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Darren, the outsider finding his place in Islam | Where Race Meets Religion
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1/1/2025
At the lowest point in his life, Darren found Islam. As a Chinese Muslim, he reckons with the complexities of identity, of conflicting culture, and fitting in.
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00:00
I am 29 this year, I'm Chinese, I'm Muslim as well.
00:14
Currently studying again, back at NUS, I went back for a postgraduate in law.
00:24
I was a trouble kid.
00:25
I've landed in hospital because I tried killing myself.
00:29
Islam kind of saved my life in that sense.
00:30
To this day, I still regard Islam as having saved my life.
00:33
I was constantly drunk, I was constantly trying to numb myself from a lot of things.
00:38
I had a very troubled childhood, I struggled with mental health problems a lot.
00:59
We're at Bawi Mosque, which is actually a mosque that I have very fond memories of.
01:08
When I first came into this mosque, I was already Muslim.
01:11
But I remember I came with a group of students and we met with the imam of the mosque, Khalif Hassan.
01:18
He shared some pretty interesting anecdotes on his own life, basically, when he was younger.
01:23
Which really opened my eyes to how Muslims approach different issues.
01:28
Imam, I learned there can be differing views.
01:31
And I think Habib talked about how he had neighbours who would bring him food
01:35
from differing races, different religions.
01:37
And of course, they understood his dietary restrictions.
01:40
But beyond that, there was that level of trust and understanding
01:42
that you would not give me something that I cannot take.
01:45
In that sense, it kind of opened my mind to, you know,
01:47
you don't have to be constantly second-guessing everything.
01:50
I did not study Islam in, I would say, the healthiest ways.
01:55
I basically went online.
01:57
Please don't do that.
01:59
So when I first started out, like the first two years probably,
02:02
I guess it would be what some people would call a Salafi.
02:05
So I was quite literalist, quite strict about certain things.
02:08
My own Muslim friends gave me that look.
02:10
It's like, okay, Darren, okay.
02:12
Over the years, I've come to learn that there's a big variety.
02:17
I mean, the Muslim tradition is a very broad, very rich one.
02:21
You don't last for so many hundreds and thousands of years
02:24
without that capacity for accommodation
02:28
and without a breadth of views.
02:30
It just doesn't happen.
02:34
I think the biggest challenge for me is
02:37
to be able to make a living out of it.
02:40
It all started with a dream
02:42
when I was experiencing some of like the lowest moments in my life.
02:46
And I had a dream of the Ka'bah.
02:50
I dreamt of myself viewing the Ka'bah from a bird's-eye view.
02:55
And I felt a voice tell me,
02:57
just lay down all of your burdens and face Makkah.
03:01
I had to ask, actually, some of my Muslim classmates.
03:04
And then I was like, okay, I'm going to do this.
03:06
I'm going to do this.
03:07
I'm going to do this.
03:08
And then she explained, it's the direction of prayer.
03:11
So when Muslims pray all around the world, they all face Makkah.
03:14
I was like, whoa, like where did this come from?
03:16
And so that kind of spooked me a little bit.
03:17
And that's how I started studying and learning a bit more.
03:21
So during this period, I started with like,
03:23
oh, maybe not Ipohk anymore.
03:25
I stopped drinking.
03:26
So in that sense,
03:27
it also coupled together with healthier changes in my life.
03:30
And my parents could see it.
03:32
That's kind of why it became easier for them to accept also
03:35
when I eventually told them flat out like,
03:36
yeah, I'm going to convert.
03:38
My mum just said,
03:39
I can see that you're happier now.
03:42
You're happier.
03:42
You're a better person.
03:43
You're no longer struggling with all of these things
03:46
that you were struggling with before.
03:54
So I just eat out most of the time.
03:57
Or order in if I'm feeling lazy.
04:02
This is the one that recently reopened.
04:05
I don't want to jinx it.
04:07
But let's just say that it's like the third or fourth coffee shop
04:09
that has opened in this slot since I moved in.
04:15
This is the other coffee shop.
04:17
It's quite glorious, right?
04:18
Like it's a full coffee shop.
04:21
Not a single choice.
04:22
I don't have anything that I can have here.
04:24
Like this is not an uncommon experience.
04:26
It's not the first time that I've been to a coffee shop or a food court
04:29
and then realised, oh, there's really nothing I can have here.
04:31
Then no choice, I'll walk somewhere else.
04:36
That's the thing about culture, right?
04:39
You don't think about it enough.
04:40
Unless you're in a situation where you are an outsider.
04:44
Then it's obvious to you that, oh, you know, something is different.
04:47
I'm not getting this.
04:48
Or you all seem to have some kind of inside joke
04:50
that I don't seem to understand.
04:51
I am in this position now, so I can see.
04:54
But when I was in Muslim Society,
04:56
I heard this feedback that, you know,
04:59
a lot of the things that we do,
05:00
the basic assumption is, yeah, we're all Muslims, yes.
05:02
But the majority is Malay.
05:05
So sometimes the cultural references that you make,
05:07
the things that you talk about,
05:09
make some of the non-Malay Muslims feel left out.
05:12
I mean, I am not, in fact, I don't feel as bad
05:15
because a lot of my own friends are Malay.
05:17
So like, I'm very culturally attuned, I guess.
05:20
Like, sure, Muslims are minority.
05:21
But if you're in a situation where you are the majority,
05:25
like in a Muslim Society or in a particular context,
05:28
then you're going to have the same blind spot
05:30
because you are the majority.
05:32
You're not going to think of, like, the non-Malay Muslims.
05:36
Usually, if you are speaking to a fellow Muslim
05:40
and then they find out that I'm a revert, I'm a convert,
05:43
first thing they'll say,
05:44
Mashallah.
05:45
But with my own family,
05:47
the first response was a little bit more measured
05:50
because my own family is quite, I guess, mixed religiously.
05:54
I have other branches of the family
05:56
that are Christian, for example.
05:58
They did ask, like, why, you know?
05:59
Because if you enter Christianity,
06:01
then, you know, it's another common space for the family.
06:05
But, you know, I'm the only Muslim now
06:07
in my entire extended family.
06:09
It's a bit isolating in that sense
06:11
because religion is faith, yes,
06:13
but there's also social elements, right?
06:15
I won't be able to, for example, go to mosque with family
06:18
and at the same time, I don't, I mean,
06:20
I wouldn't go to church with my Christian relatives, for example.
06:23
So there was that bit of apprehension.
06:27
My own parents, who are not very religious in any direction,
06:31
they themselves were quite concerned, I guess, in one way.
06:35
My mum was practical stuff.
06:37
It was like, how am I going to cook for you?
06:39
But for my dad, it was security in a sense
06:41
because when I was learning about Islam,
06:46
it was during the ISIS period
06:48
and so for him, it was quite concerning.
06:51
He actually asked my mum, like, I learned this a bit later.
06:53
He asked my mum in private,
06:55
is our son okay?
06:56
Is he, you know, being exposed to certain things?
07:00
And when it came down to me,
07:02
then I told him, like, you've got Muslim friends, you know?
07:05
Like, some of your best uncle friends in the neighbourhood
07:09
are Muslim.
07:09
You're Babar.
07:10
He's on very good terms with, you know?
07:12
I said, do you not realise?
07:14
Like, it's Singapore.
07:15
There's so many Muslims here.
07:22
Now we're going to go into a room.
07:24
It's a bit like a museum.
07:27
You have sahafs and translations from places like Europe.
07:33
This one, the Quran.
07:34
So it's German.
07:35
You have, I remember, I think there's Dutch also
07:37
if I remember correctly.
07:41
Oh, yes, here.
07:43
This, I remember, this really jumped out at me
07:45
because you have a Torah here,
07:48
which is the Jewish holy book.
07:50
And I guess this is like the interfaith corner
07:54
because you have the Sikh holy book as well.
07:56
I mean, I've learned a little bit about different religions.
07:58
So I'm a little bit familiar with
08:01
what some of these traditions are about.
08:04
I mean, we live in a time where,
08:07
especially if you consider a lot of Western media,
08:09
then your perception of Muslims
08:11
is going to be a bit skewed in that sense
08:12
because in the West, the perception of Muslims
08:14
is always like, oh, they're very exclusivist.
08:16
They don't like to mix around.
08:17
Over here, for example, in the middle of the mosque,
08:20
you have artefacts from Judaism.
08:24
I mean, you've got Christian Bibles as well.
08:26
You have Hindu texts as well.
08:28
I mean, there's a lot of mutual respect.
08:30
And it's by exposure to places like Balui, for example,
08:33
where I see the virtue, in a sense,
08:36
of multi-religiosity, multicultural.
08:39
I mean, in a sense, my family is multi-religious now, right?
08:42
We live in a world where we can live together.
08:46
We can co-exist.
08:48
There shouldn't be so much fear, I guess,
08:50
and apprehension about going
08:51
into somebody else's place of worship.
08:56
At the end of the day, I'm still Chinese, right?
08:58
And my family is not Muslim.
08:59
So a lot of Muslims in Singapore,
09:01
and everywhere, actually,
09:02
eat usually is super family-oriented.
09:05
So for me, Raya is usually a lot less festive
09:09
because everybody's busy with their own family.
09:11
And my family, to them, it's like just another day.
09:14
Raya is when I get really reminded
09:16
that I'm still an outsider,
09:17
in a sense of like, my family is not Muslim.
09:27
For iftar, it's just me at home.
09:30
And because my family doesn't even cook,
09:33
so it is, it can get quite depressing.
09:36
But like recently, I think like just last week,
09:38
I had a friend of mine invite me
09:40
over to his place for iftar.
09:42
So I was like, wow, this is such a nice experience
09:46
to be able to iftar with, you know,
09:49
like other people in a home setting,
09:52
because it was home-cooked food,
09:53
which I've not had in a very long time.
09:56
Okay, thank you.
10:12
I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything in particular
10:14
because I'm quite used to it already.
10:18
But the family aspect definitely is something that
10:20
it does sometimes hit me
10:22
because like when I speak to my own friends,
10:24
then they will obviously be talking about
10:25
how the pre-dawn meal,
10:27
maybe with their family and for iftar also.
10:29
I think for most people,
10:30
especially the first week of Ramadan,
10:32
they tend to make it a point
10:33
that they want to go home and breakfast with the family.
10:35
So when I hear them talk about that,
10:37
then obviously I'll be like,
10:39
I mean, sounds fun, sounds nice.
10:41
But I don't have that.
10:43
I won't deny, right,
10:45
that if your family is from the same faith as you,
10:48
it helps.
10:49
I don't have that connection
10:51
when it comes to the family side of things.
10:53
So when I see that,
10:55
I do feel a bit like,
10:56
wow, if only, you know.
11:04
I've known for a very long time
11:05
that I'm quite different.
11:07
I'm very comfortable with who I am
11:08
and I think the world's a free place.
11:11
And if anything,
11:13
my journey into Islam has also taught me that
11:16
we must all be able to respect people for being different.
11:19
So, you know, I've never issued this.
11:20
And in fact, people who haven't issued it,
11:23
don't stay very long in my life.
11:53
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