00:00 ASEAN Women in Cyber Awards and launching of Cyber Analyst Certification Courses.
00:05 Our discussion is with Assistant Secretary Mary Rose Magsaysay,
00:10 Deputy Executive Director of Cyber Crime Investigation and Coordinating Center or CICC.
00:16 Asic Magsaysay, good afternoon and welcome to Bagoong Pilipinas.
00:21 Thank you very much for inviting us.
00:23 First of all, what is this ASEAN Women in Cyber Awards
00:27 and what is the importance and purpose of this award?
00:31 This award, which is what we call "Gawad Hiraya",
00:37 is a result of our participation in ASEAN Women
00:45 as representative of the ACWO, ASEAN Confederation of Women Organization.
00:53 Women in every country have their own prime organizations
00:58 and this is led by the wives of prime ministers, presidents, and female ministers.
01:05 A few months ago, we showed them that the Philippines is willing to train women in cyber
01:13 which was started by CICC a few years ago.
01:16 It is important to have cyber analysts because the field of cyber is different.
01:22 Now, we told them in this event, since the ACWO chairperson this year
01:29 is the National Council of Women of the Philippines.
01:32 The Philippines is now the head of ASEAN for women.
01:36 So, I said, let's give them a chance to taste the love of the Filipinos
01:41 and let's teach them how to be cyber analysts.
01:48 Okay. So, what are the activities that we can expect from the ASEAN Women in Cyber Awards?
01:55 And when will this be held in the country?
01:59 This will be held on March 8, which is the International Women's Day of the United Nations.
02:05 This will be held at the National Cyber Crime Hub of DICT-CICC
02:12 because our chairperson is the DICT, Secretary Ivan Uy.
02:16 So, we're going to hold it there face to face and our co-equivalent countries
02:20 that will be receiving the top women in cyber in their respective countries will be online.
02:27 Ah, okay.
02:29 So, aside from the Cyber Crime Investigation and Coordinating Center,
02:33 what are the agencies that are helping you organize this event
02:37 that you said is part of the DICT, aside from them?
02:40 Besides the DICT, which is our chair, we have the Department of Budget and Management.
02:45 Of course, with the Secretary Pangandaman and Usec Sasa.
02:50 And of course, because she is the head in technology in the DBM.
02:56 And then of course, the Commission on Women, DCW.
03:01 Okay.
03:02 This is also the launching of Cyber Analyst Certification Courses.
03:07 Can you tell us more details about this, ma'am?
03:10 The certification courses that we have for cyber will be for the private sector and the government.
03:19 So, we will onboard our sisters in the ASEAN countries
03:25 in our learning management system that was in-house made by the Philippine government in the DICT-CICC.
03:34 And that is very good for them as government because when we onboard them,
03:39 they don't see their private information.
03:42 What they see there is alphanumeric.
03:44 So, when you go in, you're not Ina, you're not Katrina, you're not Luella.
03:52 What you see there is an alphanumeric key.
03:55 So, there is no breach.
03:57 And then the nice thing about it is it gives us a camaraderie amongst ASEAN
04:02 that we are sharing what we need to help them for.
04:07 From the available courses, ma'am, what are the priorities that are being set for women
04:14 and from which sectors are the invited attendees for these courses?
04:19 And is this part of Women's Month?
04:23 Yes, it is.
04:24 Actually, not Women's Month but more of the International Women's Day.
04:29 So, that was initiated by the United Nations.
04:31 That was on March 8, remember?
04:33 And I encourage everybody in the Philippine government, the women.
04:37 They say that women are good investigators.
04:41 We have a third eye.
04:44 We have sixth sense.
04:46 Women's intuition.
04:48 Of course, right?
04:50 So, we hone parity in gender.
04:54 And women see differently.
04:56 So, it gives the Filipinos a chance, especially the women, to showcase their expertise to the whole world.
05:06 All right.
05:07 It's also nice to highlight that women are involved in tech or cyber security.
05:14 Those anti-hacking.
05:16 Usually, it's the adults who do it.
05:22 But now, there are more women.
05:23 Are you saying?
05:24 But if you look at the scenario right now, ma'am, how many women are involved in cyber security?
05:41 You will be surprised.
05:43 Whenever there is a raid, like the Pasay raid, and the Shoreline Bayang raid or something raid,
05:53 it was composed from our agency of 60% women.
05:59 I lead the raid.
06:01 The only certified information security officer of the Philippine government is a woman.
06:06 That's me.
06:07 Oh, wow. Congratulations.
06:09 So, you will see that we are moving forward.
06:14 We are moving forward and we are leading.
06:16 Women are finishers.
06:20 When you cook, you can't just stop in the middle.
06:23 There's no food, right?
06:24 So, generally, from birth, we are reared to be finishers.
06:29 We are the best public administrators, the women.
06:32 So, is there a particular qualification that can be obtained or attended in these courses?
06:39 Or this will be available and open for all?
06:42 Okay.
06:42 You know the best?
06:44 You will be surprised.
06:45 What I'm looking for are people who are graduates of finance.
06:49 Okay.
06:51 They are the best analysts.
06:52 The business grads, business grads, econ grads, even those in the social sciences,
07:00 are very good candidates for being analysts.
07:03 I see.
07:04 And we need that both in private and in government.
07:08 So, there are courses in particular that you are looking for.
07:12 Yes.
07:12 To become a cyber analyst.
07:15 They have to try.
07:16 But even if that's not your course, what is your interest?
07:20 Interest.
07:21 Actually, for me, interest plays a big part.
07:23 Those who are techie, they are so easy to train.
07:29 That's the nicest thing.
07:30 Techie and the one who can change minds.
07:32 Of course, women.
07:34 We have a question from our media partners, Joviland Rita of GMA News Online.
07:42 Her question is, the following hacking incidents in government sites and social media accounts,
07:47 and recently, this is in PCG, I don't know if they got their FB page back.
07:54 Did they get it back?
07:55 Because yesterday when we interviewed PCG, they are still figuring out who did it.
08:01 And it's the third attempt for the Philippine Coast Guard.
08:04 Can we know the government efforts to curb hacking and fortify the defense of our sites?
08:12 And what they are targeting is our government agencies.
08:16 They are strong weapons, right?
08:17 Yes.
08:18 You'll be surprised.
08:19 They don't just release it to the public, but all government sites are always a prey for cyber crime.
08:26 They are really trying it.
08:28 Because usually, the hackers, they want to show off their skills.
08:31 So they try to, like David and Goliath.
08:35 So they try to hit on that.
08:36 It's their pride.
08:37 Sometimes it is done by one, sometimes it is done by a group, sometimes it is done by a bigger organization.
08:46 So the Philippine government is not sleeping.
08:50 In fact, 24/7, DICT, CICC, the Cyber Security Bureau is in charge.
08:56 We have a national cert in charge of all this.
08:59 And once they see that there's a vector of attack, they give it to the CICC.
09:04 And we really look for it.
09:05 So you'll see, right?
09:07 The sad thing is, it won't go on the news if it's already recovered.
09:11 Usually, what's shown on the news is the bad news.
09:16 The controversial.
09:17 But we do, CICC, we solve our crimes 100%.
09:23 So all the agencies, we're agnostic.
09:25 Any agency that needs help, they give it to the DICT or to us.
09:31 We have a hotline, which is 1326.
09:34 It is awarded by the DAP.
09:37 And we are now going through an ISO 27001 for our cybercrime response monitoring system.
09:46 So that's made by the Philippine government, not a vendor.
09:52 So feel free to call 1326.
09:55 That's our hotline.
09:56 Yes.
09:57 And also for the training, that is free.
09:59 So we give that free for our ASEAN women.
10:03 And then locally, we're opening that, of course, for the Philippines.
10:06 Pilipinas is important.
10:08 Both for the industry people, for the stakeholders, for the academe.
10:13 We want everybody to be on the same page.
10:16 So ma'am, the next question is from Jovelan Rita of GMA News Online.
10:20 What are the recent actions, directives, and communications within the government in connection to this?
10:26 Okay.
10:26 So with regards to the hacking and the breaches, we get it within 30 minutes, actually.
10:33 We don't just update.
10:36 Yeah, actually.
10:37 Actually, yes.
10:38 I told you we are 24/7, we're 365.
10:41 We get it in the middle of the night.
10:42 We pass it on to our able analysts in the CICC.
10:49 And everybody's usually on top of things.
10:52 And that's the sad part.
10:54 I don't show it when it's sold.
10:55 [Laughs]
10:57 That's true.
10:57 There should be a follow-up.
10:58 But why are we prone?
11:01 Our government agencies are being hacked one after another.
11:04 Yeah, it's not just us.
11:05 It's not just us.
11:06 In fact, the CICC is the lead in the ADO Committee on Cybercrime,
11:11 where the first treaty for cybercrime is being created in the United Nations,
11:15 being led by the UNODC.
11:18 It's that when you sit there, which I do,
11:20 you'll see that all countries are being hacked full-time, big-time,
11:25 because it's cheaper to do that than to do an actual crime itself,
11:29 to go to the agency, to steal something.
11:32 So although technology is an enabler, we are keeping abreast.
11:37 In fact, on the capacity of the Philippine government,
11:41 we are acquiring tools that will be able to decouple.
11:47 At the end of the day, it's all fintech crimes, generally.
11:53 So for you to go into fintech crimes, there are specific tools.
11:57 And we are in the midst of, maybe a week from now,
12:03 we have that capacity to decouple.
12:04 We'll know where the money went, where it came from,
12:07 even if it's already mixed in an exchange.
12:12 And when you trace who the perpetrator is,
12:15 where these cybercrimes or hacking started,
12:19 what country?
12:21 There are many countries, but the most...
12:23 Maybe it's in the Philippines, too.
12:25 Do you remember the love bug back then?
12:27 Actually, the love bug.
12:28 Okay, before we go there.
12:30 But for...
12:32 You know, that's a good question.
12:34 I think I should try to find out, and you should invite me again.
12:37 So don't you think...
12:39 Because for all we know, we're just next door.
12:43 The Filipinos are also good at hacking.
12:44 Yes, the Filipinos are really good at it.
12:46 As a last question, please send a message to our fellow Filipinos,
12:50 especially to the women who are watching us now.
12:54 Okay, for our women, you're very lucky that you have somebody in cyber who's a woman.
13:00 I'm second in command.
13:01 But generally, our Yusek Alex Ramos is kind.
13:06 He really does everything for women.
13:11 Go, everything.
13:13 So feel free to look at our sites.
13:16 We have a Facebook site, we have an Instagram, we have an ex...
13:20 Meta na pala, atsaka ex, 'no?
13:22 Yes.
13:23 Hindi pala Facebook.
13:23 But then you look at our webpage, and you will see there what is available for your industry,
13:30 as well as our government interagency.
13:33 Remember, to the whole Philippines, the CICCS initiated 100 bilaterals.
13:39 That means we have relationships with 100 countries, and we're the only country who has done that,
13:45 so that there's parity of skill sets for the Filipinos in technology and in cyber.
13:50 So para magamit natin yan, magkonsorsyong kayo, maliliit ng mga startups natin,
13:55 and we can tender abroad.
13:58 Okay.
13:59 Maraming salamat po sa inyong oras, Assistant Secretary Mary Rose Magsaysay,
14:03 Deputy Executive Director ng CICC.
14:06 Thank you so much.
14:07 Maraming salamat.
14:08 And you'll buy it for the actresses.
14:10 Of course!
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