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'It's a mess' - Tony Cottee's verdict on former club Everton
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1 year ago
We meet Tony Cottee, who speaks on his new charity venture, his football career, players to watch this season. Plus he gives his verdict on former club Everton.
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00:00
So, Tony, just tell us a bit about the charity that you've become an ambassador for, obviously,
00:06
you know, quite an interesting one with the motor neurone disease.
00:10
Yeah, nice to meet you, Charles. It's called Challenging MND, obviously motor neurone disease.
00:20
It's a disease that I've been aware of for quite a long time and I think, you know, a
00:24
lot of people sort of know about it, but it's just something that sort of I felt that I
00:31
could maybe contribute towards, you know, I've got a friend of mine, a guy called Steve
00:35
Redgewell, who's a big West Ham fan, and he sort of said, like, you know, do you want
00:39
to sit down, have a little chat, see if there's something you can help out with? And I thought,
00:43
yeah, and then I had a chat, met Alex Gibson, the founder, and, you know, we got on really
00:48
well, and Liana as well, who's the CEO, and, yeah, we had a lovely chat, a nice cup of
00:55
tea over in Brentwood, and, yeah, we felt it was something that, you know, I could perhaps
00:59
be involved in and put my name to, and, you know, I mean, obviously, I can't work miracles,
01:04
I know that, but I think it's just nice sometimes just to, you know, with the awareness and
01:09
just, you know, doing some fundraising events and, you know, for me, giving my time and
01:14
turning up, and there's a ball on November the 23rd, as an example, and I'm going to
01:20
use my skills as an auctioneer to try and fleece everyone out as much money as possible
01:24
to go towards the charity and obviously make as much difference as we can, but I think
01:29
I was particularly sort of drawn to Rob Burrow, really, and Kevin Sinfield, and, you know,
01:37
the two rugby boys and their relationship they had, and to watch what happened over
01:41
the course of the two years, and, you know, that sort of bond they had together and that,
01:45
and I think that sort of struck a chord in me. I know it's rugby, but, you know, with
01:49
football as well, you know, it could happen to anyone, and, you know, it's not a nice
01:54
disease, and it's just, if I can help in any small way, Charles, you know, I'll do my best
01:57
to do that, and it's, you know, it's great to be an honorary patron.
02:01
Well, you've answered a few of my questions in one there, mate. In terms of your career
02:07
highlights, I mean, you seem to be a bit of a cult hero wherever you went. Obviously,
02:11
you know, you are before my generation. I've done my bit of...
02:13
You're too young to remember me, Charles.
02:15
Yeah, just about. But, I mean, in terms of your football career, quite a long time as
02:21
well, was there a sort of favourite period of your career where, you know, you really
02:27
sort of enjoyed it and you really were happy with how things were going?
02:31
Yeah, I think, I mean, I was very fortunate to play for three, you know, big Premier League
02:35
clubs, West Ham, Everton and Leicester as well, amongst other clubs, you know, that
02:40
I played for. I played for my country, et cetera, you know. So, you're right, I had a
02:45
wonderful career, 20 years spanning. And, you know, I think it's only when you've retired,
02:51
really, that you can sort of take stock and look back and sort of reminisce, really, on,
02:55
you know, where the good times were and that. And, you know, although I enjoy playing at
02:59
all my clubs, I think my best spell, really, as a player was probably my first spell at
03:03
West Ham. I was only a teenager playing with Trevor Brookings and Billy Bonds and Frank
03:09
Lampard Senior and, you know, some wonderful players at the football club. And I don't
03:13
think you quite appreciate it at the time, but it probably was my best spell, the most
03:18
productive in terms of the goals and that. So, yeah, it's sort of hard to say, in a way,
03:22
that the first spell was the best spell. But, you know, you've got to be honest and realistic
03:26
about things. And although I scored goals at, you know, Everton, I went back to West
03:30
Ham, I scored goals for Leicester, I think that first spell back in the 80s, it was a
03:34
great time to play football. It was very primitive, very basic, and there was a lot going on off
03:39
the field, as I'm sure you're well aware of. You know, it wasn't just about football,
03:44
the other stuff that was going on, but, you know, the pitches were horrendous and, you
03:49
know, it was just, there was something special about it. And I think those of you that, you
03:54
know, that are old enough to remember that, not yourself, Charles, obviously, but, you
03:57
know, if you're from that generation, I think we look back with great fondness to the 80s
04:01
and I had a great time there as a West Ham player.
04:04
Yeah, and getting the England call-up, do you sort of recall, you know, getting the
04:09
news and how was that for you at that time in your career? You know, such a massive
04:15
achievement. I mean, you know, sometimes you look at squads that players get into an
04:20
England call-up and you're lucky to get one appearance. I mean, you got seven, it was
04:23
a fantastic time for you. What was that sort of like for you at that time?
04:27
Well, I just missed the Mexico World Cup, which was 1986, which was the famous Diego
04:32
Maradona handball World Cup and, you know, England had done really well. So, for me to
04:37
get in the squad for the start of the following season, September, was always going to be
04:41
difficult and there were so many great players in the squad at the time. You know, they got
04:46
quarter-finals in 1986 and obviously in 1990 got to the semi-final. So, you know, there
04:51
was a lot of good players around, the likes of Lineker and Beardsley, Clive Allen, Mark
04:55
Hapley, Kerry Dixon, Mick Harford, good centre-forward. So, it was really hard to get Steve Ball and
05:00
no-one at walls. You know, there was good players there and for me to get in the squad,
05:04
I remember I got an official letter, no mobiles in those days, no emails. It was just an old
05:09
school letter and I remember John Lowe, the West Ham manager, calling me in and saying
05:13
congratulations. You know, but I'd been in the first team for three years, been banging
05:18
the goals in. So, you know, I think I was really pleased and proud of that fact and,
05:23
you know, although again with my England career, I look back and think perhaps or maybe I should
05:28
have won more caps, but I still won seven caps and it was an era where it was hard to
05:33
win caps. There was a lot of good English centre-forwards. There was only one or two
05:36
subs. You didn't have the 15 subs they have nowadays. So, it was a lot harder to win England
05:41
caps. So, I look back and, you know, I'm very proud of the fact that they're sitting up
05:45
over my shoulder and, you know, there's seven England caps for me to look back with great
05:49
pride about really.
05:52
And in terms of the new Premier League season, obviously excitement's been building and we're
05:56
back into the swing of things now. You know, it sort of is a bit of a rollercoaster until,
06:01
you know, the start of next summer. Just in terms of a standout player for you,
06:06
you may be looking at throughout the season. Obviously, Phil Foden had a brilliant one,
06:10
and you can claim that player of the season last season maybe didn't back it up at the Euros.
06:15
But in terms of a player, who do you sort of think could be a standout in terms of the
06:19
top flight this year?
06:20
Well, I'm always a big champion for the English and British players, Charles. So, yeah,
06:25
Phil Foden's someone I'm looking forward to seeing this season. And the other one for me
06:29
is Cole Palmer because I think he was sensational at the Euros. I couldn't believe that he didn't
06:34
get a starting place in that team because he'd been so good for Chelsea last year. And
06:39
he just looks such a laid-back character. He doesn't look like anything phases him. You know,
06:44
even if he was playing in a World Cup final, I don't think he would even be worried about that.
06:48
And, you know, in terms of penalties, he looks as ice-cool as anyone I've seen taking penalties. So,
06:54
I'm looking forward to seeing Cole have another good season. And, you know, ultimately,
06:58
we want over the next couple of years, we need Cole Palmer, we need Phil Foden and all the other
07:03
good youngsters that are coming through, Kobe Maynard, etc. You know, we need those boys to
07:08
keep developing over the next couple of years because, you know, as a proud Englishman,
07:12
I want us to try and do well with the World Cup in 2026 coming up. And, of course, the Euros
07:17
are going to be in the UK in 2028 as well. So, I think there's a couple of really good
07:21
opportunities for England to, under a new manager, of course, but, you know, to hopefully,
07:25
you know, win that elusive trophy that we've been waiting so long for. But Cole Palmer is
07:29
the one for me, you know. We all love the Premier League and I'm looking forward to seeing him.
07:33
I'd better mention Jared Bowen as well as the West Ham boy, you know, another Englishman.
07:36
I want to see how well Jared does after a fantastic season last year. It'd be nice
07:40
to see him getting another 20 goals. And just on Everton, I mean, a lot's going on,
07:47
you know, you had a great spell there as well. A lot's going on in terms of their situation
07:51
financially and, you know, the last few years, they've been nowhere near the sort of standards
07:55
that they were and it's been a bit of a fall off. They're obviously going to the new stadium
08:00
next year as well. What are your thoughts on what they've been through, what they're
08:04
going through and, you know, a bit of a shame really for Everton. What are your thoughts on that?
08:10
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, just there's been a lot of mismanagement. I think off the
08:14
field, there's been mismanagement and certainly on the field as well. There's been a lot of
08:18
money spent on players that, you know, in my opinion, aren't good enough for Everton Football
08:22
Club. You know, the last three or four years have been really, really, five, six years have been
08:27
heavy spending by the club, you know, and not that many of the players that the big money was spent
08:33
on have been wise investments. And, you know, we always talk about recruitment and recruitment's
08:38
the most important thing in football. You've got to get the signings right. Obviously off the field,
08:43
you know, there's been all the well publicized problems, you know, obviously the points deductions
08:48
and that. And there's a, I think there's a chance of another points deduction coming up as well,
08:52
which won't help things. Disappointing start to the season as well. I haven't seen the highlights
08:56
yet. I haven't had time. But, you know, obviously losing at home to Brighton is not a good start
09:01
for the season. And, you know, I think it's just so important that come the end of this season that
09:06
Everton Football Club give Goodison Park the send-off it deserves, really. You know, it's a
09:11
fantastic stadium. It's a historic stadium. It's been down for years and years. I had a great time.
09:16
All my goals were scored there. And, you know, I want to see the stadium being given the send-off.
09:21
It deserves. And the one thing we don't want is give the stadium a good send-off and then,
09:26
of course, be playing championship football in, you know, in Bramley Dock next year. That doesn't
09:30
do anyone any favours, you know. So there's a, it's a bit of a mess. I've got to be honest. It's
09:34
got to be sorted out. They need to take over to go through whoever that, the new owners might be,
09:39
need that as quick as possible. And you need, you know, just as importantly, if not more importantly,
09:44
the players on the pitch have got to step up and get the results. They've got a good manager.
09:47
Sean Dicey's a good man, good manager. And, you know, I'm confident they'll stay up. But
09:53
I do think it's going to be another rollercoaster season for Everton, which no one wants to see
09:57
that. We want to see Everton, you know, doing what West Ham have done over the last three or
10:00
four seasons, which is pushing and playing in Europe, really. And, you know, there's a lot
10:05
that needs to be sorted out, but I'm confident they'll get there eventually.
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