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00:00Welcome back with us, Pemirsa, and this time we're going to talk about the trend of startup funding when tech winter is down.
00:11Still with me, Prisa Sompodatu.
00:13And I'm Wiky Adria, and this time we're connected with Mr. Heru Sutadi, Director Executive Indonesia ICT Institute.
00:20How are you, Mr. Heru?
00:22How are you, Mr. Wiki, Mrs. Prisa, how are you?
00:25I'm great, thank you for joining us.
00:28Mr. Heru, I want to get a point of view from you.
00:32Is it true that tech winter is over?
00:35At the beginning of 2024, it was announced that tech winter was down,
00:40but then concerns about tech winter came back in the middle of the year.
00:45But from your point of view, is it true that it's over or not?
00:49Mr. Heru, what are the indicators related to tech winter?
00:53Yes, so the tech winter issue is quite a burden for startup developers.
01:00So if we look at 2021, the number of startup loans reached USD 4.6 billion.
01:11So USD 4.6 billion.
01:14Meanwhile, the decline is quite sharp.
01:17In 2024, it was only up to USD 1 billion.
01:22So it certainly hit a lot of startups, but on the other hand, it also gives a new chance.
01:31Because when the funding of venture capital goes down,
01:36it also opens up opportunities for startups to enter the stock market or IPO.
01:43If we look at 2024, the decline from USD 4.6 billion to USD 1 billion is quite noticeable.
01:51And someone said that in 2024, tech winter is a bit low.
01:57Yes, it's a bit low, but we can't say that it's already in a stable position
02:05and will continue to rebound.
02:09Because there are still a lot of things that will affect whether tech winter will happen again or not.
02:18Because if we look at it, for example, at that time, we were crowded.
02:21For example, it was also pushed by Russia, Ukraine, then in the Middle East, etc.
02:27But now, the new normal has already formed.
02:32And indeed, there is also a new trend when a lot of startups fall in value,
02:39even though there are also a lot of them that have not yet been established.
02:42On the other hand, this also gives new hope for investors in venture capital.
02:50Because it's cheap, some of them also buy it.
02:54Usually, when there is a crisis, there are also those who take advantage of it to buy startups
03:01that may still have potential in the future, but at a cheap price.
03:08It means that if tech winter is said to be declining,
03:12yes, but then venture capital is more selective for funding.
03:18In fact, the impact of tech winter itself is that there are a lot of startup valuations that then go down a lot,
03:23but then venture capital does it to chip in again,
03:26because it believes in the growth of the startup.
03:30And this is considered as an opportunity for the startup itself to grow even bigger.
03:38Yes, that's right. So, with a cheap price, a lot of people will buy it.
03:42In addition, there are a lot of startups that have done PHK, etc.
03:47So maybe now they are more efficient,
03:51and can also push the startup to survive and move forward.
03:58And indeed, now there is a new development in the world of technology.
04:03So even though the startup also chooses which is invested,
04:07which has a pretty good future, then the price is cheap.
04:11In addition, it also adopts new technology.
04:15As we know now, we adopt what we call 4.0 technology or revolution.
04:23Internet of Things, Data Analytics, Artificial Intelligence,
04:27and it turns out that a lot of venture capital investment goes to companies related to AI.
04:36This is also booming.
04:38Then there is also the financial sector, especially the financial sector that is not national,
04:44but the financial sector that is local or regional,
04:48this is also starting to be explored again.
04:52In addition, if we look at the issue of insurance,
04:57this is also developing for investors to enter startups like that.
05:04Maybe for those who ask, what is TechWinter?
05:08This is a challenge for the technology industry.
05:12Later we will go further.
05:15Yes, and we will be back soon.
05:20Thank you, Mr. Mir, for coming back with us.
05:22Still talking with the Executive Director of the Indonesian ICT Institute, Mr. Heru Sutadi.
05:28Mr. Heru, if we talk about TechWinter,
05:34a period full of challenges for the technology industry,
05:37what is the indicator if you say that it is already starting to shrink?
05:42Maybe an example of a case, Mr. Heru.
05:45In Indonesia, before that, almost every month,
05:48startups, both small and large-scale,
05:52the number of employees was quite large.
05:55If now in 2024, it is quite calculated.
05:59There are some who still do PHK,
06:02but not quite a lot and not often done.
06:06This means that the company has survived
06:09and is ready to welcome developments in the future.
06:13Secondly, yesterday we also discussed with the data center manager in Indonesia
06:19that now the capacity used or the demand for the provision of data center capacity
06:25also increases, especially with the presence of artificial intelligence.
06:29This also means that now new technologies such as AI
06:33also provide opportunities for new startups to emerge.
06:38And indeed, the presence of companies, for example, related to financial technology,
06:45yesterday it was from 300 companies,
06:49now it has reached 100 companies
06:51and the figure in a few months is quite stable.
06:55So, this is also an early indicator that
06:59maybe the trend of TechWinter has started to decline.
07:03Maybe there are a few bumps ahead,
07:05but it is estimated that by the end of this year it will be quite stable.
07:10So, in 2025, maybe the startup competition will start again more tightly.
07:16Okay, startup friends, maybe those who have just said,
07:18oh, now it has started to recruit again,
07:20and from venture capital also started to fund again.
07:24Earlier you mentioned several sectors that seem to be interesting from the point of view of venture capital,
07:29including those related to the internet of things,
07:31AI, insurance, and you also mentioned financial services
07:35which are based locally and regionally.
07:37Well, looking at the funding trend,
07:39will it be done gradually to these potential sectors?
07:43Or actually from venture capital friends,
07:46will it still be selective?
07:48Of course, it will fund gradually,
07:51enter the pre-seed first, series A, etc.
07:54By making profitability as one of the main indicators,
08:01do you want to continue to chip in or not?
08:03What do you think, Mr. Eru?
08:05Yes, funding starts from pre-seed, seed, then series A, series B, etc.
08:11So, this is a normal process.
08:14But if we look at it, with the advent of this new technology,
08:18it also gives a chance for startups to get funding.
08:22Because if we develop a startup,
08:26whose market is already quite strong,
08:29for example, online transportation,
08:322-3 players are already strong enough.
08:34Even 2 players are strong enough.
08:36So, if we enter the same business,
08:41it will be very difficult for us to get investors,
08:45including e-commerce.
08:47Moreover, the e-commerce capital is also very large.
08:51So, there is still funding for old startup models,
08:57e-commerce, retailing, etc.
08:59But this is very selective,
09:00and maybe it's only given to companies that are already very agile
09:04and have the potential to move forward.
09:07But for new players,
09:10we have to adopt the development of 4.0 technology.
09:15Internet of Things, Data Analytics, Artificial Intelligence.
09:18Because there is one market,
09:21maybe Artificial Intelligence is more popular now,
09:23but we can localize it,
09:26so that what we used to call Red Ocean
09:29can be made into Blue Ocean.
09:33This is the financial sector.
09:36So, the national financial sector is quite busy.
09:38But if we talk about regional finance,
09:42this is still not well-developed.
09:45Especially digital finance, digital payments.
09:48I see there are still many sectors that can be developed again
09:52in terms of technology.
09:56That's it for TechWinter, Mr. Heru.
09:59In any sector,
10:00if you join AI or Internet of Things,
10:04maybe it's more favorable from the point of view of venture capital.
10:07More or less like that, right, Mr. Heru?
10:09Yes, that's right.
10:10Besides, usually investors will see
10:13what the future potential is like.
10:15That's right, that's the most important.
10:16Then also how much use it has.
10:18Then maybe later,
10:20what kind of financial projection it has.
10:23Including how much data they will store.
10:26This is quite important.
10:28All right, Mr. Heru.
10:29I hope this can be a reference for all of us.
10:32Good luck.
10:33For you, next time we'll have a longer conversation, Mr. Heru.
10:37Thank you, Mr. Heru. Good luck.
10:39See you again.
10:41All right.
10:42And before we finish,
10:44we will see first the update of the movement in SG
10:47at 9.20.
10:496 minutes is when I was in the west.
10:51SG is observed to strengthen 0.35% at 7,858,
10:56with the exchange rate of Rupiah at 15,344,
10:59slightly weakening.
11:00All right.
11:01Then, Gainers and Losers.
11:02The sectors that lead the strengthening are
11:04health, property, finance, and also technology.
11:06Then at Gainers, there are
11:07international assets, GCTC,
11:09then there is also land, real estate,
11:11BSBK, MAPI, and so on.
11:13Then at Losers, there are BHAT, PSAB, SMEL,
11:16then HMSP, MPOW, VC, and so on.
11:20Yes, ASI is again strengthening, leading the rise,
11:23and all sectors are up to 9 o'clock,
11:27more than 29 minutes.
11:28At the time of West Indonesia,
11:29it was about 30 minutes after the opening,
11:30still in a positive territory.
11:34And it's been 90 minutes,
11:37we accompany you in Power Breakfast.
11:39Hopefully today's discussion
11:40can be a reference and source of information for you.
11:42Keep your information only on IDX Channel,
11:45your trustworthy and comprehensive investment preference.
11:47And don't forget to watch the Market Review program
11:50which airs at 10 o'clock West Indonesia time.
11:53Because the business of the future must move forward,
11:55I am a stock investor.
11:56I am Prisa Sompodato.
11:57I am WK Adrian.
11:58See you.
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