In this episode of Top News, Muda Secretary General Ainie Haziqah Shafii outlines what’s next for the party following its first-ever elections — a renewed push to strengthen grassroots movements, backed by a diverse leadership team as they gear up for GE16.
She also makes a strong case for the return of local government elections, stressing that accountability must lie with the people, not political appointments while addressing common misconceptions surrounding the issue.
On women’s empowerment, she highlights the importance of mentorship over tokenism as Muda works to prepare a new generation of leaders — championing youth, inclusivity and bold reforms as the party moves forward.
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She also makes a strong case for the return of local government elections, stressing that accountability must lie with the people, not political appointments while addressing common misconceptions surrounding the issue.
On women’s empowerment, she highlights the importance of mentorship over tokenism as Muda works to prepare a new generation of leaders — championing youth, inclusivity and bold reforms as the party moves forward.
#AinieHaziqah #Muda #TopNews #Podcast #GE16 #LocalElections #Women #Leadership #YouthPolitics #SinarDaily
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00:00Hi everyone, I'm Tasim Luqman from SinarDaily and you are watching Top News Podcast with Aini Hazika.
00:07She's the Muda's Secretary General and we're going to talk about Muda's official roadmap towards G60.
00:14InsyaAllah.
00:16And also Muda's post-election discussion and analysis.
00:21Okay, ready, ready, ready.
00:22Okay, we're ready.
00:23Okay, excuse us.
00:25We're like a little bit.
00:26I hope everybody can hear and clear about things.
00:29Before we start, I just want to say,
00:31Selamat Hari Raya.
00:32Selamat Hari Raya.
00:32Selamat Hari Raya.
00:34Selamat Hari Raya semua orang.
00:36I hope you guys are doing well on this like 6th day of Raya?
00:396th eh?
00:41At least 6th lah.
00:426th day of Raya.
00:43So let's start, okay.
00:45Firstly, congratulations Muda for their first ever party elections.
00:51It was quite, I think it was quite happening.
00:53Like many orang contest.
00:55And there was like quite a number of women as well in the party.
00:58So congratulations.
00:59Firstly, I want to ask.
01:01Like how was your emotions during the elections?
01:05I finally can say that we're done.
01:09I mean, my best word is like we're done with this.
01:14Safely because, to be honest, like all this while, everybody is really,
01:19Um,
01:19Keja Muda.
01:20Like when is your first party election?
01:23Like where is the direction of the party?
01:26Legitimacy of the party and whatnot.
01:27Finally, we can say we're done with it.
01:29That's why I said like, tadi kan?
01:30We're done.
01:32Because at the end of the day, I think, um,
01:33when political party wants to, to, to move forward,
01:36wants to, to actually make a lot of like, um, important decision.
01:40Legitimacy is very, very important.
01:42So, um, as the first secretary general who actually made this happen.
01:47Okay.
01:48Made the first party election happen.
01:50And I don't think any other party had any, any first woman young.
01:55Yes.
01:55Um, the first, uh, um, actually party president
01:59and juga secretary general together running the first party election.
02:02Yeah.
02:02Um, I think it's amazing.
02:03I wouldn't rest.
02:05I feel it's amazing too.
02:06Yeah.
02:06Like seriously, I was like, yes, I do feel the change.
02:09I do feel the difference.
02:10And like, you know, I feel like we saw the transparency
02:14and the credibility that you want to put out, you know,
02:17as Muda towards the people and towards your audience.
02:20Right.
02:21So let's touch on the central committee's plans and the motivation first.
02:25Like what's your direction?
02:26What would be the party's purpose ahead?
02:30Especially because GE16 is so close, apparently according to some sources.
02:34Right.
02:35So what are Amira and Zaidal's plans?
02:38Your president and deputy president, but also like as a group, as a committee, as a whole.
02:42Okay.
02:43I think the first two things that is very important for us to address is actually the first one is,
02:47of course, the GE16 that is coming.
02:50We really do not know whether it's going to happen this year or next year,
02:53but it's just going to happen.
02:55Um, I think that's something that is the first thing that we have to address.
02:59Number two is actually structuring and also strengthening the party.
03:02Um, and internally on how we want to, uh, make sure that the party members are strengthened,
03:10um, unity, um, and in terms of like the strength that the party can bring.
03:14And I think these two top most important thing is what is, what we are going to do, um,
03:21during this, this first, um, at least few months.
03:23All right. Um, to structure back, like what's important for us in the upcoming election.
03:28Because it's not just talking about like GE16.
03:30Um, we're coming into like what's next?
03:33Melaka, Johor, Sarawak.
03:34You know, all this, we do not know whether it's going to happen together with GE16 or not.
03:39So I think that's the most important thing, um, when it comes to political party.
03:43At the end of the day, all political parties,
03:45the most important thing is how they want to face, um, um, party, uh, general election.
03:50That's number one.
03:51Number two is actually, of course, as I mentioned earlier, is on, um, the internal, um, party, um, structuring as
03:57well.
03:58Uh, because this is just our first, finishing our first, we've just finished with our first party election.
04:04Yeah. So that means, um, everyone who is at the top or like the Central Executive Committee right now,
04:10are those who are, um, they're memang elected.
04:14So when they are elected, they know that they have very high legitimacy and also responsibility.
04:21Accountability.
04:22So I think this is what the party needs at the moment now.
04:26Um, structuring and making sure that the party is accountable to a lot of like decision, decision making, um, very,
04:33very soon or in the future.
04:34So benda ni, apa yang kita nak focus right now lah.
04:37Okay. Alright.
04:38And you know what, I love the fact that it's, okay, tadi kita mentioned, you're the Secretary General and Amira
04:43as the President.
04:44And equally, we have Zainal as Deputy and then VP is Dobby Liban among others lah kan.
04:50So like, I, what I see is a very gender diverse, sorry, gender and racial diverse backgrounds of people in
04:58the top.
04:58Yeah.
04:59In the top, okay.
05:00Um, actually we rarely see this.
05:03Yeah.
05:04Okay. So what, what's your like, what's your take on this?
05:08Yes.
05:08To be honest, I love how muda, the, the, the new structure of how muda is right now.
05:13Um, because, um, if you see a lot of like other big political parties kan.
05:17Macam, contohnya if let's say they say that they are multi-racial.
05:19Yeah.
05:19But yeah, first top three, for example, will always be one race.
05:24Yes.
05:24And one gender.
05:25One gender, one race.
05:26Definitely.
05:27It's very, very difficult to penetrate into at least a top two or top three.
05:31But I think with muda, um, is that what we can prove, um, the fact that, you know, we are
05:36blind with all, all this.
05:38It's gender blind.
05:39We are, um, racial blind.
05:41To ensure that equal opportunities is given to everyone, not just like one or two person, one or two race
05:47or gender.
05:48Yes. Of course we push for, for, for, um, gender equality.
05:51We push for more women, et cetera.
05:54But at the end of the day, it's the top, um, top five most important position, for example.
06:00And it needs people with courage to go into it.
06:04To, to, to, to, um, of course, um, perceive, be perceived out there, um, um, confidently.
06:10So I think what we have right now is what we have been aspiring all this while, which is something
06:16to be proud of.
06:17Yeah.
06:17Nice. Okay. Okay.
06:18I'm going to, I'm going to be a little bit, a devil's advocate here.
06:22Okay. Okay.
06:22All seven women contested for the polls and they won.
06:25Yeah.
06:25Okay. I want to be, I want to say here, since there's 25 spots for CEC and 36 who contested.
06:32About 36, right?
06:3331.
06:3331. Okay. 31.
06:35Why was only seven?
06:37Why was only 15 ke? 16 ke?
06:41Okay. Um, first and foremost, um, generally, we always push for more women to contest in, um, Central Executive Committee.
06:49But since this is the, our very first party election, alright?
06:53We want to make sure that those who really contest are those who are really ready.
06:58Okay.
06:58Who really, memang, bukan dipaksa. Okay.
07:01Okay. They cannot be forced, alright? Or coerced, um, at one point. Um, they must be ready to be in
07:07such a big decision making platform.
07:10Ataupun, um, um, um, platform lah. Alright? So, it is not easy for us to just pick and choose, okay,
07:16you'll be here, you'll be here and whatnot. No.
07:18I think having all seven to contest and to win does not happen at any other political party.
07:26Betul.
07:26You know, a lot of them just like, okay, kita nak more women. We want, like, 20 women, 30 women
07:30to contest in, in, in, in party elections or in, uh, elections in general.
07:35But at the end of the day, whether they are winnable or not. So, at the end of the day,
07:40the representation will depend on whether they win or not.
07:43So, sekarang ni, kita macam dapur ruf lah. Hundred percent women yang bertanding, hundred percent win. Yeah.
07:49Okay. I get it. I get it. And unfortunately, macam banyak, when we talk about, like, generally lah, kan.
07:54But then, oh, I letak je lah you kat sini. I letak je lah you kat sini. This is talking
07:58about, like, elections lah in, um, GE or in state parties, right? State elections.
08:04People just like, okay, you letaklah kat sini, you letaklah kat sini. Just, just untuk cukupkan kuota and you don't
08:10really get winnable seats, you know?
08:12You just put there untuk, ala dia akan kalah. So, takpelah kita letak kat sini, kan.
08:16For experience lah and whatnot.
08:18What do you think about that, you know?
08:20Well, well, in a way, it's also good. Because sometimes, you need, um, experience.
08:24There's a chance, okay? You at least give that.
08:26Let's see how, um, statistics and also data work, alright?
08:31You see that, if you want women to achieve at least 30%, for example, in decision making, you
08:37tak boleh letak 30% as candidate. You need to put 50 to 70% as women, I mean, as
08:44women candidates,
08:45then you might win 30 to 40%.
08:48Yes.
08:48Alright? But if you put 30%, of course, winning rate tu bukanlah 30% juga.
08:53Yeah, probably like 10% or 50%.
08:55So, I think, I think that's also an important point that we have to stress on the fact that, of
08:59course, we put 7%, alright?
09:01Um, it has not reached, um, 30%, but we got 100% winning, ataupun diswinnable candidates to win.
09:09Yeah.
09:09So, whatever it is, I think, um, the concept of putting women, ataupun pushing women on this platform, especially
09:18political platform, must be, um, uh, commendable. You need to make sure that these are the ones who are ready
09:26to be there.
09:28Yeah. And, and to be honest with you, seven people, all these seven women that we put, are those who
09:33I have experienced,
09:34memang ready to be in the leadership.
09:36Okay. Alright, that's nice to hear. That's good to hear.
09:39Um, what will move the focus for women now?
09:42Hmm. Okay, um, I think this is, um, uh, generally, memang a lot of, like, our women candidates would actually
09:48push for a lot of, like, their, their women agenda and whatnot.
09:52Yeah. But, in very specific, at least for me, one of, I put out five tekad, uh, five tekad Aini
09:57Hazika for the party election.
09:59And one of it is actually to focus on women empowerment in the party, um, internally.
10:05So, a lot of, like, a lot of times we actually want to, um, uh, get more women to be
10:11in our political party, in a lot of political parties, especially Moja as well.
10:15Uh, but one thing that we forgot, Adela, uh, we forgot to actually not just, um, bring them in, but
10:22at the end of the day, they needed to be nurtured.
10:24Yeah. They needed to be empowered. They needed the platform and opportunities.
10:28You can't just place them in a, in a group, um, in an organization, but you forgot to actually push
10:34them in terms of, like, the opportunities that they can get, um, the platform that they need, the speaking platform,
10:40for example.
10:41So, this is what we are going to do. One of the, one of the things that I am pushing
10:45after this is actually a mentor-mentee program.
10:48Okay. But this mentor-mentee isn't just about I mentor you internally. We want to make sure that we can
10:52work with, um, uh, women leaders outside, um, from CSOs, from corporate background and whatnot, to ensure that our, um,
11:01training, our, um, content that we can actually nurture or, or, or give to, to our women, um, leaders, um,
11:08especially the young ones, are, um,
11:10Um, um, um, are generally, uh, uh, secara keseluruhannya cukup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think holistically, it has to be
11:19holistic.
11:19Yes, yes. Get them ready fully and 100%. Correct. To face the crowd, like, to face the people.
11:25Yeah, actually, I'm pushing that so much because, like, this is what the feedbacks that I get. A lot of
11:28time, kan, rasa macam, you know, uh, we want to be in political party.
11:31You see a lot, like, young women, they want to be in political party. They have the passion. They have
11:36the, the, the, the interest. But, when they are in, what do you do with them?
11:41Oh, yelah. Do you just make them, okay, jom, pergi volunteering. Okay, jom. Okay, jom.
11:45Jom, pergi buat ni. Penuhkan program and whatnot. No, you want to nurture them to be the next leader. To
11:51be the second tier, third tier. You know, you have to, to ready them with that. Yeah.
11:55Okay, alright. And what are your plans for the 16th January election? Okay, currently, um, we have been doing a
12:04lot of, like, preparation as well.
12:05Okay. In fact, before, um, um, the party election. Because, you know, at the end of the day, um, when
12:11the party runs its own election,
12:14dia tak semestinya, kita tak boleh nak buat kerja-kerja luar lain and sebagainya. So, of course, um, we have
12:20been doing a lot of, like, groundwork.
12:22We also been doing, uh, uh, we have been working with, like, party, like, uh, Pejuang to, to, to, um,
12:29hold up a lot of, like, issues, to bring up a lot of, like, issues,
12:32like the current very famous issue with, um, corruption, um, the corporate mafia and whatnot. So, I think in terms
12:38of readiness, we are slowly readying, um, a lot of, like, our machinery resources
12:42to ensure that we can enter into general election with whatever capacity that we have, number one.
12:49Number two is also important to also analyze what we have done before. Okay. Um, what we have done before
12:54in our previous elections, right?
12:56Muradin go into a lot of elections, but, um, we went into three big elections previously, and I think we
13:02learned so much from it
13:03to bring us and ready us for our next, um, general election. Okay. Yeah. Alright. If, uh, if it doesn't
13:10have, uh, if the elections doesn't have, uh, doesn't happen simultaneously,
13:14we might see Melaka, lepas tu Sarawak, lepas tu Johor, happen in state, state levels, lah. Uh, are you guys
13:21planning to contest for those?
13:23Uh, well, it has to be discussed, um, at our, um, general executive committee at the moment now, but at
13:28the moment now,
13:29we have one done, which is Puca Wangsa. And I believe that this is something that also, even for me,
13:35I, I suggest that we must make sure
13:37that we contest again, lah, because that's our seat. Um, that's a seat that we kena pertahankan, alright? So, um,
13:43I think that's something that
13:43most important thing, but other than that, um, it will be discussed, um, thoroughly, um, with, um, uh, the committee.
13:49Yeah.
13:50I mean, like, even though, kita tengah mood raya lagi, but we don't know, like, it could happen tomorrow, like.
13:57Exactly, exactly. That's what I heard. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Um, on, on another topic, right, like, we've seen you guys
14:05work
14:06really hard, really close, not really hard, sorry, really close with Pejuang and also PSM, kan? Yeah, correct. Are you
14:11guys having any
14:12discussions about coalitions or working together? And there was, like, a few, last year or something,
14:18um, Amirah had a meeting with, uh, Tansi Muhyiddin. IPR. Ah, IPR, yes. Yeah. I think what Muda stands for
14:25right now is, um, we have to stand with the principles, the policy that we have put forward
14:30from day one, alright? Um, this is the most important thing. You know, um, Muda cannot just be in a
14:36coalition just for the sake of being in a coalition to win election. Yeah. Uh, because at the end of
14:41the day,
14:41of course, political party, they go into elections and the election and they must win, um, seats,
14:46right? Yes. Um, I think generally we know that. Um, but I think the most important thing is to make,
14:51make sure that, you know, we won't run away from, uh, uh, uh, the things that we have been fighting
14:57for,
14:57for example. We don't compromise on the things that we have been fighting for. I think that's the most
15:03important thing as well. So I think one of the things that we have also talked about and also clearly
15:07is
15:07covered by a lot of like media also is actually talking on electoral pack. Okay. Alright. Um, it may
15:12not be in coalition at the moment right now, but I think most important, um, the most important thing
15:17is that to ensure that there are packs that we can make. You know, we have been doing electoral pack
15:22with PSM. We have been working closely on a lot of, um, local issues, um, social issues, and in fact,
15:30the national issues with, um, Pejuang. And I believe that in fact, yes, um, as you mentioned,
15:35Amira has been attending, Amira and also some of our representatives has been attending meetings
15:40with, um, IPR. And obviously we have been making it very clear that, um, we will, we will be working
15:47with them on a lot of like similarities, uh, which includes the people. Alright. Any issues,
15:54national issues, for example, we are open to working on that. Alright. But at the end of the day,
15:58Moodle stand, must stand, um, uh, on its own principle. And that what makes Moodle different.
16:03Okay. Alright. You cannot just be in coalition because you want to, you want, for me. You know,
16:07you tak boleh berada dalam coalition just because, oh, I, I need to be in election. Betul. Betul.
16:12It's very important to be in a coalition. I cannot deny that. But I think benda yang paling
16:17penting juga the fact that when you want to be in a coalition, you must know what you want to
16:22offer.
16:22Yeah. You must bring value to the coalition. And the, uh, coalition ni di
16:28tak semestinya you kena masuk dalam coalition. It, it doesn't just work that way. Alright.
16:33We have done before during Electro Pact. You know, we have done before working together
16:37with, like, different political parties and we know, um, how it's like to define the kind
16:42of, like, coalition. Yeah. Okay. Alright. That sounds really interesting because
16:46because, um, it, this is the beauty of, like, the change, or the dynamics of politics in Malaysia.
16:59Um, it demands changes. It demands, like, like, the young people to do something much more different
17:06than what, uh, what has been done previously. So, mungkin sebelum ni, semua orang kena join this coalition, this coalition
17:12and whatnot.
17:12But I think maybe we might want to define a little bit more on how we do the coalition. Alright.
17:19As long as at the end of the day, kita tak, um, kita faham the needs of each other
17:24Ataupun keperluan setiap party. For example, for Moodle, we fight against corruption. Yeah.
17:30We, we, we, um, um, we go, uh, for gender equality. Uh, we, we fight a lot of, like, um,
17:39a lot of, like, uh, things, um, for the country
17:42and, uh, national issues and whatnot. So, these are the things that is very, very important for us to stand
17:47by it. Yeah. Right. Um,
17:49Um, other parties might have, contohnya, macam local elections. Right. Other parties, Pejuang might have a different view on how
17:55they see local elections.
17:57Yes. But we are very, very, very certain that this is what we want for local elections. Okay. From day
18:02one. So, what do you guys want for local elections?
18:04We want local elections to happen. Okay. Okay. Okay. We definitely want local elections. Not just, macam, pilih Datuk Bandar.
18:09Uh-huh.
18:10Uh-huh. But for me, as somebody who was, uh, once an Ali Majlis before. Yeah. I also want, like,
18:15the third government to be elected as a whole. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
18:18Like, the, like, having a mayor. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Not, not, not just mayor tau. But actually, the Ali
18:23Majlis, those who are sitting in the board of, like, the, the, the third government. Yeah. Local Council.
18:28So, so, like, actually, that's interesting because I've always, I generally, okay, kita, kita understand lah the whole concept. But
18:34not everyone understands this. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm pretty sure a lot of younger audience pun, like, what is that,
18:40right? Like, even, actually, even yang kakak-kakak and makcik-makcik pun tak faham sangat. Yeah. Maybe you could explain
18:45why is it important to have that option. Okay. Um, generally, kan, for me, eh, um, everybody think that, um,
18:53a lot of people think that when you have local elections, you will actually divide, uh, races. Yes.
18:58Which, up until today, I sebenarnya tak faham, like, how does that happen? Okay. Because at the end of the
19:02day, this is just the third layer of decision making. All right? Um, everybody can send their rep, their party
19:10reps and whatnot to contest in the, um, as, as the mayor, as, as, uh, Ali Majlis and whatnot.
19:16Now, Ali Majlis ni sebenarnya dia buat kerja, um, di dalam don tersebut. For example, in Don Batu Tiga. If,
19:23like, say, Don Batu Tiga ada, um, enam zone, contohnya.
19:27So, setiap zone akan diwakili oleh satu Ali Majlis yang dipilih oleh people in that area. Okay. You see? Because,
19:34uh, we talk a lot about, like, the local issues, kan. Yes.
19:37So, Ali Majlis ni sebenarnya yang akan, um, do the work. All right? Yang akan understand the local issues. Like,
19:44make sure longkang, longkang, and whatnot. And whatever, lah, kan, basically.
19:48And I believe that why we need this is because of accountability. Yeah. You know, I've been there. I've been
19:53there where, um, I was one of the Ali Majlis in, uh, Majlis Bandarai PJ. Okay.
19:58And I know how it feels like, you know, as a local council who is not elected and appointed, you
20:04need to make yourself known to the people so that, you know, uh, you can be accountable to them.
20:09But not semua orang macam I. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:12Not everyone would go out and do programs every weekend, go out and tell people that I am your rep
20:17and, you know, come to me if you need help.
20:20But if you are elected, you know, they will choose you. Okay, for example, kita dua lawan and I win,
20:26for example. People know that they elected me.
20:30So, they can come to you. They can come to me. And they need help. They can carry you.
20:34And I need to be accountable to them. But sekarang ni, when you appoint, who am I going to be
20:40accountable to? Except for my political party.
20:42Exactly. You get my point? Yes.
20:43So, I think this is very important for us to understand that local elections isn't about, like, race against race,
20:51racial fights and whatnot. No.
20:53I think it's more about accountability. I mean, I've seen it firsthand because I was there. Okay.
20:59And I think that kalau you, you nak ada accountability macam mana because you're appointed by your political party.
21:07Whatever.
21:07And that is where you report to. Yeah.
21:09So, kalau macam adun dengan ahli parlimen, for example, they know their accountability is to the people who voted for
21:15them, elect them.
21:17Sama juga dengan tergambung. The process is the same.
21:19I think we have to correct ataupun betulkan balik how people see or understand local elections.
21:28Okay. All right. That sounds, I think that's very basic untuk people to understand, you know.
21:33Okay.
21:35Tapi ramai tak faham tau. So, we have to always explain and explain how this works lah.
21:39Tapi betul. Memang ramai orang tak faham.
21:40I think actually, actually, the problem is that people mistakenly, no, actually, the information that they grabs all this while
21:52or the information given to them is wrongly interpreted.
21:55Yeah. Okay.
21:56All right.
21:56People think that local elections is actually elections between racial, racial, benda-benda macam tu.
22:04So, that's why. That's where the problem lies on.
22:06It always goes back to, like, the issue of race, like, and unfortunately, I don't know why, everybody goes back,
22:12oh, DAP not, DAP not, like, like...
22:15Tak, tapi bukan semua kawasan DAP.
22:16Exactly. That's why. And I think people can understand, it's not just, like, because I think they're macam DBKL, mayor,
22:24KL, mayor, KL.
22:25There are mayors in other cities and towns, right?
22:27Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
22:47So, kalau kawasan rumah you, ada tulis itu, majlis pembandaran, you can vote.
22:52You sepatutnya boleh vote, bukan DBKL sahaja.
22:54Yeah, I think people, like, don't comprehend that part.
22:57You know, people keep thinking, like, me, KL, because, I mean, come on, let's be honest, all we hear is,
23:01like, London, mayor, KL, mayor, London, mayor.
23:04And very funny, yeah, Malaysia is among...
23:06And New York, mayor.
23:07You know, you're bangga.
23:08You know, it's very funny that Malaysia is among very little countries who have not done third government punya election.
23:16Yeah, it's very sad lah.
23:17Unfortunately, let's talk about it further, then, Tia.
23:20Okay.
23:21Tapi, okay, on that note, I want to touch on something.
23:26Hmm.
23:26Okay.
23:28Mari kita cakap pasal BASS.
23:31Oh, wow, wow, wow.
23:33Bella Astila and Saya Sadik.
23:34Okay.
23:35Okay, let's not talk about them.
23:36Banyak sangat rumour, mereka nak kahwin, mereka nak get married soon, blah, blah, blah.
23:39You know what?
23:39We don't know.
23:40We don't know and we don't want to talk about them.
23:41Because they are not here for us to interview.
23:45But, I do want to talk about how the BASS followers and the BASS fans has impacted Muda as a
23:52political party.
23:54Hmm, okay.
23:54I mean, Saya Sadik founded Muda with you guys.
23:57Co-founded Muda with you guys.
23:59How has BASS played a role in Muda's progress?
24:06The best part of this is that I can share actually is the fact that we have actually, we actually
24:14managed to penetrate into communities who doesn't, not just not love politics, but doesn't understand politics.
24:23Doesn't see politics as their daily needs or their daily keperluan, you know.
24:28So, I think we managed to penetrate into that.
24:32So, when this whole phenomena happens, right?
24:35Phenomena?
24:36Phenomena?
24:36Yes, you.
24:38When this whole phenomena happens, one thing for sure is that we get to capture or penetrate into this group
24:48of community or this group of people who are not interested in politics previously.
24:54Who doesn't know what political parties are.
24:57Who doesn't even know Muda.
24:59All right?
24:59So, it's something very, very new to us obviously because you are already in your bubble.
25:04You don't know how political party works.
25:06But apparently, there's just so many out there who doesn't even know.
25:11I know.
25:12Some people don't know the difference between political party and political coalition.
25:16Exactly.
25:16So, it's sad that but Alhamdulillah, we managed to penetrate into that which is something to be proud of because
25:22a lot of like this in this BAS group ni yang memang slowly want to know like what does Muda
25:28do?
25:29What does Muda fight for?
25:31Like, can I be part of Muda?
25:33Can I understand how political party works?
25:36How the government functions?
25:37Exactly.
25:38Not just political party but also how the government works.
25:41How a government and opposition works.
25:43What does the parliament do?
25:45You know, what does Ali Dewan Undangan Negeri buat?
25:48All these things.
25:50You know, imagine.
25:51Imagine penetrating into a big community or a big group of people who previously doesn't want to know anything at
25:58all when it comes to apatah lagi pergi mengundi.
26:01Imagine we have like thousands of people who actually just don't go out and vote.
26:05So, you know, penetrating into this kind of group is actually healthy for our whole political system and our whole
26:12democracy system as well.
26:16It's good for us in that sense.
26:18It's interesting because like, I would say it's from the star power, right?
26:22The star power of Bella, right?
26:23Because she's a celebrity, she's an artist and singer.
26:26So, it opens eyes to people yang, you know, fans of entertainment.
26:33Not fans of politics, right?
26:35Yeah, yeah, actually, yes.
26:37Tapi, the best part is that I've met a few of them who become our members tau.
26:41Especially from Sabah.
26:42I've met some of them.
26:44I, you know, to be honest with you, when I met them, I didn't know that they come from that
26:48community ataupun that kind of group.
26:50Bila diperkenalkan, baru macam, oh, actually come from BAS punya group ni.
26:54And I'm like, eh, but you can talk politics so much.
26:57You can actually talk about your state, your negeri.
26:59You can talk about, like, the state of your, your, your negeri.
27:02You can talk about, like, what's happening in your community.
27:04Which means that, you know, if you allow our platform, if you allow platform like Moodle to actually penetrate into
27:12this kind of groups,
27:13actually allow them to have also the opportunity to talk about their community or to have a platform to bring
27:20their issues.
27:22That's nice. That's so nice.
27:23I mean, not just nice tau.
27:24I think I perfectly understand.
27:26Yeah, I perfectly understand because some of them, maybe tak ada that opportunity previously.
27:32They don't have the opportunity.
27:33They don't have, like, they don't know where to go.
27:35They do not know, like, where can I salurkan benda ni.
27:38If I have interest in politics, for example, what do I really want to do with it?
27:43You know?
27:44Yeah.
27:44That's so good.
27:45It's so good.
27:46And it's a huge opportunity.
27:47Like, I mean, people tend to tak nampak benda ni because people don't know where to go.
27:52But once you have somebody who you admire and stuff, you can just, boleh jadi macam tu je, kan?
27:56Boleh lah, tapi kena persevere lah.
27:58Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:59Okay.
28:00Alright, okay.
28:01So, um, team BAS.
28:03Are you team BAS?
28:05I'm in position to answer.
28:08Okay, yeah, I'm just joking.
28:09I do a good bye-bye untuk mereka.
28:11I always pray, like, you know, Sadieq and Bella, like, um, whatever, whatever your role is,
28:17relationship, uh, definition is, I always pray the best for both of you lah.
28:21Yeah, I mean, like, you know, force things on people, right?
28:23Yeah, I, I, I, I love them.
28:25I've been, I've been seeing them, so I don't have to buy it to do lah.
28:28Alright, I mean.
28:29Whatever that is.
28:29Okay, let's go towards your, your, your topics pula.
28:32Okay, okay, okay.
28:33Okay, that's all about Sadieq and Bella, okay?
28:36Okay, on your piece.
28:37Okay, I mean, like, you started out at PKR, then you got bersatu.
28:41And then now you're with Muda.
28:43Do you feel that you have found your true space with Muda?
28:48Okay lah, with whatever that is happening right now, um, I just, I'm at the best place
28:54where I can be my best of self lah.
28:56Okay.
28:56Yeah, I mean, that's my first sentence lah.
28:59I'm at, I mean, looking at what they are going through right now.
29:03Yeah.
29:03I know why I left lah.
29:06Okay, betul kan?
29:08Okay, this surely be a controversial.
29:11But I feel like, you know, with yesterday's news, I mean, two, three days news with the
29:159.5 and 19, 9.5 million story.
29:20And then, you know, we were just talking about like how opposition need to be united, all these
29:25things.
29:26And I understand why I am in Muda.
29:29You know, it's a small party, obviously.
29:31When I started, I didn't know that I have to do every single thing.
29:37Yeah, because sebelum ni Kak Pihak Art, it was huge, right?
29:40In Bersatu was very, very short, still lah, sangat-sangat short.
29:43But in Pihak Art, I was eight years there.
29:44Eight, eight years there.
29:45So I know the flow of it, like macam, you know, I've been through most of it.
29:51Tapi, you know, even the party elections and whatnot.
29:54But to be honest, in Muda, what I like about being in Muda is that I can be myself.
30:00Okay.
30:00You know, I can really come out with statements that is really reflecting my own self, ataupun
30:06my own principle, dan juga what the party stands for.
30:10Okay.
30:10I think a lot of like young people wants to have that.
30:13Betul, I agree.
30:14They want to be at a place where they don't contradict with themselves.
30:18Yeah.
30:19And I hope I got my point there, but I really don't want to contradict myself.
30:24Dia contohnya macam kalau kita tak setuju sekali pun when you voice out in meetings and whatnot, right?
30:28But whatever it is, kalau party decide something pun, you know that this is for the benefit of everyone.
30:34You know, we have debated everything in the meeting.
30:38Exhaust all.
30:40Exactly.
30:41So, I hope that this is what the Muda that I am aspiring into, or like, you know, other young
30:49people as well.
30:50Because at the end of the day, people as a whole, not just young people, people as a whole generally,
30:55kan?
30:55They want to see political party that stands for them, you know, that defines them, that talks about them, not
31:02just anything to do internally sahaja.
31:05You know, like, because at the end of the day, why political party is here is because we want to
31:10fight for the people.
31:11We want to be the voice of the people, for the women, for the children who are voiceless.
31:16The problem is that a lot of like political party, kadang-kadang kan, dia terlupa yang we are not just
31:22going to be the voice of our voters.
31:25But we have to be the voice of everyone.
31:28So, bila isu kanak-kanak, for example, kan, it's not sexy, right?
31:31Because dia bukan voter, so people don't want to talk about it.
31:33Oh my God.
31:34Walaupun benda tu rampant.
31:36Yeah.
31:37Yeah.
31:38I absolutely understand what you mean.
31:39Because people want to see themselves reflected in the party, right?
31:43In the party stands.
31:44Orang tak kisah, you bergaduh, apa tu, internally and whatnot ni.
31:48Okay.
31:48But at the end of the day, you know, like, right now, okay, let's talk about right now.
31:52You know, you talk about like, like, the economic issue currently.
31:57What is the expectation?
31:58People are anxious.
32:00You're looking at like Philippines, looking at Thailand right now.
32:03They just got in the emergency Philippines recently.
32:06So, I mean, two days ago, yesterday, yesterday.
32:08So, I feel like that's also important that the government must also address the fact that,
32:12you know, our people will be anxious.
32:14Kerja.
32:15We have gone through a tragic, dramatic COVID time, COVID era, whereby a lot of people lost their job.
32:23Now, I can see when I talk to people, they're not rasa benda tu.
32:27Like, is this coming back?
32:29I kena buang kerja ke?
32:31What is the government's plan and whatnot?
32:33So, I think people are more concerned of livelihoods.
32:36Yes.
32:37Kosar hidup.
32:38You know, benda-semua benda akan naik.
32:40Once minyak is inconsistent, tak ada and whatnot, you know, you know, it will impact the whole ecosystem.
32:48The whole ecosystem berperata, some, five, five, 11.
32:50Like, and the fact that we may go through an election is even scarier.
32:56Imagine going...
32:57Yeah, actually, this is something that not just the government has to think about, like, you know, as opposition juga.
33:03Like, what is our alternative?
33:05Alternative that we can propose, you know?
33:08You know, you know, one thing that I really wish we had was a strong opposition to just do really
33:18good check and balance.
33:20Tapi, kalau nak tunggu Sadiq je yang tukar cakap di parlimen...
33:24Dia sorang-sorang buat tukar parlimen, kan?
33:26But I think that is what we have, we ensure, actually, macam formuda, right?
33:30We have to ensure that Sadiq will be in a position where, you know, you need to keep talking about,
33:37like, the people.
33:38It's not about, like, the party anymore.
33:40Yes, you are representing muda.
33:41But at the end of the day, what does muda represent?
33:44It's the whole of everyone.
33:46So, whatever issues that he will have to bring into parliament is what we also aspire to need to be
33:52said in parliament.
33:54Yeah.
33:54Okay, I think this is the last one before we end.
33:59You are a woman.
34:00Okay.
34:01You are a wife.
34:03Okay.
34:03You are a mom of small children and school-rendah children.
34:08You are also a lawyer.
34:10Yeah.
34:10And you are also, you, not only you are also a lawyer, you also have your own law firm.
34:15And you do, um, happy crew, happy bank, happy bank, um, NGO work lah.
34:21So, and you're also one of the top political positions in the party.
34:27Yeah.
34:27How do you do this?
34:29Oh my God.
34:31Okay, from a millionaire woman to another millionaire woman, please, how do you do it?
34:36Um, well, of course, it's not easy.
34:38Um, it's not easy, you know, I, I think to be very frank today, I can be very frank lah.
34:43I think there's always a conflict in myself whether I should be focusing on my family, on my children, my
34:49growing children who are just like seven, four, and one.
34:53Oh my God.
34:53You know, and the guilt, to be honest, and I totally understand.
34:56Any moms watching this, I know the guilt of having to go out to work.
35:01And then coming back with your children, keep on asking you, um, whether, um, you're going to be at home,
35:08are you going to cook, are you going to be like a mom at home?
35:10But at the end, and then, and then on top of that, um, being somebody who is not just working
35:15outside and also at home, but I also choose to be in a political party,
35:19and not just a normal kind of position, but the position that needed you to be, um, quite a full
35:26time there.
35:27All right.
35:27Um, I think what drives me almost all the time is, um, uh, passion, number one.
35:33Number two is when I think about those who would depend on whatever I see every time.
35:40Which means that, like, you know, there's just so many voiceless people out there.
35:45Every time I feel like giving up, you know, let's be very real.
35:48I, I, I want to give up almost all the time because it's so tiring.
35:52You're a mom, you're also working, you have staff in the office, you also run a political party, um, and
35:59then you also do other things as well.
36:00Well, but when I think about it deeply, I think the reason or, like, the main reason why I am
36:07here is because I've seen or have seen just so many voiceless people,
36:12children, women, you know, people at large who needed your voice to keep on talking about their issues when others
36:20don't actually bother to talk about it.
36:23And I feel like that's my push. That's my urge. And, uh, then I will take away back on my,
36:31like, uh, the, the, the, the, I will reflect back myself and, okay, let's not give up.
36:35Tapi kalau you tak ada, siapa nak buat benda tu, right? You have a feeling that feeling.
36:39I always think that, like, macam kalau I berhenti buat ni, siapa nak buat? I mean, like, I always say
36:43this to Amira, it's like our inside joke.
36:45Um, we always think that we come in a package, because, like, kalau I nak merentang, and macam nak marah
36:50-marah, just tell her, like, you know, and then we will just reflect on each other.
36:53and say that, um, you know what, like, we choose to do this, and we feel like we can give
36:58so much more, you know, and I feel like it's also important.
37:01It's not that I want to be, like, a role model. Tak ada. Dia tak ada pun benda tu.
37:05But I feel like it's important for me to portray to other women, show to other women that, you know,
37:11um, despite being a mom, like, working a class and whatnot,
37:17I think that's also very, very important point that we need to contribute back to the society.
37:23All right? How I contribute back is by making sure that I be in a political party and be the
37:29voice of the people.
37:31You know, there are some people who actually wants to be in CSOs, NGOs, doing, like, the groundwork, which I
37:36do as well.
37:37And I feel like that is your part to do.
37:39And I feel like another, um, um, social responsibility that is very important for all of us, especially for women,
37:46and it's especially that we have super power to actually give back to the community.
37:51And you choose on how you want to give back to the community.
37:53Betul? Betul?
37:54Betul? Okay.
37:55All right. Thank you so much, Haini.
37:57Um, what's your advice last kali for everybody?
38:01Um, I think for me, the most important thing is, um, just do it.
38:06You know, um, just do it.
38:08Whenever you think of something, whenever you feel like you want to do something, just do it.
38:13Start small.
38:14It's okay to start small rather than not starting because you are busy preparing to be perfect, to make it
38:20perfect.
38:21But at the end of the day, just do it even if it's small.
38:25All right. Thank you so much, Haini.
38:26Thank you. Thank you for having me.
38:27I really appreciate you joining us today.
38:29And I hope everybody is inspired.
38:32Everybody now understands better.
38:33You know, we talked about Ruda.
38:35We talked about, uh, third party, eh, third, third government and, um, local elections.
38:40I think everything plays a big role.
38:42And I'm so grateful that Aini's here today to join us and talk about the current issues that we need
38:47to understand and comprehend.
38:49So, thank you so much, Haini.
38:50Thank you. Thank you.
38:51All right. See you guys in the next episode.
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38:57Bye.
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