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TORRES GEMELAS - 911 - 11-9-2001 - JESSE VENTURA
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00:01Hidden Power
00:03Secrets
00:04Cover-Ups
00:05Corruption
00:09You think you know the whole story?
00:12Think again
00:15I've been Governor
00:16A Navy Seal
00:20A Fighter
00:21I've heard things that'll blow your mind
00:25And now I think it's time you get the whole story
00:28Now Jesse steps into America's most controversial conspiracy
00:33The attacks of 9-11
00:35If everything they told us was true
00:37Then why would they need to stonewall us?
00:41Was the official 9-11 report a whitewash and cover-up?
00:47These people are lying to us
00:50Did the terrorists use more than jetliners to do their devastating damage?
00:56There's residues of explosives in the dust
00:59Is the FBI hiding the flight recorders they say have never been recovered?
01:04The odds of not finding these black boxes are
01:07Almost zero
01:09And was ground zero a crime scene
01:12That Washington obliterated in plain sight?
01:16There's something about 9-11
01:18Our government doesn't want us to know
01:21These are questions that few have dared to ask
01:25Let alone investigate
01:26It was a false flag attack
01:29On America by Americans
01:31The unthinkable
01:33The all too real
01:37The 9-11 conspiracy
01:39Just cut it off
01:41I'm Jesse Ventura
01:43And this is Conspiracy Theory
01:53Jesse Ventura cares deeply about his country
01:56But no event did more to shake his beliefs
02:00Than the attacks of September 11, 2001
02:04Now he leads a raid on the hangar
02:07Where evidence from ground zero is hidden
02:10He's on a mission for the truth
02:16Get up here
02:20This is what they don't want me to see
02:27With 9-11
02:28Some things just never added up for me
02:32Why weren't those jetliners brought down?
02:35Why did the buildings go down so quickly?
02:38I knew this investigation was going to get some people pretty angry
02:42But I also knew
02:44I owed this one to the victims
02:54It all began
02:56When I got a call from Donna Marsh O'Connor
02:59She lost her daughter
03:01On September the 11th
03:02Vanessa Langer worked in the Trade Center
03:05She was four months pregnant
03:08I don't want to bring up a lot of pain
03:11Please, you know, I want to make this really clear
03:15When you say when 9-11 ended
03:16I don't
03:17It still didn't
03:18It still didn't end for me
03:20We'll never end for the country
03:21As long as we don't investigate what exactly happened
03:24We never had an investigation
03:27And my kid is a victim of the second plane?
03:33Why would I not ask questions?
03:36I'm not a scientist
03:37But all I want is for someone to validate the questions
03:42And have every American citizen exposed to the questions
03:46Donna O'Connor made it very clear
03:49That she and other 9-11 survivors
03:52Are not satisfied with the official answers
03:56Uncovering the truth
03:57Exposing the lies will only ease the pain
04:01That was good enough for me
04:04Donna, thank you
04:06Bye, Governor
04:08Keep working hard
04:10We need you
04:12The investigation moves to the banks of the Hudson River
04:15Under an empty sky where the World Trade Towers once loomed
04:19The Governor meets the last man out of the last tower to fall
04:23You see that peak over there?
04:26Where the round one is?
04:27Yes, correct
04:28Right there
04:28Right in front, yes
04:29Okay
04:30William Rodriguez was a maintenance worker at No. 2 World Trade Center
04:34He has a story that not only contradicts the official 9-11 account
04:39But shakes it to its very foundation
04:41At 846, while we're talking in front of the office
04:45We hear, bah!
04:46An explosion very loud
04:48Which was upwards
04:50Upwards?
04:51Upwards
04:51All the walls shaped
04:52They cracked
04:54The full ceiling fell on top of us
04:56The sprinkler system got activated
04:58Water started spewing everywhere
05:01Everybody's screaming in horror
05:02Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god
05:04Now, was this a result from the plane hitting?
05:08No, no, no
05:08This is before the plane hitting the tower
05:10So this explosion
05:12Came from below
05:13But the first thing that I thought was that it came from the mechanical room
05:16That was on the basement number 2
05:19I went to say, you know
05:20It may be
05:21When we hear, bah!
05:23All the way on the top of the building
05:24And I speculated that it was the plane hitting the tower
05:26So, these two explosions were completely separate?
05:31Completely separate
05:31The official 9-11 story says hijacked jets brought down the towers
05:36Not explosive devices
05:38If you can remember, how much time would you say was between the two explosions?
05:45Six to seven seconds difference
05:46That close?
05:47That close
05:48And I wasn't the only one that felt this
05:50There were the 14 people inside the office
05:52Did all you people tell this to the 9-11 commission?
05:56I testified for the 9-11 commission behind closed doors
05:59Why behind closed doors?
06:01Well, my speculation was that they didn't want the story to be out
06:05How does the last man out get left out of the 9-11 commission report?
06:11We've definitely got the makings of a conspiracy
06:18The governor arrives at his war room
06:20Where his elite team of investigators and researchers is at the ready
06:24He was there the day that the towers were hit
06:29And William swears up and down
06:31This is the intriguing part
06:33That an explosion took place below them
06:36About six to eight seconds before anything happened way up above
06:41Below?
06:42Below
06:42Why come out now?
06:44What's he getting from this?
06:45Come out now?
06:46He was brought in front of the 9-11 commission
06:48They took him in a private room
06:50He testified for 30 minutes
06:52And today there's no record of him even being there
06:55Any chance he's not in the record because his story doesn't check out?
06:58His story contradicts the official story
07:01Alex pretty severely, doesn't it?
07:03But even if you...
07:04Bombs going off below
07:05Well, if you don't want that out to the public
07:08Why would you acknowledge William Rodriguez in any way, shape or form?
07:11To just deny or not even acknowledge that the guy testified?
07:14Come on, that's all shady
07:15And they wouldn't call you to testify unless you had something credible to say
07:19We're going to check out William Rodriguez
07:21Now get me somebody else
07:23Okay, we are going to look at Stephen Jones
07:26He's a former physics professor from Brigham Young University
07:29Now he analyzed dust samples from September 11th
07:33And says that he found explosive residue in it
07:38Really?
07:39As soon as he published his findings
07:41He was forced to leave his post at Brigham Young
07:44No kidding?
07:45No
07:45So he was effectively fired
07:47Alex, get on a plane
07:48Get up to Salt Lake City
07:49Interview Professor Jones
07:51Find out anything you can about this
07:53You got it
08:00Utah
08:01Investigator Alex Piper meets Professor Stephen Jones
08:05A physicist whose conclusions about 9-11 proved to be highly explosive
08:10I, just within a couple days, had angry emails
08:15And particularly from an engineer
08:19Identified himself as a consultant with Homeland Security
08:24Saying that if I publish this, the pain would be great
08:29Professor Jones says
08:31Evidence shows the Twin Towers were brought down by explosives
08:35The first clue was what happened to another building in the Trade Center complex
08:39Number 7 was never hit by a plane
08:42But it collapsed the same way as the ones that were
08:47The official story for Building 7
08:49The plane is it was due to fire
08:51Well, it just didn't add up
08:54I mean, in terms of the speed and the completeness of the collapse
08:59Explosives, on the other hand, explained it handily
09:01But explosives mean someone had access to this building
09:06We're not talking now about Al-Qaeda
09:08This is a highly secure building
09:10So I did some checking on Building 7
09:127 World Trade Center was a 47-story office building
09:16Among its tenants, the Department of Defense
09:19The Secret Service
09:20And the CIA
09:22Not the easiest place to plant a bomb
09:27You're not going to have Al-Qaeda running in there
09:29Planting explosives to bring that down in that way
09:32Then we started looking at the dust
09:34We've all seen that dust
09:35That produced as the towers came down
09:37Building 7 also produced this enormous dust cloud
09:40It was in that dust that Professor Jones
09:43Made the very startling discovery
09:46There's a residue of explosive
09:49In this World Trade Center dust
09:52The presence of explosive residue
09:54Was never mentioned in the official report
09:56So do you believe that there was controlled demolition
09:59Used not only in World Trade Center 7
10:01But also in Buildings 1 and 2 as well?
10:03Yes
10:03Yes, I do
10:05We do have good evidence for the use of explosives
10:09Sure, they were hit by planes
10:10I'm not challenging that
10:12But I'm saying that's not the full story
10:14Because there's residues of explosives in the dust
10:18Professor Jones claims the residue is a substance called superthermite
10:23A combination of powdered iron oxide and aluminum
10:26When ignited, it burns at 2,500 degrees Celsius
10:31Much hotter than jet fuel
10:33It's a liquid when it's wet
10:37And it can actually be painted on
10:38I mean, these guys might actually have thought they were just painting
10:42When you're painting with it, it's safe
10:44It's really quite remarkable stuff
10:46When it dries, it's a high explosive
10:48The professor has offered one very frightening scenario
10:52But is it a plausible explanation that supports William Rodriguez
10:56Who heard the explosions down below?
11:00Coming up, the superthermite theory is put to the test
11:07Then, Jesse Ventura heads to ground zero
11:10In search of that explosive residue
11:13The main focus going on that day was to get rid of every shred of evidence
11:18And later, he finds new evidence of a 9-11 cover-up
11:22You saw the black boxes at some point
11:25They had found one that I know of
11:28That I actually physically saw
11:43Jesse Ventura is investigating the 9-11 conspiracy
11:47And it claimed that the World Trade Towers
11:49Were brought down by an explosive substance called superthermite
11:54Sure, they were hit by planes
11:56But I'm saying that's not the full story
11:57Because there's residues of explosives in the desk
12:06People, did we find anybody who can back up Professor Jones' findings?
12:11Yes, we did
12:12We contacted the research lab at New Mexico Tech
12:15And they've agreed to conduct an experiment using superthermite
12:19Right, this is Van Romero
12:21He's one of their top researchers
12:22And he's going to do the test
12:24Hello, Governor
12:25My name is Van Romero
12:26And I understand you have some questions about superthermite
12:29Well, let's do an experiment
12:30The first step in the experiment is to make the liquid superthermite
12:33We mix it in with the paint
12:34And then we have our superthermite liquid paint
12:37Once we make the mixture in the lab
12:39We take it out into the field to do the test
12:45Before we apply superthermite to a beam
12:47Let's take a beam without superthermite on it
12:49And subject it to a fire
12:51Three, two, one, fire
12:57As you can see, fire burns
12:59And the beam slowly heats up
13:02The beam burns briefly
13:04But it does not melt
13:07Now let's paint the superthermite onto the metal beam
13:10Subject it to a fire
13:12See what happens
13:12Fire
13:16As we expected
13:17The beam of the thermite is burning much brighter
13:19It's a much hotter fire than we had before
13:21So the temperature is going to rise
13:24In this beam
13:25More than it would in the beam without the thermite
13:27Does it burn long enough and hot enough
13:30So that we have structural failure?
13:37All right
13:39Anybody still got any doubts, Alex?
13:42I do
13:43I mean, listen
13:44It's one thing to say that this thing can be liquefied
13:46And used as paint
13:47It's another thing to say that it was used at the World Trade Center site
13:50Rodriguez told me construction was a daily thing there
13:55Yeah
13:55That every floor when a tenant moved out
13:57Construction took place
13:59What happens then?
14:00Painting
14:00And painters could be painting this stuff on
14:03And not even know it
14:06Imagine if this stuff was painted on buildings in New York
14:10Boston
14:12Washington, D.C.
14:14All over the country
14:16That stuff could be everywhere
14:18Holy word
14:22After seeing that
14:24There was only one place to go next
14:27I headed to Ground Zero
14:30I didn't expect to find any super thermite
14:33But I also didn't expect to find so many victim survivors
14:37Still looking for answers
14:40My name is Manny Padillo
14:41Hi Manny
14:42I lost my uncle
14:43I'm 9-11
14:43Thomas Joseph Sproy
14:45I really appreciate what you're doing right now
14:47Because we need as many people as possible
14:49Knowledge is power
14:51You know, you've said that
14:53And what it comes down to is
14:54People need to know what happened here
14:56What really upset me about this so-called investigation
14:58My son's murder
14:59All these family members
15:00They're murder
15:01Right
15:02And people had said within that commission
15:05We're not here to place blame
15:07Now just think of yourself as a parent
15:08Losing a son
15:09And a police commissioner says
15:11We're not here to place blame
15:12When they said that
15:13My response was
15:15Well then what are you for?
15:16You know
15:16We can talk about these buildings
15:18Tower 7 falling down
15:19You know
15:20Most people don't even know
15:21Tower 7 came down
15:22I know
15:23These people are lying to us
15:27Jesse makes his way closer to the scene of the crime
15:30He's hoping to get into the Ground Zero site
15:32Maybe find some remnants of the original steel
15:35That he can bring back for testing
15:38You can walk in there and they'll tell you to shut this off
15:41But the police guard won't let him closer than a view of the new Freedom Tower
15:45Built to withstand impact from above and below
15:50How did they build this building any different than the first one so that this one don't collapse if it
15:56catches on fire which I don't fully believe
15:59If you look up from the street level
16:02Yeah
16:02Straight up to about maybe seven stories high you see the difference
16:05All of that is steel and concrete encasement
16:08Okay
16:09Which is different
16:10Which different
16:10From the original
16:11The original building
16:12All of these buildings are being built with the same technology
16:16The forced and reinforced steel and concrete structures
16:21Normal cement walls maybe 12 to 18 inches
16:24This is like three feet thick
16:26The new buildings would withstand the heat from jet fuel or super thermite
16:31But the original steel
16:32It was long gone
16:35Most of it shipped out and recycled
16:38This crime scene had been destroyed a long time ago
16:45The end result is this
16:47The government knowingly has destroyed all the evidence
16:52Anything that's because they're covering it up
16:54Why else
16:55Give me an example of why they would change basic police investigation
17:00The logic is that people didn't want to have to look at that eyesore
17:04Okay, all right
17:04And remind themselves of what happened on that day
17:07I'll give that to you
17:08But then why did it all have to be destroyed?
17:10Couldn't they have removed it and taken it to another spot
17:13So that then it could be investigated?
17:15No
17:15The main focus going on that day was to get rid of every shred of evidence
17:20Melt it down
17:22Build Navy ships out of it
17:25Ship it off to China
17:26Anything they could do with the remains out there
17:29They did it
17:29It would have taken a mere two to three hours to check for demolition
17:33The visit to Lower Manhattan does pay off when Jesse Ventura meets a Ground Zero rescue worker
17:39Mike Ballone says he witnessed a 9-11 cover-up
17:43The recovery of the black box flight recorders from the attack jetliners
17:48The 9-11 commission report says the boxes were never found
17:52Jesse arranges to meet with Ballone away from the scene
17:56To my knowledge, they've never ever not been able to find the black boxes before
18:01They're supposedly pretty much indestructible
18:03Now if they went through the debris to the point where they could find small bone fragments
18:08DNA test it and match it up to victims
18:11How could they miss these big yellow striped boxes that everyone and their uncle would be looking for?
18:19Jesse and his team arrive at Mike Ballone's home in upstate New York
18:23Ballone was a volunteer at Ground Zero
18:26He did recovery and rescue work for 257 straight days
18:30On one of those days, he says he witnessed something he wasn't supposed to see
18:36From the very day that 9-11 happened, you were there every day
18:41Right
18:41And you were there the day that you saw the black boxes at some point
18:48Was it night time that that happened?
18:50Uh, yes
18:50It was night time
18:52So at how many days in?
18:54Did you have any idea?
18:55I would say the end of September to the beginning of October
18:58Somewhere around there
18:59So literally
19:00About three or four weeks
19:01Three to four weeks after the collapse
19:03The particular night you're there working
19:05And take us through what happened that night
19:09The night of the black boxes
19:11Uh, Nick
19:12Who was the other ATV man
19:15The FBI was loading all their
19:18Telesponders and all their fancy equipment
19:20Onto the back of his rig
19:22And these are the things that will locate the black box?
19:25Yes
19:25These are the type of devices that will locate the locators
19:28He was to escort these FBI agents into the area so they can look for the boxes
19:35They had found one that I know of that I actually physically saw
19:42And when he was finished he came back and told me that he had they had found two more
19:47You actually saw one
19:49I actually physically saw one
19:50And Nick told you that they found two more for a total of three of the four
19:54Yes
19:54Okay
19:56And the FBI looked pretty happy about it
20:00And, uh, that was the last I saw of it
20:04What was your response when the 9-11 commission that they said that no black boxes were found?
20:10Because their official position is that there were no black boxes discovered at the trade centers
20:16None of the four
20:18And I started getting a lot of phone calls
20:20From a lot of different people
20:22Like?
20:22I had, uh, I had a visit from an FBI agent that said I should discuss the matter
20:28And I asked him why
20:29And he says, well, it's just, uh, it's something that we really shouldn't discuss right now
20:34You really shouldn't talk about it
20:36You guys know what we saw
20:38Yeah, we know what we saw
20:39We know what we did
20:41What would cause Mike Ballone to tell a lie?
20:44I don't think he is lying
20:45I think that that's exactly what happened
20:47This is why we've got to pursue this
20:50We have to
20:55Still ahead
20:55Have the black boxes really been found?
20:58I said, so how many of these boxes did they actually ever find?
21:02And he said, do you want the real answer or the official answer?
21:08Then, Jesse Ventura storms the building where the evidence is hidden
21:12Get up here!
21:15This is what they don't want me to see
21:18And later, he confronts the FBI
21:21Many times the left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing
21:24Absolutely
21:35Jesse Ventura's conspiracy team focuses on the flight recorders
21:39From the two jetliners that crashed into the World Trade Towers
21:42According to the 9-11 Commission
21:44Those black boxes, and all the crucial information they held
21:48Were never recovered
21:49According to Ground Zero volunteer Mike Ballone
21:52The FBI found at least three
21:54You actually saw one
21:56I actually physically saw one
21:58And Nick told you that they found two more for a total of three of the four?
22:01Yes
22:04Investigator Alex Piper still has his doubts
22:07But Ballone's story leads him to Dale Leppard
22:10Leppard has been a commercial airline pilot for five decades
22:13And he's the expert in aviation accident investigation
22:17So in your 48 years in the industry
22:20Have you ever been to a scene or heard of a scene
22:24Where the black boxes were not recovered?
22:26No, sir, I have not
22:28Never once?
22:29Never once, no
22:30Were you surprised when you heard that none of the four black boxes were found from the World Trade Center
22:34site?
22:35Yes, I was
22:36I was quite surprised
22:37I mean, it was a big mess there, let's face it
22:40But these things are very distinctive
22:43They're a bright orange color
22:45And they're very easy to see
22:46What are they built of?
22:48Usually steel or titanium
22:50They're practically indestructible
22:51They're designed to withstand the temperature of fuel in an aircraft that's burning is about 1,100 degrees Celsius
22:59Which is about 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit
23:01So the odds of going to an accident scene and not finding these black boxes are
23:07Almost zero
23:11The odds get even slimmer after the governor tracks down Dave Lindorf in the Pennsylvania mountains
23:17Lindorf is a respected, award-winning investigative journalist
23:20He has his own black box story to tell
23:24I'm talking with one of the people at the NTSA, National Transportation Safety Administration
23:30Which is the place that investigates these boxes
23:32And I said, so how many of these boxes did they actually ever find?
23:36And he said, do you want the real answer or the official answer?
23:41Of course I want the real answer
23:43And he said, well then that has to be off the record
23:44I said, fine, so what's the deal?
23:46And he said, well, the real answer is we got all four of them
23:51And that they're now in the possession of the FBI
23:53Which took them away from us
23:55He said, if you want the official answer
23:56Call the public relations office at the NTSA and ask them
23:59Which I did, and they said we never got them
24:01And I called the FBI and got the official answer too
24:04Which is the answer that they gave to the 9-11 Commission
24:07Which is that they weren't recovered
24:09They always find the black boxes
24:11They found the TWA one in the middle of the ocean
24:14And here they were finding, you know, fingernail shaving sized pieces of bone
24:20To identify bodies in the World Trade Center
24:23And they didn't find these four, you know, they're this big
24:25These big orange metal boxes, painted orange
24:29No, it's not possible
24:33Look, people
24:34These black boxes were made to withstand nearly anything
24:38Now you're telling me they can't find them
24:41When they went through this debris with a fine-tooth comb
24:44And you're going to tell me that they wouldn't find these black boxes
24:47Even if they were charred, burnt and melted
24:49Of course they would
24:51What are the black boxes going to tell us that we don't already know?
24:53The hijackers were in the cockpit
24:55And the planes crashed into the buildings
24:56Alex, are you kidding me?
24:58They tell us everything
24:59They will tell us what the hijackers were saying
25:01Who they said it to
25:02Were they receiving transmitted instructions from the ground
25:05What language they were speaking in
25:07Might even go as far as to tell us how these lousy pilots
25:10Were able to fly commercial airlines
25:12Into the World Trade Center like they were stunt planes
25:15Where do they stash them?
25:17Well, a lot of the evidence from 9-11 is stored at a hangar at JFK
25:21Hangar 17
25:22We asked permission to go in
25:23And they wouldn't let us in even without our cameras
25:26And they wonder why there's conspiracy theories
25:30Let's get on this one, people
25:33Coming up, Jesse Ventura shifts into combat mode
25:37For an assault on Hangar 17
25:39Unauthorized personnel prohibited beyond this point
25:42Let's see if we all get arrested
25:46Then, the black box mystery takes a wild turn
25:50Just cut it off
25:53And later, shocking accusations about who was behind the 9-11 conspiracy
25:58It was a false flag attack on America by Americans
26:14Jesse Ventura's conspiracy team has found enough overlooked and hidden reasons
26:19To ask even more questions about the events of 9-11
26:23Now, Jesse is in stealth mode at John F. Kennedy Airport
26:28This is where much of the remaining evidence from ground zero is stored
26:33That evidence
26:35Could hold many answers
26:41This is the infamous Hangar 17
26:44This is a place where we've contacted on multiple, multiple occasions
26:49To go inside and see what they have inside this building
26:53Because there are remnants from September the 11th in there
27:05I'd like to see them lift that door so we could see what would be beyond that maybe
27:09No access to that
27:20This is what they don't want me to see
27:22This is what they don't want me to see
27:23We've tried to get in this building
27:24We can't even get in it now
27:25The door's locked
27:26You can see girders
27:28Obviously from the 9-11 site
27:31Were they tested for super thermite?
27:33I doubt it
27:34Look at all that dust
27:36That's where they'd find it
27:38Why won't they give us access to this building?
27:42What is the reason for it?
27:45There's no way in
27:46The contents of Hangar 17 remain sealed
27:50But the investigation has only begun
27:53Only word
28:01The only way this works is if it's an inside job
28:04Isn't that what we're investigating here, Alex?
28:07Do I believe that the government would set out to kill over 3,000 of its own citizens
28:11And bring down some of its most iconic landmarks?
28:13No, I don't
28:14You're telling me that you do?
28:16I don't necessarily believe the government did it
28:20But I will tell you who I think mine of
28:24How many people here know what a false flag operation is?
28:29You have any idea?
28:31Okay, what it is basically it's a lie
28:33It's a deception that the government does
28:35In which to get the public to believe something
28:38So that they can carry out an agenda
28:42False flag
28:43A covert operation designed to appear
28:46It was carried out by another nation or group
28:49The biggest one I know of is called Operation Northwoods
28:53And in my opinion, it was clear treason
28:56And what it was, it was submitted by the head of the Joint Chiefs
28:59That the CIA and military would attack certain U.S. cities
29:04And they would make it look like Cuba did it
29:07Thus to justify and get the public behind an invasion of Cuba
29:11Now this never happened because Kennedy wouldn't do it
29:15But it was still placed on the table in 1961
29:19Now, if you understand that it was on the table in 61
29:23Could it not have been on the table in 2001?
29:53False flag operation?
29:57On America by Americans
29:59Coupled with a stand down
30:01In other words, our military was told not to respond
30:05What proof is that this was a false flag?
30:08Prior to 9-11
30:10Back in May of that year
30:12Was that they changed the rules about hijacking protocols
30:16Right
30:16They basically no longer left that in the hands of the military
30:21They had to have a civilian leader
30:22Such as Rumsfeld or Cheney or the president
30:28Authorize the shoot down of an aircraft in American airspace
30:34So they had already set it up ahead of time
30:36There were 67 other hijackings or intercepts by the U.S. Air Force
30:42For the years prior to this
30:44And how could we have four airliners on the very same day
30:48Flying into buildings in our country
30:50And not have the military stop them
30:55The first stage of what the 9-11 attacks did
30:59Was they created a justification for passing the Patriot Act
31:03And what did that do?
31:04That took away at least half of the original Bill of Rights
31:08No question that it was a false flag attack
31:11In other words, that we created this in our own country
31:13In order to justify going to war
31:16For the bankers to finance the war, etc
31:18The missing black box recorders from the 9-11 jets
31:22Could show whether government forces were involved in the attack
31:25They could resolve the false flag issue
31:28And suddenly, they're back in play
31:32Jesse responds to another call from Mike Ballone
31:35Ballone had said he saw FBI men recover a black box from the ashes
31:40Now he's promising more
31:42People who've heard the black box recordings
31:45They're willing to talk to the governor
31:49Still ahead, Jesse Ventura gets closer to the black box cover-up
31:53They monitored the phone calls that were coming in from the actual flight
31:59They know things that are different from the official story
32:03Yes
32:04And then, he goes mano a mano with the FBI
32:08Did you do things that have never seen the light of day when you were on the SEAL teams?
32:13Of course he did
32:24Jesse Ventura meets up again with Mike Ballone
32:27The Ground Zero rescue worker has promised
32:30To lead the governor to people who've heard the missing 9-11 flight recordings
32:35But the plans hit a snag
32:40Hey Mike
32:40Hey, how are you?
32:42How's it going, okay?
32:43I'm hanging in there
32:44So what's happening?
32:46I hear we got problems
32:48Some of my friends from Boston just seem to have a little issue with what we're talking about
32:56They don't want to participate anymore?
32:59They don't want to talk?
33:00Well, they're scared
33:00They're scared?
33:01Scared
33:02Inside the diner, Jesse and his advisor, Michael Braverman, take the situation one step at a time
33:10Mike, these friends of yours, they all worked for the airlines, right?
33:13They were supervisors for Flight 11
33:16Which is the flight that hit where?
33:18That was the first plane that hit the tower
33:21And they monitored the phone calls that were coming in from the actual flight
33:27They know things that are different from the official story?
33:31Yes
33:31None of them are with American Airlines anymore
33:34One of them is running for a life because her house is bugged
33:39They bugged her vehicle, her cell phone
33:43She finds bugs wherever she goes
33:45She finds people following her up until this day
33:48This is happening because they're trying to frighten this person
33:52Into not talking
33:54Into not talking about what they know
33:56Absolutely
33:56Just like the FBI came to me and said, listen, I don't want you talking about any of this
34:01Black boxes, nothing
34:03Don't talk about it anymore
34:05Or you'll have a problem
34:06You're telling me that they will not talk to us in silhouette
34:09They will not talk to us protected
34:10No
34:11If we scramble their voice
34:12And scramble their face
34:13They're all on the run
34:20We came all this way
34:22You can't make them, Mike
34:23Why not?
34:24Why not?
34:27You can't make them
34:28Because you'll find them dead
34:30You know what?
34:31Just, can you cut that for a minute?
34:32Just cut it off
34:35Ballone refuses to allow Jesse Ventura to repeat what he tells him about the black boxes
34:43But the governor wants it all on the record
34:47Hi, this is Governor Jesse Ventura
34:49Sorry to bother you
34:50But I understand that you canceled talking to us
34:53And my only message to you is this
34:55Remember, the truth will set you free
34:57And you really want to live your whole life
35:00With the knowledge you have and not pass it on
35:04We're here for you to talk to you
35:06And we're going to keep moving forward
35:07We're going to keep seeking the truth
35:09Because we're not going to let this thing go away
35:12It's not going to disappear
35:14Trust me, the truth will set you free
35:16Thank you
35:18Back in New York City
35:20The governor and Braverman hook up with Alex Piper
35:23Alex's doubts about Ballone
35:25Are not what Jesse Ventura wants to hear after a five-hour drive
35:29Don't you think it's a little shady
35:31That Ballone says he has these people
35:33And then when we actually go and fly all the way to Syracuse
35:36He's going to go meet with them
35:37All of a sudden they are in Virginia
35:39Or they don't want to talk to us
35:40I do
35:40We've gotten his face about that
35:42Ballone told us unequivocally
35:44They're in fear of their lives
35:46Why are people hiding?
35:47And who would be threatening them?
35:49Mike Ballone says he's been threatened
35:51A guy came up and badged him
35:53And the whole thing
35:54And told him to stop talking about the black boxes
35:57Is Mike telling the truth?
35:59So what do we do now?
36:00I think we go to the Department of Justice
36:02I think we go to the FBI
36:03And I think I walk in and ask them questions
36:06God, you're wasting your time
36:07The government says there is no black boxes
36:09Well, I believe Ballone
36:10And I want to go to the FBI
36:11I want to go wherever we got to go
36:13To find out about the black boxes
36:18Take me there
36:22Coming up
36:23Jesse Ventura confronts the FBI
36:25With the 9-11 evidence
36:27Does the United States government
36:29Do some things in the dead of night
36:30That you did on SEAL teams
36:32That we would not want to have discussed?
36:34Of course we did
36:36And then
36:37An astonishing revelation
36:39From the black box flight recorders
36:41Does it confirm a government cover-up?
36:43Mike Ballone told us a real mind-blower
36:55I just want to go on record
36:57That this is a really bad idea
36:59Jesse Ventura was turned away
37:01From Ground Zero
37:02Denied entrance at Hangar 17
37:04Where crucial evidence
37:06Is under lock and key
37:07Yet he and his team
37:09Have uncovered real clues
37:11To a 9-11 conspiracy
37:12And he refuses to be stonewalled
37:15By the FBI
37:16We've already asked them
37:17To sit down with you
37:18They've said no
37:19What do you think
37:20All of a sudden
37:20You're just going to walk into the lobby
37:21And they're going to say
37:22Yeah, come on up
37:23Maybe face to face
37:24I told you before
37:26It's easy to say no over the phone
37:27It's easy to say no on an email
37:30It's not that easy to say no
37:32When someone walks in face to face
37:34I'm going inside
37:35It's a bad idea
37:36You can't go in while I'm going in
37:43The combination of determination and reputation
37:47Gets results
37:48Jack Cloonan is no public relations man
37:52He's an FBI agent
37:54A counterterrorism specialist
37:56With the New York Bureau
37:57And he played a key role
37:59In the 9-11 investigation
38:03Why was everything shipped away and destroyed
38:06Before it could be looked at
38:08They built a ship out of it
38:10I remember Rudy Giuliani bragging
38:1324 hours after the event
38:15That they had already gotten
38:1641 truckloads out of there
38:18The FBI did a meticulous investigation
38:23Of that crime scene
38:25Given its enormity
38:27Jesse cuts to the chase
38:28He reveals Mike Ballone's claim
38:30That he saw a black box being recovered
38:32By Cloonan's FBI colleagues
38:35He visibly saw one of them
38:37His partner said they've got two more
38:40To give three out of the four black boxes
38:42And we've also talked to an airline
38:45Investigative specialist
38:47Who says never in the annals of history
38:50Have they ever found
38:52Where they couldn't at least find the black boxes
38:55You guys, everybody at this site
38:57Went through that debris
38:58With such a fine tooth comb
39:00They were finding bone fragments
39:02The size of nail clippings
39:04And DNA matching it
39:05Yet we're told the black boxes
39:08For the first time in history
39:10Destroyed, gone
39:11Never found them
39:13I'm expected to believe that
39:16You believe that
39:17Do you think that the FBI
39:19Could possibly
39:21Look in the faces
39:24Of victims
39:25Families
39:26And say
39:27We're not going to share this information with you
39:29Then where are they
39:30I don't know where they are
39:32First time in history
39:33So what?
39:34So first time
39:34There's a first time
39:35There were so many firsts at 9-11
39:37There's a first time
39:38There's a first time for everything
39:38First time a steel structured building fell from fire alone
39:42First time
39:43First, first, first, first
39:45There's so many firsts here
39:47That's your point of view
39:48I'm telling you
39:49I'm telling you
39:50We'd find them oxes
39:51I'm asking you
39:52To not close your mind to this
39:55And to listen to what I'm saying
39:58There is no reason
40:00For the FBI
40:01To lie to you
40:03Or anybody else in this country
40:05About what took place
40:06On the morning of 9-11
40:07Many times the left hand
40:09Doesn't know what the right hand's doing
40:11Absolutely
40:12And that goes on
40:13All the time
40:14All the time
40:15Listen
40:15Does the United States government
40:17On occasion shade things
40:19To protect sources and methods
40:20Of course they do
40:22Do they do some things
40:23In the dead of night
40:24That you did on SEAL teams
40:26That we would not want to have discussed
40:28Of course we did
40:30And did you do things
40:32That have never seen the light of day
40:34When you were on the SEAL teams
40:36Of course you did
40:37That's what I'm here to tell you
40:39Okay
40:39And you've told me
40:45Another question is answered
40:47When Mike Ballone
40:48Has a change of heart
40:49He allows the governor
40:50To go on the record
40:52With the shocking revelations
40:53About the 9-11
40:54Black box flight recorders
41:01Mike Ballone
41:02Told us a real mind blower
41:04He said the airline people
41:06Said the hijackers
41:07Were in the cockpit
41:08Of American Airlines
41:09While it was still on the runway
41:12Before it even took off
41:15Ballone says
41:16That somebody on the ground
41:18Knew the hijacker
41:19Was in the cockpit
41:20That somebody else
41:21On the ground
41:22Let that plane take off
41:23Whatever the reasons
41:25They let the plane take off
41:26I think we now know
41:28Why they don't want
41:29To discover the black boxes
41:31The black boxes
41:33Would reveal
41:34If the hijackers
41:35Were speaking English
41:36And if the government
41:38Knew they were at the controls
41:39Before the jetliners
41:41Took off
41:41We'd know
41:42They'd have had even more time
41:44To scramble fighter jets
41:45To intercept them
41:47They didn't
41:48And who'd gain from that
42:00Every government official
42:02We talk to
42:03Refers us back
42:04To the 9-11 report
42:06Well I've read the 9-11 report
42:08And there's nothing in it
42:10That talks about the explosion below
42:12That William Rodriguez told us about
42:14There's nothing in the 9-11 report
42:16That talks about the thermite
42:18Discovered in the dust
42:19That Professor Jones told us about
42:22And it certainly doesn't explain
42:24Why our air defense
42:25Was in a stand down mode
42:27While all hell was breaking loose
42:29In our air space
42:30And finally
42:32Where are the eyewitness testimonies
42:35People like Mike Ballone
42:36Who swear they found the black boxes
42:39At Ground Zero
42:40And where are those black boxes now
42:42Are they being hidden
42:44Because they might tell us
42:46That the hijackers
42:47Were in the cockpit of American Airlines
42:49Before it even took off
42:51These are the facts as we found them
42:53But I'm more convinced than ever
42:55That the real story of 9-11
42:57Is lying in some government vault somewhere
43:00I'm Jesse Ventura
43:01And this is Conspiracy Theory
43:30And this is Conspiracy Theory
43:31And this is Conspiracy Theory
43:31And this is Conspiracy Theory
43:31And this is Conspiracy Theory
43:32And this is Conspiracy Theory
43:32Gracias.