00:00 This song has stayed with me because it's been like a guiding light of a little nugget
00:04 of hope at times when it's felt hopeless.
00:06 It helped me through a time in my life where I needed it, and I've seen it do that for
00:10 others.
00:10 I was on the train going to see Jordan Mackay.
00:19 He was on the chorus.
00:20 He produced it.
00:21 Usually when I'm on the way to the studio, I'm picking up any piece of inspiration to
00:24 talk about.
00:25 When I got to the studio, it just kind of like fell out, I guess.
00:28 I was sat up on the train, staring out the window at the rain.
00:34 I heard this little lady must have felt the pain.
00:36 Asked her mom if the blazing sun will ever shine again.
00:39 There's a little girl sat in front of me and she was talking to her mom, just saying like,
00:43 "Where's the sun gone?"
00:44 You know?
00:45 Kids are so immediate and present in their life that they don't see yesterday or tomorrow,
00:49 right?
00:50 So she kind of couldn't believe that the sun would ever come back because it's so rainy
00:53 in the UK.
00:54 In the next line, I'm saying, "I feel exactly the same way."
00:56 You know, we have completely different perspectives on the same thing.
00:58 Hers is like a beautiful innocence and mine is kind of like a weighted skepticism, you
01:03 know?
01:04 And those two things are existing two seats apart.
01:06 It was like the mom was speaking to me.
01:18 In the moment, I was looking out the window thinking, "Fuck."
01:20 Do you know what I mean?
01:21 It's raining again and I'm tired and I'm sad a little bit.
01:25 You know, like, when is it going to get easier?
01:28 Kind of felt like, yes, she was saying it to her daughter, but she was also saying to
01:30 me like, "We need this."
01:32 You know?
01:33 Like, without rain, shit doesn't grow.
01:36 I was listening to a lot of Roots maneuver when I was making this album.
01:51 And this song, "Dreamy Days," he has some lyrics which is, "We're walking down the primrose
01:56 road to everything and nothing.
01:58 So can you picture past the honeymoon where you beat me with the wooden spoon?
02:02 Now I'm sleeping on the couch.
02:03 Got me thinking, 'Whose house is this?'"
02:04 It goes off and off.
02:05 I'm kind of paying homage to, like, "You can see me, but the Roots is Roots maneuver."
02:20 I love the bus, man.
02:21 It takes ages.
02:22 It smells bad.
02:23 A lot of kids was getting robbed on the bus.
02:24 I love the train.
02:25 The train's quick, efficient.
02:26 I love the train.
02:27 One day my friend Mikey bought me this book of his called "Jerusalem."
02:42 And I loved it.
02:43 And I was just, yeah, reading this book on the train.
02:46 And these guys sat next to me, were kind of looking at me funny, trying to talk to me
02:49 about religion and asking me, "I should go back to where I'm from?"
02:52 And I was trying to explain, "This isn't a Bible."
02:54 So yeah, it was kind of funny.
02:55 I had these two polar opposite interactions at the same time on the same train.
02:59 All of us are sat there on this train.
03:14 You know, this douchebag guy here, this beautiful girl, and myself.
03:17 And then all of us just stopped talking.
03:18 All of us stopped worrying.
03:20 Because the thing that we're worried about never coming back, comes back.
03:22 Yeah, that's it.
03:23 It's just a thank you.
03:24 That section is a thank you to the son.
03:25 When I wrote this, my girlfriend wasn't pregnant.
03:47 There was no kids on the horizon.
03:48 I was just a young man.
03:50 Free and easy.
03:51 So this is kind of like a re-imagining of the original lyrics, right?
03:55 That changed because of touring.
03:57 Things changed.
03:58 He is strong.
04:00 He is telling me to run.
04:01 But not run away.
04:03 Run alongside.
04:04 And yeah, I'm trying to find a sum of money to keep my family together like everybody
04:10 is.
04:11 Everybody who's trying to provide.
04:12 I'm proud to say, and scared to say, that my son is as intelligent as my girlfriend
04:16 is.
04:17 I'm in trouble.
04:18 I think with friends of mine, artists that I know and ones that I love that I don't know,
04:24 always talk about their big songs, like the ones that have done the best for them.
04:27 They hate them, you know?
04:28 And so I feel very lucky that maybe my biggest song, or one of my biggest songs, is one that
04:33 I still really love and I'm proud of.
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