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00:15what's up everybody welcome back to another edition of new york got game dexter henry here
00:20day two of training camp for the mix is over and my guy here to your right is with me
00:25jared schwartz does a great job covering the knicks for us here at the new york post despite being an
00:30arsenal fan jared how you doing man good dexter how are you we are a couple days into to the
00:37repeat
00:37attempt so we're starting to get going here yeah yeah we are so day two there's still some
00:43interesting things to talk about we saw a media day you and i were there we heard from josh hart
00:48we heard from carl anthony towns about their potential contract extensions and today deuce
00:54mcbride uh spoke about that what did you hear from him and what were your takeaways when you heard
00:59deuce mcbride talk to the media for the first time this year yeah obviously dexter on monday when we
01:04were all there kind of the theme of the day was carl anthony towns and josh hart and their uncertain
01:10situations and some of that uncertainty likely trickling into the season both of those guys
01:16were pretty open about wanting a new deal not wanting it to trickle into the season even though
01:21that's likely and sort of talking about the comfort comfortability um of not having that
01:27certainty about their future and what that could do to a locker room and their own psyche sort of
01:31miles mcbride was a little more um not as open about that you know he was more um towing the
01:38company
01:38line and saying that he wants to be a nick he likes being a nick um and he has faith
01:44in in his
01:45representation and his agents getting a deal done um when we asked him about it how he's handling the
01:51the uncertainty and and the uncomfortability he kind of just said you know you go into every camp
01:57needing to prove something and needing to you know prove yourself whether it's a big contract whether
02:01it's a bigger role whether it's your place in the team um so he's kind of looking at it that
02:07way
02:07the one area where he was really good was talking about playing through an injury last year and that
02:13ties into all of this because he feels like he sacrificed for the team he feels like he sacrificed
02:18his body and playing through pain and playing through injury and he should be rewarded with
02:22that with a new contract and if you remember last year he was awesome for most of the year
02:29um had the sports hernia had the sports hernia surgery missed you know pretty much the rest of
02:34the regular season came back for just the last couple of regular season games and then went into the
02:38playoffs and didn't have a great postseason struggle a little bit wasn't as efficient of a shooter
02:43um you could see he didn't move as well and you know he's talked about how limiting it is it
02:49you feel
02:50it in almost every movement whether you're reaching for the remote or reaching for a loose ball it's
02:54right in the middle of your body and it's it's painful and he said now that he's healthy now that
02:58he feels good again it's crazy to look back at how much he was injured during the playoffs you know
03:04that's what he said and that's notable because he's a guy who is trying to prove that he was more
03:09the regular season version of himself than the playoff version of himself and that he did put his
03:13body on the line he sacrificed his body and now we have the healthy version of him um but he
03:19also
03:20you know probably wants to be paid like the healthy version of himself yeah i'm sure he does
03:24and that's the interesting thing for the knicks here and for deuce mcbride too because if he's healthy
03:29and we all know this from covering sports motivation can be huge for players right especially
03:34in a contract year but as i'm sure deuce knows as well too and his agent knows he is probably
03:41right
03:41now the knicks most tradable asset so do you look at this jared in the same way we might look
03:47at josh
03:48hart and carlty towns where you wonder because of all of that he's got the motivation but still is one
03:53of the knicks most tradable assets especially if they want to upgrade another area that the whole
03:58contract situation with him it could affect him that is possible that it could affect him right
04:03now like you said he is definitely the best asset that they have that is tradable um he's an expiring
04:11contract so his deal is done after this year and that's the only that's a somewhat of a difference
04:15between cat and josh hart because cat if he opts in can be back next year josh hart is back
04:19next year
04:20um deuce is an expiring contract and with the edict under james don't to stay under the second apron
04:27they really probably can't give him a big contract this summer and someone probably will
04:31someone probably will see him as a starter type player who is worth 14 15 million a year perhaps
04:37maybe more maybe a little less but starter money not seventh man or sixth man money and the knicks
04:44this front office if if you've noticed doesn't like leaving uh letting guys go for nothing in the
04:50offseason mitch was pretty much the one exception because they needed him they needed him for a
04:55championship and i don't think he would have gotten much in a trade but a lot of other guys if
05:00you
05:00were if you know from this front office that in previous years they've traded them before they reach
05:05um you know before they just leave in free agency for nothing and this is a team that has decent
05:11depth
05:11at guard they've also jose alvarado they've brought back jose alvarado they brought back lanchi shamit
05:15they brought back um jordan clarkson all guys who spend time in and out of the rotation last year but
05:22certainly held their own um they're thinner at big and and they need centers you know they right now
05:29the only lock for the roster behind carl anthony towns is is andre drummond and he's 33 he's he's
05:36pretty much a short thing but it's a little risky to go into a season with only two bigs carl
05:42anthony
05:42towns certainly has got into foul trouble a lot you know in in his past so do the knicks want
05:48to you
05:49look at miles mcbride as someone who can bring in a better backup big and someone who could actually
05:53you know who can be a contributor and bring you know be the level that he is at at a
05:58different
05:58position maybe because he's the one guy that you know can bring back decent talent because he's young
06:05he's cheap and he's actually pretty good yeah and that's the thing and it really comes like you
06:10mentioned to the big situation with them will they want to upgrade the bigs i like looking at the
06:15actions of the team i think the fact that the knicks had tried to sign musa sisse to offer sheet
06:19earlier this offseason told me that they would probably like to upgrade their backup big situation
06:25or at least feel like they have some more depth so i wonder if deuce is somebody that could be
06:29on the
06:30move not saying it would happen now but i wonder if it's something that could happen down the road as
06:34we get closer to the trade deadline now the knicks did they love yeah go ahead and they and they
06:39love deuce you know it's not like they're looking to trade him he's someone that they love
06:43mike brown loves him his teammates love him he's ultra dependable off the bench he's a great
06:49shooter he's a great defender um he's tough he fits everything that this team is it's just
06:54the reality of the second apron era is that you have to make sacrifices on the roster at times you
07:01have to pick yeah and you have to prioritize which stars and which starters um come first and right now
07:07there's multiple guys in terms of contract extensions that would come first yep i would think that
07:13josh hart and not in this order necessarily josh hart and carlty towns would be ahead of deuce in
07:18that and because of deuce's contract how trade friendly it is and his production how it's been and
07:22i should give deuce credit he is one of the best knicks development stories probably in the history
07:27of their franchise when you look at his shooting ability and how it's evolved over the last couple
07:31of years and the deal they've had him on so you have to like that there too i did want
07:35to talk to you
07:36about a couple of moves jared um because there were some fans that were asking in the comments
07:40uh for a previous show was like what happened to john contrar didn't see him on media day well
07:44the knicks they waived john contrar so he's no longer with the team had some uh personal things
07:49going on that he wasn't able to be with the team they said they signed jayden atkins to their final
07:53two-way contract um and then they also signed tony bradley uh to uh another a deal um exhibit 10
08:01deal
08:02excuse me that they signed tony bradley to so what do you make of those moves we know there's some
08:07battles at the end of the roster who's going to get the last couple of spots could it be a
08:11big
08:12could it be a wing or a guard um there's a lot going on what do you make of these
08:15two moves that
08:16we saw for knicks are announced on the second day of training camp yeah mike brown didn't expand too
08:21much today on on the contrar situation they kind of just said that's what they decided to do
08:25and they wish him and they wish him the best um jayden akins is is notable because that was the
08:33last
08:33two-way deal uh the last two-way slot that they had you know they already have um tyler nickel
08:38on
08:38a two-way deal um so that was that was the last two-way deal that they had ready so
08:43he's you know
08:43he'll fill that and then kevin mcculler was brought back on the on you know the other two-way slot
08:48from
08:48from last year so they have their three two-way guys now in tyler nickel kevin mcculler and jayden
08:54akins um and they mike brown said he's a high upside guy that they liked early in the summer so
09:00that's
09:00you know that's always good he's a michigan state guy i remember um he was there at practice today
09:05so you know we'll see what he brings tony b and when when we asked him about that mike brown
09:10actually
09:11unprompted kind of bring brought up uh tony bradley who's you know in a training camp deal
09:15it's not guaranteed he'll be in that group of veterans that are competing for that last 14th
09:20roster spot and he talked a lot about bradley um as obviously a big and he said you know it's
09:26obviously a position that we're looking at it's a position that we need and that goes back to the
09:32miles mcbride situation where maybe they want to upgrade it at backup big and he talked a lot about
09:38that when a guy hurts you you kind of remember then you want to bring him in and and bradley
09:43was part of
09:44that pacers team uh two years ago that eliminated the knicks in the eastern conference finals and that
09:49was before mike brown's time but i guess enough people in that room remember bradley as part of that
09:53team um he's a veteran he's big he's certainly experienced um mike brown had some pretty good
10:00things to say about him and and now that that competition has shifted a little bit you know
10:06without conchar now it's um wiseman um drew eubanks and and tony bradley as the big sort of in the
10:15veteran and then you have bruce brown and akbaji as as like sort of like the wings in that in
10:19that
10:20competition and we'll see you know you know conventional thinking thinks they'll take a big
10:24because they need a big they need a center they'll take a center um but you know bruce brown is
10:28probably
10:28the best player of that group but it's a position that they that they kind of have decent depth at
10:34you know a guard who can kind of play bigger than he is rebounds well plays good defense and
10:39shoots well enough from three um conventional thinking would make you think they take a big but
10:44it probably also depends a little bit on how andre drummond looks in camp they probably want to see
10:49how he looks if he can be a 25 minute a night backup for carl anthony towns if they feel
10:55comfortable
10:55with that and want to take a bruce brown and sort of kick the third string center situation down the
11:00line a little bit and go into the season with just uh carl anthony towns and drummond and if a
11:06need
11:07arises then bring someone in and sort of play it by ear of those three centers i'm curious from you
11:12you talked about wiseman you talked about drew eubanks and tony bradley now if the knicks were
11:18to go with a third center do you think any of them who do you think is the most likely
11:22to maybe
11:22landed is it wiseman because of his upside or could it be someone like tony bradley because of the
11:26experience that he's had in the knicks no firsthand how he hurt them in the playoffs a couple years ago
11:30yeah that's the that's the two sides of the pendulum right um wiseman is definitely the most
11:34like intriguing because he was a very very high draft pick he was someone who had a lot of potential
11:41and who's someone whose career has really been derailed by injuries we haven't really seen him
11:45just get a full leash and play very much um mike brown knows him from his warriors days when he
11:50was an assistant with the warriors um he said they didn't keep up that much in in the years past
11:55but
11:55he's obviously the most intriguing and maybe the highest upside if he's finally healthy and he's
12:02finally ready to contribute and finally ready to kind of present his best self and like you said
12:07eubanks and bradley are way more like known quantities steady veteran you kind of know what
12:13you're getting out of them they've been the same player for for their whole career um they're not
12:17going to blow you away you're you're you're you really kind of know what you're going to get so
12:21i think a big part of that is how healthy wiseman looks you know let's see let's talk at the
12:25end of
12:26training camp is he practicing every day um is he limited at all is he does he have any set
12:31you know
12:32any recurring in you know any old injuries coming back um so that that obviously they want to see how
12:38healthy and good honestly wiseman looks um but yeah that's the two sides of the pendulum right it's
12:45it's the young sort of mystery of wiseman or like the less exciting but maybe more steady veteran option
12:52yeah that's gonna be intriguing to see i'm intrigued to see how wiseman looks when we get to the preseason
12:57game starting on monday one other player that talked to the media on day two was landry shamit
13:02who returned to the knicks it was different for him the last couple of years he signed
13:07non-guaranteed deals and i meant to say earlier i had misspoke about tony bradley it was exhibit nine
13:12deal non-guaranteed deal now in exhibit 10 but shamit gets had non-guaranteed deals the last couple
13:18of years now has got himself a longer term contracts probably you could argue just on paper one of the
13:24best value signings of the offseason yeah and leon rose and company bringing him back what did you
13:29hear from shamit today about returning to new york he seemed like a place he wanted to be back
13:34here in the orange and blue what did he have to say today to the media yeah he was really
13:39good about
13:40that and like you said the last two years he was here on non-guaranteed deals at this point the
13:45last
13:45two years he did not know if he was going to be on the roster and honestly at this point
13:49last year
13:51he was not expected to be on the roster you know malcolm brogdon most people thought was that was good
13:56was ahead of him for that last roster spot and it really wasn't until he retired right before the
14:00season started that shamit took his spot and got that last roster spot this time around it's crazy
14:08nicks he's like a cult hero with nicks fans you know for how well he shot in the playoffs
14:13especially that cleveland series and you know the way he stepped in when he was out of the rotation
14:19for a little bit and stepped back in and he was really good in talking about just how much that
14:25means to him and how much it helps now knowing that his spot is solidified for also that obviously he's
14:32paid and he has you know much more money coming to him this year and he said you know i'm
14:36proud of
14:37myself um it's it's a great feeling it's great a feeling to be appreciated to know that you're valued
14:43um to know that you're wanted back to know that you're you know important piece of what this team
14:47is building he obviously loves new york his fiancee loves new york um they they can stay here now and
14:53he he was really appreciative that his career was sort of in in the crossroads the last couple years
14:59now he's a key bench piece that fans love that mike brown loves that his teammates love um and that
15:06is
15:06really important to this team you know we saw last year the way mike brown works you could go a
15:14couple
15:14weeks out of the rotation then all of a sudden you're playing 35 minutes you know as i mentioned
15:19before like alvarado shamit and clarkson all had points in the year where they were firmly in the
15:25rotation and firmly out of the rotation you're not getting any minutes and shamit talked about that
15:30group because all three of those guys came back all three of those guys were free agents and had the
15:34opportunity to go somewhere else where maybe they had more guaranteed playing time and all three
15:40wanted to be back and shamit said that group is great and he's never been around a group like that
15:46of backup guards where there's no ego and no ulterior motives where every guy is pulling for the other
15:53whether you know if alvarado takes five of my minutes so be it if if clarkson is now playing and
16:00i need to
16:00take a step back great i'm all for it and all of a sudden one of those guys comes out
16:06of the rotation
16:07and i'm stepping up i'm ready for it and he really talked about that he's never in his career
16:11um been around a group that's that selfless and that egoless and that really you know says a lot
16:17about this team and why all three wanted to come back yeah it's very interesting with shamit because
16:22i'm listening to what you're talking about his comments jared and you hear a lot of gratitude
16:26uh for him and in his journey where he's been in the last couple of years and you know you're
16:30always
16:31happy for a guy like that getting a long-term deal but then i think the other part of it
16:34is the last
16:34part of what you said the togetherness you're hearing from that bench unit from those guys and
16:38maybe that's one of the things that really carries over for this next team is they try to defend their
16:43title and we'll see because they're going to have some adversity and we will see how that all plays
16:47out but having that continuity and togetherness on the bench that can help so some interesting
16:52stuff only two days in to the start of the title defense for the new york hit nicks our own
16:58jared schwartz at training camp will be at training camp with the nicks through the duration and
17:03through the preseason jared appreciate you joining me on new york got game i'm sure we'll have a lot
17:07more to talk about soon and a lot more things to keep our eye on in training camp of course
17:13anytime
17:13we're just getting started we are just getting started we'll catch you next time everybody
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