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This documentary explores the phenomenon of reported sightings of strange flying objects and extraterrestrial life. It delves into the history of the UFO phenomenon, exploring some of the earliest recorded sightings and how they have been perceived over time, through the eyes of experts who have studied the subject for many years, as well as with people who have had personal experiences with strange lights in the sky. I Want to Believe 2 is a captivating exploration of one of the most fascinating and mysterious subjects of our time.
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00:00Beginning in 2017, there's been renewed interest in the whole subject of UFOs,
00:24although they have been renamed by the government UAPs.
00:28We got to figure out what is going on.
00:34I view it as a mystery.
00:39It's time to trust the witnesses.
00:44I don't know what they are.
00:47I know there's a lot more than I say.
00:50So this is all coming out soon, I think.
00:55And we should be afraid.
00:59You know the old saying, I want to believe.
01:01That's me.
01:02UFOs, or unidentified flying objects, are objects in the sky that cannot be identified by the observer.
01:10UAP, unidentified aerial phenomenon, is a more recent term that is used in a similar way to UFO.
01:19This term is considered more neutral and less associated with the extraterrestrial explanations.
01:26I think the whole UAP thing is kind of hilarious.
01:29UFO was a term that was coined by Edward J. Ruppelt in 1952.
01:34He was the head of Project Blue Book, which is the Air Force investigation into UFOs.
01:39He coined it because he didn't want it to call them flying saucers.
01:43The reason why he didn't want to call them flying saucers is because there was too much of a cultural connotation linking it to aliens.
01:52And he was like, no, I'm just studying weird phenomenon in the sky as a scientist.
01:57I'm not saying they're aliens.
01:59I'm not saying they're little green men.
02:00So he wanted to get rid of the cultural baggage associated with terms.
02:04So he said, flying saucer is now a UFO.
02:07From flying saucer, you get, you know, this idea of a structured metal craft, a flying saucer.
02:13To UFO, unidentified flying object, very vague.
02:16Doesn't have any of that connotation attached to it.
02:19Which, I mean, I can understand why he did that.
02:22He was actually just trying to change the conversation around the subject.
02:26But nowadays, they're calling them UAP for the same reason.
02:31Because they want to disentangle it from the idea of aliens.
02:36In my opinion, ten years down the line, UAP will also become synonymous with aliens.
02:41And so it's kind of like, what's the point?
02:44Just call them UFOs.
02:46Gorgeous night.
02:47Have another ship going over the top of the house.
02:50Right now.
02:59Got really bright a second ago.
03:02Well, I think one of the things that people should really think about is early on stories.
03:09And that's something that I've thought about and investigated myself personally.
03:13And one in particular that stand out to most is go back into African American history when you think about slavery.
03:20Now, there was a song and it was called Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, Come and Take Me Home.
03:26And if you start doing the research about that, you'll know it was an old slave song when they were out in the fields.
03:32But it was based upon a UFO.
03:34And the sighting of Swing Low, Come Down, Sweet Chariot, and Take Me Home.
03:40And then the other parts of that song was, I looked out over to Jordan, What Did I See? Angels Coming For Me.
03:46Because the history of UFOs over water is still prominent today.
03:51And so all of those come back into a great history when it comes down to that phenomenon.
03:57You know, the more research you do, and that's probably a good question for people to just do research and not a field investigator like me.
04:05But I do know that Columbus, in his diary, you know, when they were traveling on the three ships, he actually saw a light come out of the ocean.
04:17And that's in Columbus's diary.
04:19So we can go back to 1492 if you want.
04:22And then, of course, you have, you know, the Roswell instead of 1947.
04:26But a week before that, you know, there was a bunch of just an armada of UFOs that were seen, you know, over Mount Rainier.
04:36And the word flying saucer came from that.
04:40You know, one of the reporters, you know, was trying to describe what Kenneth Arnold had seen.
04:47And then, of course, that would be late June and then early July of 1947.
04:53Here you have Roswell.
04:55Roswell, 1947, July 2nd, is when the world changed.
05:01I mean, you have to remember that right around that same time was when Kenneth Arnold saw a fleet of what he called flying saucers in, you know, Washington State.
05:12And that was just like a few days before.
05:16And then you've got the Roswell crash.
05:19That's a huge one.
05:21And I think that's that should be a convincing subject for anybody who really looks into it.
05:25Just past the surface of it.
05:27Mostly because, and for the same reason that I find the Remington Forest case interesting, is there is a moment of, hey, we saw UFOs.
05:37And then within 24 hours to 48 hours, the people in charge said, oh, no, no, no.
05:41That wasn't a UFO.
05:43No, no, no.
05:45That was something else.
05:46Why did they say it was a UFO in the first place?
05:49Why would they release anything that said that we saw a flying saucer or we found wreckage?
05:56And then within 24 hours backpedal and change their story.
06:00There was credible witnesses, plenty of documented sighting, even physical evidence in the case of Roswell.
06:10And the people that were there innocently just reported it as they saw it.
06:16And then within a certain amount of time, the higher ups backpedaled that story.
06:20People like Stanton Friedman and others have done a deep dive and spoke to many of the original witnesses.
06:30For myself, I'm close friends with the Marcel family.
06:35Denise Marcel actually was, she worked for me as a field, worked with me as a field investigator.
06:41Of course, their grandfather was the first official on the debris field.
06:46And it was apparently, this was the one that was closest to the Roswell Air Base.
06:51Apparently, when this UFO hit, and some say that it was possibly radar, a radar system that brought it down.
06:59That it had some effect on the craft.
07:03There are apparently bodies at the original craft site, which was Corona, New Mexico, closer to the border there.
07:11And they say that it hit so hard that the habitat, the life habitat that the beings were actually in,
07:22that crashed there and the rest of the craft went back up in the air.
07:26And what they found in Roswell was this, what they called memory metal, which was very, very light, almost like tin foil.
07:35But you would crumple it up, and it would come back, and it would go back to its original shape, like it had an electrostatic charge of some kind.
07:46And with that, you have memory metal as a term.
07:51I know that Jesse Marcel Sr., that they shot a gun at this stuff, and it had no effect on it.
07:58They hit it with sledgehammers.
08:00They couldn't figure out what this material was.
08:03And so Jesse filled, this was at the Mac Brazel Ranch, where the debris field was a square mile across, and it fanned out.
08:14And I've heard that the pieces of memory metal seemed to be moving in a breeze that wasn't there, like they were trying to go back into the original shape, which is very strange.
08:29He went and filled his car trunk up with some of this stuff.
08:33And they found some I-beams with strange hieroglyphics inside of the I-beams.
08:39You could only see them if you held it up to light, and then it would be like this iridescent purple color.
08:45So he had his trunk filled with this stuff.
08:48He was going to take it back to the Roswell Air Base, but he decided to go home first,
08:53because he felt like this was something that he wanted his son to see it, and he wanted his wife to see it.
08:59He knew that this was not a weather balloon.
09:02He knew his weather balloons from his spaceships.
09:06So he took it home, and Jesse Jr. got to handle it and see it.
09:10That was Denise's father.
09:12Then, of course, he took it to the base, and they flew that to Wright-Patterson Air Base.
09:19That's where they would fly, like when we acquired a Japanese Zero during World War II.
09:24That's where they flew that, you know, so they could reverse engineer and see how the thing worked.
09:30And that's apparently where the Roswell materials ended up.
09:34Some say White Sands, New Mexico.
09:38But I've heard Wright-Patterson, and that's probably where it ended up.
09:43And, of course, then they made Jesse Sr. pose with a...
09:49You can see the photograph, and he looks embarrassed.
09:53He's like, look at the camera going, you've got to be kidding me.
09:56You've got to remember, this guy was a head of security for our only atomic air base.
10:02That was it.
10:03The Roswell Air Base is where they sent the Enola Gay from, which ended World War II.
10:09He was head of security.
10:11The man was highly, highly respected, but they expected him to say, on record, that he couldn't tell the difference between a simple weather balloon and a spaceship.
10:23They need to make that right someday.
10:25I know the Marcel family is hoping that someday that the government, the Pentagon, that they're going to come forward and say, you know what, we were trying to protect people from this, but this really happened.
10:37And Jesse Marcel was a hero, like, you know, like Neil Armstrong.
10:43He should be in the history books.
10:45Instead, they made him look foolish.
10:48There's photographs and a lot of people that were involved.
10:51Years later, once they were out of the military and done with things, flat out said, no, but that second report wasn't the right thing.
10:59I wasn't holding a weather balloon.
11:01That wasn't aluminum foil.
11:02That was something else.
11:04I had to say that.
11:05And some of the people involved with the Reynolds from forest sightings say the same thing.
11:10The officer didn't talk about touching the UFO or having some sort of communication or anything the night of.
11:16Well, if you look at investigations and look at interviews with those guys, they did say something.
11:22And it was only later that it was blacked out and wiped from the record and a second statement was given.
11:29And I think when you start to see those things, you realize something's going on.
11:33If it was nothing, that much trouble wouldn't be involved.
11:38They wouldn't be going to that much work to cover up something or make a story for it.
11:43That was probably one of my main focuses when I first started doing UFO investigations was because I lived in California at the time.
11:51And Roswell was kind of easy access for me to.
11:54It's one of those big events that happened in U.S. history in UFOlogy.
11:59And it was within my reach.
12:00You know, I would visit Roswell and I would talk, you know, talk to some of the actual people that lived in 1947.
12:08So Glenn Dennis, who was the mortician back in 1947 and Walter Haught, who released, was the charge of doing press release for Roswell Army Air Force Base or Walker Base.
12:19They were running the museum, the International UFO Museum in Roswell.
12:24And I had been there so many times that they started to recognize me.
12:28And then Glenn Dennis started to recognize me.
12:30After a period of time, he says, hey Chuck, this is about time I give you the coordinates to where the debris site is.
12:39I said, you have the coordinates to the debris site, to the actual site where Mac Brazel saw all that debris in 47?
12:47He says, yeah.
12:48Well, I have coordinates to the BLM marker there, but I'll tell you, it's only a hundred or so yards from BLM marker.
12:56I said, well, yeah, I want them.
12:59So he gave me the coordinates.
13:01My sister and I jumped on the Jeep Wrangler.
13:03You know, we're looking at two and a half, three hours away from Roswell because where the debris site is, it's closer to Corona, New Mexico.
13:11I remember we were on an old ranch road and the GPS would go that way.
13:16And I said, well, I'm in a Jeep.
13:18I'm going to go across the desert.
13:20And we did.
13:21And we found the BLM marker.
13:22And then I found the place where he described, you know, the contour, the way the land was.
13:28And somewhere I have a picture of me back then with my little metal detector out in the middle of the desert looking for UFO wreckage.
13:38And it was probably one of the most exciting things that happened to me pertaining to Roswell, actually able to go there for the very first time.
13:46Now, since then, because I've done so many investigations with Roswell, I've actually been on a couple of archeology digs at the debris site.
13:55And the first archeology dig I was on, I actually found a piece of metal.
14:02So it was pretty cool.
14:03I think if you look beyond the surface of some of these bigger stories, you find them intriguing enough that they're more believable, I think, than not.
14:12Roswell, there was absolutely a very clear cover up.
14:17Things were backpedaled.
14:18Things were hidden.
14:19Things were put away in almost a sloppy manner, like a very obvious manner that, oh, oops, we we didn't mean to do that.
14:27Whether or not, say with Roswell, there's bodies or there's a full UFO somewhere in a deep underground bunker, maybe in Colorado.
14:37Can't say for sure about that, except for, you know, hearsay, but I think there's definitely something there.
14:44I think something crashed.
14:45There was wreckage of some kind.
14:46When we start trying to figure out how is the government is being involved or what are they doing about these UFOs?
14:58Yeah.
14:59You know, it's interesting.
15:001947, after Roswell, the same year, the Air Force was created, the NSA was created, the CIA was created.
15:08There was also National Disinformation Act of 1947, where basically the government could lie to the American people as long as they gave you a little truth.
15:20Okay.
15:21And that's what they still are doing.
15:24Basically, they gave you a little truth and a lot of untruth.
15:27And, of course, that all started, well, it started from what I believe in 1947 after the Roswell incident, but I'm sure it went through the whole Cold War, too, of course.
15:37First of all, we have to now make the determination that the government feels that these things are a threat to national security.
15:45And no wonder, because of the technology.
15:48And so, therefore, I think that's part of why we got the secrecy from the government side.
15:54But what are they actually doing?
15:56Well, now they're trying to put in programs to actually say, okay, we're now going to go out and observe these UAPs.
16:04We're now going to investigate all along.
16:07They've been doing this all along.
16:08It's not nothing new since the 1940s.
16:11They've always had evidence.
16:13But I think they're trying to get more money, number one, because money is going to do this thing.
16:19And so, therefore, they have to now change the narrative, put it out to the public, where for 60 years, you know, they've cried wolf or saying, no, it doesn't exist.
16:30And for us in ufology, we've done that.
16:33We don't trust the government.
16:35They're not.
16:36Now the government is saying, okay, UFOs are real or UAPs are real.
16:40And now we're trying to echo that.
16:42And people are like, no, no.
16:43Y'all have told us for 60 years.
16:45Don't believe them.
16:46And I think they know that they know they stay one step ahead.
16:49But they're trying to really get to a point because now they can't hide the budgets.
16:56They can't hide the fact that they have a space force.
16:59What's the purpose of all that?
17:01So now we have to create the enemy behind it.
17:07I mean, it could easily be disinformation.
17:09They could be releasing this stuff just to sort of, you know, have us, you know, look over here while we do this.
17:15And certainly the government and the military have done that for years.
17:20There's been plenty of times where they've let the public think it was UFOs when, you know, it turned out to be spy planes, turned out to be stealth fighters, turned out to be a stealth bomber, turned out to be, you know, test craft.
17:34Let's think about the purpose of the government when it comes down to information about what's happening or misinformation.
17:41And we have to look at the procedure to protect the secret itself.
17:47In some cases, you're going to get them to disseminate a little bit of stuff, you know, just to, you know, get our thirst, just to get the public's thirst.
17:56But when it comes down to stories like Richard Doty, all of these things, they got to protect the secret and how they're going to do that is misinformation.
18:06It's going to be their procedure because at this point, the information is out there.
18:11Now, how do we know it down?
18:14How do we make this person feels that this is not the real stuff?
18:20And if you go back to history, they already tried it with Project Blue Book, so they know it works.
18:24They did it with the Rozo in New Mexico.
18:27Oh, now it's a weather balloon.
18:29And we accepted it, most of the community.
18:32So they know misinformation is the bedrock of this.
18:35And it just depends on whatever narrative they want to use.
18:38And they seem to use the same ones.
18:41And misinformation is a key ingredient to guard the secret.
18:47I personally feel like they're going in baby steps to actually letting us know what's happening.
18:53Letting us know what they know.
18:55It is the U.S. government.
18:56They're never going to tell us everything.
18:58I think that's a pipe dream.
19:01But I feel like this is baby steps to letting us in a little bit more.
19:05Yes, there's information that's being hidden from us, not only from our government, but from other investigators too.
19:13You know, they find out stuff and they feel, I mean, stuff that I kind of know I'm reluctant to tell everything about
19:22because it could scare the hell out of you and I don't want to do that.
19:25And a lot of the UFO evidence is actually anecdotal.
19:28People call me up.
19:29I got a couple of phone calls today from people who've seen things that they don't understand.
19:33They get out their cell phones and, you know, they photograph it and they'll send me the photos or the videos or whatever they have.
19:38You know, there are between 8,000 and 10,000 such reports every year that are actually reported.
19:43I'm sure there are five times as many that aren't reported.
19:46So people see things in the sky all the time.
19:49Is California a hot spot?
19:52Well, it is a hot spot.
19:54I mean, we were in the Malibu area where, you know, there's been a lot of sightings.
19:58And, of course, I wanted to go down to the San Diego area where there's still a lot of sightings.
20:03And recently, you know, the sightings off of destroyers, off of the CV carriers, Tic Tacs and stuff.
20:13So that's another place that's active.
20:17I actually contracted for a microchip company, a semiconductor company in San Diego.
20:25So for a couple of years on and off.
20:28And so I go down there and I talk to the people, you know, and check out and see if there's any sightings and stuff.
20:33It's kind of fun.
20:34I think that the Tic Tac event that happened, I think that that's what opened up disclosure that we're enjoying right now.
20:48It was on the front page of the New York Times.
20:52The military themselves said, we can't explain it.
20:56Yes, this happened.
20:57I'm very good friends with Kevin Day, who is the strike force commander on the radar deck that day on the USS Princeton.
21:08I think that it's the it's our Roswell, except this time the government isn't hiding everything.
21:14You know, this time it's actually it got out there and it changed.
21:20It changed the world.
21:22Tic Tacs have been around forever.
21:24I've been investigating Tic Tacs for a long time.
21:27And I've been talking to military people who've seen Tic Tacs.
21:31That's nothing new for me.
21:33What's new, though, is for our pilots to come out publicly with this information.
21:41And that is way cool.
21:43This is why the ridicule has gone down.
21:47You know, I mean, there's still ridicule out there.
21:50If you say you've been abducted or you've seen some UFO or something, but it's so far less than it used to be.
21:57I mean, I got to watch that.
21:59It's almost like a fuse that just went out.
22:02And it went out because of that New York Times article in 2017.
22:08The Tic Tac was a very, very real thing.
22:11And we continually get sightings from the same area.
22:16Really good sightings.
22:17I mean, I've had pilots, boat captains, and all kinds of people that have seen similar things out there.
22:24The most impressive thing about the Tic Tac was that this thing moved at Mach 18.
22:3118 times the speed of sound.
22:34And it went that fast, but it didn't create one single sonic boom.
22:40And that's impossible.
22:41I mean, scientifically, as we know science, there should have been 18 sonic booms.
22:50I think it was doing 90 degree turns.
22:53It was playing cat and mouse with a squadron of jets that they finally sent out to intercept.
22:59I mean, at first they thought that the radar was going wonky.
23:03But after a week of this, they knew that the radar systems were working perfectly.
23:09And these things were coming down from low Earth orbit to sea level and then shooting back up.
23:16They saw this on the radar for like five days.
23:20And they finally sent the squadron of planes out there.
23:23And the rest, of course, is history.
23:27There's a myth that the government may be instrumental in creating these Tic Tacs to really get a public awareness, to really get the push behind it through Congress to say, OK, we have a threat that we need to do this.
23:42But if you really look at and for me, it was it was I think so at first, because when you listen to the audio, especially of the Tic Tac video and the excitement of the pilots.
23:56Oh, go. Wow. Look at that.
23:59But then it all changed.
24:01And there was an interview that was done with Commander Fravor.
24:05And this was on 60 Minutes.
24:08And you look at his eyes.
24:10Look at his face.
24:11He's disturbed.
24:12He saw something that he'd never seen before.
24:15He saw something that was not conventional for a pilot.
24:20And I think that's what it is.
24:22The military do not want the public know that our top gun fighters are serious fighters that are out there could have some type of fear or something in that air that commands a little better technology.
24:35Well, we know that there's those observables, transmedium technology.
24:39We know that it has, you know, cloaks.
24:43It can cloak.
24:44And all of these things that we don't have that technology and we should be afraid.
24:48My personal feeling is that the government has been in contact for decades.
24:53They've had proof of this and maybe even have direct contact.
24:56Maybe they still do.
24:57And they're doing this in an effort to sort of soft pitch the idea to us.
25:04Get us more comfortable with the idea that maybe these things do exist.
25:10Maybe it's okay.
25:12Maybe it's not scary.
25:14Because I know for a fact if the government just came out tomorrow and said, hey, by the way, we've been in talks with an alien species from another planet.
25:21And we have been for years.
25:23I think a large percentage of the society would freak out.
25:26Fortunately, now, you know, it's 2022.
25:29It's a softer subject for people.
25:32More and more people believe now than they did 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 40 years ago.
25:37It's an acceptable subject.
25:39It used to be a thing where if you were into UFOs or any of this stuff, it was almost embarrassing.
25:44You didn't really want people to know that was your hobby.
25:47It could get you fired.
25:48It could lose friends.
25:49You know, there was a lot of repercussion to something silly like that.
25:52It's not that silly now.
25:54People realize it's like maybe that's a thing.
25:57It's not embarrassing anymore.
25:58So it's okay to talk about it.
26:00And I think that's what the government's doing.
26:03They're saying, well, you're okay with this now.
26:06Here's some footage that we just happened to find.
26:10And we don't know what it is, but here's this.
26:13I think they know what it is.
26:15What amazes me is that they show the same video for like the past five years going,
26:19oh, this is new information.
26:21Yeah, it's insane because you've got, like, especially with our NASA, which never a straight answer.
26:27They show amazing technology out there with 4K and 8K and technology where everything's zoomed in
26:34and you can see things from miles and miles away, thousands of miles away.
26:38It's such clarity.
26:39But when it comes down to a UFO, you've got the worst camera, fisheye lens view you'll have on there.
26:44All kind of speckled colors.
26:47You're like, oh, what is that?
26:49They do that with like a tic-tac-toe.
26:51They'll show you something from a black and white or infrared camera, yet they have views from all around the world for years now
26:58of high-def visions of all these different ships that have been out there for a long time.
27:04Why don't they show us?
27:06They don't want us to know about that.
27:07They're keeping that technology themselves.
27:09First of all, NASA has been taking billions of dollars every single year, you know,
27:12to actually use it toward technology to look for ETs, which they've already had contact with ETs since the 60s.
27:21Are we really gaining any technology from some of these encounters?
27:27Now, of course, we do know that the secret is the secret, so they won't really tell us.
27:32But one of the major things was anti-gravity.
27:35We all remember that that was the biggest thing because we know these spacecraft did not use propulsion that our system used.
27:43So anti-gravity has always been out there.
27:46It has always been one of their main test subjects.
27:49And it goes all the way back to World War II when Hitler and the rest of them was using or had been known to start that program
27:56when one of them were in Werm and the Germans came over to NASA.
27:59So that was probably one of the biggest things.
28:02And since then, anything after that has been like, now, OK, our technologies have changed.
28:07We've got planes flying faster, supersonic speeds.
28:11We have different type of weapons now.
28:13We have nuclear capabilities.
28:16But when it comes down to transmedium, which is the biggest threat of it all.
28:22And this is when you have something that can come from space, air and water, back water and space.
28:29And we have nothing that can do that.
28:32And this is the most alarming part of technology that persists when it comes down to national security.
28:37And this is what we're trying to figure out.
28:40How do they have something that can hit the water with the forces that it has, which will dismantle anything that crashes,
28:48go into the water, travel just as fast, come back out and then go to space all at the same time.
28:56For us, we would have to go dock.
28:58We have to go get ready for a space rocket and all these things.
29:01And they can do it instantaneously.
29:03Well, I think there's a couple of reasons.
29:07There's a couple of theories.
29:09One is that they're checking up on our technology, keeping tabs on our development and our evolution, so to speak.
29:17Seeing what we are, where we're at, what we can and can't do.
29:20There's that theory.
29:21The other theory is that they know where we're at and they don't like it.
29:25We're a dangerous species with very dangerous weapons and they want to keep tabs on us for that reason.
29:31Other people think that it's malevolent, that they're checking because they want to take over or invade or whatever.
29:40There's a few different reasons that could be.
29:42Personally, I think they're just checking us out.
29:45Just like when you go to the zoo and you go see the animals, you know,
29:49or you go to the park and you see a duck.
29:52Well, you want to give the duck some bread or come over and see what that duck's doing.
29:55You know, or there's a dog in the neighborhood.
29:57Maybe you want to pet that dog, but you want to make sure that dog's not going to bite you.
30:01You still investigate the dog.
30:02You still go over and have a look at it and see what they do.
30:04Has he got a collar on?
30:05What's he doing?
30:06I tend to think that's more like what they're doing.
30:09That they're just keeping tabs.
30:11They're checking on us.
30:12So when you think about the military side of things, you know, I've investigated stories.
30:18In fact, I had a conversation with Bob Salas, and he is the minute man that was the captain
30:25over the Maelstrom Air Force Base, where the aliens actually came in and turned off our
30:31nuclear weapons.
30:32He was in the silo at the time.
30:34And of course, for him and anybody else, it was a serious situation.
30:39And you think about something disarming our missiles.
30:43But let's think about this for a minute.
30:45Were they really trying to send a message?
30:47Starting launch sequences or shutting down electronics and things like that.
30:52I don't know that that is necessarily being done on purpose.
30:55I feel like that's probably more likely interference.
31:00Something not jiving with their technology and with ours.
31:04Or maybe it is.
31:05Maybe they're just saying, hey, can we do this?
31:08Let's see if we can mess with their stuff.
31:11Or maybe they're saying, hey, we can mess with your stuff.
31:15Here's how we're going to do it.
31:17Don't mess with us.
31:18Don't bother us.
31:19This is your most fierce arsenal and we can just turn it off.
31:23And so what about these nuclear weapons now?
31:26But it does take a different turn, though.
31:28When you think about people saying an invasion and what would happen and what would happen on Earth.
31:34Now, one of the things that humans can't handle is radiation.
31:37And we hear a lot about radiation when they come into these encounters.
31:42But now these extraterrestrials seem to bring radiation with them.
31:48So probably our nuclear weapons may be a recharging station.
31:53It could be a lot of things of why they are interested in that.
31:57But at the end of the day, turning them off is saying, hey, don't use it.
32:01But at the same time, it's a message.
32:03That's my opinion.
32:04I think that's what it was.
32:08Disclosure has already happened.
32:11And what we're doing right now, this is disclosure.
32:14Talking about this in a lucid and scientific fashion, that's disclosure.
32:20But I think that we are eventually going to see these technologies and they're going to be us doing them.
32:28And that's our future.
32:30That's the future of ufology and what this will lead to.
32:35Now, we are in some exciting times.
32:39We're now in the time of disclosure.
32:43Everybody's so thrilled about it.
32:46Which I am too, because we want to know.
32:49We want the truth.
32:51But then I start really thinking about it.
32:53How much of disclosure are they going to give us?
32:56And when you start really thinking about it,
32:59Yeah, if we find out there is some new technology that was discovered or whistleblower,
33:04they're going to disclose what we know.
33:07Okay?
33:08But they're not going to just say, come in, you guys.
33:11Here's all the other doors that you doesn't know.
33:14We're just going to go ahead and just tell you everything.
33:16Probably never will happen.
33:18Now, are we further along than we were?
33:20Or do we want to just get the facts that, all right, this thing is real?
33:26Because it's about redemption.
33:28It's about people who've been ridiculed over the years.
33:31People who lost their careers saying that this UFO thing was just crazy.
33:37But now when you've got disclosure and now they're saying, okay, you know what?
33:41We want to admit there was a problem.
33:42There are some things happening.
33:44And so I think that alone will be enough.
33:47But it's not going to really happen until we get that extraterrestrial
33:52who pops up in front of one of these white houses or somebody
33:57and comes out and raises and say, hi, everybody.
34:00I'm such and such from such and such place.
34:03Yes, I'm real.
34:05And that's going to be the disclosure everybody's really looking for.
34:10You know, Brazil was pretty open with UFOs.
34:14I know Spain was.
34:17UK, not so much, you know, especially with Rendlesham Forest.
34:22The Rendlesham Forest incident, also known as Britain's Roswell,
34:26occurred in December 1980 at a military base in Suffolk, England.
34:31According to multiple witnesses, including military personnel,
34:35a UFO landed in the nearby forest and strange lights and other phenomena were observed.
34:42It's an area called Rendlesham Forest, which is a wooded area between two military bases.
34:47At the time, both bases were being run by the U.S. military.
34:51And they had a night where there were some anomalous lights in the woods.
34:56Two of the officers went out to investigate, some guards,
35:00and they reported seeing these strange lights moving around in different ways.
35:05And they went further in the woods to see, well, what was it?
35:08Was it somebody with a flashlight?
35:09Because nobody should have been out there.
35:11And they came across a cleared area and actually found a craft on the ground.
35:18Described it as a triangular-shaped craft on a tripod, like three landing gear.
35:24And they went through the whole thing, described the sound it made, the warmth coming from it.
35:29They made a very detailed description of what the surface looked like.
35:33There was writing on it.
35:35One of the two actually approached it and touched it.
35:39They reported this whole thing back that night.
35:41One of the officers with more men went out the next day to go have a look for themselves.
35:45Found the cleared area and didn't find any craft or anything like that on the ground,
35:49but they did see fresh damage on the trees where they'd been scraped and banged up.
35:55Depressions on the ground.
35:57They took readings and found slightly higher radioactive readings in the area where the landing was supposed to be,
36:04as opposed to the surrounding area.
36:06They found what looked like where something had landed and made a mark on the ground.
36:11And then, over the course of several days, the same guys went out again
36:15because they had another report of anomalous lights, just like the first night.
36:19And that same officer went out with a group of guys and went out looking for it,
36:24saw the same lights, tried to chase them down, saw these lights doing weird maneuvers in the sky,
36:29different colors, things like that.
36:30And the officer in question actually even had an audio recorder.
36:33Apparently it was his habit to keep a tape recorder with him to keep notes.
36:37And so he kept that running the entire time.
36:39And a while back that was actually released to the public.
36:42You can go out on the internet and you can find it and listen to it.
36:45And you can hear him and the other men describing what they're seeing, the lights and the movement.
36:49It's very intriguing.
36:51The incident received widespread media coverage at the time and the military initially denied that anything out of the ordinary had occurred.
37:00However, later government documents and witness testimony have suggested that the incident was covered up.
37:07The incident remains unexplained to this date.
37:11A lot of doubters say that it was a lighthouse.
37:14There was a lighthouse in the area.
37:15It was near the coast.
37:16Or that maybe it was a hoax.
37:18Some board officers trying to pull a joke.
37:21But this one over the course of several days, a fairly good number of people on the military base doing this, going on record no less.
37:30I don't see why there's no benefit in that.
37:34It's not like they're going to make money off of it.
37:36They weren't going to get famous from it.
37:37This was 1980.
37:38Most people, most pilots, most military tend to not report those things because that can hurt your career.
37:43At the very least, it makes you look like a fool at best.
37:46It gets you in trouble.
37:48I tend to believe that this was a real thing.
37:51Another unknown case because there was no actual photographs, no other witnesses outside of these.
37:57Although I believe there was probably six to eight separate witnesses.
38:00But no proper physical evidence.
38:03So nobody can say for sure what did or didn't happen.
38:06But it was a genuine unknown.
38:07The lighthouse theory is fine, except that later on at a point, the lighthouse keeper was interviewed.
38:15And he stated that the lighthouse doesn't shine in that direction.
38:18Because why would the lighthouse shine inland towards the forest?
38:22And a lighthouse light is only going to move in one direction.
38:25It's not going to jump around.
38:26It's not going to change colors.
38:28A lot of the explanations of what it probably really was, don't make enough sense to me.
38:33The Reynolds from Forest, that's my favorite historical famous case.
38:37When it gets down to international stories, there's a lot of evidence out there.
38:42But one I think people should really look into, it's a place, a volcano that's in Mexico right now.
38:49And the Mexican government have taken the time to actually put live stream cameras on this mountain 24 hours a day.
38:58And what we have seen enormously happening all the time is you see UFOs or whatever it is, UAPs, going in and out this volcano.
39:10And what makes it compelling that the descents are controlled.
39:15It slows down as it's going, and the volcano is active.
39:19So we know we have no technology that goes into an active volcano.
39:23So let's think about that as more international proof.
39:27Brazil is a hotbed.
39:29In fact, they have already announced their first UFO National UFO Day and had Lou Elizondo there.
39:38In which I'm going, wait a minute, how did they get there before us?
39:41It's us.
39:42It's here in the US.
39:43We're not the ones that are making a problem.
39:45I think media.
39:46As long as I've been doing this, anytime I'm on a news show, they may make jokes.
39:54You know, before my spot comes on, they'll play something from the X-Files.
39:59Or they'll make a joke.
40:00Or even after I'm on, they'll make another joke.
40:03I want to just go back and slap them.
40:04It's funny now because I can laugh at them.
40:06Because all the times I've been on the news for years and they made fun of me, what are they thinking now?
40:13Are they going to make fun of the Pentagon?
40:15Are they going to make fun of our military?
40:17Are they going to make fun of our pilots?
40:19Especially all those people out there that say they don't exist.
40:22You know, that our pilots aren't really seeing UFOs.
40:27Really?
40:28Are you as good as a fighter pilot?
40:30Do you have the background, the experience, the education that our fighter pilots have to make that comment?
40:37Of course not.
40:38You don't, unless you're another fighter pilot.
40:41So, the same thing with the media.
40:43They have no background.
40:44They have no experience in this.
40:46Yet, they're the first to make fun of it.
40:49And they still do.
40:50They still make fun of the stuff.
40:52They still have their little jokes aside.
40:54Just reality TV is all it is.
40:56Internationally, I think it's something that's out there.
40:59But then I'm sure the US government is saying, don't you guys tell something before we do.
41:05And so, when you think about Brazil, those stories has always encompassed our military intervening.
41:13So, obviously, we're probably got our hands throughout the world when it comes down to other international incidents.
41:20There have been a number of recent UFO sightings reported around the world.
41:37In December 2020, the US Navy confirmed that it had released three videos of unexplained aerial phenomena, UAPs, that were captured by Navy pilots in 2004 and 2015.
41:51The videos show objects moving in ways that appear to defy the laws of physics.
41:57Additionally, in late 2020, the US Air Force's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, AATIP, released a report detailing a number of recent UFO sightings and encounters with UAPs.
42:12The report includes accounts from military pilots, radar operators, and other witnesses who described objects that are able to fly at high speeds, change direction quickly, and perform maneuvers that seem impossible for any known aircraft.
42:28Well, I mean, aside from the most current, the Tic Tac sightings, which I find fascinating, another one, not very current, but more modern day, would be the Phoenix Lights.
42:41Which happened in the 90s.
42:43And that was a combination of things going on there.
42:46Throughout the evening when that occurred, there was tons of phone calls into the local authorities.
42:50People were seeing something flying over the city.
42:53And at the same time, there's plenty of documented footage from people with private video cameras and from news stations of these crazy lights that were going on.
43:02Most of that kind of got explained away a little bit.
43:04It was another case where everybody said it was one thing and the next day the military said,
43:09Oh no, no, we were doing, we were testing things.
43:12There were flares.
43:13Well, a lot of the footage that you see in the news, I think, are flares.
43:17I've seen the military flares.
43:19I've seen them myself.
43:20And they look like that.
43:22They look like flares moving around and burning out and drifting and behind the mountain.
43:27And that very easily explains what was being seen in the video.
43:30The problem with that is that the location where the flares were being recorded is not the same location where everybody was calling in the reports of seeing something flying over the town.
43:40People were calling in reports of seeing a triangular shaped craft with lights on it flying over the houses and flying across town.
43:47That doesn't necessarily match up with the lights that were being seen.
43:51And I don't know that this is for sure.
43:53My theory is that those are military flares and the military put those out on purpose to distract from what they knew was flying across the town.
44:00There were so many witnesses, so many credible witnesses, including local city officials, school teachers, police officers, who saw something flying over the town.
44:12Not just the lights, the flares or whatever they might have been, but they saw a craft.
44:18It had to be two separate things happening on the same night.
44:21People saw something.
44:23They absolutely did.
44:25And it was not just flares.
44:27If you go on the internet, you can look up the Phoenix Lights and you'll see the video.
44:31I'm pretty sure those are flares.
44:33But that is not what people were seeing.
44:36At least I think that's what it is.
44:38The Phoenix Lights were witnessed by thousands of people, including then Governor Fyfe Simington III.
44:45At the time, Simington made a public statement that the lights were flares dropped by the military during a training exercise.
44:53However, later in 2007, Simington publicly admitted that he had lied about the flares and that he had actually seen the lights himself.
45:04He stated that they were otherworldly.
45:06Simington's change of story has added to the mystery surrounding the Phoenix Lights incident and has led some to believe that the lights may have been of extraterrestrial origin.
45:18There is so much going on in this planet, especially now since the Pentagon is now officially researching UFOs.
45:28And it's really exciting time as a UFO investigator because we've been trying to get these guys on board to come out publicly for years and years and years.
45:36But because things change, because of social media, because people talk, even our own pilots and our own military are talking and they can't keep them quiet.
45:47But then again, too, it's a new generation of military, you know, so they're not going by old school anymore.
45:54They're going like, OK, I'm guessing new people, you know, on board that are running this and I want to find out, too.
46:01So it's really interesting what we see now.
46:04It's an exciting time.
46:06So let's now dive into what's happening at our airports these days.
46:12And we do know that there is a movement right now for the FAA to begin to work with the government to get the pilots comfortable with reporting these sightings.
46:24And there's a big difference out there when it comes down to this.
46:28And pilots are reporting all the time when they think they can, because there's a fear factor as of today that they don't want to report these things.
46:38It could cost them their jobs.
46:40But now the government is there's a program they're trying to put in place where there's going to be some accountability.
46:46And to tell the pilots we want that information, because this last ODNI report said that national security, aviation security and then also the stigma was the top three things for FAA side that they was trying to accomplish.
47:03And knowing that we have a lot of these UAPs, there were stories of collisions that has happened.
47:10But then most recently, John Greenwald Jr. released a FOIA Act of an FAA transmission recently that came out of the pilots communicating with each other several different airlines that they all spotted a UAP.
47:27And this thing actually flew underneath one of these planes and disabled some of the controls within this airplane.
47:35And you can hear the pilots talking about it.
47:38This is probably one of the first big releases.
47:40And now for me, I think that we got to be really cautious about this because people want to know, is it a threat with a, you know, we have thousands of planes out there, thousands of them.
47:52And so they're not deliberately trying to down an aircraft, but we do have some coming up missing.
47:57But my question for everyone is, do we really want that type of transparent disclosure when it comes down to airplanes?
48:07And what I mean by that is, I just got off a plane.
48:10So do I want to get ready to board?
48:13And I'm handed a pamphlet out of transparency and said, by the way, we had some encounters up there at this last flight.
48:20Some of our instruments went out, but we landed perfectly fine with the skill set of our pilots.
48:25But you want disclosure, we want to do this.
48:28Or the airline steward is saying, okay, put your oxygen mask on.
48:32But by the way, we had 30,000 feet on our last flight.
48:35There was a swarm of UFOs came and we had to do some invasive maneuvers.
48:40But we just want y'all to know.
48:41That's why.
48:42It wasn't turbulence that you thought.
48:44We're just letting you know.
48:46Do we want that type of disclosure?
48:50I don't think we're ready for that.
48:52What struck me recently in the whole field of the UFO phenomena is that it's failed to come up with new stories.
49:03Most of the discussion about UFOs and UAPs is historical stuff, with the exception of the UAPs.
49:10That's fairly recent.
49:11That's five years ago or whatever.
49:13Almost all the rest are the historical stories.
49:16Roswell is the number one story there.
49:19And it sounds like the aliens have sort of lost interest in us, if you believe all that.
49:25I do get hoaxes.
49:27There was one guy who was making, who was very elaborate.
49:32He was making these balloon constructs.
49:35And I think he had a bunch of people working with them.
49:39And they would be helium balloons, but they would put on paper mache or foil.
49:45And they had one that looked like Sputnik.
49:48And it fooled a lot of people.
49:50I mean, people are still talking about that like it was a UFO.
49:53No, no, no.
49:54It was a party animal.
49:55This guy was trying to hoax people with.
49:59And he would have people come out to the top of a mountain with telescopes and stuff.
50:04And he actually, I played spy.
50:07I went and I watched from the periphery how they were doing this.
50:11He didn't know I was spying on them, but I was.
50:14He didn't know who I was yet.
50:16But somebody put in a UFO report and I put two and two together.
50:21I had heard about what this guy was doing.
50:23He literally has a friend with a Piper Cub, an old Piper Cub, this little plane,
50:30would release these balloon constructs in the clouds.
50:34The guy would get real meditative looking and then he would say, they're here.
50:39And so everybody's got their binoculars and they're going, ooh, ooh, you know.
50:43And I actually confronted the guy.
50:45He handed my card and said, I know what you're doing and I know how you're doing it.
50:49And, you know, your pilot friend made the mistake of wagging his wings at the crowd when he left.
50:55You know, I asked the guy behind me, well, who's that guy wagging his wings at us right after UFOs showed up?
51:02And the guy said, oh, those are the men in black.
51:06We see them every single time.
51:09And that was an elaborate hoax.
51:11The guy was getting on TV.
51:13He was making money off of it.
51:15You know, he charged for events.
51:17Other times I'll have somebody, like I had a CGI person put in a very well-produced video that was just too good to be true.
51:28And, you know, a little daughter danced past the camera, really being cute at one point.
51:34And it's like, this looks really produced.
51:37And I did a little bit of detective work and I found that the person actually had an online resume that said CGI work realer than real life.
51:49And then I did a little bit more research and I found, like, on social media, this person and friends yucking it up at a party, you know, at the computer.
52:01And I was like, OK, I know exactly what happened.
52:04You know, she produced a CGI video, tried to submit it, tried to fool MUFON.
52:09And I guess she would have probably used that on her resume.
52:13I even fooled MUFON.
52:15Yeah.
52:16So, unfortunately, we do get hoaxes.
52:18It muddies the field up.
52:20I mean, some of them are funny.
52:22Some of them actually, they make me laugh once I've figured out what was going on.
52:28But it's not good to fool people.
52:31And I'll tell you, the UFO phenomenon in itself is so interesting that you can't make up anything that's better than the real thing.
52:39It's just always kind of a downer because it's just, it's not as good as the real phenomenon.
52:46The red flag always comes up for me when I talk to somebody and they say, well, I know exactly why they're here.
52:51This is the red flag, you know.
52:54Or because do you really know? You don't know. You're just speculating.
52:58Unless, you know, you have a written document or something in their handwriting.
53:02All you can do is, I think I know.
53:05But for those people, and then the other people that say, I see aliens all the time.
53:09I go, well, can you take a picture like one time, give it to me?
53:13Oh, they don't like their pictures taken, you know.
53:15And they're never around when I have my camera.
53:17And I'm like, OK, talk to you later.
53:20Well, I think being an investigator among friends, one of their thoughts probably is,
53:27Roderick, what evidence or is this really happening?
53:30And when I, when I give it some thought and I try to remove myself from working on case files,
53:35that I believe, I know we're not alone in this universe.
53:39But what was someone who is new to this?
53:42Where would I send them or what would I provide to them to give them?
53:46And so I start to start thinking about ancient civilizations.
53:51When you go back to pyramid structures and technology and all of that,
53:56that's enough to awaken that curiosity to someone.
53:59To get them to say, OK, wait a minute, who built those?
54:02You go back and look at the Dogon tribes and all of the Star Constellation information.
54:07And now you want to even go biblically or start looking into religious things
54:12and documents that have shown that there's possible extraterrestrial interactions.
54:19And so the evidence is going to begin with the research.
54:22Because we don't have, outside of the stories, Roswell, the bodies recovered.
54:28We don't have physical public reference for that average person to say,
54:34prove it to me, except for things that are unexplained that will then lead them to,
54:41to the curiosity saying, oh, wait a minute, this may be true.
54:45I, you know, I, I kind of like the UFO lore, if you want to call it that,
54:50because some of it is, you know, colorful and even dramatically interesting.
54:54I mean, the whole Roswell thing. Anybody who's been to Roswell will recognize
55:00that the best thing that ever happened to the city of Roswell
55:03was to be associated with aliens somehow, right?
55:06Because the entire downtown is given over to the sale of, you know, artifacts or tchotchkes, really,
55:12you know, of UFO hosts, right? Or aliens or something.
55:16There's a UFO museum downtown, a converted movie theater, that sort of thing, right?
55:21So, for them, it's been good for business, if you will, the aliens.
55:25Today, everybody has a camera, both a still camera and a video camera.
55:28They have that in their pockets, right? And it's a pretty good camera.
55:32And yet, somehow, the aliens have still managed to avoid any really convincing footage.
55:38Now, there's a fellow at Harvard, Avi Loeb is his name, and he's a professor of astronomy at Harvard.
55:43And he has started a project to try and build equipment to get high-resolution photos of these UAPs and UFOs.
55:50I mean, you've got to admire that. That's a good thing to do.
55:53I don't imagine they're going to find anything.
55:55But, you know, that's just my personal opinion, and it may not be that way.
55:59But at least he's trying. And I think that that's important.
56:03The future is we'll be building them and flying them.
56:09I, oh, you know, that's, that's the Mufon's Creed, you know, is the investigation of UFOs for the benefit,
56:16the scientific investigation of UFOs for the benefit of humanity.
56:21Well, that's how it would benefit us is if we add that technology.
56:25It's difficult to predict what the future holds for ufology.
56:33In recent years, there has been renewed interest in UFOs and UAPs
56:38as a result of various governments releasing previously classified information and reports on UAP sightings.
56:45It's possible that this renewed interest in UFOs could lead to more funding for research and investigation into the phenomenon.
56:53On the other hand, if the interest in UFOs and UAPs is not sustained, research and investigation into the phenomenon may decline.
57:03There are a lot of people that are interested in how the propulsion works.
57:08And things like zero point energy are often spoken of, you know, some of Tesla's ideas and all that.
57:16I think that it's making us look at technology differently.
57:20And it's, it's cut away some of the limitations that I think that we self imposed on ourselves.
57:26You know, it's just like Ben Rich from Lockheed Skunk Works said in one lecture he gave at UCLA, he said that we have the technology right now to take ET home.
57:38He said all the stuff you've seen on Star Trek and Star Wars, we can do and even better, but it's all locked up in black programs and the public will never see it.
57:48You know, it's unfunded programs.
57:50Just the idea and the technologies that we've witnessed through this phenomenon have led us already to design stuff of our own.
58:00And maybe we'll see some things like anti-gravity soon.
58:04I think we have it, but it's not, you know, I think it's, it's hard to do.
58:09Like it's probably expensive to do.
58:11And it's going to open up Pandora's box again.
58:14They're going to have to explain where they got it.
58:16And it's, you know, as soon as, you know, people start going up into outer space,
58:21they're going to start seeing things that they probably aren't supposed to see.
58:26So this is all coming out soon, I think.
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