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MJTV: HOA in West Chase Fined a House for Putting Up Christmas Decorations Too Early

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00:00Uh, I've got some details here.
00:02Okay, it's the Claus Claus.
00:03The Claus Claus.
00:04It's the Santa Claus Claus.
00:05That's funny.
00:06It's the Santa Claus Claus.
00:08You're in violation of the Claus Claus.
00:10It's the Claus Claus, sir.
00:14I've never really been in Westchase.
00:17Yeah, you've been close to it.
00:18You've been to the very outskirts where you go to that Costco.
00:20I've driven through the area.
00:23I know that I'm on the outskirts, but I don't think...
00:26There are, like, there are thousands of houses.
00:28Like, all these neighborhoods and all...
00:31People live there.
00:32It's a neighborhood.
00:33I realize that.
00:34But I've never...
00:35We have children.
00:35We have children down her hood.
00:36No, I'm not.
00:36I've never known anybody really in Westchase.
00:40I'm technically not in Westchase.
00:42Like, I don't pay the Westchase CDD.
00:45All right, so that was my question.
00:46Criminal.
00:47Are you deed restricted in your...
00:49No, I'm not.
00:50Your neighborhood is not...
00:52My neighborhood is, but it's not part of the Westchase community.
00:56Well, so you are deed restricted.
00:57Yes.
00:57So do you pay an HOA?
00:59Yes, I do.
01:00So you have to pay an HOA to your...
01:02My little enclave, yes.
01:04All right, but you're not technically Westchase.
01:07Correct.
01:07All right, here's the situation.
01:08I'm confused.
01:10A homeowner is facing the wrath of the Homeowners Association.
01:16Man, they're the worst.
01:17Those Homeowners Association cops that tell, like, a veteran you can't put your flag out front.
01:22Remember, one tried to pull me over on my mini motorcycle.
01:25Oh, that's right.
01:26Trying to write me a ticket.
01:27I'm like, you can't write me a ticket.
01:29You're 80.
01:30Because you can't drive around on that mini motorcycle.
01:33You don't have a license plate.
01:34This was before you bought your new house, right?
01:36Yeah, yeah.
01:37This was a long time ago.
01:38Froggy was in a deed restricted community and some 80 year old guy is flagging him down.
01:43Froggy had one of those little mini motorbikes.
01:46I was flying down the road.
01:48They went.
01:49It was like a little tiny motorbike.
01:51Yeah, those little mini motorcycles were all the rage.
01:54That was like a craze back in what, 1999, 2000, right?
01:57I got pulled over on one by an 80 year old man.
02:0080 year old dude standing in the road flagging Froggy down.
02:03And he's like, get this off the street.
02:05I don't see a license plate on this.
02:07I'm going to call the police.
02:10I'm like, shut up.
02:11I drove away.
02:12Here's the deal with Westchase.
02:13A homeowner is having an argument with the Homeowners Association.
02:20Why?
02:21He got a letter saying that he put his Christmas decorations up too early.
02:28Stop it.
02:29Oh my gosh.
02:30We should get that same letter.
02:32If I was, oh no.
02:34On November 6th, the Maffa family.
02:38That's a little early.
02:39They, well, they're going up in my neighborhood.
02:41I'm seeing all those, you know, those Christmas light companies, all those, I mean.
02:46You got to book them early.
02:47You do.
02:47I mean, and there are so many jobs that some of these companies, they were putting Christmas
02:52lights up around Halloween.
02:54I'm serious.
02:54Oh, you mean the professional guys?
02:55Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:56You've got the professional.
02:57You'll see those vans.
02:58Speaking of Sprinter vans, you'll see those professional Christmas light companies and they
03:03come in like Christmas light and wreath ninjas.
03:07They go, and in like two hours, the whole house is wrapped, everything's up, they got
03:13ladders up, they got reindeer on the roof, but more and more people are hiring those Christmas
03:19decoration companies where, you know, they don't want to be like Clark Griswold, I guess,
03:24you know, falling off the roof and, you know, getting paralyzed or something.
03:28Yeah, I mean, it's a good deal if you want an old decked out house.
03:31Yeah.
03:31So, on November 6th, the Moffa family hired a company to put up the Christmas lights outside
03:38their home.
03:38They hired one of these companies.
03:41And apparently, November 6th was their only availability.
03:45And Mr. Moffa says, I can't climb up on the roof myself.
03:48That's Michael Moffa, according to Channel 8.
03:51That's right.
03:52And he said, I'm not taking him down.
03:54The Westchase homeowner is now facing threats and fines for violating the HOA agreement.
04:01Your Christmas lights are up too early.
04:03How would you even know that?
04:05Well, you got to read the, is there a specific date?
04:07Is it like Section 2, Clause 6, Christmas lights can't go up before November 20th?
04:13Uh, I've got some details here.
04:14Okay.
04:15It's the Clause Clause.
04:16The Clause Clause.
04:16It's the Santa Clause Clause.
04:18That's funny.
04:19It's the Santa Clause Clause.
04:21You're in violation of the Clause Clause.
04:22It's the Clause Clause.
04:24You didn't read the Clause.
04:26Anyway, he's facing, uh, fines.
04:30You know, in some of these cases, if you refuse to pay your fines, homeowners associations,
04:35they'll put a lien on your house.
04:36They'll foreclose.
04:38There have been people that have lost their homes due to these overbearing homeowners.
04:43HOA, exactly.
04:44Awful.
04:44I'm in the middle of something right now with mine.
04:46Yeah.
04:47What?
04:48We put these bushes up as a barrier, and they're, like, on the common area instead of our area.
04:55So now, Doug's like, no, that's our property.
04:57So now we're going to do a survey.
04:58Have fun with that.
04:59Oh, my God.
04:59Right?
05:00Oh, my God.
05:00Roxanne has to trim her bushes.
05:02You're going to lose your house.
05:03You're going to be, you're going to be, uh, homeless.
05:05Yeah.
05:06Yeah.
05:06First, you're talking about, first, you're talking about your attraction to power trucks,
05:10and now you're talking about your bushes.
05:13Oh.
05:13It's great.
05:14This whole show's deteriorating.
05:15Yeah.
05:16We're having calls about HOA issues.
05:18This one woman's calling in.
05:20What line is she on?
05:2111.
05:21All right.
05:21Hi.
05:22Good morning.
05:22Who's this?
05:24Hi.
05:24Good morning.
05:24This is Laura.
05:25Hey, Laura.
05:25Welcome to the MJ Morning Show.
05:27Where are you calling from?
05:28I'm calling from New Tampa.
05:30And what's going on?
05:32So, on Labor Day, we put up our Halloween decorations outside in our yard because my kids were very
05:37excited to decorate.
05:38Now, Labor Day might be a little early.
05:40Labor Day might be a little early for Halloween, but listen, keep going.
05:43I want to hear your story, Laura.
05:44Go ahead.
05:45So, a couple days later, in the mail, we got a letter from our HOA saying that we were out
05:50of compliance and we needed to remove our decorations within 14 days, or we would be fined $100
05:55a day.
05:56Yeah, that's the same deal here.
05:58So, if the family, the Moffa family in Westchase, they told Channel 8 that if they don't correct
06:05the violation and take down the Christmas lights, which are up too early, they could
06:09be fined $100 a day, up to $1,000.
06:13Same for us.
06:14Same deal.
06:15So, wouldn't they just use standard, like, boilerplate, homeowners, HOA rules?
06:21Laura, I have a question.
06:22When would it have been a legal HOA time to put your Halloween decorations up?
06:27Yes, that's stipulated.
06:29So, it said in the letter that we cannot put the decorations up more than 45 days before
06:34the holiday.
06:35And what's interesting is they gave us two weeks to take down our Halloween decorations.
06:39So, if I had taken those whole two weeks, I would have been within the 45 days.
06:43So, you had to take them down and then put them right back up.
06:45Well, if she would have waited until day 14, she would have been in compliance.
06:49I would have been fine.
06:50Oh, my God.
06:51So, what was the resolution?
06:52It was a waste of time.
06:53Did you take them down or?
06:55MJ, I did take them down.
06:57Oh.
06:57And I sent the letter back, but I was very angry about it.
07:00And, you know, then I put them back up right within the 45 days.
07:03That's amazing.
07:04And did you put your Christmas decorations up on the 4th of July by any chance?
07:09No, we have not even done that.
07:11Hey, Laura, thanks for listening.
07:12Thanks for calling in.
07:13And please spread the word.
07:15The MJ Morning Show is back on 104.7 FM Q105.
07:19You bet.
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