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In this episode of Politically Frank, political activist Badrul Hisham Shaharin, better known as Chegubard delivers a candid look into his relentless crusade against corruption and his vision for a people-centric Malaysia.

Straightforward and unapologetic, Chegubard challenges the status quo, arguing that corruption must be judged solely by actions rather than the reputations or "big names" involved. 

Throughout the conversation, he reflects on the "radical" label often attached to his name, his unwavering faith in the democratic process and his firm belief that putting the needs of the people above party loyalty is the only viable path forward for the nation.

Catch the full, unfiltered conversation in the video below.
Transcript
00:00In this political prank episode with Sinar Daily, we have Chek Gu Bat in the house!
00:05Are you ready for the question?
00:07First question, for those who might not know you,
00:10what does the name Chek Gu Bat matter in Malaysian politics?
00:15Maybe everybody see me as a radical.
00:20But for me is...
00:25Street Forward is the word.
00:28Alright.
00:29So you were...
00:30The first sec from the PQR in 2016 of allegations of damaging of the...
00:35party image and also causing internal divisions.
00:38How do you look back at this...
00:40episode today?
00:41Ah...
00:42For me, I thanks for that episode.
00:45What happened?
00:46Ah...
00:47At that particular moment, teach me.
00:50A lot.
00:51And then...
00:52Ah...
00:53I didn't regret.
00:54I...
00:55I'm really thanksful for what happened.
00:59You can test it...
01:00Rantau in 2004 against Datuk Seri Muhammad Hassan, Rembau in 2004.
01:05Rantau in 2008 against Keri Jamaluddin and Sungai Aceh in 2013.
01:10Rantau in 2008 against Keri Jamaluddin and Sungai Aceh in 2013.
01:15For me, I did not show kin.
01:20About seat and where I must stand in the politics.
01:25But for me, I'm still young, 47.
01:30But I feel this time...
01:35I must think about what happened in this country and what...
01:40My role to...
01:42To make sure this...
01:45This country still conducive for my children and my...
01:50To make sure kids to live.
01:53Okay.
01:54What is your honesty...
01:55On the current camps and internal fractures within Bersatu?
02:00Uh...
02:02For me, this is normal.
02:04Uh...
02:05When we talk about a political party, every party faces...
02:10Uh...
02:11Facing...
02:12Uh...
02:13Same thing also...
02:14But...
02:15In Bersatu...
02:16I think...
02:17Uh...
02:18We...
02:19Uh...
02:20We...
02:20Are too sincere...
02:21To talk to the people...
02:23About our problem.
02:25But...
02:26We don't...
02:27Uh...
02:28We must not feel comfortable.
02:30Uh...
02:31Uh...
02:32Or...
02:33We must see this is the...
02:34The main problem.
02:35Uh...
02:36We must solve it fast.
02:37Uh...
02:38We must solve it fast.
02:39Uh...
02:40Because the main problem is...
02:43Uh...
02:44Uh...
02:45the people, what people feel.
02:50Yeah, it looks like we are not attached to the...
02:55the voters and people.
02:57What pushed you to expose corruption cases?
03:00Knowing the personal and political risks involved.
03:03For me, it's not...
03:05Who do the corruption?
03:09The actor is...
03:10It's not the important.
03:11But the main thing is the...
03:13What they do.
03:15The corruption, we must fight it seriously.
03:20Because the main thing is...
03:22This is the one and only our mother's soul.
03:25So that...
03:26We must stand up together, bravely and boldly.
03:30To fight the corruption.
03:32When you first came forward with this and this tribulations...
03:35How did people around you act?
03:37Okay...
03:40Sometimes...
03:42Uh...
03:43Uh...
03:44I feel...
03:45Uh...
03:46When...
03:47People...
03:48Uh...
03:50Didn't understand what...
03:52What I did.
03:53I feel myself also did not.
03:58I do not understand what I did but the main thing is
04:03we must understand when we are facing something wrong.
04:08We must stand up bravely, we must talk and fight it.
04:13What message do you have for young lesions?
04:18What message do you want to enter politics?
04:20Okay, first of all,
04:23we cannot lose hope of this.
04:28The democracy and party system.
04:33The second thing is politics is not about
04:38politics is not about
04:43where you must stand it,
04:45but politics is about people.
04:48What you want to fight for.
04:51If you put that...
04:53particular or that is your destiny in politics.
04:58I think we can make this country better.
05:03Alright.
05:04So last question.
05:05In your view, what does an ideal Malaysia actually look like?
05:08Ah...
05:12Malaysia must...
05:13be a people-centric country.
05:15I think Malaysia can be better.
05:18if...
05:19ah...
05:20we put the people first...
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