Balochistan Mein La Patah Afraad.. Dehsatgardi Mein Mulawis Hukoomat Ne Bara Faisla Kar Liya. .

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00:00Ladies and gentlemen, in two of the most important provinces of Pakistan, the situation is tense at this time.

00:05There are increasing incidents of terrorism in KPK and Balochistan.

00:08This is due to the fact that there is an aim of terrorism at this time,

00:12to which Mohsin Naqvi Sahib is pointing out that the SCO conference is not allowed.

00:17He is also pointing out that there are some countries and some evidences

00:22which cannot be denied in any way.

00:25If we extrapolate ourselves,

00:27then the situation goes towards India and Afghanistan.

00:30It should be kept in mind that at this time,

00:32the increasing incidents of terrorism in Balochistan and KPK

00:38have certainly shaken the whole country at one time

00:42and has also become a target of politics at this time.

00:45Because we saw this discussion happening in the Senate even today.

00:48The day before yesterday, the Prime Minister of Pakistan went to Quetta.

00:52He held a formal meeting of the Apex Committee.

00:55And in that meeting, he made it very clear that

00:58not to talk to terrorists, but to talk about the law of Pakistan.

01:04Even today, Mr. Shabaz Sharif said that the kind of environment that was created on the 26th,

01:10that was not normal.

01:12To discuss this topic with us, Mr. Muhammad Ali is present.

01:15He is an expert in national security issues.

01:17Thank you very much for joining us, Ali. It's a pleasure having you.

01:19Mr. Ali, first of all, tell us that Balochistan and KPK have become very sensitive matters.

01:23The Interior Minister has also added this to the SCO meeting

01:26that they basically don't want to hold a conference.

01:28The rest of the countries have a problem.

01:30Terrorism is increasing. It is becoming difficult for a common Pakistani.

01:33First of all, the economic conditions are bad here.

01:35Along with this, how are we going to tackle it?

01:37Terrorism needs three types of support.

01:41One, they need weapons.

01:44One, they need financial support.

01:47And the most important thing is that they need social and political support.

01:53So, I think that the political leadership of all the parties should understand the sensitivity of this.

02:02If we want to end terrorism, then our intelligence agencies and our defence forces are doing a great job.

02:10But if we want to end terrorism, then along with financial support,

02:17the organizations that are creating a social atmosphere for the Baloch Jihadi Council,

02:26or the political elements that are demanding political and national security for their own personal benefit,

02:33I think they should understand the importance and demands of national security.

02:38And they should object to the terrorists who expect political support.

02:45Yes, they should understand this.

02:47But in KPK, the government of Pakistan, they would be understanding, I assume.

02:52But the problem here is that there are two perspectives.

02:55One says, like the Prime Minister said, like the Interior Minister said,

02:59that those who will follow the Pakistani constitution, that is fine.

03:02Those who will not follow the constitution, then the same attitude will be followed,

03:05which should be followed with terrorism.

03:07PTI says that for everything, you have to come to the table.

03:09You have to come to the table and talk.

03:10Do you think that a conversation can take us to a point where the terrorists say,

03:16okay, the conversation was very good, I will take up arms.

03:18Look, a conversation can happen with someone who respects the Pakistani constitution and law.

03:25The constitution of Pakistan means that the condition of Shirk, Shariah,

03:30is unconditional and total sovereignty and loyalty to the state.

03:37This constitution has two layers.

03:40All the fundamental freedoms and rights that a citizen has,

03:45instead of this promise that he will be loyal to the state of Pakistan,

03:51if he follows that, if he respects that,

03:55whether he attacks the GHQ, whether he kills innocent workers and teachers,

04:00or does any anti-state activity,

04:03and holds hands with the law and the constitution,

04:07and commits violence,

04:09and then it is expected from them that with criminals,

04:12who have been convicted of violating the constitution and law,

04:16negotiations will be held with them.

04:18If you cannot talk to a criminal, then how can you talk to a terrorist?

04:22Terrorists can also talk to criminals.

04:24Look, there is an attack on the GHQ,

04:26that such people come who keep a beard,

04:28and maybe they wear Peshawari slippers and speak Pashto,

04:33then you will have a different attitude from them.

04:35And if you are wearing jeans, you are wearing joggers,

04:38and you speak English, and you have a liberal worldview,

04:41then the judiciary will look at the actual action.

04:44It will not punish you by looking at your style, your statement, your clothes.

04:50Okay, fine.

04:51Interestingly, today is the International Day of Forced Disappearance,

04:55and a big issue of forced disappearance is raised in our country,

04:58and on some sides, there will be an actual issue,

05:01that a terrorist has been given, or someone is really in jail,

05:04and no one knows.

05:05But some forced disappearances are named,

05:08the names of missing persons are given.

05:10I would like to keep some data in front of you.

05:12There are some such people, some such individuals,

05:14who are said to be missing persons.

05:16Listen to where these missing persons come from.

05:19The person who attacked himself at the FC camp in Bela,

05:22was included in the list of missing persons.

05:24The terrorist organization BLA,

05:26had filed a case by naming Tayyab Baloch as a missing person,

05:29that Tayyab Baloch and Ilyas Lala were residing in Noshki.

05:32A terrorist who was involved in the attack at the Gwadar Port Authority Complex,

05:36Kareem Jaan was also included in the list of missing persons.

05:39Kareem Jaan was residing in Turbat,

05:41and he was killed in the attack at Gwadar.

05:44Then there is one more, Imtiaz Ahmed, son of Raza Muhammad,

05:48he was also included in the list of missing persons.

05:51He was killed in the security forces' investigation.

05:54It was found out that he was also involved with terrorists.

05:57Abdul Wadood was missing since 12th August 2021,

06:01and he was also included in the list of missing persons.

06:04He was also killed in the attack, while doing terrorist activity.

06:08Now Ali Mahmood sir, the problem is that,

06:11on one hand, there are missing persons, genuine missing persons,

06:15their case is ruined by terrorism.

06:17What should be done about this?

06:19There are three types of missing persons.

06:21One is the reality.

06:22The first thing is that this is a global problem.

06:24Pakistan is not specific.

06:25You know that lakhs of people are missing in countries like Britain.

06:28I actually have the list.

06:29Lakhs of people are missing in Britain.

06:31In UK, 2,41,000.

06:32Yes, exactly.

06:33In Suriname, 21,000.

06:35And more than 3,00,000 are missing in India.

06:37In India, 3,50,000.

06:38So, the thing is that there is a method to the madness, Anika.

06:41There are four stages.

06:42This is a great and amazing wisdom.

06:44The first thing is that a student organization is made up of foreign funding,

06:48there is no sensitivity in it,

06:51and a mentality is created against the state.

06:54And then the next stage is that the student graduates

06:58and joins a terrorist organization properly.

07:01He goes to another country,

07:03there he gets training in a terrorist camp.

07:05And here a third front is made up.

07:07A joint council is formed, an NGO is formed,

07:09which tells that, look, this is a missing person,

07:12so that the state is increased in its embassy and political and legal pressure.

07:15This is its third stage.

07:17Then it happens fast forward, as you said,

07:19that he is involved in a terrorist act.

07:21And when our forces destroy him,

07:25then it is found that he was put in a missing person.

07:28And the state was being blamed for this.

07:30This was a terrorist act.

07:32So, I think this is the whole wisdom,

07:35which has one aspect, which is the consensus.

07:38How to curtail and curb it at the same point,

07:42where there is a consensus.

07:44Like in Balochistan, in many places,

07:46even in universities, there is such a consensus.

07:48There is brainwashing.

07:50How to curb it there?

07:52Because our young people, educated young people,

07:54if they get involved in terrorism,

07:56then their future is ruined.

07:58Look, the biggest thing is that stage.

08:00It is also a matter of our family.

08:02It is also a matter of our schools.

08:04It is also a matter of the state.

08:06It is also a matter of the media.

08:08If they keep the thoughts of our young generation positive,

08:12give them opportunity, give them hope,

08:15give them trust and confidence in Pakistan.

08:17If a boy from Balochistan,

08:19can become the elected president of Oxford University's Student Union.

08:23If a boy from Balochistan,

08:26can become the Chief Justice one day.

08:28If a person from Balochistan,

08:31can become the Commander-in-Chief of Pakistan's Armed Forces in the war of 1965.

08:35If two people from Balochistan,

08:37can become the Prime Minister of Pakistan.

08:39Then this is proof,

08:41that the Baloch brothers and sisters,

08:43have achieved all the achievements,

08:45that any other citizen has achieved.

08:47But the narrative that has been made,

08:49we have to defeat it with hope,

08:51commitment and engagement.

08:53The political prong is very important in this.

08:55Absolutely.

08:57Syed Mohammad Ali Sahib, thank you very much for joining me in the program.

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