00:00From what I understood from excerpts of your book, fires are part of the natural course of things in forests.
00:09They play a role, as you say in your book, as important as rain.
00:14So doesn't this boil down to the fact that humans have decided to live in areas that come with a huge degree of risk?
00:23Namely, if you live near a forest, there will be fires.
00:25Yeah, I mean, there's certainly a land use planning issue here.
00:29But the reality is, is that in the United States, our forest, our wildland fire policy, our fire policy is basically focused on forests and forest management.
00:42This idea that if we remove a bunch of trees from forests, that's somehow going to stop fires or curb fires.
00:48And that's going to stop them from reaching communities miles away.
00:52Here's the problem. Number one, most of the communities that are impacted by fires and that are at risk from fires are nowhere near a forest.
01:03These are not forest communities in Los Angeles that are being impacted by these fires.
01:08They're in grasslands, they're in foothill vegetation, chaparral, shrub habitat.
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