Which former Patriots QB wouldn't give up an MVP Trophy for the Lombardi Trophy?

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Which former #Patriots QB wouldn't give up an MVP Trophy for the Lombardi Trophy?

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00:00And yesterday, Wiggy, your guy, Cam Newton, was asked whether he would trade his MVP trophy

00:10for the Lombardi trophy for a Super Bowl win. Here's what he said.

00:15No. Oh, really?

00:19What's more important, impact or championships? Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. Trent Dilfer

00:27won a Super Bowl. Respectfully, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. So yes, when you look at those guys

00:35and you say, OK, what's more important? Would you have preferred to win a Super Bowl? I think that

00:40that's the humble approach. But if we're being honest, the impact of you holding yourself

00:46accountable to say everybody has a responsibility to do and you can say as an MVP award winner

00:54or All-American, you've held yourself or you've held your end of the bargain down. I'm taking

01:00individual success because I did my job. Football is not about one guy trying to do 11 jobs. It's

01:0811 guys doing one job. And if everybody does their job best, famous words of our coach Belichick,

01:15just do your job. Do it. Sounds like a guy who's never won a Super Bowl. Right. You know who Cam

01:22Newton is a huge fan of? Who's that? Cam Newton. Yeah, he is. Like, I mean, Wiggy. Yeah, I don't

01:29subscribe to that. It's kind of like the Damian Tom Tomlinson conversation. Would you rather go

01:35into the would you rather be a Hall of Fame player or would you rather be a Super Bowl winner?

01:41Right. And it's a bit different, though. Well, not the MVP conversation. I think it's like,

01:47would you rather be a Hall of Fame player or a Super Bowl winner like Phil Simms,

01:55where you're a good player but you're not a Hall of Famer? But Hall of Famer, like you are

02:01immortalized. It's super like for me, that's different than just winning an MVP for a season.

02:06Like, I think Cam Newton saying that is a bit fraudulent. I think if he had ever won,

02:10if he won the Super Bowl that year, then he would probably say, no, like winning a Super Bowl,

02:16it's the best feeling in the entire world. But isn't it so refreshing to hear someone say that?

02:20Because I guarantee you, he is not the only one that feels that way. Cam is so deeply secure.

02:28You think so? Oh, totally. Because would you rather be Dan Marino or Nick Foles?

02:34Dan Marino. 100 times out of 100. Well, that's see, that's why I brought up Phil Simms.

02:38Phil Simms was a good quarterback. Would you rather be Phil Simms or Eli Manning?

02:45No, not Eli Manning. Phil Simms or a Hall of Fame quarterback, Drew Brees,

02:50who's going into the Hall of Fame, right? Phil Simms won a Super Bowl. Drew Brees won a Super

02:56Bowl? Yeah, he won one. Oh, my bad. I'm sorry about that. Yeah. I guess it would have to be

03:00a quarterback who never won a Super Bowl. Curtis, I love you, but we're being a bit

03:04fraudulent there, too, saying it's so refreshing because Jason Tatum, whenever he said that he,

03:10you know, we talked extensively about, oh, my God, Jason Tatum cares more about being an all-star

03:15or getting an MVP than winning a championship. And we ridiculed him. Yeah, I would say that when

03:22you're playing for the team, if I'm a fan of Cam Newton and I'm a Panther fan, I don't want to hear

03:26that. I want you to win for the team I cheer for. As a guy that's being honest to the media

03:34about what's important to him and his legacy, I think it's refreshing because it's not shared

03:39by many players. Most people would not say that even if they believed it for fear of the backlash.

03:44No. And Jason Tatum was talking about the all-star game, I believe, was what we were talking about.

03:49Yeah, he wanted to be, he's had a dream always to be all-star MVP, I think. But like, all-star MVP

03:54is not the season MVP. That doesn't even help the team you root for. I know, but I'm just saying,

03:57like, to call it refreshing, I think is a bit of a jump when we really came at Jason Tatum.

04:03Well, I would say, you know, it was a good conversation. Would you rather be Phil Simms

04:06or Dan Marino? Phil Simms had a really good NFL career. Oh, yeah. Shyam, I think, would say Dan

04:12Marino. That's what he just said earlier. Yeah, yeah. Shyam actually has foals ahead of Montana.

04:18So with Cam saying that, it comes down to those conversations of, you know,

04:22you're LaDainian Tomlinson, who never won a Super Bowl, but you're a Hall of Famer versus maybe a

04:28guy who was a good NFL player that won a Super Bowl that's not a Hall of Famer. Which career

04:33would you rather have? Well, but one could argue that what Cam Newton just showed you

04:39by those comments is why he never won a Super Bowl, because he was more about himself than he

04:46was about team. I mean, he got to a Super Bowl and his, unfortunately, his team lost. Correct.

04:53He literally put an entire team on his back. He said that it has to be 11 guys doing their job.

04:58In that season, it was Cam Newton doing basically 11 guys jobs for 18 games, and he almost did it.

05:07He's like the only person I've ever seen physically carry an entire team on his back

05:12all the way to the Super Bowl. Well, what would you want, Greg? Would you rather be a,

05:16have a Hall of Fame career like Marino, or would you rather be a good career but a Super Bowl

05:21champion? I'd rather win a Super Bowl. Like I would, I'd rather win a Super Bowl. Yeah, I think

05:25personally I would too, because I think everything that goes around winning a Super Bowl is just so

05:29much more exciting. But I'd be interested to know if Ty could only have one, which one would he have?

05:34I would also say in the actual career, like if you went to Josh Allen today and said you can give up

05:41your MVP, you're likely going to win, and you'll play in the Super Bowl, he would do it a thousand

05:45times out of a thousand. But if Josh Allen's career ends without a Super Bowl, he may have

05:52more perspective in saying that, you know, it was great to be the MVP. Well, that's why I would say

05:55with Marino, would Marino say, you know, I'd give up being in the Hall of Fame to, you know, be known

06:00as a Super Bowl winner. Yeah. And that's why I think it's like, it is an interesting conversation

06:05because, you know, that I get the MVP argument that Cam's making, but it's no different than

06:12we've had the discussion with LaDainia Tomlinson when he first brought it up is, you know, what's

06:17more important, the individual status of you being in the Hall of Fame because you were a great player

06:23or being a good player who won a championship who's not in the Hall of Fame? You think Cam

06:29Newton is going to be a Hall of Fame player? I don't know. He's pretty close. I would say he's

06:34borderline, yeah. His career, Greg, I know it wasn't quite as long as some other quarterbacks

06:39nowadays because he took such a physical beating, but that, like, 10-year span that he played,

06:44he missed maybe four games and he was one of the most physically dominant quarterbacks that has

06:50ever played the game. And he had, like, a couple of ridiculous stats where it was, like, passing

06:55touchdowns, rushing touchdowns, those type of things. But I was looking, like, Philip Rivers

06:59is going to be a Hall of Fame. Oh, God, I hope not. Right. But Cam Newton should be in before

07:05Philip Rivers. But the way the Hall of Fame is now, it's now watered down. So we, you know, like,

07:10Eli Manning is going to be a Hall of Famer and part of that is because he won two Super Bowls.

07:16All right. Well, that's what Cam Newton said yesterday. And you can talk about that all day

07:20long here on Boston Sports Original, WEEI.

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