00:00 What message did you bring to the people of Pakistan? What was the urgency for Mr. Shabaz Sharif?
00:04 There are two aspects. One is obvious. If you have to go back within two days after a private matter, it just shows and signals towards the fact that there will be an important matter that cannot be shared, which needs to be discussed to such an extent.
00:25 And there is a sense of urgency that you cannot say that I have just come, now give me a week to rest. So, obviously, that matter is very important, which they had to discuss.
00:38 I am sure, there has been development. There are many stakeholders here. It is not just about PMLN. So, in terms of that, in terms of our statement, all those aspects are very important.
00:55 Because we believe in one thing and we want to repeat it again and again that the Pakistan of 2017, how it was removed by doing a conspiracy, by doing a plan, how it was stopped the journey of development, that 2.5% food inflation was not tolerated, 50% is ready now.
01:19 So, there should be something about it that who were the people responsible. You will also say that you were not doing right at that time, your performance was not right.
01:31 So, everything will come out. But the way the judges behaved, the way you see the role of General Faiz Hamid, what was it? So, obviously, if you will sabotage it, if it is repeated again and again, then who will learn the lesson?
01:51 Tomorrow, someone will get up again and say that the Prime Minister's notification is rejected and rejected also by capital letter. So, it cannot be that a simple government has come with such a heavy mandate and it should be stopped again and again.
02:07 Is it a lesson to be learnt or not that you made a protest in 2013 and you know who were the characters behind it.
02:16 Then it did not end, Dawn Leaks came, then Dawn Leaks was happening, then Panama came.
02:21 And after that, when disqualification will happen, then you know who were the characters in it, that yes, disqualified and also ordered NAB to file cases against Mian Nawaz and then in 6 to 8 months of it, the decision was also made.
02:36 And Justice Ijaz-ul-Ahsan who was in that 5 member bench, he became the monitoring judge. I mean, conflict of interest is a concept that how can the judge of the session court below give a decision against the judge of the Supreme Court.
02:49 So, something or the other, I cannot say what we want to do about it, but at least, at least, this question should be raised in front of the public and it should be repeated again and again.
03:01 And we are ready for any kind of debate that what was our fault, where were we wrong in 2017 or 16 or 15 and so on and so forth.
03:09 Sir, I don't understand you people. By the way, if Faizabad Dharna case will be opened for Amal Dharamat, then both General Bajwa and General Faiz might be in trouble.
03:17 But General Bajwa and General Faiz have been declared as national criminals by Rana Sanaullah and then they have also accepted that we had given an extension to Bajwa sir under the strategy.
03:26 Sir, the interesting thing is that you people came for 16 months, made a deal and gave an extension under the strategy, you got the government.
03:32 While leaving, Shabba Shari Sahib saluted and thanked you. And now when he has retired and left, then the big man is saying that he wants a settlement.
03:40 What lesson have you learnt, Mr. Zubair? The generals are coming to the front lines of the future Chief Justice's settlement.
03:46 You people came for 16 months with a deal.
03:48 You can call it a deal, but it is also possible that they have also felt their mistake. I don't know, I must have said in front of you also, in many interviews when there was a PTI government,
03:59 I always said that if they remove the ladder of establishment, then this government will fall from Dharam. That is what we wanted.
04:07 Imran Khan is on record after leaving the government that we used to ask for the board in the assembly from the agencies.
04:14 Now two people are coming to blame for that. Imran Khan is also coming to blame for what he used to ask for.
04:19 And the people who were going to give, are also coming to blame for it or not.
04:22 So the moment they decided, the moment they decided, General Faiz Hamid has left ISI, then the process of disintegration of PTI had begun.
04:34 Sir, then you people are again coming to the shoulders of the establishment, the ladder on which they were sitting.
04:41 First you pulled the government and now they are pulling the ladder and coming to the government themselves.
04:46 Bilawal Bhutto Zardari cries every day for the playing field.
04:50 We did not want to mess with the establishment, nor did we want to do it before. It was made to look like as if we want to mess.
04:58 It has always been said that Nawaz Sharif did not make a deal with any chief.
05:03 It is absolutely correct. We used to counter question which prime minister has made a deal with which chief.
05:08 Did he make a deal with the NAJW? Imran Khan had a one page theory, but he did not make a deal with him.
05:15 So you cannot blame Nawaz Sharif for this.
05:19 But yes, one thing is that we have to learn a lesson from this.
05:25 That we should try and resolve this conflict between PINTI and Islamabad as much as possible in a very serious way.
05:32 Where there is their mistake, they should accept it in the past and where there is their mistake, they should tell them that such governments cannot work.
05:39 If you want to benefit the people of Pakistan, then there should be a civilian government and a civilian government.
05:46 On the basis of which you have taken a vote from the people and you are committed to perform to people.
05:54 So if it is a matter of relations with India, for example, then it is not possible that we say that we understand that relations with neighbours are extremely important.
06:04 So that it will be an economic benefit for the people of Pakistan.
06:09 And after that we close that book.
06:12 And there should be a hostile environment at the border, at the eastern and western.
06:17 That no one else wants.
06:20 You saw how much blame was put on Mian Nawaz Sharif that he invited Modi to the mehendi.
06:26 A personal relationship has to be built up.
06:29 In 1999, he called Wajib Bhai, who was a BJP Prime Minister, which has always remained hostile towards Pakistan.
06:39 What a big breakthrough it was that he came here, went to Minar-e-Pakistan, which is a symbol of Pakistan.
06:46 And what he wrote there and General Parvez Mircharraf sabotaged it.
06:52 So our hearts are burnt.
06:54 Some people cross the red line and talk.
06:57 You will make us cry.
06:58 And which we do agree that we have to be very careful about it.
07:02 But obviously we have to reflect on the past to make a bright future.
07:09 Indeed, Mr. Mohammad Zubair, thank you very much.
07:11 You heard the most important conversation.
