00:00 Well, the unions, in my view, don't need to be on strike.
00:02 They're impacting my constituents in North East Derbyshire
00:04 right now who want to get to work,
00:06 and they shouldn't be doing that.
00:07 I don't know why they're striking.
00:09 I wish they weren't.
00:09 This is a very longstanding dispute.
00:11 People just want to get on with getting to work,
00:13 and the unions should just stop and call the strike on.
00:16 Is £65,000 enough for driving trains?
00:19 Yes.
00:21 So you're asking them to go back to work.
00:24 You can actually, I'm guessing, make them go back to work,
00:27 or certainly their employers can, because you
00:29 change the laws.
00:30 So why are those not being implemented?
00:32 What would you be saying to the rail companies this morning?
00:35 Well, I hope they'll use them in the future.
00:37 I'm not close to it, as you say, but as a housing minister,
00:39 rather than a rail minister.
00:40 But what I understand is that the rail companies have said
00:44 they may use them in the future.
00:45 I think that would be--
00:46 Shouldn't they be using them now?
00:47 Arguably, I hope that they would.
00:49 And I think the prime minister said he's disappointed
00:51 that they're not using them.
00:52 It's ultimately for the rail operators to decide.
00:55 But those laws are there across a number of sectors
00:58 to make sure that when strikes happen,
01:00 that people are not inconvenienced
01:02 more than they need to be.
01:03 And ultimately, none of this would be necessary if the unions
01:06 didn't call unnecessary strikes.
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