00:00Today, I was excited to come to the studio because after many years,
00:10we will only see each other now.
00:12My guest is not only a part of the show business,
00:16she is becoming emotional because she is a friend of mine.
00:22She is a part of my story, she is close to my heart.
00:26Naytay Kapuso, please welcome, Bibi Gandahan!
00:30Thank you!
00:40Thank you!
00:41Thank you!
00:42Thank you for being here.
00:43Oh, thank you. Wait.
00:45I'm being instructed here.
00:47The content is a bit off-center, am I right?
00:51How are you?
00:52I'm very, very okay.
00:54Yes, I told you, we talked last time, right?
00:57Sometime in 2009.
00:59Early on my transition, this is my 16th year.
01:02I know.
01:03Early on, yes, during the transition.
01:07But there are kinds of friends, Bibi, that even if you don't see each other, you're still friends.
01:13Yes, and almost all of my friends are like that.
01:15Really?
01:16Yes.
01:17There's someone like that, right?
01:18Yes, there is.
01:19In all the past 16 years, it wasn't easy.
01:23No, it wasn't easy.
01:24No.
01:25It's the hardest.
01:26Contrary to what others thought, that everything was honeymoon,
01:30that everything was on a bed of roses.
01:33No, it wasn't.
01:34It was very difficult.
01:35That's why I have a strong feeling when I say,
01:37we don't know what she went through.
01:40And to assume that we know is not fair to her.
01:45I said that in a conversation.
01:48But what's fun is the whole thing.
01:53Right?
01:54Of all the people we've been with, most of them are happy.
01:58Most of them, yes.
01:59Of all the friends we've talked to,
02:04who, without, I don't know how you're going to handle this,
02:07who stayed and who left?
02:11Who left?
02:12Yes.
02:13A lot of people left.
02:14Because a lot of people left.
02:16Because part of my transition was actually to isolate myself.
02:20So, a lot of people didn't understand my isolation.
02:24Until now?
02:25What do you mean until now?
02:26It means the last 16 years.
02:28So, at first, I understood that.
02:30But it was gone, and until now, it's still gone?
02:32It still doesn't make sense?
02:34Yes.
02:36And I understand that too.
02:38Yes, I understand.
02:39Because they don't know what I went through.
02:42Maybe they just assumed that a lot of people...
02:46She just disappeared.
02:49Or she woke up and changed her mind.
02:51You know what I mean?
02:53Yes, we don't know each other anymore.
02:55But on the contrary, it's really part of the transition.
02:59And then, to the people who stayed,
03:01Pops is there.
03:05It proved to be.
03:06I talked to her yesterday.
03:07Really?
03:08We're talking about Pops Fernandez, P-Pi.
03:10Yes, Pops.
03:11It proved to be.
03:13We had a fight, but she understood all the way.
03:19That's how friends are?
03:20Yes.
03:21We've been through a lot.
03:25But you know what?
03:26A lot has changed, but it's not your laugh.
03:28Me?
03:29Yes, it's still the same.
03:33Okay, maybe I should change it a bit.
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