00:00Hello and welcome to Outlook. My name is Rakhi Bose and I am with Chandrashekhar Azad Ravan.
00:05He has just returned to Delhi as an MP. He is Nageena's new MP.
00:09Congratulations, sir. How do you feel? You have come to Delhi this time.
00:14Before this, you had come as a protestor and a protestor. You had come as a revolutionary.
00:18This time, you have come as an MP in Delhi. Do you feel anything different?
00:22Nothing is different. I had responsibilities then and I have responsibilities today as well.
00:26There was a time when I had a responsibility on my shoulders.
00:33When my name was mentioned in the Times magazine that I am the only one in India who is one of the rising leaders.
00:39So, the Indian media made fun of me according to its character.
00:43But we had faith in ourselves and we proved it.
00:47Where all the parties, rich people, 100 years old parties, 50,000 years old parties,
00:52MPs, MLAs, resources, money, wealth,
00:58despite everything, they could not compete with us.
01:02And we won with a strong victory of more than 1.5 lakh votes.
01:05This is the situation that if someone works honestly and the public supports him,
01:10then no one can stop him from succeeding.
01:12In Uttar Pradesh, there have been a lot of shifts in the Delhi courts.
01:16This time, the Socialist Party has got votes.
01:18BSP has not got votes.
01:19In fact, the vote that was going on with BJP has not gone.
01:22Why do you think this shift has come?
01:24And what does the Dalit voter want to say about this?
01:28Look, the first thing is that the Dalit society is a very conscious society.
01:32And not just the Dalit, there has been a big shift in the people of the previous society.
01:35And it was not because of them, but because of the people of the India Alliance.
01:38Because they have been fighting the elections for a long time.
01:40For the past one and a half years, we have seen a very strong struggle among the people.
01:45Whether it is the issue of education, or the issue of need, or the issue of roaster,
01:49or the issue of SSCGD, or the issue of reservation,
01:53or the issue of caste discrimination.
01:55The Ajaad Samaj Party Bheem Army worked together to develop ideological power.
02:01The people of the India Alliance will be with us.
02:03This discussion went on for a long time.
02:05Then they came to us last time and did not support us.
02:08But we still did not get scared.
02:10We fought the first phase of the election.
02:12After that, we helped the opposition in stopping the BJP in all the seats.
02:18They may not have supported us,
02:20but we have fulfilled our responsibility for the protection of the constitution,
02:24and for the protection of democracy.
02:26And the result of that is that there was a very large-scale shift.
02:28This was not done on its own.
02:30The opposition should thank the people of the Ajaad Samaj Party Bheem Army,
02:34the people of our organization,
02:36whose help our organization did,
02:38and because of which the result of the BJP.
02:40And the people of the Alliance themselves agree that they did not believe that so many votes would come.
02:45Do you think this PDA has been successful according to their strategy?
02:49We will find out in the coming elections.
02:51How successful they are, how much people trust them,
02:53we will find out in the coming elections.
02:55I will tell you again,
02:57that the last time, in which Yadav, Patel, Khuswaj, Morya, Sakke,
03:03Aupal, Prajapati, Kassab, Saini,
03:05this is a society.
03:06Now this is an aware society.
03:08With their ideology, Buddha, Kabir, Nanak, Satgur Ravidas, Bhagwan Valmiki,
03:13their great men, Jyotiba Phule,
03:15Sahuji Maharaj, Okrambedkar,
03:17Mahamana Ram Subharma,
03:19Babu Jagadev Prasad Khuswaj, Jannay Kapoor,
03:22these are great men,
03:23Sant Rambi, Prajapati, Babu Sridhar Chaudhary,
03:25they are standing with their ideology.
03:27That is the impact.
03:28That is the reason,
03:29that the power of ideology is being generated in them.
03:31So they are not becoming religious slaves.
03:33That is why they are using their vote correctly.
03:35The reason is that the BJP had to face a big defeat in many places.
03:40Even the Prime Minister of the country won with very few votes.
03:43Many of his ministers won with more votes than him.
03:45You will see how big a change this is.
03:47So even religious places did not work this time.
03:50And the public voted on their issues.
03:52Unemployment,
03:53inflation,
03:54caste system,
03:55reservation,
03:56all the basic things,
03:57they voted on them.
03:58And the result is that
03:59this time when the Prime Minister of the country came to take an oath,
04:02before that,
04:03when he was talking to his people in the parliament,
04:05he was saluting the Indian constitution.
04:07So is a mandal 2.0 or a new mandal being formed?
04:10And if it is being formed,
04:11then what do you think is its leadership at a national level?
04:14The public is leading, not the opposition.
04:16The public is leading.
04:17The public voted for me.
04:18The public voted for them.
04:19The public is the opposition.
04:20And when the public is the opposition,
04:22there is a witness in India's very old history
04:25that big governments have fallen.
04:26This government was also close to it.
04:28If the alliance had shown a little bit of integrity,
04:30we would have fulfilled our responsibility.
04:32But if they had also fulfilled their responsibility
04:34and had not stopped us,
04:35then the result would have been something else.
04:36The alliance would have won 300,000 seats
04:38and the BJP would have remained below 200 seats.
04:41The BJP line would have died.
04:43There was a time when the entire Dalit community came together
04:46behind Kanchiram.
04:47After that, we saw that the leadership at a national level
04:49came from Mayawati.
04:51Do you think that now you are seeing yourself in a place
04:54where you can consolidate leadership at a national level?
04:58I will be able to consolidate.
05:00I believe in this.
05:01Because there is a very big organization with us.
05:03The Ajaad Samaj Party.
05:05But, Mr. Mayawati Kanchiram is our leader.
05:07She is our leader.
05:08She has worked a lot for the society.
05:11I cannot be like her.
05:12But I am struggling to fulfill her incomplete work.
05:16And I think that we will also succeed in this.
05:20Because the coming time, the society has become sensible.
05:23Take this as an example,
05:24I have also got a very big vote from the employees.
05:28And the conversations I have had with the employees
05:30have helped me a lot.
05:31They have understood my situation and voted for the alliance.
05:35This is a big help.
05:36When education moves on the path of society,
05:38it creates new opportunities.
05:40We are seeing these new opportunities.
05:42And I believe that it will increase in the future.
05:44It will not decrease.
05:45As an MP for Nagina,
05:47or for your area,
05:48what do you think is the first thing to do?
05:50First of all, I will try that in Nagina,
05:53there is a big problem of unemployment.
05:57In Maharashtra, Delhi, Punjab, Haryana,
06:00our people have to go from there.
06:01So I will try to build an industrial area here.
06:04And from there, employment is created.
06:07Along with that, there is Ganga there.
06:09A very big business of tourism can be connected with Ganga.
06:12So I will try to focus the government on that too.
06:16So that the people there can get employment easily.
06:18Secondly, there is no higher centre there.
06:21I will try to build a hospital like AIMS.
06:24So that the people of our area,
06:27when they are sick or have problems,
06:29can get the benefit of every centre.
06:30A lot of people know this.
06:31There is a problem of flood there.
06:33And the entire crop of farmers is destroyed by the flood.
06:35In the name of tourism, it is just a joke.
06:37The whole area, the road to Ganga from Uttarakhand.
06:41So I will try.
06:42Because it is a tourist attraction of Ganga.
06:44So I will try.
06:45For the problem of flood,
06:46the current government that has been formed,
06:48I will keep reminding them again and again.
06:51I will raise my question to them.
06:52So that they understand the pain of the farmers.
06:54And the damage caused by the flood.
06:56So that there is a permanent solution to this problem.
06:59This is a very big problem.
07:01Along with that, there is a problem of farmers.
07:03Which is a problem that has arisen in our area.
07:04Which has taken a lot of attention.
07:05There is a problem of level order.
07:07And there are all kinds of problems.
07:10There is a problem of cleaners in my area.
07:12So they have a bad job.
07:14They don't have a permanent job.
07:15They have to work on the contract.
07:17And whenever they want, people fire them.
07:19So I will try to get them permanent jobs.
07:21And in any way,
07:23I can bring happiness in their lives.
07:25I can get them a job.
07:27They get an old pension of Rs. 500.
07:29By increasing it, they get Rs. 5000.
07:31There are all kinds of things.
07:33I want to open an inter-college and a degree college for my sisters.
07:35My belief is that a university should be built there.
07:39A sports university should be built there.
07:40In rural areas.
07:41There is no shortage.
07:42But along with that,
07:43there should be a very good college-university.
07:46So that my sisters get a chance to get a good education.
07:49And my brothers too.
07:50And my agenda is to implement equal education all over the country.
07:53Whether it's a farmer's son or a laborer's son.
07:55Whether it's an industrialist's son.
07:56Everyone should get equal education and free education.
07:59So that they can stand on their own two feet.
08:01Education opens doors for you.
08:03And I will try to do all kinds of things.
08:05I will continue to do it.
08:07And at the national level,
08:08I will raise my voice against racism in the name of religion.
08:11For women's empowerment.
08:13And I will work very hard on women's empowerment.
08:16I will meet the officials and workers there.
08:18My sisters and daughters should be welcome there.
08:20If there is any violence in the name of caste or religion.
08:22And I would like to make it clear through your interview.
08:24That I will fight against any criminal of any caste or religion.
08:29If he commits a crime, I will help him get punished.
08:32And I will try to get the help of good officials and workers.
08:36And I will help them.
08:38Just one last question.
08:40We have seen that from time to time,
08:42Dalit Bahujan leadership comes.
08:44Young leaders come.
08:45They get support.
08:46Like Jignesh Mewani.
08:47He becomes a politician.
08:49But his impact is lost at a national level.
08:52So you as a new leader.
08:54As a front runner of this movement.
08:57What do you think?
08:59What should the leadership do?
09:01As you said yourself a while ago.
09:03There is 16% vote in Delhi.
09:05Which is not getting at this point.
09:07So what should we do?
09:08We are at a national level.
09:10We can't bring it to one side.
09:12I would like to touch you.
09:14You should study.
09:152023 Vidhan Sabha Elections of Madhya Pradesh.
09:17You will realize that in Madhya Pradesh.
09:19We lost by very few votes.
09:21Similarly, if you see us in Rajasthan.
09:23Between 5000, 7000, 11000.
09:26We lost many seats.
09:28We were on the 3rd number of 10-12 seats.
09:31We were on the 2nd number of many seats.
09:33And along with that.
09:36We are losing seats by very few margins.
09:38I am telling you this.
09:40Bheem Army's organization.
09:42Which is developing as Azaad Samaj Party.
09:44They are in many states.
09:46This is an example.
09:48That our movement is a national movement.
09:50We don't have a state movement.
09:52We have proven this.
09:54We had a new symbol.
09:56We got 74,000 votes in Rajasthan.
09:58In some places, 2 MLAs are made in 74,000.
10:01That's why I am telling you this.
10:03Azaad Samaj Party is doing a very good job.
10:05Bheem Army's youth.
10:07Missionary people.
10:09They are working very honestly.
10:11We are getting their support.
10:13And the way our educated workers.
10:15And the old missionaries.
10:17Who supported us.
10:19Our religious gurus.
10:21Those who believe in Bhagwan Valmiki.
10:23Those who believe in Ravidasji.
10:25Those who believe in Guru Nanak Devji.
10:27The Agarni of their Panth.
10:29They supported us.
10:31I thank all of them.
10:33With their support.
10:35Unity.
10:37And a new Samikand.
10:39Congress Alliance.
10:41Baspa.
10:43Nota.
10:45Bhajpati.
10:47We will try to make that Samikand.
10:49All over the country.
10:51A broad Samikand.
10:53We will move this movement.
10:55One of the biggest reasons.
10:57Is Nayak Pooja.
10:59We will make Nayak Pooja our movement.
11:01I am an ordinary party worker.
11:03I will work as an ordinary worker.
11:05And I will work hard.
11:07To fight the upcoming elections.
11:09We believe in this formula.
11:11We will succeed with this.
11:13We will see ASP ahead.
11:15Very soon.
11:17You will see ASP in Uttarakhand.
11:19Assembly and UP.
11:21Thank you.
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