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00:00Hidden power, secrets, cover-ups, corruption.
00:08You think you know the whole story? Think again.
00:14I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a fighter.
00:21I've heard things that'll blow your mind, and now I think it's time you get the whole story.
00:30Now, the 9-11 conspiracy that was lost in the smoke from the trade towers, the attack on the Pentagon.
00:40Was the U.S. military headquarters really hit by a hijacked jetliner, or was the damage caused by something else?
00:48An airplane causing that kind of damage is just nonsensical.
00:52We should not accept such an explanation.
00:57Jesse Ventura uncovers the clues from the debris outside the Pentagon.
01:03I didn't see any tail. I didn't see any seats.
01:05I saw nothing that resembled an aircraft.
01:08To the survivors inside the Pentagon.
01:12Did you at all see an airplane?
01:15I didn't. To me, it sounded like a bomb.
01:17White-hot issues the mainstream news media won't dare touch.
01:23We have many pilots speaking out, and our media just ignores them.
01:29Censored surveillance footage.
01:31The tapes were confiscated immediately by the FBI.
01:35Phantom phone calls from the jet.
01:38Right now, sir, will it?
01:40My plane has been hijacked. What should I do?
01:43And shocking allegations, the attack was staged to hide a massive Defense Department money scam.
01:51We cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.
01:56And amazingly, that exact place that, quote, plane hit was where all the computers were stored for what Rumsfeld talked
02:05about.
02:28I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory.
02:36Jesse Ventura is inside the Pentagon, one of the most secure buildings in the world.
02:43And on September 11, 2001, the target of a terrorist attack.
02:50Or was it?
02:53The governor is here to dispute the 9-11 Commission's official version of events.
03:00And investigate allegations of an inside job.
03:07And when he doesn't get what he's looking for, he goes straight to the 9-11 Commission's counsel.
03:15Okay, so, Governor, you've asked me a lot of questions that indicate that you do not really believe that 9
03:22-11 happened the way it did.
03:23So, what exactly is your bottom line, and where are you going with this?
03:27My bottom line's the truth.
03:32After all these years, there are still a lot of questions about the 9-11 attacks that haven't even been
03:39asked.
03:42Especially when it comes to the Pentagon.
03:49That's why I followed up on a call from a guy named Charles Lewis.
03:54On September the 11th, he was an inspector for the Los Angeles Building and Safety Department.
04:01Fresh off a bunch of construction jobs at the L.A. International Airport.
04:07And what he witnessed at the airport that morning was more than enough reason to get on the case.
04:17Charlie, let's get right to it.
04:19Give me your story.
04:20What happened to you on September the 11th of 2001?
04:24On that morning, there was quite a bit of activity going on there.
04:28And I was able to hear a great deal of what was being said.
04:31But I discovered that they were aware that LAX was one of the targets.
04:36They seemed to be very upset that of all the air traffic controllers watching those planes,
04:43no one had bothered to notify NORAD.
04:47NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command.
04:51It's the nation's air defense system.
04:55And the word came back that NORAD had indeed been notified, but they were ordered to stand down.
05:02NORAD had been ordered to stand down.
05:06Yes.
05:07Stand down.
05:09That means our air defense system was ordered not to send up fighter jets
05:15to intercept the hijacked planes that were on the loose.
05:20Who gave the order for NORAD to stand down?
05:23The word came back that the order had come from the highest level of the White House.
05:29It couldn't have been George W. Bush who gave the order.
05:33We all know he was in Florida reading the pet goat to a bunch of school kids.
05:38It could only be one man, the vice president, Dick Cheney.
05:43I guess they figured they had to follow orders.
05:47But Charles Lewis' story doesn't end there.
05:51After he got the stand down information,
05:54he heard something else on the high level police radio frequency.
05:59The Pentagon had been hit.
06:02But not by American Airlines Flight 77.
06:07They said that a missile had hit the Pentagon.
06:11Clearly, they said a missile had hit the Pentagon.
06:14Not an airplane, but a missile.
06:16A missile.
06:18I was very surprised by the time that I got home and got the television on
06:22that it had somehow mysteriously changed from a missile to an airplane.
06:27A missile?
06:28A stand down?
06:30There were a lot of rumors and hysteria that day.
06:33But this guy was in on official transmissions.
06:38And he said there was even more evidence.
06:42It was high time we looked into this and find out what the government might be hiding.
06:48The 9-11 commission says Flight 77 took off from Dulles Airport outside of Washington
06:55shortly after the other two planes had already left, the two that hit the tower.
07:01Then it says it turned around and struck the Pentagon at 9.37 a.m.
07:06Right.
07:07Now, that makes sense from the hijackers' point of view that they left right after those other
07:10two planes left because then the crew from Flight 77 wouldn't get word of the New York
07:15attacks in time to stop this new wave of attacks.
07:18But that isn't what our informant's telling us.
07:20This informant told me that he heard radio traffic that talked about a missile.
07:26Wow.
07:28That's insane.
07:29Well, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up.
07:31As crazy and wild as this sounds, I still think we ought to check it out.
07:39There was a lot of evidence and a lot of clues that might help solve the mystery.
07:45Me and my investigators were going to fan out and hit them all.
07:52Coming up, a jet, a missile, or a bomb?
07:58Exclusive FBI video blasts holes in the official story.
08:02The nose of an airplane causing that kind of damage is just nonsensical.
08:08It doesn't make any sense.
08:11Our plane has been hijacked.
08:13Then, a shocking explanation for the phone calls that allegedly came from the doomed flight.
08:19I'll show you a voice more, which is to be able to take a voice and just change it into
08:26another voice.
08:27This sounded urgent on me.
08:29But where does it start?
08:31And later, Jesse Ventura storms a Pentagon official's office and demands answers for you.
08:39I still question why we can't see all the security cameras in film.
08:55Conspiracy theories have only grown in the years since the 9-11 attacks.
09:01Most of the focus has been on the destruction of the World Trade Tower.
09:06The lesser-known story is what really happened at the Pentagon.
09:12Jesse Ventura and his team are out to find evidence of the truths that have been withheld.
09:21I got boots on the ground in Washington.
09:25June was across the Potomac, meeting a 9-11 conspiracy expert.
09:30Matt Sullivan laid out the first evidence of a conspiracy.
09:34Did someone stop fighter jets from intercepting the hijacked airliner?
09:40So, do you think there could have been a stand-down order?
09:43Well, you know, we get that from the Minetta testimony.
09:47Norman Minetta was the transportation secretary at the time of 9-11.
09:50And he testified in front of the 9-11 person.
09:52May 23, 2003, Minetta said he was in the White House underground bunker with Vice President Dick Cheney, while Flight
10:0377 was speeding toward the Pentagon.
10:06And there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, the plane is 50
10:12miles out.
10:13The plane is 30 miles out.
10:15And when he got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the Vice
10:20President, do the orders still stand?
10:24And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, of course the orders still stand.
10:33If Minetta's testimony is correct, that the plane is the one going into the Pentagon, then clearly it must have
10:39been an order not to shoot the plane down because the plane wasn't shot down.
10:42So, did Minetta's testimony ever make it to the 9-11 Commission report?
10:46No, his testimony never appears in the printed report.
10:50But even more interesting, it's been excised from the video record of the 9-11 Commission.
10:56Whoa.
10:58The 9-11 Commission slapped a gag on the transportation secretary for not towing the party line?
11:06And why didn't the military stop the hijacked jet?
11:10Matt Sullivan says the evidence at the scene begins to answer that question.
11:15Maybe a jet never hit the Pentagon at all.
11:20We know something happened at the Pentagon, but we don't know that a plane crashed into it.
11:25There's no big sections, there's no tail sections, there's no fuselage.
11:30It wasn't a jet.
11:33My investigator Daniel was getting the same story from Dwayne Dietz.
11:40Dietz used to be an engineer with NASA.
11:45He demonstrated how the damage at the Pentagon just doesn't add up to a 757.
11:52You would expect a twin-engine transport airplane like the 757.
11:58You would notice the two engine holes.
12:02That would be very prominent from all aircraft accidents that we know of.
12:06Whereas we didn't see two obvious engine holes in the front.
12:12But if I can go to the other end, you can see the damage path when it comes to a
12:17point there.
12:18Yeah.
12:18It's the point on what's called the C-ring of the Pentagon.
12:22At that point, where you would expect the nose of the airplane to be totally disintegrated,
12:29it looks like a very extremely strong and impenetrable item struck it and just blew up the hole.
12:37It doesn't make any sense.
12:39It would have been broken up by that point or would have vaporized by that point.
12:42That's right.
12:43Transport airplanes have got material that is not strong at all in the nose area.
12:48The nose of an airplane going through all that material and then causing that kind of damage is just nonsensical.
12:57So if there's a question about what did or didn't hit the Pentagon, why not go to the videotape?
13:06Every inch outside the Pentagon is covered by security cameras.
13:12An FBI report indicated at least 85 cameras were up and working that morning.
13:19Yeah, there were a lot of cameras around the Pentagon.
13:22If you look at the Pentagon, you can see that there's cameras on each corner.
13:26There's cameras at some of the businesses around the Pentagon.
13:30We know in those cases, the tapes were confiscated immediately by the FBI within hours of the event.
13:35It took five years of lawsuits to force the Defense Department to release just three minutes of footage.
13:45And it all came down to five frames.
13:52Notice anything strange?
13:55No video or photos have ever shown an airliner approaching or hitting the building.
14:02This is what I think happened to mine in towards the Pentagon.
14:06I think it actually pulled up a little bit.
14:09There was a big explosion that we all saw.
14:12And then what happened to the plane?
14:14Well, it continued on somewhere behind this big cloud of black smoke.
14:19Dietz is saying the jetliner flew just above this camera's view.
14:25It never hit the Pentagon.
14:28Something else caused the explosion.
14:32And there's another problem with the official story.
14:36The terrorists didn't have the expertise to fly a high-speed jet into such a low structure.
14:44So said former Air Force pilot Rob Balsamo.
14:48I met him at a small airport in Virginia where the alleged hijacked pilot, Hany Honjor, took flying lessons.
14:57For Hany Honjor, to have this aircraft going 150 knots over its max operating limit is just incredible speeds for
15:07the aircraft.
15:07The vertical speeds are too great to be level across the lawn.
15:14The alleged pilot and the jet couldn't do it?
15:19We were going to have to put this one to the test.
15:23Coming up, inside the flight simulator, proof that no one could have steered Flight 77 into the Pentagon.
15:39Then, was this an inside job by our own defense department?
15:45Jesse Ventura follows the money.
15:48The day before 9-11, Donald Rumsfeld talks about they can't account for $2.3 trillion of Pentagon expenses.
16:00And later, shocking evidence that phone calls from the doomed jet were faked.
16:05He may have been duped by someone pretending to be his wife.
16:20American Airlines Flight 77 left Washington Dulles Airport for Los Angeles at 8.20 a.m. on September 11, 2001.
16:32The Boeing 757 held 58 passengers, four flight attendants, and two pilots.
16:39It veered off course at 8.40 a.m.
16:44Its transponder, which identifies the jet on radar, shut off at 8.56.
16:53The National Transportation Safety Board says the jet hit the Pentagon at 9.37.45 a.m.
17:01But was it even possible for an inexperienced pilot to pull off the maneuver?
17:09Jesse Ventura learns more about the aircraft and the alleged hijacker from pilot Rob Balsamo.
17:17Now we're at the airport where Hanihan Jor supposedly tried to rent an airplane similar to this one.
17:23This one here.
17:24A Cessna once, exactly.
17:24They refused to rent him a 172 because he couldn't control it.
17:27That's unheard of.
17:30Now let me ask you this.
17:32You as a professional pilot, how much more difficult is it to fly a Cessna 172 or a 757 or
17:42767 Boeing jet?
17:44Well, first of all, it's night and day when you look at the cockpit compared to each other.
17:49Hanihan Jor could not control a 757.
17:54Investigator Daniel Kukin is at another airport to meet Captain Rusty Amer.
18:00They'll use a flight simulator to replicate the jet's path to destruction.
18:05Or will they?
18:07So I've flown a tiny bit in the very small planes.
18:11Okay, good.
18:11So your experience is somewhat similar to the alleged hijackers.
18:18From what we know, they even had problems in a small airplane at the fastest, maybe 120 knots.
18:25You're going to speed this up to 500 knots.
18:29Physics don't allow it.
18:31At those speeds, the winds have departed a long time ago.
18:36The surfaces will just rip off.
18:38500 knots is way too much.
18:40The airplane is not designed for that.
18:45The problem with controlling the aircraft on 9-11 is the fact that the aircraft was doing 110 knots over
18:53its max operating limit.
18:55That's why we have so many pilots speaking out, and they're raising their B.S. legs.
19:02Meanwhile, Daniel was at the controls in that 757 flight simulator.
19:08He had as good a chance as anybody of hitting the target.
19:12Okay, you're 311 knots.
19:15You want to go all the way around?
19:16Yeah, because I want to get back towards the city here.
19:18You can feel it right now.
19:20You feel the G-forces?
19:22Yeah.
19:22All right.
19:23Go for it.
19:24Go towards it.
19:24I'm going to increase your speed.
19:26You're 360 knots.
19:28There we go.
19:29You're 424 knots.
19:30And, again, your radius of turn is becoming so great.
19:34Yeah.
19:35You've got to get smart.
19:36Keep it turning.
19:36Keep it turning.
19:37Keep it turning.
19:39Keep it turning.
19:40Now go down.
19:41Dive for it.
19:43There's 500 knots.
19:45Keep it going.
19:46It's very touchy.
19:48I can understand.
19:49Now you're going on your back.
19:51You're going on your back.
19:52Keep it rolling.
19:53Keep it rolling.
19:55You did something, but obviously it was not that building.
20:00So it's your professional opinion that Hanji could not fly that 757 the way the government
20:09told us he did?
20:10Well, it's not even just professional opinion.
20:12It's based on facts and data.
20:14Okay.
20:14Let's pass that.
20:18370 knots.
20:19Oh, come on.
20:20Hang on.
20:21I'm going to get him.
20:21I'm going to get him.
20:25440 knots.
20:27You're going on your back.
20:29I missed him.
20:30I missed again.
20:32There's no denying.
20:33It's incredibly difficult, especially with that turn that the NTSB data set 277 made.
20:39And then he levels off and then pretty much just guns it straight in.
20:42That straight path right in is really incredibly difficult.
20:46Correct.
20:46Correct.
20:47So what do you think?
20:48I couldn't do it.
20:50You couldn't do it.
20:52Not at that speed.
20:53Not at 500 knots.
20:55So if it wasn't a plane that hit the Pentagon, what the hell was it?
21:01I think it's about time we start looking at other possibilities.
21:07Coming up, Jesse uncovers what really caused the damage to the Pentagon.
21:13Shocking accounts from ones who were there.
21:17It sounded like a bomb.
21:18I saw nothing that resembled an aircraft.
21:21Then, what about those phone calls from the doomed flight?
21:25The bizarre, shocking conspiracy theory.
21:28He may have been duped by someone pretending to be his wife.
21:32My plane has been hijacked.
21:34What should I do?
21:36And later, Jesse Ventura confronts a 9-11 commissioner and demands the truth.
21:44Why has all the tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon been confiscated, put in national security?
21:49I have no idea.
22:04Conspiracy theories about the 9-11 attack on the Pentagon exploded on the 5th anniversary when a 9-11 commissioner
22:11slipped up on national television.
22:15There were many times you were afraid, especially when I was standing in front of the Pentagon that night, seeing
22:23one of our fortresses pried open by a missile, an airplane.
22:28Tried open by a missile?
22:34Tried open by a missile?
22:37Something exploded at the Pentagon.
22:39But was it a jetliner?
22:41The only bodies found at the scene were Pentagon employees.
22:45But there's never been evidence of passengers' bodies being recovered from the Pentagon wreckage.
22:52The Flight 77 victims were only identified later at Dover Air Force Base, 104 miles away.
23:03Now, Jesse Ventura's team finds eyewitnesses to confirm expert opinion about the explosion.
23:10People who were outside and inside the Pentagon.
23:17I arrived at a D.C. diner to meet April Gallup.
23:21She was a U.S. Army specialist working inside the Pentagon the morning of 9-11 when something exploded 30
23:29feet from her desk.
23:32And she wasn't alone.
23:34She brought her two-month-old baby to work.
23:38When I went to sit down at the computer, I put my son's stroller right beside me.
23:43As soon as I went to turn on the computer, boom.
23:48A massive explosion.
23:51And this was the plane hitting the Pentagon.
23:54To me, it sounded like a bomb.
23:56It sounded like a bomb.
23:57It sounded like a bomb.
23:59I was covered from here all the way down.
24:02People were saying, help me, save me.
24:04And so I low-crawled out under my elbows.
24:07And I reached over the debris that we were climbing over.
24:10And I pulled up the baby by the lunsie.
24:12And put him over my shoulder.
24:14And he went out, came out of the gaping hole.
24:17I passed out.
24:17So you walked out the hole that the plane supposedly created?
24:24Did you at all see an airplane?
24:27I didn't.
24:28That's why it was really hard for me to believe.
24:33June found even more supporting evidence when she met news cameraman Bob Pugh near the Capitol.
24:41He'd started filming within five minutes of the explosion.
24:45This will be the actual unedited video that I shot that morning.
24:50What's happening here?
24:51This is the first frame I shot.
24:52This was about 100 yards from the impact site or the site of the fire.
24:56Just to stop you a moment.
24:58Yes.
24:58Have you ever been to another plane crash site?
25:01I was at the Air Florida crash in 1980 when it hit the Potomac River when it took off from
25:05Washington National Airport.
25:08And how did that differ from this?
25:10It was identifiable.
25:12I mean, the tail was sticking out of the water.
25:14There was debris.
25:16They actually recovered a lot of the victims still in their seats.
25:19But look how clean the lawn is.
25:22I know.
25:23There is no sign that a plane has been anywhere near this lawn.
25:27I was looking for pieces, anything to identify what I might be looking at.
25:32And I saw nothing.
25:34No luggage, no wheels, no engines.
25:36Nothing that resembled an aircraft.
25:40There is a picture of a hole.
25:42And it's basically the size of a two-car garage.
25:45That hole in the Pentagon was relatively small.
25:49Too small to be made by a 757.
25:52If it looked bigger, it's because of the fire and structure collapse that followed.
25:57I couldn't discern of a mark of the wings as they came in.
26:00I can't logically make that fit with what they tell me happened here.
26:08April Gallup's story picks up in the hospital.
26:12April said that she and her son were recovering from their injuries
26:16when she got a visit from the military brass.
26:20And they asked you what you thought happened.
26:23I said, well, I thought it was a bomb.
26:25And they were like, no, it was this.
26:28Then they corrected you.
26:29When you said it was a bomb, then they informed you, no, it was an airplane.
26:32Exactly.
26:36Have you testified before the 9-11 Commission?
26:39No.
26:39Never been called, never been contacted.
26:41And I don't know of any video that was taken earlier by anyone.
26:47Since 9-11, have you been threatened in any way?
26:51Have you been told to keep your mouth shut?
26:54Don't talk about it.
26:55Yes, I have.
26:55Who does that?
26:56That was my military leaders.
27:01Do you feel threatened today, too?
27:05Yes.
27:07I do.
27:09And you know what?
27:11We're just going to go.
27:14After all these years, April Gallup still fears the government is out to silence her.
27:22For good reason.
27:25She filed a lawsuit against the government,
27:29claiming Flight 77's black boxes will indicate the jet passed over the Pentagon
27:35amid an explosion and fireball from a planted bomb.
27:39Bombs and or missile.
27:43The FBI said the boxes were recovered.
27:47But get this.
27:49The government says their cockpit voice recorders were badly damaged, useless, convenient.
27:58April, be careful.
28:02This conspiracy was looking all too obvious.
28:06But there was one more loose end to clear up.
28:10Look, there was at least one phone call made from that jet while it was happening.
28:18Coming up, an amazing accusation.
28:21Evidence that phone calls from the jet could have been faked.
28:25This is called a morph.
28:26A morph is where it goes from one voice to the other voice.
28:30This song is urgent, all right.
28:32Then, a monstrous motive.
28:34Was the attack planned as part of a Pentagon plot to cover up trillions of missing dollars?
28:40Anyways, you're putting planes into the World Trade Center to send us off to war.
28:46Why wouldn't we add a little icing to the cake?
28:48We got some major troubles in the Pentagon that we got to account for.
28:53And later, the governor storms into the Pentagon
28:56and demands the truth from a member of the 9-11 Commission.
29:01I'm not sure if you just think the 9-11 Commission was duped.
29:05Oh, no.
29:06I think the 9-11 Commission was duped.
29:17To me, it sounded like a bomb.
29:21I just spoke with a lady named April Gallup.
29:24She worked right where this happened in the Pentagon.
29:30And she was there that day.
29:32She even walked out the damn hole that was created by the plane.
29:38And she doesn't recall seeing one thing that indicated the plane had crashed there.
29:45Yet, we're supposed to believe government people that weren't even there?
29:50Look, there was at least one phone call made from that jet while it was happening.
29:55There were passengers on that plane that had this experience.
29:58These real people were talking about, not just an abstraction, not just an idea.
30:04Flight 77 disappeared from radar for 28 minutes before the Pentagon was hit.
30:10The only evidence the jet was still airborne
30:12came from phone calls allegedly placed from inside.
30:17George W. Bush's Solicitor General, Ted Olson,
30:20says he received two calls from his wife, Barbara.
30:27But that story is about to be disputed, disproven, and exposed as a cruel ploy.
30:35We have a problem with an impossible call that didn't happen.
30:39Dr. A. K. Dudeney speaks to Investigator June Sarpong from Ontario, Canada.
30:46He's a noted computer scientist.
30:48He conducted tests proving that cell phone calls could not have been made from the jet.
30:55It flew too fast and too high to connect with any cell towers.
31:00There couldn't have been cell phone calls.
31:02In fact, within a few days of 9-11, Olson changed his story to say that it was the back
31:07of the seat phone.
31:08Were there even passenger seat phones on Flight 77?
31:11A meticulous researcher noticed on the American Airlines website
31:16that the 757 equipment was not equipped with back of the seat, or air phones, as they call them.
31:22And then later on, at the Masui trial in 2006,
31:25an FBI source reported to the court that, in fact,
31:29Ted Olson received no cell phone calls from his wife,
31:32except possibly one in which the connection time was zero seconds.
31:38Zero seconds?
31:40That would mean no conversation at all.
31:44We have a pretty big contradiction because we've got Olson claiming that she told him
31:48that there are Arab hijackers with box cutters on board,
31:52and we've got the FBI saying, no, that call didn't happen.
31:56Wow.
31:57Is this guy saying Ted Olson lied about his wife's last words?
32:01I prefer to believe that Olson is telling the truth,
32:04that he may have been duped by someone pretending to be his wife.
32:10What kind of technology would be needed to fake a phone call?
32:14Better yet, how could a guy not know what his own wife sounds like?
32:20So you're a forensic scientist.
32:24Yes.
32:25Turns out, it's easy.
32:27Daniel was getting a first-hand demonstration from forensic audio technician Kent Gibson.
32:33I need to be able to call you and make you think that it's a friend of yours calling or
32:38a relation,
32:39even though it's me.
32:40Well, cell phones have many opportunities for extraneous noise,
32:44which is really the way you hide anything.
32:46Like crackling or static?
32:47Yeah, because that's natural in a cell phone.
32:50First up, creating a voice on a computer and making it sound human.
32:55What would you like for me to type?
32:57My plane has been hijacked.
32:59What should I do?
33:00A man or a woman?
33:02Man.
33:03Okay, let's try it.
33:04My plane has been hijacked.
33:06What should I do?
33:08Right, now let's see a woman.
33:10My plane has been hijacked.
33:12What should I do?
33:14I've got another machine over here, which is a little different.
33:17This time, the guy took my voice and made it his.
33:22This is called a morph.
33:24A morph is where it goes from one voice to the other voice.
33:27That's a morph from me to Jesse and back.
33:30This sounded urgent, all right.
33:32But where do we start?
33:33This sounded urgent, all right.
33:35But where do we start?
33:37It's easy to see how they could take any voice and make it sound like Olson's wife.
33:43This sounded urgent, all right.
33:45But where do we start?
33:48There's no question that there are some serious, serious problems
33:52with the interpretation given to the events of 9-11 by the White House.
33:57So if it wasn't Al-Qaeda terrorists who hit the Pentagon, who did?
34:02And what was the motive?
34:04I'd found it was more than a missile, more than a bomb.
34:08There was real speculation that this was an inside job.
34:13Okay, so what reason did you guys come up with for the Pentagon to attack its own headquarters?
34:17Well, it's simple.
34:18Do you believe a theory that the Bush administration wanted a pretext to go to war in Iraq?
34:23Now, let's take it a step further.
34:26The day before 9-11, on the 10th of September, Donald Rumsfeld holds a press conference
34:33and talks about they can't account for $2.3 trillion of Pentagon expenses.
34:40According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.
34:46And amazingly, the exact place that, quote, plane hit was where all the computers and data were stored at
34:55for what Rumsfeld talked about.
34:57Yeah, it's unthinkable, until you think about it.
35:00More than records were lost in the impact area.
35:04One Army office lost 34 of its 65 employees.
35:08The office was called Resource Services Washington.
35:11The victims were at their desks.
35:13Most were civilians, bookkeepers, accountants, budget analysts,
35:17the folks who'd know most about a cover-up and who was stealing the money.
35:22What does Rumsfeld have to say about that?
35:24Nothing.
35:25We've tried to contact his office on multiple occasions, and we get no answer.
35:29I've served in the military.
35:31There would be one room that they would keep all this stuff.
35:35There would be multiple dots there that need to be connected.
35:37And I can connect them.
35:39It's an extension of the original op.
35:43Getting two for one.
35:46You're putting planes into the World Trade Center to send us off to war.
35:50Wait a minute.
35:51Let me finish.
35:52To send us off to war, on top of it, why wouldn't we add a little icing to the cake?
35:58We got some major troubles in the Pentagon.
36:01If we send a missile in there and blow it up, no one will ever talk about that September 10th
36:08press conference again.
36:09And am I not right on that?
36:10It was time to visit the Pentagon and hit the government with the evidence.
36:17Coming up, the governor marches into the Pentagon and confronts a member of the 9-11 Commission.
36:25The day before 9-11, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld reports that they have simply lost $2.3 trillion.
36:34Do you recall that, the day before 9-11?
36:38No.
36:39The day before 9-11?
36:49Was the 9-11 attack on the Pentagon an inside job?
36:54With Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld implicated in the conspiracy,
37:00Jesse Ventura charges into the U.S. Defense Headquarters to demand the truth.
37:10I made my way through security.
37:13I met the Defense Department escorts trying to lead me to a PR flack.
37:19Not interested.
37:21I wanted to see the impact site.
37:24This is where the records for that missing $2.3 trillion were kept.
37:30This is where all the financial people were killed.
37:36This is the angle right where the plane allegedly came in at.
37:40There was a security camera in the parking lot, just to the right.
37:43There was a security camera on the far end of the building that caught the aircraft as it came in.
37:51This guy's just spouting 9-11 Commission script.
37:54The only video they've released doesn't show a jet at all.
38:00I still question why we can't see all the security cameras.
38:04I don't understand why we're not allowed to see them.
38:08A jet, a missile, a bomb.
38:11All the evidence has been swept away and papered over.
38:15I needed to talk to a member of the 9-11 Commission.
38:18Find out why these questions never made it to the official 9-11 report.
38:25Janice Kephart was Commission counsel.
38:28Her name's on the report.
38:30Let her defend it.
38:33One thing that troubled me greatly was the fact that the day before 9-11,
38:40Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has a press conference where he reports that they have simply lost $2.3 trillion.
38:48They don't have receipts for it.
38:50They don't know where it went.
38:51Do you recall that, the day before 9-11?
38:54Well, if you don't, that's what happened.
38:56According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.
39:02And how ironic that the exact place that was struck in the Pentagon was where all those records were supposedly
39:09had to be.
39:11Now all destroyed.
39:12So I guess the $2.3 trillion, we as taxpayers just say, c'est la vie.
39:19Now isn't that a bit much?
39:22I have no idea.
39:24Why has all the tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon been confiscated, put in national security, and we're not
39:30allowed to view the plane hitting the Pentagon?
39:32And don't come back with me and say, but they did.
39:35You saw that little flash of five frames.
39:41I have no idea.
39:44Well, you know, the government...
39:46It's very Warren Commission-ish.
39:48The government has a tremendous propensity for secrecy.
39:52And the Defense Department and others do as well.
39:57You believe that?
39:59The lawyer admits our government's still hiding the truth from you and me.
40:04There was no rubble outside.
40:07All there was was a hole.
40:09What happened to where the wings hit?
40:12Ask that question to our 9-11 Commission staffer, who was the only survivor from that room who made it
40:19out.
40:19I did talk to April Gallop, who was actually inside the room in the Pentagon, and she looked me in
40:27the eye and told me unequivocally, I saw nothing that indicated a plane hit the Pentagon.
40:33I felt that a bomb had exploded.
40:37Their witnesses could always have different versions of different things.
40:42Okay, so, Governor, you've asked me a lot of questions that indicate that you do not really believe that 9
40:49-11 happened the way it did.
40:50So what exactly is your bottom line, and where are you going with this?
40:53My bottom line's the truth.
40:56I mean, I'm not sure if you just think the 9-11 Commission was duped, or if you think 9
41:01-11 Commission was part of the problem.
41:03Oh, no, I think the 9-11 Commission was duped.
41:06I don't think you got all the information.
41:09I think information was withheld from you all.
41:12Much the same as the Warren Commission and the murder of John Kennedy.
41:17Tons of information was withheld.
41:20And that's what it gets down to, the 9-11 Commission itself.
41:25Janice Kephart told me it was under a time crunch, underfunded, not allowed to include dissenting opinions, and got no
41:35cooperation from the White House.
41:38We only had to do subpoenas in a couple different areas.
41:41Subpoenas would be required in this investigation.
41:44Why would someone in government not want to come and tell you what they know, when 3,000 people were
41:51murdered that day?
41:52Because it's always about protection of the institution in the end.
41:55Wow.
41:57That's really eye-opening for me as an American citizen, to learn that protecting the institution is more important than
42:05learning the truth.
42:07It'll take more than a 400-page report to put these conspiracy theories to rest.
42:13And you know what's worse?
42:15The people behind the conspiracy.
42:18Behind the cover-up.
42:19They're still running our government.
42:22Still lying.
42:24Still hiding the truth.
42:29Was it a missile that hit the Pentagon?
42:32Was it a bomb?
42:33Or was it what they told us?
42:36It's been almost 10 years.
42:38And I wouldn't be asking these questions if the government would play straight with us.
42:43If they have the footage from all those surveillance cameras, let us see it.
42:48If there was no stand-down order, prove it.
42:52And don't question my patriotism, because I'm looking for answers.
42:57One thing I've learned, if you don't hold their feet to the fire, everybody gets burned.
43:04I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory.
43:08And this is Conspiracy Theory.
43:35And, of course, that's the first thing I wanted whether it's triggering all that.
43:35You don't know, I've never renowned with something more gimmick.
43:35You don't understand the students who physically may have to rely on you?
43:35Oh, so I'm saying, the volume.
43:35You may have reached out for blackcyclide.