I think this is part of him trying to trick them to benefit himself and Scorpion King.
00:17:34Yes.
00:17:43Are we finally talking about this?
00:18:04What do you want to know?
00:18:08Eh?
00:18:09Okay.
00:18:11Ooh!
00:18:12What's that?
00:18:13What are you checking on?
00:18:15Ooh, we got the camera angles.
00:18:24Huh?
00:18:34Okay.
00:18:35Okay.
00:18:36Okay.
00:18:37Okay.
00:18:38Okay.
00:18:39Okay.
00:18:40Okay.
00:18:41Okay, you're trying to pull the big strings?
00:18:44No, we knew he was pulling some big strings, but he's-
00:18:47Oh!
00:18:48Oh!
00:18:49Oh!
00:18:50Oh!
00:18:51Oh!
00:18:52Oh!
00:18:53Oh!
00:18:54Oh!
00:18:55Oh!
00:18:56Oh!
00:18:57Oh!
00:18:58Oh!
00:18:59Oh!
00:19:00Oh!
00:19:01Oh!
00:19:02Oh!
00:19:03Oh!
00:19:04Oh!
00:19:05Oh!
00:19:06Oh!
00:19:07Oh!
00:19:08Oh!
00:19:09Let him-
00:19:10Let him be the chief.
00:19:11Oh!
00:19:12Exactly!
00:19:15Oh!
00:19:16Someone will always want to replace you!
00:19:18Oh!
00:19:19Oh!
00:19:20Oh!
00:19:21Oh!
00:19:22He- Oh!
00:19:23Hmm!
00:19:24Oh!
00:19:25Oh!
00:19:26Oh!
00:19:27Oh!
00:19:28Oh!
00:19:29Oh!
00:19:30Oh!
00:19:31Oh!
00:19:32Oh!
00:19:33Oh!
00:19:34they're all pawning against him
00:19:43that's what they want they want to escape they want to leave the ghost valley
00:19:56and my personal opinion is that taking a bunch of people who apparently did really bad things
00:20:02and sequestering them together in like exile is just they're gonna either not do well or they're
00:20:09just gonna plot more evil things together so my like practical opinion of that whole concept is
00:20:17i would be like let them leave but obviously we're talking about like oh let's leave and plot a whole
00:20:24big scheme to cause more trouble but um i don't know i love the idea by the end of all this the
00:20:30whole ghost valley thing is just like abolished and everyone is free and they stop doing all this
00:20:37evil stuff out in the world because we're exiling certain people who did evil but there's a lot of
00:20:44other people who did evil that have not been exiled and are in positions of political power and they
00:20:50get to sit around and do what they want and that feels a little too much like real life
00:20:55of course you think that's good
00:21:00okay
00:21:05okay
00:21:05he's always recognizable
00:21:34oh
00:21:43Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, okay, we'll do, mmm, Wen Qixing will want to get his hands on this,
00:22:07so maybe he'll want to open the armory, after all.
00:22:11And now they're going to be fighting over it.
00:22:41I still can't tell if the immortal and Wen Qixing, like, knew each other from before, somehow, or the immortal knows him.
00:22:51I still can't tell if the immortal and Wen Qixing, like, knew each other from before, somehow, or the immortal knows him.
00:23:08I just...
00:23:15I just...
00:23:16I just...
00:23:29He's like, the adults need to have a talk.
00:23:40I'm sorry.
00:24:10I don't know.
00:24:40直到后来
00:24:42师父收到了一只机关雀带来的求救信
00:24:46这才知道事有蹊跷
00:24:48便数读入书
00:24:50那师父
00:24:51太师不太人找到了吗
00:24:54没有
00:24:57没有人知道龙渊阁的真正所在地
00:25:00传说
00:25:01是一间会移动的山中堡垒
00:25:05当时天窗羽衣未封
00:25:07我几次三番派人去寻
00:25:10每次去寻的人都告诉我
00:25:12标注的地址没有任何问题
00:25:15但去到标注的地址
00:25:17却全无踪迹
00:25:20废物徒弟
00:25:21废物朋友
00:25:23不过
00:25:24康顿的尚可
00:25:27你活这么大怎么没被人掐死
00:25:29我武功好啊
00:25:33这也不错
00:25:34这也不错
00:25:36他怎么能够够活着
00:25:39你不喝啊
00:25:41你不喝啊
00:25:42哈哈哈
00:25:43哦
00:25:44他不会给...
00:25:45他不会给...
00:25:46他不会给你
00:25:47猪猪猪猪
00:26:00和紫狼无两位当家的
00:26:03去哪儿了
00:26:05哼
00:26:06我还没听到那些
00:26:07这帮孙子
00:26:08啊
00:26:09翻脸不认人
00:26:10海宣言要迫事出盟
00:26:12不再来了
00:26:13五湖猪猛出了这么大的事
00:26:16有人且二心
00:26:17在所难免
00:26:18哪里
00:26:20Now I'm like, I know things are really bad, but I just, I need a little cute moment in
00:26:27the episode.
00:26:28I know that there's a lot more talking things out to do, and I think one of the ways through
00:26:34the course of the show that Wen Ka-Shing and Joseph Shu are probably going to like truly
00:26:41reconcile and understand each other is I feel like we're not gonna get there until Wen Ka-Shing
00:26:48reveals more of his backstory, and probably Joseph Shu revealing something more as well.
00:26:55Like I just think there are certain, they're gonna have an impasse of like understanding
00:27:00until they know more about each other, but especially like knowing more about Wen Ka-Shing
00:27:06and how they knew each other as children, cause that seems to be a thing.
00:27:14And I'm still like, how does, does Joseph Shu not know?
00:27:18Like what happened?
00:27:23He's like reaching for power now, he like seems more confident now in front of these people.
00:27:41Hmm.
00:27:42So many clans.
00:27:46Mm.
00:27:47Hmm.
00:27:48So many clans.
00:27:49Hmm.
00:27:51Hmm.
00:27:52Hmm.
00:27:53Hmm.
00:27:55Hmm.
00:27:56Hmm.
00:27:57Hmm.
00:27:57Hmm.
00:27:57Hmm.
00:27:58Hmm.
00:27:59Mm.
00:27:59Hmm.
00:28:00So many clans.
00:28:30He really stepped up and was like,
00:28:56Hi, now I'm the leader. I'm being all confident now.
00:29:02I think that, I mean, part of what's happening is that
00:29:07Joe Zishu as a child is the one who went through probably more rigorous martial arts training,
00:29:13but the master was still really nice and played with him a lot.
00:29:18So that might not be as much it as it's just that
00:29:21Chung Ling is getting a late start and he's worried about Chung Ling's safety.
00:29:27So he's like, I have to catch this boy up fast.
00:29:30But Kaxing knows that there's only so much you can like force on someone
00:29:36and he's gonna be like, I'm the more merciful parent.
00:29:40Hi.
00:29:45Don't!
00:29:47What the hell?
00:29:48Oh, yeah, he did that.
00:29:56Mm-hmm.
00:30:00I'll see you.
00:30:02I'm my son.
00:30:03Oh, my son, look.
00:30:04You're too sweet.
00:30:05What's your son?
00:30:05Who is your son?
00:30:06You're too old.
00:30:07I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
00:30:08You're too sorry.
00:30:08You're too poor men you tried to go out.
00:30:10I'm not your son.
00:30:12I'm your son, you're your son.
00:30:14You're a person who was born.
00:30:16You're a bad guy.
00:30:21I, you're so that shenanigans.
00:30:22Bomb主.
00:30:23Prost from the door.
00:30:24To the door.
00:30:25The door would be four.
00:30:26Three-sit.
00:30:27You're so you're mad.
00:30:29Uh, we got...
00:30:42Oh, dear.
00:30:48Yeah, Scorpion is my boyfriend.
00:31:18No, no, I don't know if that can also be an innuendo, but, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:31:30Yeah, I was gonna say it's very bold of him
00:31:49to just show up with the Scorpion assassins.
00:31:51But, yeah, I guess his excuse is they decided to join the Five Lakes Alliance.
00:31:56So he's trying to be like,
00:31:58they're no longer just a criminal organization.
00:32:01They're actually part of the Alliance now.
00:32:03But, like, that just sounds ridiculous.
00:32:07Oh, my God.
00:32:33That makes sense.
00:32:52Oh, my God.
00:32:57He's not gonna like that.
00:33:15Oh, we got the nuts again.
00:33:25Wait, I don't know how important they're going to be overall,
00:33:31and I don't know how long they're gonna explore the thing with Zhao Jing and the Scorpion King.
00:33:39But just him being like,
00:33:41I thought you had reformed and like,
00:33:43oh, killing is so fun.
00:33:44It's like, oh, that's an interesting parallel to our main couple.
00:33:49Just feels like more of it screaming at you that this is definitely gay.
00:33:54This is definitely what you're thinking,
00:33:56because they have a similar thing,
00:33:58but on the evil side of the coin.
00:34:01But, you know, evil in a different way,
00:34:03because everybody's evil.
00:34:05And now we have Wolong nuts.
00:34:06This is good for your brain.
00:34:26The way they were like,
00:34:34fine, we have a sponsorship,
00:34:36we have to do product placement.
00:34:37We're just incorporating it into the story.
00:34:42Oh.
00:34:44He's very determined.
00:34:47You could tell he's having a hard time,
00:34:50but I think he's also improving a lot.
00:34:59Hmm.
00:35:06Are they starting to get along better?
00:35:14Why?
00:35:16Ow!
00:35:17Ow!
00:35:20Ow!
00:35:47Ow!
00:35:49Ow!
00:35:49He's really trying, but you gotta chill out.
00:36:19You're not going to be a big master of the Greatest Man.
00:36:26I didn't think you were so bad at all. You can drink a beer.
00:36:31Don't!
00:36:33What?
00:36:36We're gonna get hints at the backstory, but we're not gonna actually get the backstory yet.
00:36:44Will that end up being very helpful advice?
00:37:14Oh, he's going to get so mad.
00:37:27Oh, is that actually...
00:37:34Oh, what was that?
00:37:38Huh?
00:37:44What is happening?
00:37:46What was that?
00:37:51Oh.
00:37:53Oh.
00:37:54Oh.
00:38:07Oh.
00:38:08Oh.
00:38:09Oh.
00:38:10Oh.
00:38:12Oh.
00:38:17That's... I guess that's why he was pushing him so far... so hard.
00:38:20that's I guess that's why he was pushing him so far so hard he's someone who actually has like
00:38:36like extreme slash unusual like predisposition for the skill but he just never actually worked
00:38:45at it but there's like so much extra work that just goes into like catching up and I guess I don't
00:38:52know something about your your meridians are wider apart so you have to to practice more times or fill
00:38:58it up more I don't know but oh that is so interesting I I really thought this chungling's
00:39:04thing was gonna be like you know he's gonna work really hard because he's determined and that's
00:39:09what will do it I wasn't expecting it to be like in addition to working really hard he has this
00:39:15like special martial arts makeup that
00:39:18what does that mean
00:39:44they're starting to get along a bit more
00:39:54you're starting to get along a bit more
00:39:55you're starting to get along a bit more
00:40:01They're spilling so much.
00:40:30Oh, there's a bit where there's, like, red, like, flower petals or red leaves, and you see, like, the robed figure walking past, and that was in the first time we see the Ghost Valley and the first time we see all these different, like, side, you know, mystery shots of Wyn Cushing, and something about this shot looked so similar.
00:40:58I think it's, like, a similar plant here, this red-leafed whatever it is, and just the way it was panning across.
00:41:06I feel like I have to go back in episode one later and look up that shot and then compare it to this shot, because for some reason, something about that panning across and the red, and it just, like, distinctly made me think of a moment in episode one.
00:41:21But also, hello, like, for a second I thought it was the Scorpion King, like, doing his nails, and I was like, whoa, no.
00:41:29Oh, who is this?
00:41:31Oh, that would be Ghost Young, right, that they're talking about?
00:41:48Oh, yeah.
00:42:18Oh
00:42:22And I was, like, you and Hybrid is a kind of good kid, but I didn't wait to even take it from everything
00:42:32Oh, so beautiful.
00:42:37It's worse than that week, the
00:42:46he oh he's so like scorpion bro i'm mad at you for killing that guy and acting out of line
00:43:00and why do i care about the curtains i am so invested in like his thing with the scorpion
00:43:08king because i'm just like and i don't know it might it might be ending pretty soon on a sour
00:43:13note or it might like keep going even though he was upset about that one thing and i don't know but
00:43:19i'm like
00:43:19how do i guess he never got a good doubt about that one thing i had to do
00:43:24that's it
00:43:24would you be sure can't keep going
00:43:25so
00:43:27you can't wait to do that
00:43:31if you want to come to the floor
00:43:32if i had any clue
00:43:33that's true
00:43:34but
00:43:40i think uh
00:43:42God, what a magnificent robe.
00:43:55Wow.
00:44:12Why do I feel bad for the Scorpion King?
00:44:33He's literally like, you care too much about interior decorating.
00:44:42I'm going to put the cake on the floor.
00:44:46I'm going to ask you, okay?
00:44:49Yes.
00:44:51I can't tell if the Scorpion guy is going to willingly do something against Zhao Jing's orders,
00:45:01or if he like, you know, still wants to do what Zhao Jing wants, and you know, just sometimes he messes up.
00:45:09I can't tell if he's actually going to plot against him.
00:45:14Oh.
00:45:15Oh, boys.
00:45:17Drunk.
00:45:18Oh.
00:45:20Oh.
00:45:21Oh.
00:45:22Boys.
00:45:23Drunk.
00:45:24Oh.
00:45:25Oh.
00:45:26Boys.
00:45:27Drunk.
00:45:28Oh.
00:45:29Oh.
00:45:30Boys.
00:45:31Drunk.
00:45:32Oh.
00:45:33Oh.
00:45:34What are you doing?
00:45:37Oh.
00:45:38Oh.
00:45:39Oh.
00:45:44What are you doing?
00:45:49Oh.
00:45:50What are you doing?
00:45:58What?
00:46:10Alright, there's like less than 10 minutes left of the episode.
00:46:14I was promised cute things this episode.
00:46:17I need them to happen to, like, restore my soul points.
00:46:25Okay, that's what he was asking. How old are you?
00:46:43Oh, jeez.
00:46:47I... I...
00:46:51I...
00:46:55Okay, help him out.
00:46:57Help him out.
00:47:00I don't care.
00:47:01I don't care.
00:47:02Eh...
00:47:05I don't want to say the second one.
00:47:12Please...
00:47:16It's an extended episode. Please do something nice.
00:47:21Eh...
00:47:22Talk to him.
00:47:24Um...
00:47:25Uh...
00:47:26Um...
00:47:27Hmm...
00:47:28I will not live with you.
00:47:32You've got some money.
00:47:38You are beautiful, right?
00:47:40I'm shitting you.
00:47:42Your feet are broken.
00:47:44You've already got no damage.
00:47:47I'm not going to die.
00:47:49I'm not going to die.
00:47:51You're so sick.
00:47:52You say that a lot of people in the world
00:47:55are been living in a thousand times,
00:47:57You don't want to die.
00:48:02My life is only two choices.
00:48:04It's a good choice.
00:48:06It's a good choice.
00:48:07It's a good choice.
00:48:08It's a good choice.
00:48:09No one can go to the third road.
00:48:15秦小子.
00:48:16You're a good choice.
00:48:18You're a good choice.
00:48:19You're a good choice.
00:48:21秦小子.
00:48:22You're a good choice.
00:48:24You're a good choice.
00:48:26Changqing,
00:48:28you said when we were young,
00:48:30was it like that?
00:48:32Have I heard that name before?
00:48:34Is Changqing like someone who's referenced in the poems that they're always saying?
00:48:39Cause this guy is like immortal, so that could be someone who's like really old.
00:48:43Mmm.
00:48:44I can't remember.
00:48:45I can't remember.
00:48:46I've been working too long.
00:48:47I can't remember.
00:48:48I can't remember.
00:48:55Please.
00:48:56Be.
00:48:57Have.
00:48:58Be.
00:48:59Be.
00:49:00Be.
00:49:01Be.
00:49:02Be.
00:49:03Be.
00:49:04Be.
00:49:05Be.
00:49:06Be.
00:49:07Be.
00:49:08Be.
00:49:09Oh gosh.
00:49:10You know.
00:49:12Oh.
00:49:13Oh.
00:49:14No, don't.
00:49:15Oh.
00:49:16Uh.
00:49:17Uh.
00:49:18Uh.
00:49:19Oh.
00:49:20Oh no don't oh
00:49:27oh
00:49:29oh
00:49:31oh
00:49:33total
00:49:35okay
00:49:37no what the underworld
00:49:39not a very new scounder
00:49:41an advertisement
00:49:43oh
00:49:50don't tell him why don't you give it a try
00:49:54just
00:49:58oh
00:50:00oh
00:50:02oh
00:50:04oh
00:50:06oh
00:50:08oh
00:50:10oh
00:50:13that's
00:50:14totally
00:50:16warranted
00:50:17mm
00:50:19mm
00:50:20mm
00:50:21mm
00:50:23mm
00:50:24mm
00:50:25mm
00:50:27mm
00:50:30mm
00:50:31mm
00:50:33mm
00:50:35mm
00:50:36mm
00:50:37mm
00:50:38mm
00:50:39I'm so sorry.
00:50:41I'm so sorry.
00:50:43You're so sorry.
00:50:45I'm so sorry.
00:50:53You're so sorry.
00:50:59I'm not going.
00:51:05I'll be back.
00:51:07You are so sorry.
00:51:09You are so sorry.
00:51:11You're so sorry.
00:51:13You've been going.
00:51:15I'm so sorry.
00:51:17Speaking of your mind,
00:51:19I'm so sorry.
00:51:21I'm so sorry.
00:51:27I got us.
00:51:29You're so sorry.
00:51:31I'm fine.
00:51:33You will be dead.
00:51:35I'm going to be in my mind.
00:51:40I'm going to have to be in my mind.
00:51:45I want to be in my mind.
00:51:48I'm going to be in my mind.
00:51:51I'm not going to watch the video.
00:51:56I'm going to be watching the video.
00:52:02Oh my God.
00:52:09Oh my God.
00:52:32Um, hello?
00:52:59Okay, I know this was the special version, and so some of this was cut, like, originally
00:53:09when they first released it, but a special version or not, I'm still, like, somehow taken
00:53:18aback that, like, they were just able to, like, show the scene like this.
00:53:23I don't, like, the part where he's reaching up higher, but obviously it's meant to be
00:53:29that he's, like, thinking about the nails in his body.
00:53:32So he's, like, reaching up, like, towards him, like, basically indicating the nails.
00:53:37But still, it just looks like he's trying to, like, touch him more.
00:53:41And that was, I was sitting here going, like, I'm waiting for a cute scene, it's an extended
00:53:46edition, there's a cute scene, that's gonna make me feel better.
00:53:50And they did the absolute opposite.
00:53:53But it's all, like, the whole everything with Joseph's shoe right now.
00:53:58It's so hard to, like, watch because you're like, ugh, he's, like, being mean.
00:54:03But it's so completely beyond understandable, you know?
00:54:08Like, he's been nothing but patient with the, the chief of the Ghost Valley.
00:54:14And I do wonder what, up till this point, he's gathered about, you know, when he was talking
00:54:19about someone's pulling the strings, but someone else went against them and did this thing too.
00:54:24I assume that he was kind of implying that the someone pulling the strings was Wen Ka-shing.
00:54:32Because it seems obvious enough, especially, especially since he said to him, like, oh,
00:54:38do you feel bad that your plan didn't go the way you wanted it to?
00:54:41So it seems like he knows that part of this is, like, his plan.
00:54:45So my immediate thought is that with everything he's, like, witnessed and learned, there's not
00:54:53really, there's only so much more than he, that he could be, like, shocked and disgusted
00:54:59by, to me.
00:55:00I don't know how that's actually gonna play out, uh, when he finds out.
00:55:04But to me, it's like, he's already seen that really, like, base level, like, humans are animals
00:55:10thing and the glee at people killing each other and planning and scheming.
00:55:15And of course, he thinks that Wen Ka-shing is always, like, putting on a face for him and
00:55:21lying to him to just, like, flatter him and isn't being real.
00:55:24But, I mean, he is, or has been, you know, fake in the, like, flirty way.
00:55:30But it's true that he's, at least, at this point, at least he's, like, trying to be real
00:55:36or, like, he is expressing parts of his true feelings and he is being real about that.
00:55:42The main thing that he's not being real about is just, like, who he actually is and what he's
00:55:46done.
00:55:47Oh my goodness.
00:55:48I don't know why I didn't think this show would go so deep into, like, the theme of, like,
00:55:55how hard it can be to be vulnerable with someone and expose yourself and, like, how hard it
00:56:01is to be real with another person and I, I mean, IRL, I don't buy into the, like, soulmate,
00:56:07one single true love, one single perfect person thing.
00:56:12And that's kind of part of this, but, I mean, we are talking about a magical world with gods
00:56:19and immortals and different things, so I think it's fair that fate plays a part.
00:56:26So part of the theme does seem to be, like, how you have to open yourself up to connect
00:56:32with someone, but if it's, like, that special person, they'll see you and still be accepting.
00:56:37I think what Joseph Shue, at this point, is trying to convey is that the thing, that maybe
00:56:45the thing that has upset him the most is the dishonesty and, like, keeping things from him.
00:56:51Like, whether, like, he's almost saying, you can tell me pretty much anything, like, bad
00:56:59that you've done.
00:56:59I don't have as much a problem with that as I have with hiding things and then suddenly,
00:57:06you know, exposing it and you were, like, hiding it this whole time so I didn't know what your
00:57:11deal was.
00:57:12I think he's kind of saying when you stop hiding and show your true self that, like, I
00:57:19will be able to accept that.
00:57:21And in the scheme of the show, he might probably will still have trouble accepting it at first,
00:57:28which isn't the same as, like, totally not accepting a person.
00:57:32But yeah, I think, like, he's going, like, if you're totally open with me, like, that's
00:57:36what I need and it would be okay.
00:57:39And when KaShing is surely thinking, well, I mean, we saw what he was thinking there, like,
00:57:44you wouldn't be my friend if you knew who I really was.
00:57:46And I had a stupid little thought at that line at the end where I was like, yeah, he
00:57:51wouldn't be your friend, he would, like, be your soulmate and everything else.
00:57:55But if it's kind of like if when KaShing can, like, be totally honest and get past the fact
00:58:01that somebody might need a minute or two to, like, cope with his deal, and also if he can
00:58:09actually take responsibility for his actions and work to change the things that are not good,
00:58:15then it's like, no, someone could actually, like, love you for who you are.
00:58:20And there's still this whole thing with, like, having a, like, a kind or, like, pure heart
00:58:26at the core of him, you know, because otherwise it's like, oh, how is he able to play that,
00:58:31like, healing tune on the flute?
00:58:33So I think, yeah, I feel like an important aspect is going to be, like, the fact that at
00:58:38some point all this horrible stuff happened and then he was in a position where he had no
00:58:43choice but to, like, join the evil guys.
00:58:46And he was, like, branded as evil, so he was like, I'm going to be evil.
00:58:50At least we're, you know, honest about it.
00:58:53And that's kind of the thing, too, is, you know, he and some of the other ghosts can
00:58:57talk about, like, well, at least we don't label ourselves as good and we're honest about
00:59:01being bad.
00:59:02But obviously everyone is still doing, you know, secret things and covering things up, so it's
00:59:07not like they're really totally honest either.
00:59:10I know that's a little different, but I think there is, there's an interesting thing at odds
00:59:15with, like, him feeling like, well, we're labeled as evil and we're honest about it.
00:59:21But yeah, if he's not being totally honest with, like, the person who's supposed to, like,
00:59:26know him and he's supposed to know, you know, then how can you really be with that person?
00:59:32And I think it's similar-ish to the way that Joe Zeshu is treating Chun-Ling as, as his
00:59:39disciple.
00:59:40There's, like, a tough love element where I think for Joe Zeshu, he's like, if I wanted
00:59:46to fully on, like, leave you, leave you, then I would leave you and we wouldn't be here
00:59:52together.
00:59:53Like, that's, I think, how he's feeling towards Wen Ka-Shing right now.
00:59:56That even though he's, like, being really harsh with him, he's trying to get him to
01:00:00see certain things, but he's still there when he's, like, needed and still helping get him
01:00:06into bed after being drunk.
01:00:08And the other thing I wanted to point out is the only other time that we, I think the
01:00:12only other time other than this episode that we've seen Wen Ka-Shing actually drink enough
01:00:17to get actively drunk is after their first fight.
01:00:22So it's, like, whenever he's faced with, you know, things aren't going the way he wants
01:00:27with, like, his soulmate, that's when he gets trashed.
01:00:32So even though he's going through this moment of, like, well, we're just, we're kind of here
01:00:37and I'm here with him, but he's really distant with me and I've really messed up, you know,
01:00:42so we're, you know, still kind of fighting and he's starting to get along with the immortal
01:00:48guy, but he's, like, just getting totally trashed.
01:00:51I do think that when he's in a good mindset and a good situation or when things go wrong
01:00:58that don't have to do with Joseph's shoe, I don't think he gets trashed like that.
01:01:03That really was, like, that really was, like, a startlingly intimate scene.
01:01:08I know it's the extended version, but again, that still, my understanding is they were still
01:01:14subject to some form of censorship, but for some reason they were able to add in a little
01:01:20more because, oh, it's only on this or that platform and not everyone is looking at this
01:01:25version.
01:01:26I don't, like, I really don't know how that works.
01:01:28I don't know why a different standard is applied to, like, these two different cuts and
01:01:33there gets to be a special cut.
01:01:35But obviously, I'm happy about having the special cut available.
01:01:38It just is strange to me, but I'm, like, yeah, even for a special cut, I'm just, like, wow,
01:01:42they really- I didn't at all expect that going into this show, like, to be honest.
01:01:49And I was- I was telling a friend about this show and I was trying to describe it and then
01:01:54she, like, looked it up and she saw, like, a poster and she saw some, like, articles that
01:01:58popped up on Google.
01:01:59And there's an article- it's just, like, one of those sites where they write these random
01:02:03little, you know, whatever articles about, like, media and video games and stuff.
01:02:08But the- the title was, like, the best- you know, it was from, I guess, 2021.
01:02:14And it's, like, the year's best, like, queer historical whatever drama- not historical,
01:02:21but it's, like, fantasy ancient China.
01:02:23It's not real ancient China.
01:02:25Whatever it was, the year's best queer something drama isn't even explicitly queer.
01:02:31And I'm sorry, but if you watch this show, even with all of the extended extra clips
01:02:37taken out, it doesn't matter.
01:02:39I don't know how you could watch this and it not be, like, the most obvious thing.
01:02:44And I get what the person who wrote that article was saying, slash, it's probably a clickbait
01:02:50headline.
01:02:51But, um, I think part of it is just occasionally there's American or, like, other countries
01:02:57reporting on, like, Chinese dramas.
01:03:01Like, this- I mean, in this case, like, specifically adaptations of, like, BL content where they
01:03:07kind of miss the mark because I think they don't understand- like, they don't understand
01:03:12things about the censorship or the content it's adapted from, or they don't understand
01:03:17what certain things and conventions mean, you know, whatever.
01:03:21Um, and then they'll, like, do this reporting that just feels like it kind of doesn't get
01:03:26the point.
01:03:26I don't know if that makes sense.
01:03:28I read this wild article on, um, the Yin-Yang Master Dream of Eternity, where they used the
01:03:35term queerbaiting, and I was like, are you- are you joking?
01:03:40And the person who wrote the article referenced Chinese media censorship, but they made it sound
01:03:46as though, like, the creators of that movie, like, like, bowed down to censorship by not
01:03:51showing certain things, and I'm like, I'm sorry, you're not allowed to, like, release
01:03:55your movie with certain things in it.
01:03:57They don't have a choice, you know?
01:04:00Like, it didn't make any sense.
01:04:02That is, um, a discussion for another day.
01:04:04I think I'm going to eat something, and then I'm going to move on to the next episode,
01:04:09because we- I feel like we got some reconciliation and, like, this beautiful moment, but it's
01:04:17like, I need to see more of this through before I'm satisfied.
01:04:22I feel- it's so weird, like, when I am wrapping up, it's like, if it's on any sort of cliffhanger,
01:04:29it's like an emotional cliffhanger.
01:04:31It's like, oh, I'm leaving the characters in this place.
01:04:34I don't- I don't want to leave them there.
01:04:36So, with that, if you're watching this video, thank you, like, and subscribe if you would
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01:04:51I always forget where my hands are.