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The Miami Hurricanes face a tricky 12:00 PM matchup against a 7-2 Duke football squad, and Joe Rose explains why overlooking Manny Diaz and the Blue Devils would be a massive mistake. Plus, Joe dives into the ridiculous social media discourse surrounding Ohio State star wide receiver Jeremiah Smith and why shutting down his college football season early would be the worst move for his legacy and NFL Draft stock.
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00:00And if you're looking and going, eh, it's Duke football,
00:03then you're not watching to see what's going on right now.
00:07I'm just telling you, Manny Diaz, they're 7-2.
00:13They're playing really well.
00:15I don't care who they're playing.
00:17They go on the top running backs, numbers-wise, in college football,
00:22almost 1,200 yards and 17 touchdowns.
00:26They got a defense that gives up 13 points a game again.
00:29I don't care.
00:30I know they're playing ACC schedule mostly.
00:33Duke's not going outside the ACC very much.
00:37But they're putting up good numbers.
00:40They're going to be well-coached.
00:43And so I don't care what the point spread says,
00:46which is right around two touchdowns.
00:48I don't care.
00:49I'm just telling you, if you saw Florida State, North Carolina,
00:53I don't know what else you need to see.
00:55This is going to end up being a dogfight.
00:59And to see how this Miami Hurricane team fights back
01:02and if they can keep it rolling from the way they looked in the second half.
01:07And I'm not saying Duke players or Notre Dame players.
01:10I'm not saying that.
01:11But they got a good team.
01:13And we'll see what happens.
01:16Just if you're going to go and you're not going because you said,
01:20well, we're going to go, but, you know,
01:22we're going to do something else this weekend, 12 o'clock start, it's Duke.
01:25Duke, then you're making a mistake.
01:27Then you're making a mistake.
01:29Because if you got those tickets or you're going to go,
01:31this 12 o'clock one, we'll have you home for dinner anyway.
01:35And you can say, oh, we'll get you home way before dinner
01:38and get you ready to go.
01:40It's going to be a hell of a game, man.
01:41Weather should be good, I would think, right?
01:43It should be a –
01:44I didn't check the weather.
01:45Well, but just from the game.
01:46Not that they're going to –
01:47You hit the weather.
01:49I'm trying to get people to the game.
01:50All right.
01:51But we'll be out there doing a free game show at 8 a.m.
01:54We've got to throw weather out for people with football.
01:55I promise you.
01:56Well, we're only going if it's a perfect day.
01:58It'll be a nice day.
01:59All right.
01:59I have a feeling.
02:00All right.
02:01I hope you're right and get something going there.
02:04We've got all kinds of stuff going on here.
02:06Carson Beck starts – Carson Beck's now the guy, man.
02:09We were talking about when he was going to get a chance.
02:12And one guy gets traded, one guy gets injured,
02:14and, hey, Carson, it's your show in Arizona, man.
02:18See how he does for the Cardinals?
02:20Is he'll take over, and he'll have a half of a season to find out
02:25if he's the future or if the Arizona Cardinals need to go out
02:31and draft another quarterback.
02:34God, you know what?
02:36I don't want anybody to do this.
02:37Please, please don't do this.
02:39But I want to warn everybody.
02:41Take a look at all the teams.
02:44And you can put us in there, too.
02:45You won't hurt my feeling.
02:47Of all the teams that could need a quarterback,
02:50just look.
02:51With the injuries, poor play, and if you saw that play last night,
02:57I've got to tell you, I'm not so sure, even as good as special teams
03:00and as good as they are on defense, I'm not sure the Vikings are going to make
03:05the playoffs.
03:07They're only 6-2.
03:08They've lost their last two games with absolutely no offense in either game.
03:13In either game, last night, Carson Wentz was franchise quarterback awful in this game.
03:238-25, 81 yards, two picks.
03:25They were terrible.
03:26Well, nine first downs in the game, 178 total yards.
03:30They turned it over three times.
03:320 for 8 on third down.
03:34Right there.
03:34Matter of fact, I probably should have just gone to that.
03:370 for 8 on third down.
03:39So the punter got a great workout last night is what I'm telling you.
03:43Here's a big one.
03:44Time of possession.
03:45I'm going to hit you with a little time of possession,
03:47which I very seldom do early in a 6 o'clock show.
03:5142 1⁄2 minutes to 17 1⁄2 minutes.
03:56You add all that up, you put that on a math football chart,
04:00and it means ass-kicking.
04:02And they actually only lost 23-6 to the Bills.
04:07And they got after them.
04:08I mean, they got after Josh Allen and those guys.
04:12But, man, I'll tell you what, you're going out on the field.
04:17I've been on the other side when you have an offense
04:19and you don't have a defense.
04:21And I've been both sides of this thing,
04:23and I've seen both sides when the killer Bs were at their peak
04:27and we're going, hey, can you guys get one more start?
04:30We're struggling a little bit here before Marino.
04:34And then, of course, Marino comes.
04:36Killer Bs are getting older, and those guys are all banged up
04:40and had to score a lot of points.
04:42But, boy, that's hard.
04:44That's hard on one side of the football when you're going out
04:46and you're going, my God, we've got to be almost perfect
04:50to have any chance to win
04:52because you can't play much better than Coach Flores
04:56and his defense right now.
04:59Sacks and aggressive play.
05:02And did it to the Lions last week, too,
05:05and lost because they can't score points.
05:07Can't get touchdowns.
05:09Kicking field goals.
05:10We know a thing or two about that from time to time down here
05:13with this brand-new young team.
05:15So I don't know, man.
05:16I'm curious to see because first question after that game is,
05:20all right, Carson Wentz is what we thought Carson Wentz was.
05:23What are you going to do, a quarterback?
05:25Are you going to go out and get one here?
05:28You're still in great shape for everybody
05:31that just automatically put that whole division in the playoffs.
05:34I might hold off on that, NFC North.
05:37Vikings, Bears, and Lions all 6-2, and Green Bay 6-3.
05:40I know right now they're the teams in all of them, all of them.
05:45Somebody's going to win the division,
05:46and the other three would be in the wild card positions.
05:51But I don't know that any franchises botch the QB thing
05:54more than Minnesota right now.
05:57They've been so bad, and their receiver looks like he's about to kill someone.
06:01Well, that's the problem.
06:03But they botched it, man.
06:04Remember he was up at the Super Bowl doing those interviews?
06:07You know how bummed out he was that his quarterback was playing in the Super Bowl?
06:12They went with J.J. McCarthy?
06:14So last night before the game, they put out this thing
06:17and made it clear to everybody that would listen for ESPN
06:21that, hey, we're going to try to get him the ball tonight,
06:24that we're going to target.
06:25I think they threw him like 11 passes,
06:27but they only had like three or four catches in the game.
06:31One of them was a backwards pass that he dropped.
06:34It's just not very good right now.
06:38And they're 6-2.
06:39You're going, hey, this is amazing.
06:41We have no offense, but we're 6-2.
06:44And how long?
06:45So anyway, they've lost two straight games now.
06:48And, man, it's going to be an interesting one.
06:51Going to be an interesting one.
06:52So anyway, we've got Charles Davis, lead analyst for CBS College Football,
06:58who's had some great games.
07:00You're going to join us this morning.
07:01We'll talk a little bit about the CFP rankings release, part two,
07:05coming out tonight.
07:06And we'll talk a little bit about the Big Ten as well as everything else.
07:10So there's something else popped up here.
07:11It has to do with one of our guys.
07:13And we talk, and I should say I talk a lot about Jeremiah Smith.
07:19For all the idiots in his life that are going around saying he should sit out
07:24now that they're out of the playoffs, and I get, and I still believe,
07:32if it's not for the impact of needing quarterbacks,
07:35he'd clearly be the first overall pick in this draft
07:39without knowing what everybody can do in the country.
07:42I can't imagine anybody, and usually if somebody's really, really good
07:47and looks the part of an NFL superstar, we know about him by now.
07:52Everybody knows how this works.
07:53Oh, he's NFL.
07:54He's going to be one of the best players.
07:56And I know there's a little receiver out at Oregon State that's tearing it up,
08:00and he's a young guy, and it's a nice little story out there,
08:03and he's running wide open.
08:04And he and Malachi and Jeremiah Smith have kind of been the three guys
08:08as far as numbers and everybody talks about a lot.
08:14But so this thing after Jeremiah Smith, who was very frustrated,
08:18had another good game, had another 100-yard game.
08:21So now we've got people, and he's not saying it.
08:24I want to make this clear.
08:25He's not saying it, but people, ah, he should bag the last three games
08:30now that they're not playing for anything.
08:32He's giving them everything.
08:35First of all, he's the highest-paid wide receiver in college football,
08:41roughly $5 million a year.
08:43I mean, let's just put it out there.
08:48He's got a Michigan game coming up.
08:50He didn't play in that Michigan game, number one,
08:53and they were to lose that game.
08:56Everything good he's done at that school would be gone.
08:58Everything that he's done is one of the greatest players in the history,
09:04college football players at Ohio State, and they've had a bunch.
09:07They've had, you know, guys win Heisman Trophy back-to-back,
09:10and they've had some great players.
09:13No question, Ohio State's been loaded with fantastic players.
09:18This kid ain't taking a backseat to what he's done in his three years
09:22or almost three full years.
09:24But he's got three games left.
09:26He needs to play those games and then say goodbye.
09:29And, yes, I do agree that if there's a bowl game in Ohio State,
09:34you know, got some secondary bowl game outside the playoffs,
09:38he wouldn't play.
09:39And I understand that.
09:40And I go, hey, man, thank you.
09:42You played the last three games.
09:43What is it?
09:44I want to say Wisconsin, Northwestern.
09:47I looked it up.
09:49Wisconsin, Northwestern maybe.
09:51And the third one, of course, is Michigan.
09:54But he's got to finish the season.
09:56And all of a sudden, everybody's like, well, he can't win the Heisman now
09:59at this court.
09:59Well, like, he got it.
10:01He keeps playing.
10:02Who just threw him out?
10:03Because Notre Dame wins.
10:05CJ looked great in the last game.
10:07I mean.
10:08Yeah, I don't know who's going to win the Heisman.
10:10Well, they've already started.
10:11I know Carr's a favorite.
10:12But I don't know, man.
10:14Menza could jump back into that mix.
10:17All I know is Jeremiah Smith.
10:19You got to finish it.
10:20Joe, I think he would kill his draft stock if he sat out the rest of the season.
10:23Remember we talked about when guys would sit out a ball game?
10:26You know, they'd opt out of the ball game.
10:28And go, man, what kind of team would want a guy like that?
10:30You remember who one of the first guys to do that was?
10:32Yeah, it was the Michigan.
10:33No, it was McCaffrey.
10:34Oh, McCaffrey.
10:35McCaffrey at Stanford.
10:36And he took a lot of heat.
10:38Wasn't there a guy in Michigan that thought about doing it or something
10:42and then tore up his knee?
10:43But anyway, like.
10:44Yeah, there was.
10:44They're tied in.
10:45Could you imagine if the guy did that?
10:48To me, that would kill his draft stock because if you're a team like the Dolphins
10:53and you're going through a rebuild here, you wouldn't want a guy like that.
10:57You wouldn't want a guy who quits when it gets tough.
11:00You can't be a fraud man.
11:02It's weird saying this because I know this is not him.
11:05It's not coming from him.
11:06So that's.
11:07He is for everybody around him, including his head coach who we had on.
11:12He told me, Joe, he's ultra competitive, bro.
11:15And anybody in his life telling him to shut it down.
11:18Yeah, that'd be very losery to not play the rest of the season.
11:21And financially, even, I mean, you're, you're, you're making, you're making, and he should
11:28be, he should be the highest paid.
11:29Somebody told me he's actually the highest paid non-quarterback in college football.
11:34And he should be.
11:35I mean, honestly, he, he should be for what he's done.
11:40And, uh, he stayed, you know, there are some other offers out there, I'm sure.
11:44And I don't know if Miami is one of them, but, uh, yeah, he, he, he's big time, but I
11:49hope very disappointed to see this stuff start coming out and picking up of, are you going
11:55to finish the season and in Northwestern, Nebraska, Michigan are the three games.
11:59And, and I was like, yeah, he's going to play.
12:02And the guy loves playing number one as he sat out the Michigan game.
12:06Oh my God.
12:08But, but I, I mean, financially you're, you're now, now all bets are off after, you know,
12:14you're, you're, you're playing.
12:15And I don't know how those contracts are, but I wouldn't blame them.
12:19I wouldn't go play in a secondary bowl.
12:21And, uh, you know, they get ready to play, you know, Oklahoma state in some bowl game.
12:26I'm not like, nah, we're going to pass.
12:28I'm going to pass.
12:29You guys go get them and play those young guys and get ready for, for next year.
12:32I understand that.
12:33I do.
12:34And, and by the way, some people don't, some people, oh, you got to finish with your,
12:38and I'm, I'm no, no, no, no, you don't.
12:41I'm not going to have him playing that game and somebody take a wild shot at him.
12:45And he's a big, strong dude.
12:47But anyway, I, um, I saw that and some of the podcasters are starting to talk.
12:52I wouldn't play anymore.
12:53Like Duke, first of all, before you say that you ought to think about it and maybe that's
12:58your makeup, but that's not his makeup.
13:00That's not what he's about.
13:02I don't think his mother and father, I don't think he just quality kid.
13:05Just, I can't see it.
13:07But anyway, I, um, wanted to, uh, just throw that out here this morning.
13:11We got plenty of stuff to go with.
13:13It's, uh.
13:13It's, uh.