00:00To see the journey that The Bachelor went on, I mean, once you left the scene, the relevancy really started
00:07to dip.
00:08I always watch the ratings, so I know what the ratings have done.
00:12When you left the franchise and you saw that it was losing relevancy and the ratings weren't good, I mean,
00:17how did you process that?
00:18Like, how did, I mean, it's just, was it kind of sad?
00:22Look, I would just say this.
00:24It was two, there was this dichotomy.
00:26After a breakup and you go on Instagram and you see your ex, you don't mind if they put on
00:33an extra 20.
00:34I mean, yeah.
00:36You know?
00:36I get what you're saying.
00:39What you don't want to see is the revenge bod.
00:41That's true.
00:42So luckily I didn't see the revenge bod.
00:45But there was this other flip side of, I spent 20 years of my adult life in this and I
00:51still had a lot of friends from hair and makeup to camera operators.
00:55And I, this business is rough, especially now.
00:58I don't want to see people lose their jobs.
01:00I don't wish that on anybody because this business is really brutal.
01:04And so to that end, it was exciting on The Vow.
01:06We got to hire some of these people, but some of my friends are still there and they even reached
01:10out to me.
01:11They were some of the first people that called me and said, hey man, I heard about The Vow.
01:15I'm so excited for you.
01:16Welcome back.
01:17We love you.
01:18So from producers all the way down on the food chain at The Bachelor, they reached out to me.
01:24And so that makes me feel good.
01:25Not the executives.
01:27Right.
01:27Right.
01:27We love you.
01:28We love you.
01:30We love you.
01:30We love you.
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