Climate at the Debate: Muddy Details, Clear Records

TIME

The presumptive presidential nominees exchanged barbs on climate change at Thursday’s debate. As with much of the debate, the details were hard to follow, but the candidates’ records are clear.

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00:00So, I want absolutely immaculate, clean water, and I want absolutely clean air, and we had

00:07it.

00:08We had H2O.

00:09We had the best numbers ever, and we were using all forms of energy, all forms, everything.

00:16And yet, during my four years, I had the best environmental numbers ever, and my top environmental

00:23people gave me that statistic just before I walked on the stage, actually.

00:28I don't know where the hell he's been, the idea that anything he said is true.

00:34I passed the most extensive climate change legislation in history, in history.

00:41We find ourselves, and by the way, black colleges, I came up with $15 billion for HBCUs, Historic

00:47Black Universities and Colleges, because they don't have the kind of contributors that they

00:53have to build these laboratories and the like.

00:57Any black student is capable in college of doing what any white student can do.

01:00They just don't have the money, but now they'll be able to get those jobs in high tech.

01:04We're in a situation where the idea that he is claiming to have done something that had

01:11the cleanest water, the cleanest water, he hadn't done a damn thing with the environment.

01:16He pulled out of the Paris Peace Accord, Climate Accord.

01:19I immediately joined it, because if we reach 1.5 degrees Celsius at any one point, there's

01:25no way back.

01:26The only existential threat to humanity is climate change, and he didn't do a damn thing

01:30about it.

01:31He wants to undo all that I've done.

01:34The Paris Accord was going to cost us a trillion dollars, and China nothing, and Russia nothing,

01:39and India nothing.

01:41It was a ripoff of the United States, and I ended it because I didn't want to waste

01:46that money, because they treat us horribly.

01:48We were the only ones.

01:49It was costing us money.

01:50Nobody else was paying into it, and it was a disaster.

01:54The idea is that we, in fact, we were the only ones of consequence who were not members

02:02of the Paris Accord.

02:03How can we do anything if the United States can't get this pollution under control?

02:08One of the largest polluters in the world, number one.

02:11We're making significant progress.

02:13By 2035, we will have cut pollution in half.

02:16We have made significant progress, and we're continuing to make progress.

02:21We set up a climate corps for thousands of young people who will learn how to deal with

02:25climate, just like the Peace Corps, and we're moving in directions that are going to significantly

02:30change the elements of cause of pollution, but the idea that he claims that he has the

02:36biggest heart up here and he's really concerned about pollution and about climate, I've not

02:43seen any indication of that.

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