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In the second part of my American future tech tree analysis, I will be looking at the American attackers and bombers that are slated for future release, as well as discussing and analysing them.  Planes in this episode: Introduction: 00:00 A-20 B: 00:39 A-1 Skyraider (A-1H Skyraider Added in Battle Pass: Season IX, "Smell of Victory") A-20 C A-20 D A-20 K A-26 A A-26 B (Added in Update 1.71 "New E.R.A.") A-36 (Added in Update 1.51 "Cold Steel") AD-4 Skyraider (Added in Update 1.75 "La Résistance") AJ-1 B-18 Bolo (Added in Update 1.59 "Flaming Arrows") B-24 J B-29 Superfortress (Added in Update 1.47 "Big Guns") B-34 Lexington (Added in Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai") B-57 A (Added in Update 1.43) PB4Y-2 (Added in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica") PBJ-1 (Added in Update 1.41) SB2C-1C (Added in Update 1.51 "Cold Steel") SB2C-4 (Added in Update 1.53 "Firestorm") TBD Devestator (Added in Update 1.53 "Firestorm") Conclusion: 37:34  US Future Tech Tree: http://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/619  American Future Tech Tree Analysis (Fighters): https://youtu.be/s49zhWXlVJ0  Social Media ⬇️ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/toreno.bsky.social Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/Toreno4 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/toreno170 Mastodon: Toreno17@mastodon.social Threads: https://www.threads.net/@toreno170 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Toreno17 Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/toreno5/videos  Sources: WWII: The Directory of Weapons Weapons of World War II Wiki http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=91 http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail-page-2.asp?aircraft_id=186  Photo sources/citations:  A 20 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3A645th_Bombardment_Squadron_-_A-20_Havoc.jpg By United States Air Force [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons  A 26 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AA-26_Invader_over_Germany_in_1945.jpg  By unknown/U.S. Air Force photo [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons  A 36 http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_A-36_Apache  TBD Devestator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_TBD_Devastator   SB2C http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_SB2C_Helldiver  PBJ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3APBJ-1J_Mitchells_USMC.jpg  By USN (U.S. Navy Naval Aviation News March/April 1986 [1]) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons http://www.airpages.ru/eng/us/b25mod.shtml     Info  PB4Y-2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_PB4Y-2_Privateer  B 18 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_B-18_Bolo   B 34 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Ventura  B 24J http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3A90th_Bomb_Group_B-24J_1944.jpg By United States Army Air Force [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons  B29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-29_Superfortress  B57 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_B-57_Canberra   Game: War Thunder  ⬅️  #warthunder #usa #us #usaf #usaaf #aircraft #bomber #toreno

Transcript

00:00Hello everybody and welcome to the second part of my future American tech tree analysis.

00:05In this episode we'll be dealing with the attackers, army bombers and the navy bombers and torpedo bombers.

00:11Not as many aircraft to go through as with the fighters I don't think.

00:16So this should hopefully be a bit quicker to go through.

00:19This won't be the last episode, I'll be doing another episode on a summary of all of the tech trees and what I think should be added.

00:28But this episode I'll just be dealing with the aircraft I've already mentioned, so without further delay let's get started.

00:37Now the first aircraft we're going to be looking at are the A-20 variants added into the game, the B, C, D and K versions.

00:45Now the A-20B actually resembled the DB-7B, which was also known as the Boston Mark III in the RAF service.

00:55Because a lot of these also served with the RAF.

00:58Now only 999 of these aircraft were produced, 665 of them went to the Soviet Union.

01:04So not that many actually served the United States Army Air Force.

01:09I think the nose, I've got written here that it was slant stepped rather than slanted glazing in the nose.

01:17I can't really find much else information wise on this aircraft.

01:22I think it had the same armament as we have with the G version, although I could be wrong.

01:29Because I've also gotten written down that the 7.62mm machine guns were added in the nose of the C version.

01:37So I'm not entirely sure when the guns were added.

01:41The Havoc Mark I we have in game has the machine guns already, so I'm assuming it will come with the machine guns, but just in case it doesn't.

01:51Quickly moving on to the A-20C, which we've just sort of touched upon a little bit then.

01:57This went back to the slanted nose glass, unlike the A-20B which had the stepped.

02:08So obviously they were trying out different approaches with that.

02:12It had new engines, self-sealing fuel tanks, more armour, and it could carry a torpedo.

02:18I don't think the A-20G we have in game can do that, so obviously that makes it a lot more versatile than the existing A-20 variants.

02:29Not an awful lot else I can say about these two aircraft.

02:33Like I say, they don't seem all that different.

02:35But quickly moving on to the A-20D.

02:38I actually had trouble finding this, but I did some searching around on the internet.

02:43And it turns out this was a proposed high-altitude version.

02:47The intended power plant was turbo-supercharged white cyclone radial engines.

02:56Now this was cancelled before production, so I assume it would have had the same armament.

03:02Possibly it might not have had the bombs, it might have been used as a high-altitude fighter.

03:08They probably would have done maybe two variants, one with the bombs, one without.

03:12So this would be quite an interesting thing to have in game.

03:15Because in game it's sort of used as a low-altitude fast fighter.

03:23So I'm wondering what use this high-altitude version will have in the game.

03:28Lastly we have the A-20K.

03:31One of the main differences is that it's gone back to the glass nose.

03:35The A-20 we've got in game now doesn't actually have a glass nose.

03:39I probably should have mentioned that at the beginning.

03:42Other changes include, it's got a bombardier position in a different place.

03:49In the same position as on the A-20H.

03:52So maybe that will help protect them like certain gunners and pilots.

03:56I don't know if different positions were moved.

03:59I'm not sure if the bombardier can even be killed in the game at the moment.

04:03But we'll have to see.

04:05Also an improved power plant and improved armament capabilities and updated on-board equipment.

04:10Now I'm not sure what it means by improved armament.

04:13It doesn't particularly say what this improved armament is.

04:17Possibly, I'm guessing it will mean bigger bomb loads.

04:21But yeah, I can't really comment too much on that.

04:25So yeah, looking forward to the A-20D probably the most out of all of these.

04:32I mean, it would be good to see the lower tier variants.

04:36Yeah, it would definitely be good to have the A-20D.

04:40I think that would be quite an important one.

04:44Sort of one I'm looking forward to the most.

04:47If it spawns at bomber height, it could probably be used as a sort of improvised bomber hunter.

04:53Because obviously it's got quite a good armour.

04:55And if it's built for high altitude, it could probably do quite well at hunting down other bombers.

05:01So yeah, that would definitely be a good thing to have in game.

05:05So yeah, probably the A-20D I'm looking forward to the most.

05:08Probably tiering and battle rating wise.

05:11Lower tiers would obviously be lower than the A-20G.

05:15The A-20K would probably be a bit higher.

05:19I think the A-20D would probably be about the same.

05:22Possibly higher as well.

05:24But yeah, we'll have to sort of wait until it comes out in the game to see, I suppose.

05:28Now the next aircraft on our list is quite confusing for a number of reasons.

05:33The A-26, which was later re-designated the B-26, is often confused with another aircraft.

05:42The Martin B-26 Marauder.

05:45Because obviously they were both designated B-26s.

05:49And obviously there's a lot of confusion sometimes.

05:52I believe they're talking about the Douglas A-26 on the tech tree.

05:57Well, I wouldn't be surprised if they were talking about the B-26 Marauder.

06:01I'm pretty sure they're talking about the A-26 Invader.

06:05Very sorry, I've got that wrong.

06:07Which would make this whole part of the video a bit pointless.

06:10But the other confusion is what variants are being added.

06:14You're probably wondering what's the confusion.

06:17It says the A-26A and the A-26B.

06:20The thing is, there's only an A-26B listed here.

06:24The only A-26A I can find is a prototype night fighter with a crew of two.

06:30Which is an A-26A.

06:33And the prototype with dummy armament.

06:36I don't think they'll be adding the prototype in.

06:40The night fighter possibly.

06:42I'll deal with the A-26A, A-26B and the A-26C.

06:47Just to cover all the bases.

06:50The A-26A, like I said, a prototype night fighter with a crew of two.

06:54Now the armament of the A-26B, I believe, is up to 8 machine guns.

07:0150 caliber machine guns.

07:03So, probably would be using that sort of armament.

07:06Probably wouldn't be armed with bombs, if I'm honest.

07:09We've then got the A-26B, which could be armed with 6 to 8 machine guns.

07:15And possibly another 8 machine guns in 4 optional underwing pods.

07:22So that could boost firepower even more.

07:24Maybe something like the BF-109s, which can have cannons added.

07:29And it could carry up to 6,000 pounds or 2,700 kilograms worth of bombs.

07:34In the bomb bay and in underwing hardpoints externally.

07:39Could go about 355 miles an hour.

07:42And rate of climb of about 6.4 meters per second.

07:46So, very fast, well, quite fast.

07:49Not too good at climbing, I suppose.

07:52I'm not sure what's really a good benchmark for climbing.

07:56Lastly, we've got the A-26C.

07:58This is apparently different in that it had a glass nose.

08:01So a bit like the A-20 variants we were talking about earlier.

08:05And two 12.7 millimeter machine guns in the nose position.

08:10Probably, I think they'd be keeping the 6 to 8 .50 caliber machine guns that are already fitted.

08:16So, this would probably be more like a turret position.

08:19So, could add quite a lot to the firepower.

08:22My thoughts on these aircraft?

08:24Definitely very welcome additions to the game.

08:26Quite fast, definitely well armed.

08:30I've always enjoyed playing with the A-20.

08:33But I thought it was a bit of a shame there weren't more planes like it.

08:36To have the A-26 in the game would be very good.

08:39Probably a bit higher tier or battle rating than the A-20.

08:44The A-20 at the moment has a battle rating of 3.

08:47They actually changed the battle ratings today.

08:50So, they should be up to date and new.

08:54So, yeah, definitely welcome additions to the game.

08:57My apologies for the confusion on which variants being added.

09:00But, like I said, I can't find an A-26A other than the night fighter version.

09:05If I find any more information, I'll post it on here.

09:08If anyone else has information, feel free to post it in the comments and I'll try and add it in.

09:12But, yeah, definitely looking forward to this aircraft.

09:15Now, the next plane on our list is the A-36.

09:18Which was a ground attack dive bomber version of the B-51.

09:23It was armed with 6 .50 caliber machine guns and up to 454 kilograms of bombs on the underwing hardpoints.

09:33Now, it was quite a bit slower than the Mustang.

09:36The P-51D Mustang is listed as going 437 miles an hour in my book.

09:43Online, I've got the A-36 as 365.

09:47So, nearly a good 70-60 miles an hour slower.

09:52So, yeah, I don't think America really has proper dive bombers.

09:57Or has the SBD Dauntless as a dive bomber.

10:01It hasn't really got any army aircraft that can be used as dive bombers.

10:05So, it would be definitely a welcome addition to the game.

10:08These were actually withdrawn in 1944 from operational service.

10:13So, probably going to be a lower tier aircraft.

10:18If I had to guess, probably high tier 2.

10:25Possibly about tier 2, I'd say.

10:30I can't see it being any higher than that.

10:33If it goes any lower than that, like to tier 1, it would be in the same place as the Dauntless.

10:38You have a sort of overlapping roles there.

10:44So, probably a tier 2 aircraft on account of its armament.

10:48I don't think it has any rear gunners.

10:51No, it doesn't have any rear gunners.

10:53But yeah, this would be a good plane to have in the game.

10:56It would definitely be a good counterpart to the B-25s and A-20s.

11:01So yeah, definitely a good plane to have in the game.

11:04Hopefully they'll get it in game soon.

11:06Now, the next plane on our list is the A-1 Skyraider.

11:10As we can see here, Gaijin have written a little description.

11:13It was designed during World War 2 as a single seat, long range, torpedo dive bomber.

11:18In service from 1950 onwards.

11:23Armed with four 20mm cannons, up to 8,000 pounds of ordnance and 15 external hull points.

11:30First went into action from the Valley Forge on 3rd July 1950 and not retired until 1972.

11:39With the United States Navy, or US Armed Forces.

11:45And actually serving with the French Air Force until 1976.

11:50Now, we've also got the AED-4 listed up here.

11:53As far as I can tell, it's practically the same, except strengthened landing gear and improved radar.

11:59Obviously something that's not really going to make much difference in the game.

12:03As far as I can tell, it has roughly the same armament as the A-1 Skyraider.

12:09So, where would this go?

12:12Because it was introduced after the war.

12:14Probably a higher tier aircraft.

12:17Probably going to go somewhere...

12:20Let's quickly go to War Thunder.

12:22Probably going to be up here with the F-8F and the F-82, I'm guessing.

12:30Maybe a bit lower or a bit higher, but that's roughly where I would put it, personally.

12:35So yeah, definitely a good plane to have in the game.

12:38It's quite a lot of ordnance, so definitely shake things up a bit.

12:44To have an aircraft with so many bombs, if it gets all of the bombs, of course.

12:48But if it does get all the bombs and rockets, then yeah, that would be quite a major threat in the ground attack role.

12:56Now, for the next bit, we're just going to quickly go to the Navy bombers and torpedo bombers.

13:01We'll deal with the Army bombers last, but next plane on our list is the Douglas TBD Devastator.

13:07Now, this was a torpedo bomber that was quite obsolete by the time the war started.

13:15A lot of them were destroyed at the Battle of Midway, and they were withdrawn not long afterwards.

13:21Some of you may have played Battle of Stations Midway, you may recognise this aircraft.

13:27It was a very slow aircraft, only 205 miles per hour of max speed, and a rate of climb of only 3.7 metres a second.

13:36It could carry one torpedo, one 1,000lb bomb, two 500lb bombs, or twelve 100lb bombs.

13:43It had one 7.62mm machine gun in the rear cockpit, and I think one .50 calibre machine gun in the front of the aircraft.

13:52It might have been a 7.62mm machine gun, I can't quite remember.

13:59Probably a lower tier aircraft, I can't see this being any higher than the TBF that's already in the game.

14:07The TBF in game is a battle rating of 2.7.

14:11If I'm honest, I'd probably put this somewhere between the Kingfisher float planes, which are a battle rating of 1,

14:20and the SBD Dauntless, which is a battle rating of 2.

14:25So probably between 2 and 1, maybe 1.7, 1.5 I'd say.

14:32It's good that this plane has been added into the game, because for the lower tiers there isn't really much for taking down any enemy ships.

14:41Although I don't know if there are any enemy ships to deal with in the lower tiers between 1 and 2.

14:49Yeah, it's a good plane to add, definitely needed.

14:53Although like I said, don't expect miracles out of it, it's not that great a plane if I'm honest.

14:58But yeah, definitely a good plane to have in the game.

15:01Now the next plane on our list is the SB2C1C and the SB2C4.

15:06This is also known as the Helldiver. Apparently it wasn't all that popular with... well, anyone.

15:13I mean, maybe they're just exaggerated stories, but whenever I've read or heard about this aircraft it's usually something bad being said about it.

15:21Like, not as good as the Dauntless, despite the extra firepower and bigger bomb loads.

15:28There was also a bit of a scandal or some sort of dodgy goings-on.

15:32The Truman Committee investigated production of the Helldiver.

15:36I believe there were some sort of problems with the engines or they weren't being built properly.

15:41I'm not entirely sure of the whole story, but I'm quickly getting on to the variants being added.

15:47The SB2C1C, let me find it...

15:51It had two 20mm cannons and obviously a bit of a step up from the Dauntless, which only has the 12.7mm machine guns.

16:06And the SB2C4 had two 20mm cannons.

16:16Both aircraft I assume had the 7.62mm machine guns in the rear of the cockpit.

16:22I've got it listed as having a speed of 295mph and a climb rate of 549mph.

16:33Now, bomb load, 454kg under the wing.

16:38There's some 454kg internally, so pretty good bomb load.

16:43There's 1000lbs under the wing and internally.

16:47Now, where would this go tier-wise?

16:50Probably higher than the Avenger already in the game, but probably between the PBJs.

16:58Probably a low tier 3, high tier 2.

17:02PBJs a battle rating of 4, TBFs 2.7.

17:07Probably a battle rating of 3-something.

17:10I wouldn't know exactly what.

17:12It's a good plane to have in the game.

17:15I assume it will play out quite well.

17:19I mean, there's other planes in the game that didn't do that well in real life.

17:24Like mechanical wires or handling wires.

17:27But that do actually quite good in the game.

17:30Because I think the ones in the game are operated on the basis that there aren't any breakdowns or stuff like that.

17:37I mean, the Comet apparently wasn't that good in real life, but does quite well in the game.

17:43Before I get off track.

17:45So yeah, probably a battle rating of 3-something.

17:48Definitely a good plane to have in the game.

17:50Could also carry a torpedo, I should mention.

17:54From what I hear.

17:55So it could be used in a dual role like the B7A2 that the Japanese have.

17:59And yeah, just be a good plane to have in the game.

18:03Now the next plane on our list is the PBJ-1.

18:06Now, this is a bit confusing to me.

18:08Because I've been having a look through my books and online.

18:12There isn't actually a PB...

18:14All of our PBJ-1s, they always have a letter after them.

18:18And obviously this one doesn't.

18:20I did wonder if maybe the one was meant to be an I.

18:22But I couldn't find any PBJ-Is on here.

18:25So my sneaking suspicion is that perhaps they're committed to adding another PBJ in.

18:33But they don't know which one to add in.

18:35So I'm going to quickly go through all of the remaining PBJs they could add.

18:40Starting with the PBJ-1C.

18:42Which is similar to the B25C.

18:47Now the B25C was the improved version of the B25B.

18:51It was the first mass-produced version of the B25.

18:56Nose armament was increased.

18:59So it had the one fixed and one flexible .50 caliber machine guns.

19:03Like we have with the B25 in game already.

19:06Other than that, not an awful lot of difference.

19:09Obviously because it's a Navy version it had the airborne search radar.

19:13And an anti-submarine.

19:15And was using the anti-submarine role.

19:17Now of course we're not going to be getting submarines in the game.

19:21To my knowledge.

19:22So probably not going to be that version.

19:25We've then got the PBJ-1D based on the B25D.

19:31This is actually the same as the B25C.

19:34Just made in a different factory.

19:37But this had the .50 caliber machine gun in the tail.

19:43And in the beam gun positions.

19:45Like the B25H.

19:47But again used in an anti-submarine role.

19:50And fitted with airborne search radar.

19:53And lastly we have the PBJ-1G.

19:57Which is based on the B25G.

20:00Which had more armor and a greater fuel supply.

20:06Out of all of them I think we may end up just getting the PBJ-1G.

20:11Because the other ones are all more used in the anti-submarine role.

20:15And we don't have submarines.

20:16As far as I'm aware we're not getting submarines.

20:19So the PBJ-1G would make the most sense.

20:22I mean maybe there is just a PBJ-1.

20:24But I haven't been able to find one.

20:27So yeah probably going to be quite similar to the B25s and PBJ-1G.

20:38That we've already got in the game.

20:39So yeah it's good to have it in the game.

20:42But it doesn't seem like it would be making that much of a difference if I'm honest.

20:46I mean again good to have it in the game.

20:48But yeah it just seems to be padding out the PBJ line.

20:54Unless like I said there is a PBJ-1.

20:57In which case it may be something completely different.

20:59And I'll try and add information later on.

21:02Or even if you have information feel free to put it in the comments.

21:06And I'll try and add it in for you.

21:08Now the next plane on our list is the PB4Y2 Privateer.

21:12Which is a long range patrol bomber.

21:15Based on the B24 Liberator.

21:19It's armed with up to 12 .50 caliber machine guns in 6 turrets.

21:23And 5,800 kilograms of bombs, mines or torpedoes.

21:26Or 12,800 pounds if you use pounds.

21:31Now where would this go on the tech tree?

21:34Not entirely sure.

21:37It would probably be, well it's based on the B24.

21:41So it would probably be about a tier 4 navalised aircraft.

21:46Well not the PBJ line but the maritime aircraft line.

21:51It had a speed of 300 miles an hour.

21:55So how fast do the PBJs go?

21:58They go about 262 miles an hour.

22:01So faster than them.

22:03About the same speed as a B17.

22:06A bit faster than the B24 in game.

22:10So yeah probably about tier 4.

22:12Similar battle rating to the B24 and B17.

22:15They're both, B17G sorry.

22:17They're both about a battle rating of 6.

22:20Like I said they've just changed the battle ratings today.

22:23So yeah it would definitely be a good aircraft in the higher tiers.

22:27Especially if you get some torpedoes.

22:30Once you get to like a certain, once you get out of the lower tiers.

22:34You stop really getting torpedo carrying aircraft in the American tech tree.

22:39So yeah this would be a good addition for the American tech tree.

22:43Definitely a good plane to have in the game.

22:46Yeah definitely a good choice from Gaijin to put in the game.

22:53Now the next plane in our list and the last of the US Navy bombers and torpedo bombers.

23:00Yep there it is.

23:02It's the AJ-1 North American AJ Savage.

23:06Gaijin have done a little description of it.

23:09Now it was an attack bomber that was able to carry a nuclear weapon.

23:13We're obviously not going to get that in game.

23:15And was the largest aircraft carrier plane of that time.

23:18Apparently there was quite a bit of trouble with the aircraft carriers not being able to.

23:22Not that they weren't able to hold it but it was getting in the way of flight operations.

23:26Because it was such a huge aircraft.

23:28And it was capable of flying at 471 miles an hour.

23:32Now interestingly it had two piston engines.

23:35But it had a turbo jet engine in the fuselage.

23:38So it was sort of a hybrid aircraft I think.

23:41A bit like the FR Fireball which also used the piston engine and jet engine together.

23:48It did not have any defensive armament but could carry 12,000 pounds of bombs or 5,400 kilograms.

23:55Yeah it seems like a quite good aircraft.

24:00I'm not sure how the jet propeller combination is going to go in the game.

24:07I was hoping they'd put something like this.

24:10More specifically the FR Fireball.

24:13But they've done it with the AJ Savage instead.

24:15I'm wondering how they're going to do it.

24:17Does the jet engine come on when you go up to high throttle?

24:21Is it on all the time along with the propellers?

24:24Or does it come under boost?

24:27I'm not entirely sure.

24:29This would probably definitely be a higher tier aircraft.

24:32I mean if we come here.

24:35471 miles an hour.

24:39That's faster than the Bearcat.

24:42Almost as fast as the...

24:44Well about 50 miles slower than the Panther and the P-80.

24:48So probably between them two aircraft.

24:51Low tier 4, high tier 5.

24:54I mean high tier 4, low tier 5 sorry.

24:58Definitely a good addition to have in the game.

25:01It would definitely be an unusual aircraft.

25:03And yeah definitely a good choice to have in the game.

25:06And this next aircraft which looks a bit weird if I'm honest.

25:11Is the B-18 Volo.

25:13Now this was actually the winner of a competition between the B-17 Flying Fortress and the Martin Model 146.

25:21Now you're probably wondering how could this win in a competition against the B-17.

25:26Well the B-17 prototype crashed because it still had gust locks.

25:31Sort of to keep the control surfaces from moving while it's on the ground.

25:37Being moved by the wind.

25:38And they were still locked when it took off and it crashed.

25:41And that disqualified it from the competition.

25:44Now the B-17 was eventually put into production through a legal loophole.

25:49But for the beginning at least they had to go with the B-18 Volo.

25:53Which was also cheaper 58,500 compared to the 100,000 for the Model 229.

26:01Which was the original name for the B-17.

26:03Now the B-18 Volo from what I understand most of them were destroyed in the Pacific quite early on.

26:11Only very few of them survived.

26:14And well they were basically relegated to advantage submarine roles or transport duty.

26:20One of them actually sunk a U-boat.

26:22One of the first apparently in U-654 on the 22nd of August 1942 in the Caribbean.

26:28Now bomb load and armament wise it could carry 2,000 kilograms worth of bombs or 4,400.

26:37And it had three 7.62mm machine guns.

26:41And these machine guns were in the nose, dorsal and ventral gun turrets.

26:45So well let's find the speed as well just to complete it.

26:50Now at a top speed of 216 miles an hour this seems like a very slow plane.

26:58And honestly it doesn't seem like it will do that well.

27:01It's got a very weak armament, very slow.

27:04It's got an okay-ish bomb load I suppose.

27:08Honestly I see this definitely being a very low tier aircraft.

27:13Maybe just after the PBY or just before the PBY.

27:18I'm not entirely sure. The PBY has a fairly good bomb load.

27:23Something like 4,000 pounds worth of bombs.

27:26So that's already about the same as the B-18 Volo.

27:32So yeah, low tier 1, high tier 1, low tier 2.

27:38Probably quite a low battle rate.

27:42There's just no way it could survive.

27:44Probably between the PBY and the A-20 I'm guessing.

27:48Yeah it's a good aircraft to have because obviously we do need a few bombers in the lower tiers.

27:54Other than the PBY.

27:56It's a bit silly that we have to use naval aircraft in the bombing role.

28:00So yeah, definitely a good aircraft to add.

28:02But I just don't think it will do that well if I'm honest.

28:05I mean I may be wrong but based on the stats it doesn't look like it's that good an aircraft if I'm honest.

28:11Now the next aircraft we're dealing with is the B-34 Lexington.

28:16Also known as the Lockheed Ventura.

28:21Now this was a patrol bomber.

28:23Bomber and patrol aircraft that was used mainly by the US and the British and Commonwealth allies.

28:29Apparently it wasn't well that liked by the RAF.

28:32In fact there was one raid on Amsterdam where all 10 sent across to attack the target were destroyed.

28:42Well it was better than the bomber it replaced, the Hudson.

28:47But it was sort of phased out in favour of the Mosquito.

28:51Mosquito was a very good aircraft so not too surprising that happened.

28:56But quickly look at the stats.

28:58322 miles an hour max speed.

29:01Rate of climb of 15.4 metres a second which sounds pretty good.

29:05And it had four .50 calibre machine guns and two .30 calibre machine guns.

29:10And could carry one torpedo or 3,000 pound worth of bombs or 1,400 kilograms.

29:16Where would this aircraft be on the tech tree?

29:20I could possibly see this being a premium aircraft for the British as well because it was used by them.

29:26But quickly looking at War Thunder.

29:30Wondering where it could go.

29:32Probably I could see it going between maybe the A-20 or possibly the B-25 goes 276 miles an hour.

29:43This goes about 322.

29:49I could see this possibly going between the B-25, J-20 and the B-17.

29:54Sort of as an in between the medium and heavy bombers sort of thing.

30:01But yeah hopefully it would be an okay bomber.

30:05I mean it doesn't look awful but it doesn't look really excellent as well.

30:11Yeah I'm not sure what to make of this aircraft really.

30:14But I think it could have a fairly okay role between the B-17s and the B-25s.

30:21Sort of filling out that sort of area on the tech tree.

30:25Now the next aircraft on our list is the B-24J.

30:28Now this isn't too different to the B-24D that we've got in the game.

30:33The main difference is it has a turret on the front of the aircraft rather than the glazed nose.

30:39Other than that there's a few differences between the D and J.

30:44Like the gunner positions are offset.

30:47At the moment they're in the same place on each side.

30:54So it can get a bit complicated while firing and reloading.

30:58So one of the positions is moved forward and one is moved back.

31:01Just to give the gunners a bit more room so they don't get in each other's way during the battle.

31:06Other than that I don't think there was particularly any other changes.

31:10I think some of the turrets were changed around.

31:15Other than that I don't think there were many changes between the D and the J.

31:20I don't think there was any other differences on the J itself other than bomb sites and other minor changes that won't particularly affect us.

31:30Probably a bit higher tier than the B-24D.

31:34I think the B-24D was recently moved down in battle rating, I can't quite remember.

31:39So probably to make way for the B-24J if I had to take a guess.

31:44Yeah, good aircraft to have but it seems like it's just padding out the B-24 line again.

31:52Although with actual meaningful changes.

31:55Now this next aircraft on our list, the Boeing B-29 Superfortress.

32:00Probably one of my favourite aircraft from the war, well of all the aircraft in the war.

32:06It was armed with eight 12.7mm machine guns in the four turrets.

32:10Two on the top, two on the bottom.

32:12And three 12.7mm machine guns in the tail turret.

32:15Or two 12.7mm machine guns and a 20mm cannon.

32:19So very powerful armament.

32:22Had a top speed of 358mph.

32:25Could carry up to 20,000 pounds of bombs.

32:28Although we probably won't get anywhere near that in the actual game.

32:35It did very good in real life.

32:38It wasn't used against the Germans but against the Japanese.

32:41They were used in high altitude bombing raids out of range of Japanese aircraft and guns.

32:46But this was ineffective partly because of the jet stream.

32:50Which was sort of knocking their formations all over the place.

32:54Making it very inaccurate to drop their bombs.

32:56So they worked for low level firebombing raids.

32:58And eventually at the end of the war they dropped the, it was two B-29s that dropped the atomic bombs.

33:03On Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

33:06Now where would it fit in War Thunder?

33:09Well that's a bit of a problem.

33:12Because it served in World War 2 and Korea.

33:14In Korea against jets it was when it was taken out of service.

33:18Because it just couldn't deal with jets.

33:21Now in game, I don't know if Gaijin are going to do it.

33:24I don't know if they're going to class it as a World War 2 bomber.

33:27Which would mean a high tier 4, low tier 5.

33:31Or if they're going to class it as the World War 2 and Korean War bomber.

33:35Which case it's more likely to go against jets.

33:38Which could be a bit of a problem.

33:41I mean if it's classed as a World War 2 bomber, going against high tier prop aircraft would make sense.

33:48But against jets it wouldn't survive.

33:51So I'm not sure how they could do it with battle rating.

33:54I'm not that high of a rank in War Thunder.

33:57So I don't know how battle ratings really work at the higher tiers.

34:00But yeah, they need to do it in a way so it won't dominate matches.

34:05But it won't be dominated in matches by jets and the like.

34:11But yeah, other than that I'm definitely looking forward to this aircraft.

34:15Like I said, probably one of my favourite aircraft.

34:18Another important thing is the gunners.

34:21Before I forget, the guns are actually remote controlled.

34:24Except for the tail turrets.

34:26So I'm wondering how the gunners being knocked unconscious is going to work.

34:30Because the gunners are actually not at the gun positions at the turrets.

34:37So I'm wondering how that's going to work as well.

34:40I don't know if they'll make it so the turret gets hit.

34:42It just makes the gunner unconscious to represent the turret being knocked out.

34:46But yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Gaijin deals with this aircraft.

34:50Now for our last aircraft, some of you may recognise it.

34:53And you may also be confused by the markings of the United States Air Force.

34:58Well this is actually the Canberra bomber that was given to the Americans to produce under licence as the B-57.

35:06Now we're getting the B-57A, so an early variant.

35:11Speed-wise and stats-wise, probably similar to the Canberra but I'll read them out anyway.

35:17598 miles an hour, so it's max speed at 2,500 feet.

35:22Rate of climb, 31.4 metres a second, so very good climb and speed rate.

35:28And max speed, sorry.

35:30Now it's armed with four 20mm cannons.

35:33Or 2,000 kilograms worth of bombs in the bomb bay, including nuclear bombs.

35:38And 1,300 kilograms on the four external hardpoints, including unguided rockets.

35:44So 4,500 pounds in bomb bay, 2,800 pounds on external hardpoints.

35:51Now these were used for a long time.

35:53I think some of them were actually used in Vietnam, probably either by the South Vietnamese Air Force or the Americans.

36:00And three are actually still in use by NASA.

36:03Now this is an aircraft that had its first flight in 1953, so a very long-lived aircraft.

36:09Possibly longer-lived than the B-52, I can't remember when that was introduced.

36:13But about the same time, I think.

36:17So where would this go tiering?

36:19Probably it would be a high-tier aircraft.

36:21It has to go against jets, because it is a jet.

36:23There's no way a turboprop aircraft or lower-tier prop aircraft could deal with it.

36:29It's got a decent bomb load.

36:31It's got decent armament to protect itself.

36:34Well, not turret-wise, but the 20mm cannons.

36:40So yeah, high-tier aircraft, high battle rating.

36:44Will probably be quite good in ground strike missions.

36:50I mean, it can carry a lot more bombs than the Arado.

36:53So already it's going to be quite fast, extremely well-armed, large bomb load.

37:00I think this aircraft was actually ready for a while, but wasn't introduced because Skygen didn't have any way to deal with the aircraft.

37:09Like, to balance it out, because people wouldn't be able to deal with it.

37:14But now they've introduced higher-tier aircraft, and it's definitely good they're adding this in.

37:20I've definitely been looking forward to this aircraft, and still am looking forward to it.

37:24And yeah, probably one of the aircraft I'm looking forward to the most, other than maybe the B-29 on the American tech tree.

37:32So that brings us to the end of that episode on the American bombers and attackers, and torpedo bombers.

37:39What aircraft am I looking forward to the most out of the bombers?

37:42Definitely the B-29, no doubt about it.

37:46But the B-57A, I'm also looking forward to that as well.

37:49Interesting to see how the AJ-1 will work out in-game.

37:53And the Sky Raiders, the A-36 and the A-26.

37:57They'll definitely be good additions to the game as well.

38:01I will be doing one more episode, just a general summary of all the tech trees.

38:06Well, not a summary, but sort of giving my thoughts on what planes should have been added.

38:11Maybe giving ideas for the Italian and French tech trees as well.

38:16I was a bit disappointed there was no extra planes for the Italians or the French.

38:21The French I think are only represented through premium planes at the moment.

38:25So I'll definitely be doing an episode on them as well.

38:29Well, in the same episode as the next one.

38:31So, yeah, thank you for watching.

38:34Please leave comments and feedback in the comments section.

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38:41And, well, thank you for watching and I'll see you next time.

War Thunder American Future Tech Tree Analysis - Attackers and Bombers

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