Radio presenter: No Sudan resolution without US & UK

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00:00How much sway does America have to get things on the agenda and to get ceasefire talks up and running, do you think, Jono?

00:09I think that they are, obviously, as we said, the UK and the US are the whole of the cards in this situation.

00:15And until they sit up and pay attention and until at the top level of this and until the administration listens and says,

00:21there is an issue, please let's interject here, then we will be sitting here for a long time looking at the issue in Sudan

00:26and we'll be two years further down the line with no further resolution,

00:28which, of course, is the issue.

00:30The images are harrowing.

00:31To see the images coming from Sudan, they're on par with the rest of the world

00:35and what we're seeing taking place right now that are atrocities.

00:38There is famine that is taking place there.

00:40And until we get someone to listen in the US, I feel like we are going to continue to slam our heads against the wall

00:46and not reach the people that need assistance and not get mediation here.