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00:00All right, everyone's been waiting for this one we have to hey Kyle, you know that Nick Sorenson dude you hired
00:08What about that?
00:10Could you please give us an evaluation sensation?
00:18Nick Sorenson
00:20Here's the answer. I think Nick's doing a real good job. I've been impressed with him since the beginning
00:25Each week, I like how he handles the defensive staff
00:28I like how they set up the practices and I've liked his game plans and I liked how he's called it
00:33So I've been real happy with Nick so far. Okay, there it is
00:36Everything is perfect
00:39Hey Kyle, did you notice that your old buddy Robert Sala got fired today?
00:42And I don't know fans would love for you to I don't know bring him in and send Nick back to where he came from
00:50Which is further down the staff. Yeah
00:52Not happening
00:54Right, he didn't he didn't I mean he didn't say that but he said that yeah
00:59He was asked about Robert Sala and just said jarring that it happened so fast
01:04They're playing for first place on Monday night, right and I texted him
01:08But I haven't had a chance to do anything other than that
01:11Because you know Thursday night and stuff and we're doing our thing and stuff and we're backed up and stuff
01:16yeah, no doubt, but then he was also asked about Nick Sorenson and
01:21And you just heard his answer
01:23They've been real happy with Nick. Yeah, love the job that he's doing
01:27I wonder if there was a follow-up which I my follow-up would be okay Kyle, you know put Nick aside
01:34What's wrong with your defense because they are?
01:3720th in football in yards per play and they're giving up more than half a yard per play
01:43More than they were last year under D'Amico and even in the last year under Bob Bob Sala
01:50This defense is giving up more yards than any defense you've had in the past seven years. What's the deal good follow-up?
01:57It's a good follow-up
01:59It wasn't asked that right you could read that fun little pro football focus stat that you just gave me though
02:05Yeah, what that's a pro football focus which grades every play from every position for every team ever and
02:13They have graded the Niners overall overall. So this is a combo platter
02:18Offense offense defense defense special teams special teams. They are ranked
02:25number one
02:26in the NFL in overall pro football focus grade
02:31They have an eighty seven point five grade
02:34Better than Baltimore number two Detroit is three then it's Pittsburgh Seattle and then the two undefeated
02:41Kansas City and Minnesota are six and seven the Niners are
02:46Number one
02:48Number one number one. So what do you make of that? Well offensively, they're number one and
02:53I'm looking at overall
02:56defense they are
02:58Number six and here's where I take some issues
03:03Before what number four based on what?
03:0887 maybe based on I guess they're they're field goal kicker who can flat-out tackle people
03:16Thank you
03:18Good answer. Thank you. They're leading the league and field goal kicker tackles
03:22I know no one wants to do this because everyone likes to only get mad at the bad and not get happy with the good
03:28Yes, but Jake Moody was having a very good year
03:30Yes, I understand that he missed what some of you feel is the most important kick of the year
03:35But what was he seven of eight six of seven seven of eight something like that? Okay, so he missed one kick outside of that
03:40He was very good. They also have a field goal block for a touchdown. So there's that yes
03:45But what else are we looking at?
03:46Well, we I think we would be looking at such things as net yards per punt attempt
03:52Which is the amount of yards your kick goes minus the amount of yards their return goes and they are far and away
04:00dead last
04:01DFL as we like to say dead
04:04Finishing Wow last. Thank you. Grady
04:0732.9 is their net
04:0931st is Tennessee at 36.5. So you are a full 10% worse
04:15Than the team in 31st. So I look at and I love PFF and maybe do you maybe I need to break up with PFF?
04:23Cuz well, that's hurting me mark. This would not be the first time that people got PFF numbers and when
04:29What'd you say? Thank you like that
04:34They can be head-scratching I get that I also though I don't think they can be that far gone
04:42like number one
04:44Even if you're not a PFF believer
04:47Like, okay fine. They're not number one. They're number eight
04:52You know what? I mean? Yeah other words. There's got to be something in those numbers
04:57That's speaking well about the Niners performance that's tucked under the covers. No. Yes. No, I get that
05:04Okay, and I I'm thinking more when I look at that rating
05:07I think more about your words and yesterday we got into it a little bit about your your comment that
05:14They could be and maybe they actually should be four and one. They should be so let's just say that they were four and one
05:20okay, let's just say that the Rams series of errors didn't all happen and they found a way to win that game Moody makes
05:29The kick they cover the punt
05:31Ward doesn't give up a 50 yarder and
05:34Devandre Campbell doesn't stagger into a ram receiver and give up a PI whatever one of those doesn't happen
05:40Okay, they beat the Rams and then you go to Arizona and Mason doesn't fumble
05:45So you're four and one if they were four and one and this rating was the exact same
05:50We'd feel differently about them being the number one overall rated team
05:54Might as well
05:54you might have just stumbled into a what I think could be a really fun question for our listeners and I just wanted to like
05:59I wanted to take up for you a little bit because well just when I see those ratings
06:05It made me think about what you said because yeah when you look at every play individually
06:10Every play is not the play that a two-and-three team would make they're playing better than a two-and-three team
06:17Yes, you are what your record says you are. Yes, but when it comes to PFF grades
06:21They're probably better than the 16th best team in football
06:24I think that that the two different people think there's a different definition between you are what your record says
06:31You are like I can agree with you
06:33But I actually think that I think that means something different than what you think
06:37Tell me when someone says you are what your record says you are my translation is
06:43Correct. They're two and three. So they're a game out of first
06:46It's simply math
06:48You are what your record says you are right?
06:51You're not allowed in the playoffs if your record is not better than the other teams
06:55So yes, you are what your record says you are, but I think a lot of people think it means
07:01Well, you're two and three so yes, you are equal to all of the other two and three teams out there in terms of your
07:08output
07:09You're not very good. You're an under 500 level performing team. I
07:14Don't buy that at all. I don't buy it for a second
07:17I get why some of you disagree and I'm okay with that
07:21I just don't see it that way and
07:24Maybe this PFF thing is one little feather in the cap of those of you who see it the way I do
07:30And I wonder how does this question land with you? This could be a fun one. Let's play this for a second
07:36Okay, eight at eight nine five seven nine five seventy which statement?
07:43Resonates more with you right now with 49er football. I'll give you two and you have to pick one
07:49Which one resonates with you more?
07:52Statement one
07:54The Niners are not as good as they think they are
08:00Statement two
08:02Niners should be four and one
08:06Go which one you like better I take the first one. Okay, I take the second one
08:10I know you do the second one second one second one second one
08:14Second one right and the second one speaks to what the pro football focus
08:19Raiders are saying which is you're in
08:2187.5 and if they were four and one and they probably would still be in
08:2687.5 we all would say yeah
08:27They're four and one and the one game they lost was a road game and Minnesota is five and oh and you know
08:33They're better than we thought and blah blah blah, you know Niners are still very good
08:36But I look at the the fact of the matter, which is you get into
08:42Nut crunching time as we like to say which has only to do with nuts not actual
08:48Male anatomy. Thank you. And when they get into that spot in the game
08:53they're either too tired too slow too soft too weak or
08:58a combination of all of them and they're not winning these games and so
09:02You are what your record says you are and a really good team
09:06Finds a way to win at least one of those games and probably both of them
09:10I guess you know, what's funny though when okay, you are what your record says you are to me
09:15There's a little bit of a cop-out that's tucked in there though
09:18Because for instance when the Niners were three and five I can buy again. You are what your record says you are
09:25Mathematically, but it doesn't mean I have to buy that an emotional response of no
09:31You're actually just not that good because then when they suddenly play better
09:36those of you who originally stated nope, you're three and five and you suck and
09:41Then you win five in a row then you just get to change your answer
09:46All of a sudden you get to change your answer and go well now they're good
09:50Well, then but then then you weren't what your record says you are other than mathematically
09:55So right now I will argue. Yes, they are two and three
10:01Mathematically, does that mean I think that they are the exact same team as
10:06Hold on checks notes. Give me a second. Let me pull this up
10:11Oh, there's a lot of I know but I want a good example that really speaks to what I'm feeling Arizona's a good one
10:15No, yeah. Okay. So what you're telling me is
10:19You think the Niners and the Raiders are at the same level or the New York Giants?
10:24Let's do Raiders. Sure a lot of Raider fans listening right now
10:28Okay, do you think Joe Spadoni would sit here in this room right now and be like, yep same team?
10:35Probably no, he wouldn't I listen to him every morning. He wouldn't well
10:39It's because it's a joke that 49er fans get mad at Kyle Shanahan
10:42There's a different emotion with Raider fans cut his left leg off right now for Kyle Shanahan to coach that team
10:48There's a different emotion with Raider fans because there's a level of built-in self-hatred. That is not a fair call
10:55It's kind of true for every team in that not the Niners. I'm not the Niners. I don't know. I'm feeling it right now
11:00They're not self-hatred. They're Shanahan hating
11:03They're Shanahan hating. They're not hating on themselves. They're looking at the reasons why they are two and three
11:10You believe the Niners and the two of us Miami Dolphins are the same squad
11:14No, the Niners are a disappointment the Dolphins. They're a nice little story. I'm not a disappointment got no quarterback
11:21They're a nice little story. People are literally begging their quarterback to stop playing football. It's not a nice story at all
11:28It's a nice story that they have two wins because they may not win again
11:31And if you want to look at the other two and three teams
11:34Every two and three team is not created equally the Jets are two and three
11:38They fired their head coach
11:39the Dolphins are two and three and they have no quarterback the Raiders are two and three and
11:44they probably want to lose more than they want to win for draft purposes in these two and three and they're stoked because
11:52They have rediscovered their quarterback who is 47 years old and they're loving it again
11:57No semantics argument, but if you're telling everything is different if you're well
12:02Then you aren't what your records as you are
12:05No, you just said that every two and three team can be different
12:09well
12:10if every two and three team can be different then I get to sit here and tell you that the Niners are way better than
12:16Other two and three teams. Well, every team is two and three
12:21The math is all that matter
12:22No, it's not the end of it at the end of it
12:26Right and we can have this discussion about semantics and the Giants are two and three and they just beat Seattle in a fun little
12:35Plucky fashion and so they're two and three thinking sweet
12:38We stole one the Niners are two and three and they just spit on themselves again for the second time in three weeks
12:44But again, if you just think all two and three means two and three
12:48Well, then the Niners didn't spit on themselves because actually turns out they stink
12:51So it's really awesome that they've got two wins. They got Seattle then they're three and three
12:55Yeah, we think differently about everyone's is two and three and their quarterback is getting an MRI, right?
13:01And they lost to Kansas City unnecessarily and through to well, not unnecessarily. They got their butts kicked all night long
13:07He chucked it up
13:20The pig is in for Thursday night, by the way
13:23The pig is in you should think about it long and hard
13:26You better you better recognize
13:32The pig is in okay, let's save it. So listen, you guys are gonna love it. I totally get where you're coming from
13:38I know you totally get where I'm coming totally and so yeah, I'm gonna like that. That's where I stand
13:43I don't think all two and three adds up to the same thing and I still believe as does Vegas and
13:50and and and so many of you that the 49ers are better than this and
13:55And and they should have won those games. They they outplayed those teams for the majority of the game
14:01Does that mean that those were good performances? No, certainly not the one last weekend. They didn't outplay them by enough
14:08They're making mistakes that are coughing up games, but I don't think all losses are built the same either you lose 56 to 3
14:16Okay, but if you're up by 14 points in the fourth quarter and you gag that that's a different problem
14:22It's still a problem. Yeah, but it's a different problem. So
14:26That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying and I do I don't even know what the hell PFF
14:31How do they come up with this number? I don't know what the algorithm is
14:35I just know that that has to say something because the teams that they're in that list with I
14:42do feel that they are commensurate with those teams and
14:46And those will probably be the majority of the teams that are bouncing around at the end of all of this
14:52I don't know if the Niners will be one of them. I think they're capable. The Ravens are fantastic. Yeah, we know the Chiefs
14:59That's no mystery. We know Troy in Pittsburgh
15:01we know the Lions Pittsburgh will always find a way even though they never look like they've got any talent on offense and
15:07And and Minnesota is the party crasher and I believe in them
15:12So there's your list
15:14But I would I would hope that as a Niner fan, would you be kind of encouraged by that?
15:20To know that actually there is some data that suggests that under the covers
15:25With all the mistakes going on. There's actually also some some some ball moving going on like there's some football being played
15:32Yes, because you watch these other teams
15:35Like I there are a lot of callers to this radio station. I would like to buy them the red zone package
15:41You need to watch some of these other teams play football
15:43Not a lot of great football out there before you decide
15:46To tell everybody that the Niners suck and they need to fire their coach and Brock's not worth 60. You should watch
15:53These other teams try to move the ball
15:56You should check it out
15:57It's really quite a thing
15:58But you should also look at these numbers and I'm done diving deep into the pro football focus numbers and the 49ers in
16:06Run defense, they are 25th and in tackling and you mentioned this before there are problems
16:13I think they missed 15 tackles. They were brutal and in tackling
16:18They're 23rd in just straight-up tackling and pass rush pass rush
16:24They're actually 6th
16:25But it's really run defense and tackling in this as far as the metrics go where they're falling short
16:32Rod and Vallejo on weather and dibs. Hi Rod. What's cooking?
16:37great show
16:39Listen to you every day. Thanks, Rod. I'm gonna put I'm gonna put this out. Just let me talk for a couple of minutes
16:45The 49ers the NFL does not want the 49ers to be the face of the NFL
16:51They are being
16:53San Francisco's
16:55Politically, I hate it city and it's showing with this officiating you look at that first Super Bowl
17:01Crabtree I was a blatant hole on that last play
17:05Representing right there. No flag the first Super Bowl with the Chiefs when Tyreek Hill on that long pass play
17:13Bolsa had have been using a head rush the whole game
17:16He put an inside move on a Kansas City tackle had a straight line going to the home
17:22And he had no recourse but to put a bear hug on him
17:25That's why both was crying after the game that played the other day with JP Mason
17:29they called deep overholding a bogus call the 49ers Kyle Shanahan and
17:36Jet York need to go to that NFL office and say hey, San Francisco made me hate it politically
17:42But don't take it out on our team, right?
17:45You should keep the rod. Thank you. Yeah, you should keep cooking the NFL officiating
17:51Association are a bunch of Trumpers. Oh boy. Hey, they hate South the market and
17:57They are taking it out on the 49ers with flies I agree
18:00No, he's not going far enough because if you go back to 1970 John Brody against the Dallas Cowboys, which I believe was
18:09Nixon
18:10Nixon might have been LBJ John Brody there was a roughing the passer
18:15They didn't call you need to answer for the officials in this league. Yeah, they are on a mission
18:22Yeah on some sort of a mission and it is not a savory I hate referee dibs
18:27What's interesting is for those of you who watch the game this past Sunday?
18:32Nobody had blank to say about the officials because they didn't call anything if you look at the penalties in that game
18:39There weren't many penalties called and it was kind of nice and refreshing it was and I don't even know the refs name
18:45I know he has a different name Bob. No, it was like
18:49It was like two
18:52Pronouns like not pronouns, but to write random nouns like Hall Smith or I'll look up his name, but it's not me
18:59I don't think Smith is a noun, but you're getting the point his first home was something like
19:04Like locker or Hall or cooler
19:08Phenomenal, I'll look at I love a good like, you know unique name
19:11I'm in I'm in I'm in on that and I'm in on politics being the reason why the 49ers are two and three
19:17Yeah, no doubt
19:18Yeah, no doubt, but not too much politics because it's like they can get to the Super Bowl
19:23But they can't win the Super Bowl. Of course not right?
19:27Who are they playing this weekend? Seattle Washington's a blue state too, right?
19:31Oh crap refs aren't gonna know what to call right what to do blue versus blue on Thursday night. That'll be tough
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